S06E09 - Iruvar - Eer Ethir Thuruvangal Analysis ft. Obito, Shisui, Sarada, Izuna

Veera Uchiha Podcast

The episode features a deep dive into the 1997 film 'Iruvar', analyzing its portrayal of political figures like MGR and Karunanidhi. The hos

Key takeaways

• The film 'Iruvar' is praised for its technical excellence in sound mixing and realistic scene construction.
• Hosts argue that the movie's portrayal of MGR and Karunanidhi serves as a lens to view modern political dynamics.
• A discussion on how 'rage-baiting' on social media platforms like Instagram is used by modern actors to trigger engagement.
• Mani Ratnam is highlighted for his ability to adapt complex historical narratives into cinematic storytelling.
• The hosts suggest that the use of digital bots and polarized content is a tool for political control in the current era.

Main topics

• Iruvar film analysis
• Tamil Nadu political history
• Mani Ratnam's direction

Notable quotes

Cinema is a mainstream media. It is spreading through the media.

Conclusion

The episode provides a nuanced look at how historical cinema informs m

Transcript preview

Speaker 3 (0:00) Okay. Speaker 3 (0:06) I am in bus so I will be muted sometimes. Speaker 5 (0:12) I will Speaker 3 (0:13) tell Speaker 5 (0:16) the Speaker 3 (0:16) context to the audience. Today we are in Bosnet. We will have a meeting today. He messaged us in the group about what we are going to talk about next. We asked him why he said like this and he said he will call me at night. Speaker 3 (0:34) It's 9.30 am and he hasn't come yet. That's why I'm calling him and asking him to come to the Ola Kareykal. It's going to Speaker 5 (0:42) be Speaker 3 (0:42) interesting. Speaker 5 (0:45) Ok, I'll call you later. Speaker 1 (0:50) The person you are speaking with has put your call on hold. Please stay on the line. Speaker 1 (1:18) The person you are talking to is holding your call. Tell me Speaker 5 (1:24) sir. Speaker 4 (1:26) Meeting? Speaker 5 (1:27) Not meeting. Tell me. You said meeting. Then where is he? He Speaker 4 (1:31) is watching Speaker 5 (1:31) a movie with Speaker 4 (1:31) his family. Speaker 5 (1:32) What movie are you watching? Speaker 4 (1:35) Vishwanathan Sons. You watch Speaker 5 (1:37) Vishwanathan Sons. Then you can ask him to come here and you can go to the movie. Speaker 4 (1:43) I haven't seen the movie yet. I've been watching it on TV. How do you watch it on TV? Speaker 5 (1:47) I'm watching it on Speaker 4 (1:49) Netflix. Is Speaker 5 (1:51) it Speaker 4 (1:51) on Speaker 5 (1:51) Netflix now? It Speaker 4 (1:52) came today. Speaker 5 (1:54) You talk to him. Speaker 4 (1:56) We'll talk tomorrow. Speaker 5 (1:58) We'll talk tomorrow. Okay, take okay. Start okay. Speaker 4 (2:02) Start okay. Okay, Speaker 5 (2:04) pa. I'll talk to you later. Okay, pa. Speaker 5 (2:23) See friends, our CC is getting scolded every time. He wants justice. Now he is thinking it is a comedy. Speaker 5 (2:37) But in the next episode, this is the opening statement. This is the pre-skit. Speaker 3 (2:42) Many people are asking why the episode is delayed. The episode is not delayed. It is not 0.000001 % like this. We can postpone this meeting tomorrow itself. We can postpone the episode tomorrow. Speaker 5 (3:00) I have my involvement in that too. But my involvement is only 50 % You are Speaker 3 (3:05) saying that in front of everyone. You Speaker 5 (3:07) are saying that in Speaker 3 (3:07) front Speaker 5 (3:08) of Speaker 3 (3:08) everyone. Speaker 5 (3:08) Yes, yes. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell you in the evening. I will tell So, you don't know who to get in the comments and which DM box to go to. Why Speaker 3 (3:34) do you get DMs? You don't say, how are you brother, Madhavasky? I said Speaker 4 (3:39) it. Speaker 5 (3:42) I Speaker 3 (3:42) said it. Speaker 5 (3:46) They will get DMs from my DMs, but I don't use it. Speaker 1 (3:52) I Speaker 5 (3:52) don't know how Speaker 1 (3:54) many Speaker 5 (3:54) people have Speaker 1 (3:55) got Speaker 5 (3:55) DMs from Instagram. I will know only after seeing it. Speaker 5 (4:00) Okay, I'll just end it here. Speaker 4 (4:13) What is this? The image of Black Chit show has changed. When did you do all Speaker 2 (4:17) this? Speaker 4 (4:17) It Speaker 2 (4:18) changed before last half an hour. Has Speaker 4 (4:20) it changed? Yes. No one has changed. Speaker 3 (4:24) What is this? Speaker 5 (4:25) It Speaker 3 (4:25) looks like a Speaker 5 (4:25) green onion. Speaker 3 (4:27) It looks like a carrot and a carrot. Speaker 5 (4:30) Hey, Speaker 3 (4:30) are Speaker 5 (4:31) you a cheater? Speaker 3 (4:32) See, it is 2226 changes. Even in the discard, there Speaker 4 (4:35) is a Speaker 3 (4:35) change. Speaker 4 (4:37) No, when I said this change... I know how much Lalitha Jolary is a great person. After the Speaker 3 (4:45) election, Speaker 4 (4:47) he said that everything has changed in Tamil Nadu. Then he said, hey, are you dumb? We Speaker 5 (4:54) will go down Speaker 4 (4:55) and Speaker 5 (4:55) comment. Your shop in Trichy has also changed. That threat. That Speaker 3 (5:01) is trending. He says he does vlogs. He Speaker 5 (5:05) has become an adult. Like Speaker 3 (5:07) Cobra is a genius, He doesn't post daily vlogs in Tamil. He posts in Kannada, Hindi, Kerala, all languages. Same content, different language. He saves everything. Speaker 4 (5:19) He Speaker 3 (5:19) does everything. Speaker 4 (5:20) I'll Speaker 5 (5:21) tell you what. You were saying earlier that he's getting outdated. Now he's outdated and has come to Instagram. Speaker 3 (5:30) He's telling us to be smart and not to be lazy. Speaker 5 (5:34) He's living his life. Speaker 5 (5:36) Why Speaker 3 (5:37) don't we take this thing with Rajini? How many people are saying this? People who like it... What's the dialogue? I'm asking you like Speaker 4 (5:46) Rajini. I'm talking like Rajini. Why are Speaker 3 (5:53) you talking to yourself? Speaker 4 (5:55) I'm Speaker 3 (5:56) not Speaker 4 (5:56) telling you. He's going to bite me. He's talking in a state today. I don't know if it's law or not. What's that? But my brother taught me this political stuff. I don't know this at all. But he speaks about politics. That's Speaker 3 (6:12) when Mersel came. Mersel was 10 years old. I'm talking about politics because you Speaker 5 (6:18) guys made that movie run. Speaker 3 (6:25) I would have Speaker 4 (6:26) thought of that pant after seeing Marcel. Speaker 3 (6:28) Oh my god! Look at him! He is not Speaker 4 (6:32) that Speaker 3 (6:32) big of Speaker 4 (6:33) a Speaker 3 (6:33) deal. I will tell you about Speaker 5 (6:35) Izuna's reaction. They will cut a promo on Sun TV. He would Speaker 4 (6:42) have Speaker 5 (6:42) thought Speaker 4 (6:42) that he Speaker 5 (6:42) needs a whole era to become a leader. No, Speaker 4 (6:47) no. I will go Speaker 3 (6:49) to Speaker 4 (6:49) Marcel's getup for the Marcel movie. I will go to the waste bin and get a black brand. Speaker 3 (7:00) Sir, you are still wearing the template of Andradum Valkyrie. You are Speaker 4 (7:06) wearing only Speaker 3 (7:06) the green Speaker 4 (7:06) clothes. Speaker 5 (7:07) No, I am wearing the white shirt. Speaker 4 (7:09) That is the peak. I am Speaker 5 (7:12) wearing the dress code and I am not going to go to the movies. I am wearing the Diwali dress code. I am sitting