Zelensky’s Press Secretary Returns From Exile With a Message for the Tyrant

The Tucker Carlson Show

In this episode, Tucker Carlson interviews Yulia Mandel, a Ukrainian journalist facing treason charges and sanctions under President Volodymyr

Key takeaways

• Yulia Mandel faces potential life imprisonment under treason charges following her interview with Tucker Carlson.
• Roberta Mazzola, head of the European Parliament, allegedly banned Mandel from entering to prevent a speech on peace.

Main topics

• Censorship in Ukraine
• Zelensky administration corruption

Notable quotes

Peace cannot be pro-Russian.

Conclusion

The episode provides a critical perspective on the internal political

Transcript preview

Speaker 3 (0:04) So thank you for coming back. And I just want to say I'm sorry. I knew there would be repercussions for your first interview that you did earlier this year with us. And apparently they were there were. Can you tell us what happened after that interview aired? Speaker 1 (0:18) Well, yes. Actually, thank you for giving me the platform first time and now, because right now Ukrainians are facing huge censorship everywhere, thanks to Volodymyr Zelensky. And our interview for me was a trouble. I know that after our interview, Zelensky ordered to have some kind of so-called linguistic expertise. And this is a corrupt practice that exists in the government of Ukraine that helps them prove something that they want to prove to execute their political persecution. So this linguistic expertise is still ongoing. However, I'm already under sanctions. If this linguistic expertise is finished, I'm going to face the treason charges that in Ukraine under martial law. can be from 15 years of prison to life sentence. So this is absolutely crazy. But let me explain why I am under sanctions. I was invited to have a speech in the European Parliament by the Alternative for Germany, AfD, one of the most actually popular party in Germany. And this was supposed to be a speech about the necessity of peace for Ukraine. We announced this speech, I think, approximately September 10th. And on the 10th of September, Zelensky introduced imposed sanctions on me. So what happened next was that when I arrived to the European Parliament on September 16th, when my speech needed to take place, I was buried from entering the European Parliament. And we were told they didn't know the reason. but that personally, Roberta Mazzola, who is the head of the European Parliament, banned me from entering. They also tried to ban the video transmission, and they did not allow to translate my speech into German and French. Thanks to FD, we managed somehow technically to have video transmission, and I even answered the questions. However, this shows a very huge problem, because I had... a lot of questions from Western journalists. Why Ukrainians don't speak about the necessity of peace? One journalist even told me that he had a feeling that no one in Ukraine except of Yulia Mandel wanted peace. But I see this growing tendency and I'm sitting here absolutely sure that majority of Ukrainians want peace as soon as possible because I get enormous support from everywhere. But nobody sees that. And I thought that it was the problem, you know, Ukrainians didn't have enough people to talk, enough contacts, enough experience or skills to reach the bigger platforms. But it happens that there is just a censorship, a huge censorship. Nobody wants to listen to Ukrainians who call for peace. And this is, to be frank, this is so heartbreaking and so disappointing because Ukraine today is looking at European Union. and the place of democracy, of freedom of speech. But in fact, it is very far from the reality. Yeah, so I'm under sanctions. What it means? It means that I cannot make any financial operations in Ukraine. No buying, selling properties, cars, nothing. My financial accounts are banned. My business accounts are cancelled, banned. I cannot have any bank accounts today. But there is another thing that Zelensky introduced in the sanctions. My three accounts on social media, it is Facebook, Instagram and X. And he... requested that these accounts are banned from Ukrainian audience, from the people who live in Ukraine. And if it's possible, I would really love to appeal, to address today to the people who work in META company and in X. Not asking only for myself, but asking for all Ukrainians who are on systematic basis are banned from talking to the Ukrainians in Ukraine. This happens all the time. I know the bloggers who repeatedly restart their pages because they call for peace. And then the Ministry of Culture of Ukraine requests to ban their accounts from Ukrainians. And if it's possible, I just would like to... underline that for Ukrainians today, social media is the only way actually to talk about peace. And if these accounts are banned, my accounts and accounts of other Ukrainians, then it actually disrupts any kind of communication. Because Ukrainians today discuss what are the possibilities of peace, how we see it, what are the issues for post-war Ukraine, what we can accept. This