#3516 Next Gen NYC S2E010: The Windham Beneath My Wings

Watch What Crappens

In this episode of Next Gen NYC Season 2, Episode 10, the cast embarks on a ski trip filled with drama, gossip, and unexpected romantic confessions. The journey begins with chaotic traffic as the group is crammed into

Key takeaways

• Liam's romantic confession raises concerns about emotional authenticity and potential stalking behavior.

Main topics

• Ski trip dynamics
• Romantic confession and emotional authenticity

Notable quotes

Santa's a dick. Where's the beef?

Conclusion

The episode blends humor with genuine concern over emotional boundaries and

Transcript preview

Speaker 2 (0:22) and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me today on this beautiful ski trip of an episode, it's Mr. Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How are you? I'm Speaker 3 (0:36) good. How's it going with you, baby? Speaker 2 (0:38) Oh, it's just fabulous. It's fabulous over here. Today is Thursday, August 27th, and I'm calling out the date because tomorrow on August 28th, We will be announcing the cities and dates for our next tour. So everyone tune into the Orange County episode because the cities are dropping, the dates are dropping. We still have yet to find out when our tickets will be going on sale, but we're going to let you know the dates because this way you can pencil them into your calendar. They're coming up sooner than you might expect. And we're really, really excited for this one. So everything from what cities we're going to, to when and where the Golden Crappies are. Stay tuned. And of course, it'll be on our social media as well. Of course, it'll be everywhere. You know us. But keep an eye on it. You're out for that. Also, thanks to everyone who tuned in. to the first three episodes of What's Your Order? It's the new show we just put up on YouTube. We had Kiki Monique and Courtney Frayn and Eric Williams on three different episodes to talk about countdown things in the world of Bravo. Best one and done housewives, best housewives dinner parties, best housewives locations, things like that. And there's more to come. So new episodes, I'm going to drop the new episodes Tuesdays or Wednesdays. I don't know. So keep an ear in my eye on that. Well, Speaker 3 (2:05) congratulations on the new show, Ben. It's a good one. Thank you. We're loving it. Speaker 2 (2:10) Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, the response has been so warm, and I really appreciate it. I finally got to put this little studio behind me to good use beyond just board game content. Speaker 3 (2:21) Well, that's good use, too. It is. Use it. You built it. Now you will come. Speaker 2 (2:28) You Speaker 3 (2:28) built it, and now you can. If you build it, Speaker 2 (2:33) you will go to it. That's like a very low stakes thing. Oh, we're not promising any ghosts. We're just saying if you build it, you'll probably go there. Speaker 3 (2:40) Yeah, so go check out Ben's new show where he's coming. No, I'm just kidding. Populous. Yeah, it's a good show. Everybody's loving it. It looks great. Sounds great. Feels great. Feels great, guys. It's like a warm sweater. Today is Next Gen NYC, which you can get on video over at our Patreon, along with bonus episodes, newsletter, ad-free listening, all that good stuff. Go over to Patreon. And thanks for being here today. Next Gen NYC, Season 2, Episode 9. You win some, you lose some. Speaker 2 (3:18) Well, well, well, this was a fun ass episode. I really, really enjoyed this one. I first of all, I love that the first half they just put all the kids into tiny cars and just stuck them in traffic on the New York three way for hours on end. The way they were all like, like they had no they had no room in there. They were like little sardines, little adorable sardines in those cars. I was cracking up. Of course, they would do this to like the young and some Bravo. But I thought everything was so free. They do it to Speaker 3 (3:45) all ages on Speaker 2 (3:47) Bravo. They don't get sprinter vans at this age. Speaker 3 (3:51) Yeah. But Bravo has shoved people into cars for a long time. And it's always so fun to watch it. I know. A bunch of divas who think they deserve more being shoved next to Speaker 2 (4:05) each other into a car. Yes. So Charlie and Ava are... They're walking through the city and everyone's getting