Love, Hockey, and Healing: Thursday, July 30th, 2026

The Toast

In this episode of The Toast, hosts Jackson and Claudia blend personal anecdotes with cultural commentary, discussing everything from their chaotic shopping trip to Chanel in East Hampton—where Claudia spent $400 on desi

Key takeaways

• Claudia spent $400 at Chanel East Hampton after receiving a luxury bag from Ben as a birthday gift, exchanging it for new items including sunglasses and shoes.

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Speaker 1 (0:00) Today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by Starbucks. At Starbucks, full and part-time baristas can build meaningful careers while getting industry-leading benefits like comprehensive health coverage and up to 18 weeks of paid parental leave without missing a step in their careers. Because at Starbucks, great benefits and opportunities to grow are just the start. Learn more at Starbucks.com slash partners. Jackson, Claude and we've had a show the fast five thing to know. We'll start your day off, swirly, it's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Thursday. It's ladder half. Ladder half energy on the day of the Thursdays. It is like so sympathetic energy in here. Not us both wearing leggings. Okay, cool, chill girls who drink beer. Well, it's raining. I know. This weather's like not the vibe. And as I shared earlier in the week, like, I'm committed to switching it up a little bit just because I'm sick of doing the same thing every day. So, yeah, I did leggings. But then I still like, I, yeah, I should have worn like a casual top. But I just like have an version to casualness lately. Like I have a, what's the opposite of a version? diversion? no, like. A fondness. A warmth and love. I love cash. I'm so casual. That's like the beer drinker in me. always a loa. I can't go down this road. Can we get it? You drink beer. You're not like other girls. I actually get like you guys don't get it. But okay. We're striving to get it. You're not really getting like how chill and cool I am and how much I like sports. But okay. We also are sympathetic today because we drove together. We did. We decided to save the gas, save the energy. What's so funny is I did a Q&A on my Instagram the other day because I'm an influencer. And so many questions where why don't you guys drive together to the toast. I guess I think it's really weird. But we do different things after the show. but also like personally I just learned how to drive I just got my car like these things are still exciting for me even people ask me like why don't you do self driving on your Tesla and it's like I'm not sick of driving yet I actually do understand why people think it's so weird and there are a lot of things we do that like really like freak people out and I'm like well you guys are the freaks not us I actually agree that it is like low-key weird of us but it just means like afterwards like I can do like if I I want to stop and get a coffee or like a breakfast taco. It's freedom. It's freedom. And you know me. Like I hate doing things that I don't want to do. So like if me and Jack are driving home and she like has to stop somewhere, like I don't want to go. No. And this morning I was going to stop and get my breakfast taco and with coffee. And she was like, oh, I was actually thinking I'm driving with you. So I couldn't go. Yeah. So my freedom was limited. Correct. We prioritize freedom here. I don't know if you guys can say the same. But we do. That's the patriotic swirley nature. Just as free. Free as we. will ever be. So how did you feel driving with me? I felt relaxed. You have a nice little heat warmer. I felt good. Like definitely would do it again. Yeah, the cardboard in me obviously loves like the not using gas. Speaking of cardboard, Jack and I had such a fun afternoon yesterday. I've been meaning to go. So for my birthday, Ben got me this really, really beautiful Chanel bag, like King. And I did really like it. But I also wanted to see like, you know, what else they had. I wasn't intent on returning it, but I wanted to go to the store and see if there was anything else that really screamed at me. And so, of course, I knew just this role for the job. My podcaster, influencer slash sales associate. And we went to the Chanel and East Hampton, which was just a fun outing, having like free money to spend. Yeah, that was the best part. It, like, wasn't new money to spend. Like, the money was spent. Of course, we did end up spending, like, a couple hundred dollars. And I had to get a couple things for myself. But, and not Ben, like, being such a generous king. Like, the bag that I picked to swap it out with was significantly less. So I was, like, running around the store, like, looking for things just to meet my credit. They don't give you a refund. You have to exchange. So I got a bag, a new bag, a pair of sunglasses, and a pair of shoes. And I, of