How Military Technology Became a Pain Relief Patch (The Accidental Breakthrough Nobody Expected)
The Vault Unlocked
This episode explores the accidental discovery of a pain relief patch developed from military antenna technology designed to reduce the weig
Key takeaways
- The accidental discovery of the patch came from military antenna technology designed to reduce weight for Navy SEALs.
- Electrical antennas naturally interacted with the body's electrical field before being connected to a radio.
Main topics
- Military technology innovation
- Accidental scientific discovery
Notable quotes
Pain is one of the most misunderstood problems in business and in life. Not emotional pain, but actual and physical pain.
Conclusion
The episode highlights how a military technology project led to an unexpected
Transcript preview
Speaker 2 (0:00) Pain is one of the most misunderstood problems in business and in life. Not emotional pain, but actual and physical pain. The kind that stops people from sleeping, from showing up, from doing the work. Chronic pain that doctors have written off. Pain that vets have carried for 30 years. My guest today built something out of a military antenna project originally designed to shrink an 80-pound backpack for Navy SEALs jumping out of planes. What came out of that is a patch, no drugs, no electricity, no side effects, 800,000 units sold, clinical results across five studies, and a track record that now has the White House paying attention. Mike Hammond is the founder of Signal Relief, and this conversation is going to make you rethink what you thought you knew about pain. the body, and what technology can actually do for people. This is The Vault. Let's unlock it. Speaker 2 (1:17) Mike, welcome to the show. How are you? I'm fantastic. I'm excited because I know it's a little bit different episode we're going to be having, but we're going to be talking about a product that you've created. I can't wait to talk about the story because we talked about a little bit earlier and it was a fascinating story here. But all the way from Signal Relief, you and your company are doing some game-changing things right now. In a world of AI where all this technology is happening. you are actually doing some physical game changing things for human beings. Absolutely. It's Speaker 1 (1:50) I wish I, I wish I could have like three hours just to like put on testimonials. Right. We're, we're very limited because it's because we're a health and wellness patch. We're very limited. We can't target diseases as such. And usually when people are talking about their problems, they're always telling you exactly what the problem was. which makes it so we can't use their, but man, the testimonials, it's like game changing for these people. It's, it's life changing. So. Speaker 2 (2:20) And I know, and you didn't even know what you were building when you first started. So let's go back. Let's reverse back to where did this all begin? Like who, who is Mike Hammond, by the way, right? Who is Mike Hammond, right? But when you were trucking, right, with the, I think it was the military, and all of a sudden things started happening. So I've Speaker 1 (2:43) been an entrepreneur my whole life. Ever since college, I've never worked for a person in my life. I always had my own businesses. I have 13 right now. It's just kind of been my thing. One of them was a large satellite retailer, and it's called Dish One Satellite. But by 2010, we were the largest in the United States. And Dish Network ended up buying us in 2012. So to just kind of give you an idea, I got my MBA at the U. It was an executive MBA. So most of my classmates were entrepreneurs and business owners or executives. And as soon as I sold my first company, Dish One, to Dish, It was like all my MBA buddies started calling me saying, hey, you should invest in this. Hey, bro, we should go do this. You know, it's just how it works. So one of them was actually he's Speaker 2 (3:38) a Speaker 1 (3:38) Marriott. His grandpa built the Marriott Hotels. OK, and so he runs Spectra Symbol, which basically it's a it's a company that was funded is funny. We actually researched them in our MBA class. And I'm looking through the financials and I noticed that it was the Marriott Foundation that originally funded him. And that's like, I'm like, he never tells anyone. I'm like, who's the Marriott? Like, is this your grandpa? He's like, yeah, it's my grandpa. So anyway, he was the CEO of their company that builds tech. And what they do is printable electronics. So smaller stuff like usually the motherboard of like an oil rig or a rainbird sprinkler, smaller stuff like that. And so he said, hey, I'm working on a new project right now that I know you're going to want to invest in. You got to come out here. Well, at the time, I'm now the CEO of Dish One Satellite, which is owned by Dish. So I work a lot with Charlie Ergen and those guys. So they fly out like I think six or between six or eight engineers with me come out to go see this new tech these guys are building. And what they did is they brought us to Heber. And what happened at the time, you got to go back in time. Back in 2012, when they deployed a team of Navy SEALs. one guy in that group had to carry around a five foot antenna and an 80 pound backpack. So these guys are jumping out of planes sometimes, right? Or like an 80 pound backpack's a problem. And so the department of defense was asking, they're trying to figure out a way to shrink this down and get rid of the weight in the backpack. So what happened is these guys claim they had built. an electrical antenna instead of magnetic. So our current antenna, as you point it in a direction, the more power you put behind it, the farther signal goes. Electrical