ready for the ski trip and they're excited. And there's a lot of like back and forth about it. Amira has decided that she wants to arrange a shady secret Santa experience that they have there. And she's like going to like arrange all the people who will be invited to that. But then she leaves off Georgia, which is inherently shady, but she can't remember. Amira's just Speaker 3 (4:35) doing every scene now like she's... doing Gossip Girl. Like even they're just like, okay, Amira, sit on your couch and I don't know, just do something. And she's like, well, we were thinking of doing a shady Santa. It was 6 p.m. when she thought to herself, why just have a regular Santa when you can have a shady Santa? Then she tilted her head Speaker 2 (4:57) back and laughed. I mean, isn't Santa inherently shady? He's literally sitting there being like, you're naughty. You're nice. You're nice. Naughty, naughty, nice. And now I'm going to invade your home. And I'm Speaker 3 (5:12) going to eat the cookies that you left out. I'm going to break into your house. I'm going to make out with your mother. And I'm going to eat all your Speaker 2 (5:17) carbs. And then I'm going to judge you afterwards. And then I will decide if I'm going to give you gifts. That's like pretty shady, actually. He's a shady bitch. Speaker 3 (5:27) Yeah. Then he gives you shit like, you know, less calories, more filling. It's like, how is this Christmas, Santa? Speaker 2 (5:39) He leaves a note like, I'm not going to pay a lot for that muffler. I'm like, what are you talking about, Santa? You're in a sleigh. You don't even have a muffler. He's just doing advertising. Taglines. He gives you little Speaker 3 (5:49) boy spanks and then advertises for pet boys on the way out. Speaker 2 (5:56) Santa's a dick. Where's the beef? Speaker 3 (6:01) Liam is walking through the city and he's like, you Speaker 2 (6:04) know, I love Speaker 3 (6:05) hosting. Yeah, it's on my blog. This could get interesting. But, you know, it's an adventure. It's an adventure. By the way, I'm in love with somebody that I met two days ago on a TV show. Is it for storyline? Probably. But you know what? I'm an actor. I'm a firefighter. I'm a car racer. I'm a horse rider. Basically, do it all. Renaissance man. Include love bomber and possible stalker onto that. OK, because I do have her location already. got liam this was the episode liam officially gave me the creeps i Speaker 2 (6:35) think it well first of all let's let's not like overlook the him saying that hosting is in his blood what does that mean i come from a long line of people who love having people over pretty Speaker 3 (6:52) big my 23 and me was dinner rolls and white wine Speaker 2 (6:57) That's right. My bloodline came over on the Mayflower. And then once we arrived, we said, hey, everyone, who wants some anti-scravy oranges over at our place? We'll put them out. Posting is in our blood. Speaker 3 (7:13) We started Thanksgiving. Speaker 1 (7:15) One thing my Speaker 3 (7:15) family taught me on the Mayflower a long, long time ago, bring your guests blankets. You never know when it's going to get cold out there. Speaker 2 (7:22) It's in my blood. It's in my blood. Yeah, man. Back in Norway, where my bloodline goes to. That's right. There were Norwegian pilgrims. Little known fact. But back in Norway, we would go out, see a moose, and say, Miss, come Speaker 1 (7:39) on over for dinner. I'm going to feed you some Speaker 2 (7:41) brown cheese. Sorry, hosting. It's in our blood. Speaker 1 (7:46) That's Speaker 2 (7:47) what we do. Now, back to what you were saying about the episode that gives. I mean, gave you the creeps on Liam. I don't have the creeps on Liam. I just think that Liam is, he's playing a persona he's seen on TV. And the person that he really is, is just a little nerd who's really not gone very far with a hot girl. And suddenly he has, and he's like so excited and he's doing all the wrong things. And he's like, basically he's like oh Speaker 3 (8:15) my god i can't believe this is happening i gotta lock it down Speaker 2 (8:17) i've never had a hot girl like me before so uh he's just like oh really that's Speaker 1 (8:22) the vibe Speaker 2 (8:23) i guess way Speaker 3 (8:23) of looking at it that's not how i'm looking at it i'm looking at it like this guy comes onto a tv show immediately wants the most popular girl so he can be with