like this. I Speaker 3 (7:19) came to the movies before my movie. Speaker 3 (7:23) God bless you. Speaker 4 (7:26) Last episode, everyone in our team was very happy Speaker 2 (7:32) with Vivekam. Speaker 4 (7:33) I too heard about it. Even if you talk about me in many ways, even Speaker 1 (7:39) if you ask me Speaker 4 (7:40) how many times, I don't care. I am going to be a Speaker 3 (7:49) citizen Speaker 4 (7:49) for the government. Speaker 4 (7:52) No podcast will forget their past. No one will talk about their past. What Speaker 3 (7:59) they Speaker 4 (7:59) said was good and good. Do it well, brother. I think he will not forget what Speaker 2 (8:06) I Speaker 4 (8:06) said. Speaker 3 (8:06) He has Speaker 4 (8:07) promised me. It's a great episode. I haven't asked you fully. I have some balance. You Speaker 3 (8:17) asked me till when. I asked you till my scolding. Speaker 3 (8:21) That's why you Speaker 4 (8:22) stopped for Speaker 3 (8:22) 5 minutes and then you went Speaker 4 (8:25) to the Speaker 3 (8:25) build up. Cut it. Cut it. I Speaker 4 (8:29) asked Speaker 3 (8:29) you if Speaker 4 (8:29) you Speaker 3 (8:29) are Speaker 4 (8:29) going into the analysis. Speaker 3 (8:32) I Speaker 4 (8:32) asked you fully. Analysis? Where did that episode happen? Speaker 3 (8:38) In the beginning of the game... You Speaker 5 (8:41) don't understand what kind of attack he is doing. Speaker 3 (8:44) Irugodugal bro, you know the Irugodugal effect? Speaker 4 (8:54) I Speaker 3 (8:55) am Speaker 4 (8:56) in Speaker 5 (9:12) a zone I said, let's analyse this. Speaker 1 (9:17) They were talking about this like they came to Speaker 5 (9:17) Kuruksala Kausi. If they were near, I would have taken the compass and pointed. At that time, they were coming to point. Wherever they go, Speaker 4 (9:28) they bring me till the end. Ask what they are. Why did that person go? Whatever reference he takes, they are saying that it is Madhura. They are saying that it is Madhura. They are saying that it is Madhura. We Speaker 3 (9:40) have to show your presence, Speaker 4 (9:42) Madhura. Speaker 4 (9:44) Show Speaker 3 (9:44) your Speaker 4 (9:44) presence. Show your presence. Speaker 2 (9:46) My Speaker 4 (9:47) mother is also Speaker 2 (9:48) in Speaker 4 (9:48) the hospital. What are you Speaker 3 (9:51) worried about? You celebrated your birthday happily. Your family also went back home. It's a full jalsa. What else do you want? When Speaker 5 (9:59) did all Speaker 4 (9:59) this happen? When did you record it? Talk about the relationship. Speaker 5 (10:05) I'm okay with everything else. But you came Speaker 1 (10:07) when you Speaker 5 (10:07) were on status. Speaker 5 (10:10) I feel uneasy when I hear that name. Speaker 4 (10:16) I Speaker 5 (10:16) feel uneasy when I hear Speaker 4 (10:17) that name. Speaker 3 (10:49) I was talking to Kagami's son and he was talking to me nicely. I asked him, Good night. Speaker 4 (10:59) is this Speaker 3 (11:00) uncle's son not a good son? Speaker 4 (11:03) I thought he was a good son. Speaker 3 (11:06) Why do young people ask this? I don't know. Why? Speaker 4 (11:10) They ask Speaker 3 (11:11) for real. Speaker 4 (11:12) They know it. They know how to ask. It's Speaker 3 (11:16) been 24 years. What's the hurry in life? They talk. Speaker 5 (11:24) They feel ashamed. Speaker 3 (11:26) Sir, you've been through a lot. I'm not getting on the bus. Why Speaker 4 (11:32) are you getting angry? He'll experience it. Speaker 4 (11:36) You will also experience it. Good things that are good. I will not say that. I will not say that. That is wrong. That is right. Speaker 3 (11:47) But if Speaker 4 (11:47) you see, we cannot say that. It