Trump’s Social Media Advisor Reveals All: Epstein, Iran, and Mark Levin’s Israeli Propaganda

The Tucker Carlson Show

In this episode of The Tucker Carlson Show, social media strategist Alex Periscowitz joins to discuss U.S. foreign policy under Trump, particularly the Iran deal, allegations of foreign interference in domestic politics, and the role of media and influencers. The conversation centers on claims of a coordinated effort to discredit the Iran agreement, the spread of misinformation about a $300 billio

Key takeaways

• The Trump administration achieved a 90-day Iran deal preventing nuclear enrichment, which Periscowitz claims was misrepresented by the media.
• Periscowitz alleges foreign governments funded right-wing influencers to prolong conflict narratives and discredit the Iran deal.
• A $1.5 million monthly contract with Brad Parscale for Israel was revealed, raising concerns about foreign influence in U.S. media and politics.

Transcript preview

Alex Periscowitz, thank you for doing this. Very nice of you to do this. So here's my perception, here's the overview, so we're in this war, obviously I disapprove, whatever, I've said that many times. Then the president decides we're getting out and the vice president articulates how and why. And I couldn't be more supportive that I'm thrilled by that, thank God. And then all of a sudden there is this just flurry of attacks on the president but mostly on the vice president from people who don't have a alternative plan but basically just calling the vice president some extent the president names. It seemed to me as an outsider less fluent on the internet than you are that this is coordinated. Like what is this? What are we looking at? Well it's a great observation. I believe that there definitely is a coordinated effort for to put pressure on the president. and the administration to continue the conflict in Iran. And I believe that there is potentially even foreign influence involved and you know not just from one country. So I think it's definitely a coordinated effort. You're seeing a lot of these voices that kind of move as a pocket. They talk about a lot of the similar issues. They oftentimes do similar paid media campaigns around other related topics. And there's also evidence of millions of millions of millions of millions. millions and millions of dollars flowing to certain right-wing influencer marketing companies from countries who might benefit from a prolonged conflict. So I believe there's definitely a coordinated effort. Similarly, right after the war was about to end, or I guess the MOU was coming out, a lot of the anti-war voices were also spreading misinformation about the deal. They were pushing a line about how United States. States taxpayers were somehow going to give 300 billion dollars to Iran. And I look at people like Thomas Massey, who's been on this program, he was very quick to share the statement saying that this MOU is terrible because we're going to give 300 billion dollars to Iran, which is not true. It never was true. It's money that can be unlocked over time. Not a single dollar will come from American taxpayers. But people like Massey, were also spreading misinformation. So I think that there's a lot of coordinated misinformation being spread from pro-war side and also some anti-war critics as well. Interesting. So can I just get your take on something before we proceed into the details of what you just alleged? You're alleging things Alex Brusowitz, which seemed true to me but I want to know why you think it. But first to the question of the people criticizing the MOU. Okay, I know plenty of ways to criticize the MOU, but I want to know why you think it. of that criticism I think needs to be viewed in context of what the alternatives the MOU might be. Like okay maybe you don't like the MOU but then then what? Right. Did any of the people in this campaign that you're describing offer like an alternative to the MOU like we continue this war and then what happens? Right. No there's been no alternatives offered. There's just straight criticism. It's keyboard warriors. That's what we deal with. Fortunately, their opinions have very little. impact on the electorate, the populace. You know, we've seen polling from Daily Mail, Fabrizio Lee, McLaughlin, all these different polls that show President Trump's MOU is widely popular with the American people. 67%. Actually? 67%. And so this, the framework of a settlement deal with Iran, the 14 points that have been everywhere. Yes. It's 67%? 