the most popular girl on tv she's just broken up with the guy he doesn't care which is you know okay but then he's immediately getting jealous and he has her location and shit. I don't, it's weird to me. Like, I don't approve of it. And you know her only on TV. So I Speaker 2 (8:49) think he seems like a fucking weirdo. I don't like him. Well, he's definitely a weirdo. I don't approve of this. And I'm not saying like one thing doesn't have to be different from the other. I just, I just feel like the, the, the version of Liam that he presents to us, I don't feel like it's a real him. I just think he's like a nerd and he's like, he's just spiraling out because he's like, this is very exciting for him. And this is, I'm not saying this, like, isn't that so cute? I'm saying it like, dude, get it together. I do think like the whole thing of like, wow, like I said, I was going to bed and then she didn't come up to bed with me. It actually really took me back to high school because there was a child actor in my high school who acted exactly the same way as Liam. That's why I have like so many direct. like mental comparisons because like he, every single thing he did, the way he carried himself, the way he talked, the way he did things, but also the way he was like, tried to create codependency with his girlfriend. It's like exactly the same. And I'm like, is this just like what child actors do? I'm based on a sample size of one and then someone on TV. I don't know, but that's where, that's where I'm coming from. Man, John and Mickey really threw you over. I'll tell you the Speaker 3 (10:02) number on you. Speaker 2 (10:03) I'll tell you, man. Speaker 2 (10:06) Now is, I guess, a good time for me to mention that I was held back 14 years in a row. That's why he became my classmate. Speaker 3 (10:18) That Webster. God. Really did something to you. Speaker 2 (10:23) Yeah. It's a blind item. It's a blind item. Who is the child actor? There's no one famous, I'll tell you that much. Speaker 3 (10:30) Were they just like a local theater actor or what? Speaker 2 (10:35) I Speaker 3 (10:35) think they appeared on Speaker 2 (10:37) stage and they had like one bit role in like one movie. He's very nice. He's very nice. But it just like in a relationship, he was just so overbearing. It was like, well, now Speaker 3 (10:51) we go over to Ava's apartment and they're talking about the trip while they set up a little Christmas tree that they bought. And they're talking about rooms like who's getting their own room. And Charlie's like, I'm not sharing a fucking room with anybody. That's crazy. Like, honestly, but like, we don't get enough intel. Like, we need to ask, like, how many beds are in each room? Charlie, you're. you're not getting your own room in someone's family cabin. It's just, this is like classic housewives where we go to a family Speaker 2 (11:20) cabin. Speaker 3 (11:20) How many rooms do you think they have? Speaker 2 (11:23) Does anyone want to be rooming with Charlie, though? I mean, I feel like based on the last person they found in a townhome that Charlie was in, I'm not sure that's a situation I want to wind up in. I'll tell you Speaker 3 (11:36) who doesn't want to room with Charlie, anybody with Bitcoin. Speaker 2 (11:39) No one. No. Shai, make sure you stay analog. Speaker 3 (11:46) Yeah, I think Shai should. do the rooming thing because he's following around charlie like a puppy dog and charlie's trying to use him for you know being his little sidekick or whatever so there you go you weren't shy you got shot yeah have fun yeah Speaker 2 (12:00) exactly um i'm surprised hudson wasn't on this trip but maybe he was busy at a brother from uh don't tell mom i killed the babysitter's dead hair convention Speaker 3 (12:17) He's like, guys, I saw one of the cleaning ladies Speaker 2 (12:20) using a Swiffer Speaker 3 (12:21) duster, Speaker 2 (12:22) and I said, I've got to get that hair. So I'm working on it. Okay. I said, guys, I just saw weapons and Amy Madigan's character. Wow. Her hair was amazing. I thought, I just got to follow it. I just got to lean in. Speaker 3 (12:36) That's just somewhere with his arms out. Speaker 2 (12:39) Running towards method. He's running towards like douchey jewelry. So Charlie is not going to share a room. He has boundaries. And now he wants to know what the house, he wants a link to see what the house