happens to anyone. Speaker 3 (11:52) We Speaker 4 (11:53) should not say anything. We cannot do that. We can go into the episode. Why are you talking Speaker 3 (12:00) like you are talking? I Speaker 4 (12:02) am talking Speaker 3 (12:02) about Speaker 4 (12:02) someone. Speaker 1 (12:03) I Speaker 4 (12:03) am Speaker 1 (12:03) speaking Speaker 4 (12:03) in Koyamthiru language. Who is this guy? If you are missing a lot of people, you can talk about him. I spoke like him. I thought he is someone else. Okay, let's not do that. Let's not do that. Okay, if you watched this episode, now our people are listening. Now only he is coming into the topic. I understand what you think. If you suddenly come to me with this episode, Some of them are understandable. They are here because of the needs of the time. Recently, we saw a reel and me and Obito were talking about it. We were thinking about what they have done in this film. Speaker 2 (12:52) How Speaker 4 (12:53) they have mis-said many things. Speaker 4 (12:56) Instead of narrating the story, how do they turn the emotions into another track? Speaker 5 (13:06) How do they conceal the emotions? Speaker 4 (13:09) I am telling the truth. I am telling what happened. But when I say, the emotions that people had that day, they should not come back to the same emotions today. How do we conceal that? Speaker 4 (13:26) He told us about 3-4 things about the movie. Who is he? Speaker 3 (13:34) There is a person named Balu. Is Speaker 4 (13:38) it Sugunathibakar? Sugunathibakar? There is Speaker 3 (13:42) no Speaker 4 (13:42) one. What is Balu? He is a Speaker 3 (13:44) journalist. Speaker 5 (13:53) He is a journalist who speaks on our side and on the left side. He is a person who follows Periyar. He is a person who has been in the drama. Speaker 5 (14:05) He would write a script for this and that. He would have told this in a video and would have told it randomly in reels. What is the problem in that? If we don't talk about this, there will be a lot of arguments and arguments. I was thinking about that. Then I saw it again and thought, we are going to get into trouble. At the end, we would have felt like a mess. I felt a sense of shame. Speaker 5 (14:33) Even Speaker 3 (14:34) though I Speaker 5 (14:34) knew Speaker 3 (14:34) it Speaker 5 (14:34) wouldn't Speaker 4 (14:34) happen, Speaker 5 (14:35) I was still in that situation. But Speaker 4 (14:40) they Speaker 5 (14:44) have made Speaker 4 (14:44) it so Speaker 5 (14:44) that it is enough to give a personal touch and not a political touch. That's how the film itself is built. Speaker 5 (15:01) He has covered it like a full-fledged statue. Speaker 4 (15:07) So, when we saw the reels, we thought, okay, we will Speaker 3 (15:11) also Speaker 4 (15:11) talk Speaker 3 (15:12) about this in depth. Speaker 4 (15:13) Not only about this, but also about the movie itself. What is there in the movie? Is there any misinformation? If there is, how is it? If the correct information is brought in a different tone, we will dissect it and make it into an episode. So, we decided to watch the movie. We will see that and gather some things later. First Speaker 1 (15:41) of Speaker 4 (15:42) all, a movie like this, a movie that has made a human being like this, no one has shown a villain in it. We have all seen it. Prakash Raj is not a villain. He is a good character but there are some layers. So, they showed him very well. But, there were some layers to that film. It was a neutral film. It was in a very good level. Because, the film came out in 1997. Speaker 1 (16:16) The film should have Speaker 4 (16:18) come out before that. No one should know why it didn't come out. Everyone knows