67% of Americans who've been poll. The 14. The 14 points that have been everywhere. Yes. 67% of Americans. on that issue are supportive of the Trump Vance agreement. But if you look at social media you think that nobody's in favor of it because of coordinated influence campaigns from unique actors and foreign parties. Interesting. It makes you... I'm not actually surprised because again, you know, they're offering no alternative to the MOU. Right. So if they're... was like some way for the United States to get more. You know, I could, you know, I could see the criticism as being valid. So I'm not surprised by that number, but I, it does make you think maybe there are other issues where our view of it is totally distorted because our view comes from social media. Definitely. And a lot of the press rooms, they get their stories from social media. They get there, the producers, they get what topics they're going to discuss in their shows from social media. because they think that is what people are talking about and some people are talking about it but in the grand scheme of things a very small percentage of people are talking actually talking or caring about these issues and so I think it's very healthy and important for Americans in our country to start pulling back from believing everything that they read on social media and start questioning a lot of the people that they're getting the information from and on all sides of issues a lot of influence and a lot of money from special interest groups from foreign countries that have poured into internet ecosystem and and you know I don't think it's been healthy for our democracy for our country and so you know I've been working actually with Congresswoman on a Paulina Luna and some other friends in government to maybe strengthen some disclosure laws but there's a lot of influence ops that happen on social media and you know I think if we just continue talking about the the war in the Middle East for example there's an information up on the pro-Israel side and there's an information up on the anti-Israel side. I was getting paid to be anti-Israel. I've been very critical of Israel I've never taken a dollar from anybody we have no investors and no debt so I know for myself I've never and I would never take money to give an opinion. So you're not so you're not Tucker Katarls. a lot and I think the people who run it are amazing but I've never taken any money from Qatar and I never would. I think it's interesting to hear you say that there is anti-Israel commentary that's being funded by foreign countries I've never heard that before. And it also might be funded domestically and maybe what I'm not gonna accuse anybody of taking money that's not my position right? But I'd like to. I'm an expert on social media. Yes. I started my company to help conservatives communicate better on social media. Yep. And so I would identify conservatives that I wanted to work with and I would help them grow their social media presence oftentimes using some other people's platforms, you know, amplification or whatever. Some of those members of Congress that I've worked with in the past, Marjorie Taylor Green. Yeah. I started working with Marjorie Taylor Green. Yeah. I started working with Marjorie Taylor Green. By the time she won her election that and entered Congress that January of 2021 she had over 800,000 Twitter followers. So in probably a nine month period we took her from a no name Congresswoman or a no name candidate to the most one of the most followed Republican Congress women in America. And how do you do that? I must admit I'm slightly disappointed with Marjorie's recent pivot. You know, I think that she was slightly She felt slightly burned that people didn't support her ambitions for higher office. She says that's not the case. But she went from being the president's number one defender for six years for as long as I'd known her. She only wanted to run for Congress to get Trump's endorsement, to be Trump's number one fan, number one cheerleader. She loved Trump. She loved Trump. And so I think that she was a little bit slited by the president and the team. not supporting her for either governor or senator or vice president or some other ambitions that she had and I personally also think she got bored of Congress. I think she went in with tremendous excitement. She wanted to go there and make a difference. She wanted to go there and help President Trump, you know, build the wall and deport illegal aliens and you know end foreign aid and do all these things. And I think she got to Washington. She really a lot of those things are, you know, the president built the wall and he stopped a legal alien invasion at her country almost 100% since he's been in office. But a lot of other things that she wanted to do when you get to Congress you realize it's almost impossible and you realize that you're one of 435 people and you see people on Fox News, a congressman on Fox News, they talk a tough game, well I can write this letter, I can do this, I can hold this person accountable. But you realize the congressman doesn't actually have any authority. So I think. So I think, so I think, so I think, so I think understanding of how much power she could actually have and how much change she could actually make. Realized it was a system that was very difficult to change, got burned out and it's now back to being a commentator. Well there's never been a better time to sign up for Dutch pet, that's because we have news in the world of dogs which we follow closely. The return of New World Screw Worm has shelters debating whether they should euthanize kill thousands of cats and dogs. 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Use the code Tucker for 50% off your lab work and 20% off all. supplements. That's Joy and Blokes. dot com slash Tucker. Use the code Tucker. 