looks like. He wants Liam to send a link so he knows what the Airbnb is. And then basically everyone's making all these demands. Like, what about the, I don't want to live here. I don't want to be this. What's that? What's the layout? Where is it? How far is it? Is it got Northern exposure? What's going on? Yeah. Speaker 3 (13:12) Then we go to Georgia and shine. They're like, is there a hot tub? There needs to be a hot tub here. Do we even check to see if there's a hot tub? I don't know. Is there a hot tub? We should probably text them and see. If there's not a hot tub, we'll bring the hot tub. Speaker 2 (13:28) I can't tell if it's a good thing for Georgia to go to the hot tub because it's probably the closest she'll get to being cleaned. Or is it a bad thing because then people have to be in the hot tub with Georgia's germs? Hey, how dare you? She's coming out with a cleaning product called Speaker 3 (13:45) Yuck. Speaker 2 (13:47) Formerly. The artist formerly known as Yuck. Speaker 3 (13:50) Yeah. So now Liam and Ava are on FaceTime and they're checking in on these rooms and stuff. She's like, is there any info you can give us about these rooms? Yeah, me and Speaker 1 (14:02) Ariana are working on it right now. We're basically Speaker 3 (14:04) married. So, Charlie, you're cool to share with Shy, right? He's like, definitely not, bro. I don't share. That's ridiculous. How many bedrooms are there? That's just what we're trying to find out. Just let me know. Okay, Charlie, you can't both try to sleep with the girl that this guy is dating and be an asshole. the whole time to him and then demand the best room in his house. You have to kind of manipulate here, Charlie. You have to at least pretend to be a good person until you get the good room. Come on. Speaker 2 (14:35) Yeah. Yeah. I could just Speaker 3 (14:36) try. Speaker 2 (14:38) Ava's like, I truly don't think Liam knows what he's gotten himself into. I love that when Ava talks, like her head starts to tilt over. It's like, ah, this talking is heavy. I just, she never really quite stays up. So then I didn't Speaker 3 (14:54) hear Ava speaking. If I was just watching this, like, you know, you kind of scroll through TikTok or whatever on silent to see what people are doing. Don't hear it. If I was doing that and I saw Ava, I would think that it sounded like this. Because her eyes are just blank. Like she's got this blank kind of stare in her eyes. But she doesn't talk like an idiot. It's not like she looks stupid. It just looks like nothing is happening behind her eyes. And then whenever she talks or says something really funny, I'm surprised Speaker 2 (15:27) because I just see. Yeah, seriously. And she's she's really come out of her shell this season. She's way more. energetic she's way a way bigger part of the show she seems to be more all in i think last season i felt like she was still considering modeling and like as her main gig and this time she's like oh this is now my new main gig so like definitely like great improvement on ava's part but i definitely get this energy and by the way as long as we're talking about ava i'm really amused that the producers still keep using that random footage of like her face and shy's face superimposed over little like hand-drawn bodies I don't know why that cracks me up every time they show it. They just keep showing Shia's head bobbing back and forth on this little, like, crayon man body. Speaker 3 (16:10) Yeah, I was trying to make out with her in Vegas. So now we go to Amira, and she's talking to Riley about the room situation. And, of course, you know, Charlie's having a fit about it. And Riley said, I said I would do a room with Amira, but I know she's not doing a bunk bed. And Amira's like, yeah, I've never slept in that. Speaker 1 (16:28) It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappin's commercial. Speaker 3 (16:36) And then we go to Rowan's apartment, and this is a lot of just back and forth about the room. It goes on and on and on and on. Nobody wants to share a room, okay? We don't Speaker 1 (16:46) need Speaker 3 (16:46) to. Well, Speaker 1 (16:47) some people said if they have to share a room, they may not even want to come. And I'll give you one guess who's saying it. And Speaker 3 (16:53) Brooks is like, I'm totally great if Charlie's uncomfortable with that. That's perfect. Speaker 2 (17:00) Liam's like. I