what happened till 1996. So, Speaker 4 (16:30) They released this movie late. Now, our CCV would have made something for this. He would have started from that. Come, tell me, my friend. Sorry. Speaker 3 (16:40) Sorry. I will take it. He won't Speaker 4 (16:42) take it for the required movie. Now, he Speaker 3 (16:44) is... I enjoyed watching it. It was released on the first night. I thought there would be something Speaker 4 (16:50) in it. Then, there was nothing. Why did your movie get crossed? I watched Speaker 5 (16:56) it Speaker 4 (16:56) for a long Speaker 5 (16:56) time. It was good. Then, I came to get the recording. Speaker 4 (17:00) Why did you watch it? Speaker 3 (17:01) I watched Speaker 4 (17:02) it Speaker 3 (17:02) on Netflix. Obito, Obito. I remember this movie. I watched a movie the Speaker 4 (17:11) other day. Speaker 3 (17:11) I would Speaker 4 (17:12) have Speaker 3 (17:12) come Speaker 4 (17:12) to Speaker 3 (17:12) the recording. I watched Speaker 4 (17:14) a movie called Speaker 3 (17:14) Viswanathan and Magalgal. It was a superb movie. I killed it. Speaker 4 (17:20) I Speaker 3 (17:20) watched Speaker 4 (17:21) the Speaker 3 (17:21) recording and I was Speaker 4 (17:21) like, no, Speaker 3 (17:21) don't do it. I was sitting there and watching the movie. It Speaker 4 (17:24) was good. What's wrong with that movie? Speaker 4 (17:28) We are Speaker 3 (17:29) saying that it is a good movie. I Speaker 4 (17:32) was watching it with the recording of my Ravatham. Speaker 5 (17:36) You don't understand Speaker 3 (17:37) the Speaker 5 (17:37) reference. The audience is like that when the episode is released. Speaker 3 (17:41) When the episode is released, if Speaker 5 (17:43) you listen to the Speaker 3 (17:43) intro, Speaker 5 (17:44) it Speaker 3 (17:45) will be a great explanation. Speaker 5 (17:49) You do it. He will try to record it. Speaker 4 (17:52) They are going to record the intro separately. Speaker 5 (17:56) They Speaker 4 (17:56) are going Speaker 3 (17:56) to talk about anything. Speaker 4 (17:59) No, I Speaker 3 (18:00) was going to say something about the MGR meme. I was going to say something about the MGR meme. I was Speaker 4 (18:09) going Speaker 3 (18:11) to say Speaker 4 (18:11) something about the MGR meme. I was going to say something about the MGR meme. I was going to say something about the MGR meme. I was going to say something about the MGR meme. Speaker 3 (18:14) I Speaker 4 (18:14) was going Speaker 3 (18:14) to say something about the Speaker 4 (18:14) MGR meme. Speaker 3 (18:15) I was going to Speaker 4 (18:15) say something about Speaker 3 (18:15) the MGR Speaker 4 (18:15) meme. Speaker 3 (18:16) I Speaker 5 (18:16) was going Speaker 3 (18:16) to say Speaker 5 (18:16) something about the Speaker 3 (18:16) MGR meme. Speaker 5 (18:17) I was going to Speaker 3 (18:17) say something about Speaker 5 (18:17) the MGR meme. Speaker 3 (18:17) I was going to say Speaker 5 (18:18) something about the MGR meme. Speaker 3 (18:18) I Speaker 5 (18:18) was going to say something about the MGR meme. I was going to say something about the MGR meme. I was going to say something about the MGR meme. I was going to say something about the MGR meme. I was going to say something about the MGR meme. I was going to say something about the MGR meme. I was going to say something about the MGR He Speaker 4 (18:24) is doing many Speaker 5 (18:24) things like this and I am doing this. We will do it one day. Speaker 4 (18:28) Okay, so this movie created a lot of controversy at that time. We were not related to this movie. So, I was worried that they will release the movie. But the thing we have to see in this movie is... If you