course, then ended up going over the credit. I had to spend $400, which killed me. But basically free. Such cute stuff. Such cute stuff. And I got two pairs of sunglasses. Like the amount, I think in order of, like, products I use most in my life, I would say, like, my phone is number one. Sunglasses is number two. It's true. And you know, like, they say it's like bad for your eyes or whatever. I know. I know. And I'm already trying after 4 o'clock. I try not to wear them. I am addicted. Exposure therapy, your irises. I'm addicted to sunglasses and I try not to buy sunglasses that are like too dark now. Like I've been wearing these ray bands that I think are actually really good for me because they're like much lighter. But sunglasses are very important to me and like, you know, they're the purse of the face. So you should invest. Like more so than like jewelry you're not going to wear. And like my problem is I'm actually like very hard on my sunglasses. Oh yeah. I kind of throw them in. I always lose the case. I like the kids play with them. Yeah. Oh my God. We love playing with sunglasses. So like, it's like annoying to spend money. I mean, you know, they say that like designer sunglasses are made in the exact same factory as like Claire's. I just want to say, like I try on sunglasses everywhere I go. You know, the surf shop, the ones that have Z Supply. Everywhere sells Z supply these days. It's like Amazon in real life. I try on the sunglasses, it's not the same. No, I agree. It's not the same. I do think that like the logo makes it more beautiful. No, it just, it's just not. I wish it was. I would buy cheaper sunglasses too. But like sometimes like the, you need the. polarized lens. That's a real thing. Totally. The polarization. A bad bear sunglasses can give you a headache. Yeah. And then they have to be like the right tightness.. I don't like them tight. I don't like when they squeeze my temples. Uh-uh. Yeah, no, it's so personal. So all's that to say. We had a very successful shopping day and due to the conversation yesterday that actually inspired our next blog, which is going down tomorrow with Miss Margo. Sales Associate Foley. Jackie knew better than to ask me to be her subject because like, sorry, I'm not trying on clothes. On camera. Like, pressure to buy. I did that once and it was like at my skinniest. Remember when we went to like Abercrombie at the mall? Yeah. And we were vlogging. And let me tell you, I still had a terrible time. So I hate trying on clothes in stores and I certainly hate trying on clothes. You know what blog? I just remembered that we did. That was such a sleigh. That's like similar to this one was dressing you for St. Barts in my closet. Well, let me just tell you. Like if you're not a Patreon member, you should join and go watch that book. That's like people's favorite episode. When I was staying at Jaggy's house and just decided to go to St. Bart's like I had to pack using her closet and I was so skinny. Like, oh my God, it's actually insane. I had amazing things for it. And I gave her everything. And I was the best dressed woman in St. Bart's, like, hands down. It was probably the happiest I'd ever been. And it was an amazing time and an amazing blog. The vlog is amazing. It's like, it's real peek into like my closet. It's a real taste of her trip. That blog also inspired me because your closet was like very impressive in the sense. Like you had clothes for 10 different women. You had literally extra small up to like postpartum pregnancy. I am 10 different women. And I, every time I lose three pounds, I throw away all my big clothes. I'm like, ew, I don't need her. Sweeper. And every time I get big, I'm like eventually throwing away my small clothes. So it did really inspire me to like, you know, have a closet for a real woman, you know, just be a little less sweeper when it comes to my sizes. Yeah. Because when I lost all the way in on an ozempic, I was like, I'm never going back there so everything can go. Even my expensive stuff. I got rid of everything. Meanwhile, I had a baby and I need all that clothes. Yeah. No, in this season of life through the ups and downs, I need a closet that's, small through extra large. That's got your back. So that was a really fun blog. So tomorrow we are taking Margo shopping. We're going to like set a budget. I'm going to dress her. And like I'm definitely going to sort of like push. Oh, well, I always push but like. I know you're pushing an agenda. I'm pushing an agenda. Yeah. A mature woman. A mature woman. Yeah. Mature woman's agenda. Unfortunately, I did have to agree to like since we're making Margaret do this and take time for her clothes. Right. Because she was like, well, do I have to pay for everything? We can force her to film and then also like spend all this money. Do you have to pay for them? She has a card. She has a card. Let me call it cardboard. And I agree, but we have