knew there was going to be some fuss about the room situation, mainly because in a short film I wrote once that I never shot, I played a guy who didn't like rooms. And so I went from room to room. You ever hear of back rooms? It's called front rooms. And you're just trying to get out of rooms that are perfectly visible. And it was a great role. It's a shame it never got shot. But at one point we had Clooney attached. Speaker 2 (17:27) as someone who would hopefully see it someday. And I don't know if that ever worked out, but it was great. I learned a lot from it. I know about rooms because I'm an actor now. So thanks. Thanks, everyone. Speaker 3 (17:38) So now we go to Georgia. We see bright neon splat graphics that say, yuck, in like comic book font. And we find out this is Speaker 2 (17:49) the logo Speaker 3 (17:50) for Georgia's cleaning product. Speaker 2 (17:53) It's so fun. Yuck. Speaker 3 (17:56) Yuck. And she's meeting with her guy, Christian. He's like, um, Speaker 1 (17:59) hi. You're so excited about yuck. We're all thrilled about it. How are you feeling about Speaker 3 (18:04) yuck? Speaker 2 (18:05) You Speaker 3 (18:05) excited every day you wake up in the morning? We are. This is going to be huge, Georgia. Speaker 2 (18:11) Hey, Georgia. She's like, um, yeah, I don't like to talk too much about what I'm working on unless it's like coming to fruition. Speaker 3 (18:24) Yeah. And Speaker 2 (18:25) so then Christian's like, yeah, so we're going to show you a direction where the splat is the logo itself. So before it was like splat supporting a logo. Now splat is the logo. What do you think about that? Oh, Speaker 3 (18:37) my God. That's like sick. Can we talk about this logo? Okay. So you've got the comic book font already that says yuck, which is pretty stupid. But then he says it's going to be a splat. It looks like. it's just like splooged like it's like a long looks like your dream of like it's not a splat it's like a long drip it's disgusting it Speaker 2 (19:02) the product looks like something you use to to get a stain not to remove a stain it's called yuck and it's like a stain and it's like hey are you concerned that your sofa doesn't look lived in get yuck Speaker 3 (19:16) Do you have too many people wanting to come stay on your couch? Well, here, just spray some yuck on it. It'll look like you've been splooging on it for years. Speaker 2 (19:26) So, so that he's like, Christian's like, well, do we need to talk about the elephant in the room? Speaker 2 (19:35) which someone else or I guess now every season she's like, like, where's Cooper? Like, I'm going to be like moving in a different direction with a partnership. Like my idea is basically Cooper stays on is like creative consultant, you know. This is cold. She Speaker 3 (19:50) dumped Cooper from the business project. That's bad, George. Cooper's your gay. You can't just do that to your gay. What do you think is going to happen to you when you dump your gay? That guy is a vault. He's full. He's full of all of your information, George. I wouldn't do this. Now, I would just not do this because they're so close, not because he really brought a lot to the table. Because in our first business meeting, Christian's like, oh, my God, what are you thinking for cents, guys? What are we thinking? He's like, yabba. You know what? We could do, like, iconic things. Like, you know what's iconic? Pumpkin spice lattes. Speaker 2 (20:28) Pumpkin spice. It's like, thanks. Thanks, Cooper. It's probably for the best that he for him to not be messed up in this situation. And so then she's like, the producer says, so what's going on with you and Cooper? She's like, I can't talk about it. But if you have any questions, I can direct you to my attorney. And then they're like, yeah, she has not provided her attorney's information. It's Cooper. We just see the picture of the attorney. Cooper's like, Speaker 3 (20:57) hmm, yeah, I guess this is my job now. I will be suing myself. Speaker 3 (21:02) Georgia. Gaze work is never done. New Jersey Mall a few days before. What's that? Cooper Bedore. Cooper, yeah. He's like, wow. I came up with the new soap idea. Wow! Speaker 2 (21:17) It's not Speaker 3 (21:17) my Speaker 1 (21:17) fucking soap! Speaker 2 (21:19) So, meanwhile, as we approach the ski trip, Rowan and Riley don't know how to ski, so they've gone to the place where everyone