50% off labs. 20% off supplements. Join blokes. Get your edge back. I think there's probably a lot of, I don't know, not my job to speak for her. I think it's obviously true that she was frustrated as hell by Congress because it's frustrating as hell. I don't think she liked the leadership at all. She said that. While she was there. She loved Trump, there, there's no doubt about that. They fake but substantive policy disagreements that are just real. There's no way around that on the war on Epstein. Those are real things and I think you can make a case for you know everyone's individual perspective but I also think it's fair to say we just disagree. Yeah and they do disagree. Well I think so you asked me how we took Marjorie from 2,800. Well how does the process work? How does the process work so I wanted to explain that to you? Yeah. So with Marjorie for example, she the most viral ad that we did for her that campaign cycle she was standing on our front porch in Georgia right after the Antifa riots broke out in the summer of 2020 and Marjorie you know she was early 40s you know little blonde girl standing on her porch with a gun and she says my message to Antifa terrorists stay the hell out of Northwest Georgia and she loads a gun. might have spent 10 minutes producing the whole thing. That video went bonkers, tens of millions of views. And then this was in the pre-Elon era of Twitter and Twitter banned the video for promoting violence, Facebook banned it. But then Fox, actually, to their credit, they showed the censorship of hat that was happening to Marjorie on the social media platform on the social media platform. so she was on Fox and friends that next morning. She was on late night, she was primetime Fox later that day, she got our accounts back and she gained like 300,000 followers off of one moment. Yeah, I was involved, I remember. And so, and so she was, and then a lot of right-wing accounts started defending her. This is terrible. Go follow Marjorie Taylor Green, go support Marjorie green. And these are all mega people. These are all president Trump supporters. These are all mega people. These are all mega people. And I think. And I think, and I think, and I think that I think that I think that I think that I think that I think that I think that by her pivot and yes you get policy disagreements but I think there's a difference between having policy disagreements than making accusations and she's not the only one these people accusing the president well I mean hold on I mean I love Marjorie so I mean and that's well known I love Marjorie Taylor Green and I think she's a sincere person they're I don't understand every nuance but I but I do think it's a we don't have to like come up with I think you should be doing this and the administration thinks they should be doing that and like that's fair no? Sure I definitely agree I definitely agree that that's fair but then there's the extra there's the extra curriculars there's the and it's not Marjorie I don't actually speak on Marjorie for this but there's a lot of these people who used to be Trump fans and they were up there Trump fans up until nine months ago ten months ago and they use the Epstein thing as the pretext of why they're no longer Trump fans and I think that's incredibly and we have Epstein files. Trump's administration in the first term arrested Jeffrey Epstein. You know, he put him in bars behind bars, he put him in jail. And yes, he died in jail. Do I think it was a suicide? You know, I'm probably with the internet on this one. But but definitely not. But the president arrested him. He took him off the street so he couldn't hurt anymore people. And then he campaigned in 2024 and people. And people said, oh well, Trump campaign on the Epstein he didn't campaign on that he was asked by Lex Friedman interesting character he said well you release the Epstein files Trump said yeah I'd be inclined to do so and then he did it and guys like Thomas Massey like to take the credit for the release of the Epstein files but during four years of Joe Biden the bideen department of justice was sitting on these files how many times did Massey tweet about Epstein zero now a single time for four years of Biden and so a lot of people see you know a lot of And Massey's never liked the president. Like, Trump endorsing against Massey in this election isn't a response to him being critical of Epstein. Trump endorsed against Massey in 2020. Trump's never liked Massey. And, you know, for, he's an intro, he's an acquired taste. Not everybody likes Thomas Massey. Right. But it wasn't a response, he didn't lash out at Massey and endorse this guy against him because of the Epstein files. He's never liked Massey. And so there was no cover up. And I think people who suggest that there was a cover up are not being honest. Could you disagree with the messaging rollout, the media rollout, the former attorney general strategy around it? Absolutely. I wasn't particularly thrilled about the binders. I didn't, nobody know what the hell the binders came from, all right? But the president did not participate in a cover up. In fact, he's the only reason that these documents are out. he's also exonerated by it. There's 3 million documents that have been released. Not a single person can point to, oh, Donald Trump did something wrong. You know, the people who did do something wrong or appear to have done something wrong are guys like Reed Hoffman. Would I like the Department of Justice to go after Reed Hoffman? Yeah, I probably would. You know, how about just call him in for questioning? I would support that, absolutely. I wonder why that hasn't happened. Well, maybe it will. Maybe it will. But I think that will. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think giving control of the government process to a handful of hysterics on social media is bad. I think it was bad for Epstein, with Epstein files. I think it's bad right now for all of the Hawks who are continuing to press the administration to continue the war. I would also say though that the Attorney General at the time Pam Bondi gave an interview on Fox in which she said I have thousands of files on my desk. that show sexual abuse of kids. She said that. That's the attorney general of the United States and I've always liked Pam Bondi. I'm not it's not personal but the attorney general says that and then no one gets indicted for you're like you're the attorney general you're the chief law enforcement officer of the nation what the hell are you talking about? I didn't hear the sexual abuse of kids part but I did hear these documents on my desk. Should she have said thousands. Should she have said that? You know probably not. I want to know what the government is doing. That's my right since I own the freaking government, not Pam Bondi. I'm a citizen. But anyway, I just, where's the follow-up? If you have the evidence, you told us you had the evidence, where are the arrests? Well, it's a great question, you know, and I think that a lot of people are asking the same thing, but the accusation that the president was involved in a nefarious cover-up that's completely ludicrous. I think people like Rita Hoffman should absolutely be brought in for questioning for questioning. and perhaps it will happen. I think Reed Hoffman is one of the worst characters in America, not just for that. He was also a financier of E. Jean Carroll, if you remember her, the woman who accused President Trump of, you know, harassing her in the 80s or 90s. Well, I'm pretty sure, I can't prove it, but I'm pretty sure that he helped suck me into a lawsuit I had nothing to do with him and tried to destroy my life. I've never met the guy, I got nothing to do with him. I was just giving opinions he was just giving opinions he doesn't like so. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get If you want people to trust the government, we need more disclosure, more follow-up. I mean that's true of every administration including this one and like, I don't know. From my perspective it's the war. It's the war that I talked to Trump multiple times about Epstein. My advice to him, which he ignored was this has really nothing to do with you. It's like Reed Hoffman reassure people by like bringing the guilty to justice or at least investigating it in a transparent way. Didn't happen. But I didn't really. It was the war that just absolutely distressed me and I've talked about it wait probably too much already But when Trump You know eight the s you know basically said we're gonna do things we don't want to do because it's in the best interest of the country This MOU. No one wants the MOU, but it's better than the alternative I admired that I said so and I'm immediately see these people who were like Trump's best friends true MAGa people like mark Levin and the rest like they're the true maga You can't get anywhere near MAGA. You don't know what MAGA is. Like, okay, son. All of a sudden they're like, Trump's a big hit or whatever. You know what he mean? Or J.D. Vance is an anti-Semite. That's where, you know, I was like, I thought that was the most interesting thing I've ever seen. Yeah, it was certainly coordinated, absolutely. And so by whom? It's good question. There's people that certainly speculate. And look, I think, I think Mark Levin. I think he's friends with the president and maybe he's friends with the president but Mark Levin was a guy I don't think Trump likes Mark Levin at all Mark Levin was somebody who opposed Trump in 2016 yeah he actually encouraged his audience in 2016 to stay home don't phone the general election he was a desantis supporter in 2024 so he's not like this ultra magga guy and so it's a little frustrating look I've disagreed strongly with many statements that you've made recently and so all these coordinated accounts right they're saying Alex Mark Levin but you don't call out Tucker. Why? To be honest I think that's kind of a fair point. You've criticized the president and I haven't called you out and I haven't called you out for a couple reasons. Call me out on social media because I know you personally, I know you personally, I know you personally, I know you personally, I don't know you personally agree with that. I don't know Mark Levin personally, I have a philosophy in my life. If I don't know you personally agree with that. So you know. So, you know, you know, you know, early, early on, early on, early on, early on, early on, when the war started, there was predictions by some voices including you that striking Iran could lead to World War 3. You know, voices like Ian Carroll, who's also been on the program, predicted that we put ground troops in Iran by now. Those predictions haven't, haven't materialized. And so I think, I think, you know, saying that it would be important to the audience. I think there's a lot of hysterics on both sides of