to be strict with our budget. Yes, so you'll see all the worry down. I'm thinking $500, but I know you're going to say that's not enough. I think, you're right. $500 from you, $500 from me. $1,000. My budget was going to be $1,000. We want to have a good vlog with lots of options. Things are expensive out here. I just want to say I find myself, like, leaning a little too much into my card. Like, the cardboard joke is so funny. And like, it's like, the best thing ever. but like I'm like not I'm really not that cheap like I have like cheap tendencies of course but I bag myself like leaning into it more and becoming like really cardboard just for the sake of the joke like I need to calm down because it's actually like affecting my life now like what let me think just like I told you that thing about like Ben's ad we were going to butterfly world oh yeah me were going to butterfly world like with um Ben's parents which is like there's really cute like little butterfly exhibit and like the tickets are like $20 or whatever and I forget what was happening but I was like well Bruce doesn't need to go and like they're gonna they were gonna make him go and I'm like he was tired or whatever he like wanted to say him I'm like don't make him go we'd buy him ticket they're like like let it's like a $20 ticket like you're gonna be completely fine he can go yeah so I feel like like cardboard has become a self-fulfilling prophecy and I would like to stop it dead in her tracks like I'm really not you're not cardboard no I mean I live an extremely lavish lifestyle like I'm renting a home in the Hamptons to the summer like I need to like remember who the I am. Wow. Yeah. I'm not cardboard. Like you're, you sort of like made me this way. Oh my God. You wore it with such pride cardboard cadets. You started like your own community. I do love like a little, like a cardboard kit. Like a saying you started like Koji's cardboard corner. Yeah, Koji's cardboard corner. Yeah. No, my cardboard cadets. And we are a strong community. So. But I just want to be open and honest with people like. Because it was a joke. I have a couple of Berkins. Like I'm not like. It was a joke that. I'm not Bradley on a budget. It was a joke that like. could have died the day that I said it. No, but it's so good. And it lived on because of you. Yeah. But I feel that I have leaned in. I have cardboarded a little too close to the sun. Okay. Well, tomorrow's going to be really fun. Patreon.com slash the toast. Like we're shopping with Ms. Margo. And you can see like my skills in action. Yeah. No, it is. Even yesterday, like the bag that I ended up taking, you completely chose. You are a very helpful person. Yeah. And I'm very encouraging. It's so funny when I was shopping with my friends. And I was saying how like, whenever we go shopping, like this is my role. I encourage everyone to buy everything. And they're like, and just Claudia do the same. I'm like, no, she tells me a hook fat. Yeah, it's true. Also, like, I hate shopping in person. She tells me everything looks stupid. I always want to leave the store. Unless it's a store that, like, has really cozy chairs for like the husbands and cardboard. Then I'll be like, yeah, try it on, try it on. But I find shopping in person and in store to be so unpleasant that I'm always dying to leave the store. I find it so invigorating. And that's why the no influencer sign, like really, really hurt me. Because as someone who loves shopping, if I walked into a store, it would save like no Jews, you know? Of course. I can't go here either. No. And it is funny. It's like the new Nickelodeon where we have to talk about it once a day. But this store is benefiting so greatly from all the buzz on social media, like the influencer type of culture. The culture that they're hating on, like, is benefiting them so greatly right now. Like the store is packed. I've heard they have so much engagement on social media that they'd never had. So it's like, don't, you hate the player. You hate the game, yet you are the player. funny how that works, isn't it? Funny. I thought of one more thing. Wait, I just wanted to say. Okay. Hold on. What we go back? Oh, do you remember the store? Big Drop? Of course. Everyone knows that saleswoman. Yeah. There was a store in the city. It was like an iconic Upper East Side store. I bet like it was featured on Gossip Girl. Like it was so classic. It was like on this, it was on Third Avenue. It wasn't like that like. It wasn't high end, but it was so classic. Yeah. It was right next to Haru, the sushi place where everyone on the Upper East Side Aid. It was just like a very classic place. And it was like low key expensive, like regular clothes. You know? It didn't need to be so expensive. And they had the most insane salespeople there. woman. One woman. It was a company mentality. Like they, you couldn't walk into the store because people used to joke that used to