is the real matter. And I really would ask to be attentive to this because this is our way to show the world, to show journalists, to show politicians that there is this necessity to have peace. Speaker 3 (5:37) It's such a remarkable story. I remember our interview very well. And in it, you spoke as a Ukrainian, as a Ukrainian nationalist, as someone who loves Ukraine, as someone who is very critical of Russia and Vladimir Putin. You spoke directly to Putin in the interview and not in a friendly way. You said, please stop. And so nothing you said, nothing I've seen you say is pro-Russian or anti-Ukraine. You're simply. against watching your entire population, male population get killed. And so I don't understand how is that treason? Speaker 1 (6:14) Yeah, so this is a very corrupt practice in Ukraine that actually allows the politicians to persecute these loyal people. And Zelensky doesn't want anyone to talk about peace because, you know, J.D. Vance once wrote a remarkable essay in the New York Times where he said that the meth in Ukraine does not adapt. And over two years have passed since that, and the math in Ukraine still doesn't add up. We lose people every day, we lose territories every day. Just for you, the latest information that we got. The prime minister of Poland said that his Ukrainian colleagues told him that Ukraine loses killed and wounded 27,000 of soldiers monthly. in the front line. Add to this only verified UN numbers of killed and wounded civilians and it is around 3,000. So we get around 30,000 of Ukrainian soldiers and civilians dead or wounded every month, right? It's a terrible number. And if you think about the number of population, in 35 years of independence Ukraine has lost over half of its population, right? So To be frank, the war of attrition with Russia is nothing but suicidal policy, suicidal war. So I never justified what Putin has done. And I call this the crimes against humanity. And I will reiterate, his cruelty is unimaginable. But it does not mean that what Zelensky is doing is good for Ukraine. Yes. Because his policies are also suicidal, absolutely suicidal. So we counted the population in Ukraine and right now maximum we have 4 million of men of conscription age. In Russia there are 3842 million of men, so 10 times more. I mean this is absolutely suicidal to continue this war. And let me say to you that many people who support Ukraine, they think that if Ukraine continues this war, we will stay independent and preserve our sovereignty. But this is very much vice versa, because we are following now... Afghanistan path. And if this war continues, we have many more chances to become a vassal state and actually to have enormous degradation of society, economy and everything than if we try to find realistic path towards peace today. And then... try to restore our economy, our democracy, have elections, you know, try to return our people. And maybe later with time, if we have good diplomats at the table, maybe, you know, just maybe we will be able to return the territories. But right now we're choosing between the territories and people. And we are losing both. But most importantly, we lose our people. So this was what I told in the European Parliament. And after that... Roberta Mazzola sent her chief of staff to the AFD. He tried to apologize to the organizer from AFD, Hans Neuhoff, and said that they were told that I'm going to spread Russian propaganda. I'm a Ukrainian patriot. I'm having a lot of support from Ukrainians from every region today, writing, messaging, comments, everything. People wanted this to be out. And another point of this, before this speech was banned, I tried actually to reach the chief of staff of Roberto Mazzola. I wanted to talk to him. I was eager to show him this speech, but they didn't want to listen to anything. They just banned it based on getting information from Ukraine. Some Ukrainians were writing that this is personally Volodymyr Zelensky who asked Roberto Mazzola to ban me from the speech. And now I'm facing... a lot of attacks on social media. My accounts are being attacked. A lot of bots are there. You know, they're even trying to ban my Telegram channel. So I guess that there is a huge attention from the office of the president. All his, you know, talking heads, we were talking about talking heads, they are attacking me. But there is this fight. At least there is this fight. And I need to tell you that our interview really opened. A lot of things for Ukrainians. I got a lot of thanks. A lot of bloggers started talking more about what they see around, about the necessity to stop the war. I got a lot of thanks. They said, thank you, Yulia, for your interview to Tucker Carlson. You opened our eyes. So I'm sitting here understanding that you are one of a few platforms where Ukrainians can scream about the necessity of peace just to preserve ourselves, ourselves as a nation, as a country, as an independent state. Speaker 3 (11:11) Lots of people are using peptides to get in shape. Not all peptides are the same. 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