is like a light bulb. Turn on a light bulb. It's like everywhere. But it goes 300 % farther on like one-tenth the power. But the problem is it picks up way more noise. So it's hard to get a signal from A to B, right? And so these guys have figured it out, supposedly. So what they did to show us their tech. is they had two little antennas the size of a credit card that they taped on a cell phone. You know those cell phone antennas like the towers? Speaker 2 (6:03) Yeah, okay, the big towers. Yeah. Speaker 1 (6:05) So they had two towers on each side of Heber, and they pointed them at each other, and they basically just sent ones and zeros across the city. And then when the ones and zeros hit the other tower, you would record how long it took. And then they had two credit cards with a 9-volt battery, and it was 300 % faster. Across the city. And these engineers are like, this is impossible. No way. So I was like, I gave him my almost a million bucks. I'm like, I'm in because I'm just kind of wired that way. I'm like, oh, this is awesome. I'm in. So I invested into their tech and they ended up building it and it kind of did what they said. But something that happened out of that is when we were putting the antennas on the soldiers before we ever hooked it into a radio, the antennas were picking up electrical. What we called it noise. And we were like, where's the noise coming from? So we'd go into another building and do it again. And it would pick up noise. And we're like, what the heck's going on? Well, come to find out it was the body. We just aren't doctors, but the body's electrical. And it basically, we were just picking up and the antennas were naturally interacting with the body's electrical field. So we Speaker 2 (7:14) got to stop there because that like, that's, there's so much here. Right. Speaker 1 (7:20) And I and I really want to understand this because this goes to a lot of stuff that I personally Speaker 2 (7:25) love, which is like, you know, we have spirit, we have energy and all, you know, and you're really touching on this, but like in a scientific way. So we're talking about Navy SEALs jumping out of a plane with satellites, you know, as long as whatever. Right. Eighty pound backpacks. And this team and you guys were tasked with how can we take these satellites? It was an antenna. Yeah. An antenna. Shrink it down. And shrink it right down. Speaker 1 (7:52) So you guys Speaker 2 (7:53) figure out, well, we know how to shrink it right down. So we get it down from this huge antenna to a size of a credit card. Is that correct? Yep. Speaker 1 (8:01) That's what they did. So now Speaker 2 (8:02) I'm jumping out of a plane with an 80 pound pack and not an antenna anymore. Just a little credit card that sits on my chest or something. And actually Speaker 1 (8:08) the amount of the pack was cut. I mean, it's one tenth the power. So way down. It changed everything for those guys. Right. And so, so when we noticed that it interacted with the body. that's actually what kicked off us being like, well, I wonder if we could do something if the body, if so, what's pain like Google, you should type it in your AI right now. What causes pain in the body? It's going to be an electrical frequency that your nerves generate that go up your neural pathway and hit the brain. The more energy it's just energy that hits the brain, the more pain you feel. So coming from the tech world, we're like, that's easy. So I'm going to explain this in layman terms. Lightning, everyone understands lightning. Lightning hits a house or a tree, boom. But if you put a stupid little lightning rod on your house, it will go across your house to the lightning rod into the ground. Why? Why does that work? Most people don't understand it, but energy always follows the path of least resistance. And so you're giving it an easier path to the ground so all that energy can just focus into the rod and then go to the ground. It's easier travel. What's kind of what our neural pathways create, right? With the blood and the veins and they generate that energy. It travels up the neural pathways to the brain. It's easier. When it hits this patch for 85 % of people, there's 15 % that are just a little bit different. And we built this basically, we can cover about 85%. We've done five clinicals and it's 85 % every time. So I want to be very clear. This is very, wow, very interesting. Speaker 2 (9:52) So you're saying 85 % of the population in our clinicals. Sorry? Yeah. Speaker 1 (10:00) 85 % of everyone in our clinicals, this works for. This Speaker 2 (10:04) works for. Meaning there's a set of a population where it doesn't work. Why is that? Because they don't generate. They're Speaker 1 (10:11) just Speaker 2 (10:11) a Speaker 1 (10:12) little bit different. We'd have to tweak it, right? Speaker 1 (10:15) Frequency attracts frequency. So this is a collection of certain products. I have to be careful with our patents that we basically put together that create a certain frequency. And so for what happens is when so if I hurt my hand and I stick this on my arm, usually 85 % of the time people are like, oh, it's getting warm or they feel a tingle. The reason why is that energy is. going up and hits the patch and all of a sudden it's easier for the energy to just go into the patch. So instead of going Speaker 2 (10:51) into the brain or going somewhere else, Speaker 1 (10:53) instead of going all the way up to the brain, we give it a highway out of the body. So this is what's cool. So chronic discomfort or normal discomfort, any of that type of stuff, pain is a disease. We have to get FDA cleared before we can be a pain patch, but discomfort. Speaker 1 (11:12) When it hits this patch and they feel it start to warm up for 85 %