like stand outside and pretend like they were getting sucked in. Like it was the craziest place. I actually bought a ring there once. Like when I was like 17, I'm like, what am I doing? They had, that's like the worst type of sales associate. It was such a truly like, top toxic workplace. That place was crazy. Yeah. But that strip, if you were like a live. I mean scoop? Scoop. Yeah, like that four block radius was just like the place to be Atlanta Grill. Pinkberry. EJ's. Was that Pinkberry there? There's a pink berry second. No, no. That's not the same strip. Too high. Second. We're on third and it's lower. But it's like Atlantic Grill, Harroo, big drop. EJ's skip. Atlantic Grill. Like those five blocks. That was probably the happiest time of my whole life. Those five blocks. That and the other thing you said before. That was the happiest time, doing the vlog in St. Barts. Okay, that was the happiest time in my life. Sorry, I was just, like, had a happy life. Yeah, like, the more the more than merrier. So many moments. We love happiness. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what we were up to. I majed a lot yesterday. I played with friends, and then I came home and, like, Ben was just ready to go. I've, like, seriously made monsters. Like, I'm just trying to relax him. Ben's like you want to play Maj. And I never thought, like, I would be the type of person turning down mage games. Every day, Ben and I. have to do other stuff too. Ben and I look at each other. We're like, Siamese. You guys are crazy. We sort of like cut out the middlemen. Me. Much like quince. Yes, right. No, you've cut me out. Yeah, because like sometimes you want to mash and sometimes you don't. I know. The thing is, it's like, I love mage more than anyone I made in my whole personality, but it's like there is a time and place for it. And like for you guys, no, it's always the time in place. Except for after dinner. Like that's when I'm not majing. But when you don't want to do something, like you don't do it. But like if you guys were majing. I'm not flexible. And I personally didn't have the itch in that moment, but my whole family is majeing, like, yeah, I'm in a mage. Right. So that's why, like, we can't really go by you anymore. No, and I'm not upset that you guys are. And we, like, love Siamese. That's great. I am just a little bit more discerning about, like, time and place. I don't know. I don't know. But now, like, good luck getting a time with us. I've made genuine monsters. But in a beautiful way. Yeah. This is all I wanted, like, my whole life. Yeah. I always, like, had an easy time getting Ben to play. but I've, like, wanted you and my sisters, like, to play Mahjong. It's a four-person game. You and my sisters as if I'm not. You plus the sisters. I'm not a sister. I've always wanted, like, we grew up at a house of four-girls. The rumors are going to start. It's a four, they already have. It's a four-person game. We have four girls in the house, like, perfect. Yeah. It's my dream. Yeah, no, but now it's, it's the time. It's a reality. Mm-hmm. Except, like, it's just me and Ben. Works for me. When Margo comes, she'll play. Oh, yeah. Miss Margo, I think she's coming today. Word on the street. Word on the street. Oh, and then the other happening of yesterday. Bruno. Bruno's annual. Pancreatitis flare-up has begun. Bruno only gets sick in the Hamptons. Because he, as I've told you guys, he eats so much when we're here. There's two. Guys, Bruno is fucking enormous. Bruno is gaining so much weight. There's two children. Two babies learning to eat. He, like, picks up scraps all day long. And yesterday, like, he was throwing up all day and was sick. He obviously has mild pancreatitis. which he gets every summer because it's like this every summer. Like there's more people in the house. There's more food for him. It's like just when he's getting back to his OG weight, we go to the Hamptons. I know. Like he needs to spend the summer at a fat camp. Farm. Yeah. I know a place. A fat camp for dogs? No, for adults. Oh. I've been to it. For dogs. I think he would love it. Because yeah, he spends like all the year like, you know, trimming down. Getting in shape and he's looking good. He comes out of summer and he just bulks up. And I feel bad. But you know what? Like it makes him so happy until a point. And now he's sick. He overate to the point of like genuine. It was all good and fun until he made it self-sick. Until he's like not feeling well. So yeah. Now Zach is like using this to be like he's not going to sleep in the bed with us anymore. I'm kind of with Zach on that. Like ever again. Ever again. He was like uncontrolled. Oh, I don't know about ever again. He was like uncontroll. No last night he's up in the crate he needed that. And he needed to sleep through the night. Like no co-sleeping for Bruto. But he was like and never. And now he's not going to sleep with us anymore.