are listening to this movie as a Majin Buu fan... Maniratnam is a Speaker 3 (18:53) character Speaker 4 (18:53) who can adapt a story to make it into a film. The Speaker 2 (19:04) story Speaker 4 (19:04) of Arjun and Karan is made by Thalapathy. He also had a grudge against Ravan. Agni Nechathram is also a character like that. Speaker 4 (19:19) I can't sing well. I can only understand Ponni and Selvan. Ravi Speaker 3 (19:24) Krishna Ponni and Selvan? You said that. That Speaker 4 (19:27) one. I can only remember that song. See, Speaker 3 (19:34) two mangoes in one stone. I spoke like Ravi Krishna and sang K. Parvasi's song. Speaker 4 (19:39) K. Parvasi's song? This song? Daily Loss of One Month. I was thinking that Speaker 2 (19:43) if I Speaker 4 (19:43) speak like Speaker 2 (19:43) a dialogue, it's K. Parvasi's song. Speaker 4 (19:46) Oh my god! What are you doing? Speaker 3 (19:50) But I will tell you one thing. After the movie Ponniyan Selvan, Madhavan will close his eyes and kiss you. Because his sister-in-law is in that movie. Speaker 4 (19:59) Who is that? Is it Aishwarya Lakshmi? Sir, you have left your sister-in-law behind. Is it known? Don't call her sister-in-law. It's Speaker 3 (20:07) a greeting Speaker 4 (20:07) to Speaker 3 (20:07) Maan Bommi. Speaker 4 (20:13) The difference Speaker 3 (20:13) between Speaker 4 (20:13) voting and greeting? That's something that can happen. There are many things that are relevant today. We can draw parallels like Speaker 3 (20:21) you Speaker 4 (20:21) did. But they will vote for us too. Speaker 1 (20:27) So, Speaker 4 (20:28) we can close it. As I said, the movie is about them openly. There will be some censorship in the movie. There will be dialogues. Speaker 4 (20:42) They are giving a request to mute all the important arguments. The first card that they put after taking the film is... This is not Speaker 3 (20:52) a true incident. Speaker 4 (20:53) That is, in this unfortunate youth... Speaker 4 (21:01) My son has a moustache. So don't leave him alone. That's why they say. That moustache. That's why they say. That's why they say. That's why they say. That's why they Speaker 5 (21:10) say. That's why they say. That's why they say. That's why they say. That's why they say. Speaker 4 (21:17) That's Speaker 5 (21:17) why Speaker 4 (21:17) they Speaker 5 (21:17) say. Speaker 4 (21:17) That's why they say. Speaker 4 (21:25) I don't accept that completely. I agree that this film is not a genuine attempt to portray someone as a good. Speaker 4 (21:51) Without taking the history of Kalangir, without talking about the history, you cannot touch the history of MGR. To make MGR a good person, you cannot show Kalangir as a believer. Speaker 3 (22:04) If Speaker 4 (22:05) you show like Speaker 3 (22:05) that, Speaker 4 (22:05) it will be very dangerous and no one will accept it. So, that's why MGR's story is not taken. Even the story written in jail, a person who said, hello, I'm going to take the story written in jail, got down. After Speaker 2 (22:19) that, Speaker 3 (22:19) the Speaker 4 (22:19) series was cancelled and the season 2 was cancelled. They Speaker 3 (22:24) told me Speaker 4 (22:24) to sit quietly and not to play. Speaker 4 (22:31) Yes, he was cheating the world. For the season 1, we were curious about the free run in MX Player. So, we decided to watch it. The release of MX Player was... Tell me, Frans. Speaker 3 (22:46) No, the first web series I watched in my life was that one. Because I watched it in MX Player for free. It's Speaker 4 (22:53) not wrong. I Speaker 3 (22:54) also watched it like that. Speaker 5 (22:55) It's not wrong. You watched it and believed it. Speaker 4 (22:59) So, we started with Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Speaker 2 (23:06) Amma, Speaker 4 (23:06) Amma, Speaker 2 (23:06) Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Speaker 4 (23:06) Amma, Speaker 2 (23:07) Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Speaker 4 (23:07) Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Speaker 5 (23:10) Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Amma, Speaker 4 (23:18) Amma, I don't know from which Speaker 5 (23:31) angle she looked like her mother. Even Speaker 4 (23:35) if she Speaker 5 (23:37) was wearing a s**t mask, she would have said that she was going to act like a s**t in her payal peak. But the idea is... Speaker 5 (23:55) They Speaker 4 (23:56) don't Speaker 5 (23:56) kill. If I say this name, they will immediately say it. Speaker 4 (23:59) That's why Sat is a sign of respect. Speaker 1 (24:06) You Speaker 4 (24:07) have made Sat famous. Yes. Vikatan Speaker 5 (24:14) Kalushar has written that. He Speaker 4 (24:17) has Speaker 5 (24:17) bought a video from PMU. Speaker 4 (24:19) There is a chance. Speaker 4 (24:23) He is talking in a different way than what I have seen before. Speaker 4 (24:28) Okay, let's get into the topic. The movie Irvvar is not a movie that we should be skeptical about. I will say what I saw. I am not educated. I will say what I know. Like Bala said. From what I know, I noticed that this movie has given a punch in some places. Because openly, till now, no one has Jailita and MGR are the common people. They will say that they are the same. Today, how can they say that they are brothers and sisters? Why don't you know to see friends? They are asking like this. There is a group like this still. But in the middle of it, in such a movie, I was scared for this. I was shocked to see her standing in the temple. Speaker 3 (25:54) No, Speaker 4 (25:55) I have Speaker 2 (25:58) been casting you Speaker 4 (25:58) as the most beautiful girl in the world. I don't know if I am a good girl or not. Speaker 4 (26:13) If someone shows us something that didn't happen before, we will be happy. If someone shows us something that happened before, we will be happy. They might have liked it Speaker 5 (26:23) and that's why they Speaker 4 (26:25) don't know. Yes, that's possible. Speaker 3 (26:29) Have you guys met in a public place and neglected it? Speaker 4 (26:34) Since there are two people in one thread, we Speaker 5 (26:36) can't Speaker 4 (26:36) neglect it. Speaker 4 (26:39) It's a thread line. Speaker 4 (27:08) Even if they Speaker 5 (27:09) sit Speaker 4 (27:09) and watch Vijay TV, they won't talk about the real story? No, they Speaker 5 (27:14) won't. Speaker 4 (27:16) If Speaker 5 (27:16) there is less TRP, they will do it. Speaker 4 (27:21) So, we will watch the movie and see how it is. We have already watched it. We will see if there is another perspective for today's political science. Speaker 4 (27:36) Interstellar opens up every time. Does it open up like that? What is opening? It Speaker 5 (27:44) opens up like a Speaker 4 (27:44) diamond. It opens Speaker 5 (27:47) up like a Speaker 4 (27:47) diamond. Speaker 5 (27:48) Tell her to be quiet. She is not listening. Speaker 4 (27:51) You are saying that it will open up or not. What can we do? Speaker 5 (27:55) That's it. Speaker 4 (27:57) If we can see if a new perspective is opening up, I saw this movie. I hope you all have watched it. Did you notice any difference between the two movies? If you noticed any difference, please share it with us. Speaker 4 (28:19) Tell me, C Speaker 3 (28:20) -suite. Speaker 4 (28:21) I thought you would start Speaker 3 (28:22) with a big one. No, Speaker 5 (28:25) I will talk. I