the issue. Early on it was... to eliminate the civilization of Iran. So that would qualify as World War 3. He threatened to put ground troops on the Kargu Island and mainland Iran many, many, many times on true social. I've been reading it for three months. None of that happened. I'm so grateful. I'm not a good, I don't care. I'll just say it didn't happen because it didn't not happen because of pushback of voices like Ian Carroll. And then they come out and they take a victory lap and say, see, you know, you know, you know, prevented this from me. Nobody's listening to the grifters on the pro war side or the anti war side. Well let me just correct the record and say I I'm under no illusions about my power I don't seem to have any power to change any of them unfortunately. I think you have a very powerful voice. No I don't I argued with Trump for a you know ten years against doing this he took other counsel that shows you how much power I have zero. was not able to prevent this and I don't think I had any role in ending it. So I just want you to know like I don't think I had any effect. But I just think that I just think that the hysterics started off as being the anti-war hysterics and maybe they had reason to be you know the president's position on Iran I don't believe has changed. For 30 years you can find statements of him saying Iran should never have a nuclear weapon. In 90 days he delivered on that promise. He struck him. 90 days later, MOU says Iran will not seek nuclear enrichment. He never wanted to do a forever war. He never was going to put boots on the ground. If he has to, I'm sure he will. But I don't think we have to. But his position hasn't changed. He also is against forever wars. He's always been against forever wars. So I think that doing a quick military excursion is different than obviously Iraq and Afghanistan and what the neo-con's fever dream is. So, you know, you know. probably wants to send a million American troops. No doubt about it. And, you know, the president is not about that. And so, I think there was a lot of hysterics who just didn't know, don't, they don't know who the president is and they are acting like he was inconsistent as positions when I don't think he actually was. So lots of reasons to get obsessed with Mars men. Low testosterone is bad in a lot of ways. Kills your vibe. You lose your peak performance in nearly all aspects of life. No one wants that. The key male hormone, but a lot of it gets stored away and remains impossible to get to. This explains why some men feel low energy all the time. Using Mars Men is the answer to unlocking that so you can actually use it. No synthetics, no needles, real ingredients that help optimize energy, focus and strength. Made in the United States tested by a third party built with just eight natural ingredients, Mars Men supports healthy testosterone levels, energy and stamina to a steady sense of drive all day long. I was with 90-day money-back guarantee if you don't like it but you will. For a limited time our listeners get 50% off for life plus free shipping and three free gifts and three free gifts. Please support our show and tell them that we sent you there. Can I ask you so it was a year ago that the president and live in were at some event and live in were at some event and live in some event and live in a and basically puts him in a headlock. And Donald Trump is much large, a big man, Levin is a dwarfish man. So he kind of leans up and pulls him down like that. And the president, well first of all he's the president, okay? Second, he's famously not the guy you put in a headlock, he's not into it. Or off. Yeah. He's just not into it. And Levin does that. And the message of course is like, you know, you're my boy. I control you, right. I control you, right. Right. I was, right. I was, right. I was disgusted by. that happens and so you look at it and you're like okay and then Trump tweets like if you want to get the real truth watch Mark Levin's lowly rated show on Fox weekends and so all of a sudden he just like pivots in one day and start saying things that are true in my view brave I'm cheering Trump when he says this and he's like up we're out this is too much can't deal with it we're gonna run out of oil you're not gonna be able to get gasoline like that's terrible for America we're What caused that change? I believe he felt the mission was accomplished and it goes back to the fact that he is not somebody who wants forever wars. He's not somebody who wants forever conflict. He felt that he was able to deliver on his campaign promise of preventing Iran from ever having a nuclear weapon in a little over 90 days. And we have the Iranians now at the table negotiating a deal with J.D. vans and our team. and I think the president is happy where things were things lay and now he's now people on you know Mark Levin crowd who were the president's biggest cheerleaders are now opposed to what he's doing because they have different they have a different agenda for Iran they have a different vision for how to handle Iran and I think that's wrong but the president's position has been consistent for you can find videos of him in 1987 saying Iran should never have a nuclear weapon And he was given certain intelligence, but how to take it out, and he did, and he eliminated