will talk in a big way. Then, I will say, oh my God. Oh Speaker 3 (28:29) my God. If Speaker 5 (28:29) you Speaker 3 (28:29) say you will talk, it will have a lot of context. I will talk Speaker 5 (28:34) for Speaker 3 (28:34) 10 minutes. No need for Speaker 5 (28:36) that. Okay, you finish talking and I will talk. Speaker 3 (28:38) Okay, okay. Speaker 3 (28:41) Actually, I got the chance to watch this movie for the first time for this episode. Speaker 5 (28:44) Jaya TV used to have this movie regularly. Jaya TV was the satellite Speaker 3 (28:47) that used to have this movie, right? So, I didn't get the interest to Speaker 4 (28:53) watch it on TV. Speaker 3 (28:53) Nobody Speaker 4 (28:53) gets the interest to watch Jaya TV. Speaker 3 (28:57) So, I used to watch it for the sake of it and just watch a few scenes. So, I had an idea about Kalinayan and MGR. Speaker 3 (29:08) Secondly, I think people would have been asking if I have seen a good movie like Yudhvar in Speaker 5 (29:14) the cinema. I have Speaker 3 (29:16) always wanted to watch Maniratnam movies. But I didn't have the energy to watch it. Because a movie is a movie that is opposite to the words spoken in the movie. Framing and visualisation are okay. But I don't understand what they are saying. They are speaking in Tamil but I don't understand anything. So, I didn't get the chance to do it. Speaker 2 (29:39) So, Speaker 3 (29:40) I am Speaker 5 (29:40) watching this Speaker 3 (29:40) film now. Speaker 5 (29:43) It's not that. You are Speaker 2 (29:44) a Speaker 5 (29:44) Thug Life. What else did he do before this? He Speaker 4 (29:48) is a Speaker 5 (29:48) Chekkachivan. I am watching Speaker 4 (29:49) these Speaker 5 (29:49) films. So, I am watching Speaker 4 (29:52) this Speaker 5 (29:52) film. Who wrote Speaker 4 (29:52) the lyrics? Sugasini. Sugasini Speaker 5 (29:56) wrote the lyrics for this Speaker 4 (29:56) film. Speaker 3 (29:59) Shall I say something? The first film I saw in Maniratnam's film archive was Chekkanchai Vananandam. How was it? Speaker 5 (30:06) It Speaker 3 (30:07) was superb. I liked that film. It was Speaker 5 (30:10) really good. I was there Speaker 3 (30:11) and I was like... Speaker 4 (30:14) I was Speaker 3 (30:14) happy. Speaker 4 (30:15) I was going around and around. It Speaker 3 (30:17) was fun. It was a good content. Yes. Now, I am going to watch this film. What I thought was... Speaker 3 (30:28) I have based my friendship on this movie. Speaker 4 (30:33) I Speaker 3 (30:34) thought of the way the friendship was formed and I watched the movie. It was a full sack. It was like they had taken everything in different ways. Speaker 3 (30:54) I felt like this movie is wrong because of the data. Actually, thanks to SVK. If SVK hadn't made an episode about MGR, I wouldn't have debunked half of the things in this movie. And they Speaker 5 (31:11) had told the truth Speaker 3 (31:11) about what happened to MGR. It was good. It was a very neutral film. I went to Madurai and took the film. I think it Speaker 4 (31:28) has a neutral shade. Speaker 3 (31:33) You can only see the great characters which I have developed. You can't see the so called good guys. Manirathan's voice is the best. Speaker 5 (31:45) Super. Speaker 4 (31:47) He is talking about money Speaker 5 (31:48) but Manirathan's voice is the best. Speaker 3 (31:52) The characters I've developed, you should watch them. Speaker 3 (32:11) He is Veerakodi Vella. Why Speaker 4 (32:14) are you roaming around? Come out. Leave me. We agree. You are Manilatnam and Gautam Vasudev Manal. You are talking about both. We Speaker 2 (32:24) agree. Speaker 4 (32:26) Please don't play. It's irritating. I Speaker 2 (32:29)