“That Is Unforgivable!” Abbey & Peter Tackle Shocking Wedding Drama & Affair Secrets.

The Therapy Crouch

The episode features Abbey, Peter, and Gaz navigating a wide range of personal anecdotes and listener dilemmas. The conversation shifts from

Key takeaways

• Gaz describes a terrifying episode of sleep paralysis where he felt frozen while seeing a ghost-like version of his partner.
• The hosts debate the theory that estrogen in tap water could contribute to physical changes like 'man boobs'.

Main topics

• Sleep paralysis and night terrors
• Wedding attire etiquette

Notable quotes

Save a horse, ride a cowboy.

Conclusion

The episode offers a relatable blend of lighthearted banter and heavy

Transcript preview

Speaker 2 (0:00) Future said, oh, just been invited to the England-Spain game. And I said, I'll come. His face just went... That'd Speaker 4 (0:07) be nice. That'd be lovely. It's your fault that we're two children. Speaker 2 (0:11) It takes two to tango. It's hell yeah, it does. It's Speaker 4 (0:14) lovely, isn't it? Speaker 2 (0:15) Abi, Speaker 4 (0:16) I know you have separation anxiety. How did you cope in Nashville? Speaker 2 (0:20) Save a horse, ride a cowboy. Speaker 4 (0:22) Riding cowboys. Which is going to be pretty creepy. Speaker 4 (0:28) Hello, welcome to the Therapy Crouch. I'm going into it quick because some of the gold is kind of getting lost. So you said potentially Gaz could be on the verge of mantis. LAUGHTER Speaker 2 (0:43) Gaz is just, you know, Gaz, tell us a story. You had sleep paralysis last night. Yeah, Speaker 3 (0:47) last night. Oh my goodness. Long story short, I heard wailing like a banshee in my sleep, horrible screaming. So I turned to my girlfriend in like what felt like slow motion and was trying to say, can you hear that? And then I looked at her face. In real life, she was just fast asleep. But in my mind, her eyes were wide and she was staring at me like a ghost from a film. And I wanted to tell her, you're scaring me, but I couldn't get it out. So I was sort of like, and I kind of tried to move my arm up and everything. just stuck and frozen in this moment and then about an hour later i came to and she was like rubbing me and basically saying like consoling me so uh like Speaker 2 (1:19) a night terror i Speaker 3 (1:20) guess maybe it's more that but like fixed in play i couldn't move so then uh so Speaker 2 (1:25) was she were you screaming at her or was she screaming at you i Speaker 3 (1:29) was screaming at her basically i was trying to i was trying in my head i was saying it loud it's like clear as day i was like oh i'm terrified what's going on And then in the morning she said, oh, you weren't making any sense. You were just like trying to talk, which is weird, right? Like quite muffled. I tried a Speaker 2 (1:42) little whiskey before bed. A Speaker 4 (1:44) few scoops. How did we end up though off air with him having man boobs? Speaker 2 (1:50) No, because Chris said what that is, it's, you know, when you're asleep, it's your... Your body gets flooded with hormones to keep you still in your sleep. I am quoting this from Chris. I don't know this is as factual. Speaker 4 (2:03) Don't take this all as gospel. Speaker 2 (2:06) Never could Chris. Chris is our Speaker 4 (2:08) sound engineer, not our doctor. Speaker 2 (2:12) But it's when your brain hasn't caught up. So your subconscious is awake, but your body isn't yet. Is that right? Yeah, Speaker 4 (2:19) pretty much. Okay. Then he said he's hormonal. So I said I'm Speaker 3 (2:22) hormonal. He said Speaker 2 (2:23) he's got too much estrogen. And I said, you start to sprout. Speaker 3 (2:29) My areola were expanding. Have Speaker 2 (2:32) you been leaking recently? Speaker 3 (2:33) I've Speaker 2 (2:34) been Speaker 3 (2:34) leaking a lot lately. Speaker 2 (2:35) All boobs don't leak, Pete. That's only when you're pregnant. Speaker 4 (2:38) I'm expecting. It's just funny that if you was leaking. If you're Speaker 2 (2:41) starting to get like little pointy boobs, it will be because you're drinking too much tap water because it contains so much oestrogen because obviously from women who are on the pill, they have wheeze and it goes into our water system. And even though the water's cleaned and filtered, whatever... Is this a Speaker 4 (2:58) wives' tale? No, this is true. Speaker 2 (3:01) It's not factual Speaker 4 (3:02) because people wouldn't drink from the tap if it was completely factual. It is factual. I understand this is a potential thing, but it can't be factual because... Sam, is Speaker 2 (3:10) this factual? Is there oestrogen in tap water? Because it definitely is. That's why so many young lads have got man boobs. Speaker 4 (3:16) Well, it's an interesting topic of debate, but I think there must be room for error on that statement. Speaker 3 (3:23) I just love the way you turned to me and went, do you know tap water gives you tits? And I was like, does it? That Speaker 1 (3:27) was a Speaker 3 (3:27) not fair statement. Speaker 1 (3:31) Go on. Is this true? Whether there's debate whether it does actually cause spikes in estrogen or not. There Speaker 3 (3:37) is Speaker 1 (3:37) room for debate. There is notes on reducing it so you can filter your water through normal water filtration and also boil your water. So it's enough for there to be, I guess, advice on whether to do, but there is an argument. Speaker 4 (3:48) What I'm saying is a conversation. It's a topic of debate for the therapy crowd in a safe space. Do you get moves? Off our water. Off our water. Speaker 2 (3:56) Yeah, but you just had asked him if his penis is going back in. Yeah, that was off air. Speaker 4 (4:00) I was getting an off air statement. Making me out Speaker 2 (4:04) to be this horrible person, asking if he's growing boobs. Speaker 4 (4:08) No, okay. This is something that we were discussing kind of off air. Not sure if I was willing to say that. Have Speaker 2 (4:17) I ever had one of those night terrors? I don't think so. Speaker 4 (4:21) Have you never? You snored a lot last night because I was awake all night and you slept well last night. Speaker 2 (4:28) Snored. Do Speaker 4 (4:28) you snore? Speaker 2 (4:29) Not normally. Speaker 4 (4:30) Just when you wrecked? Speaker 2 (4:31) After the three-day bender, yeah. Speaker 4 (4:32) Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm the same. Speaker 2 (4:33) Yeah. Speaker 4 (4:34) Yeah. But no, terror-wise, no. You Speaker 2 (4:36) snore, like, I just don't understand. Like, Pete is like, I would just be having a full, like, when we were lying on the sunbed in Mallorca and I'm having a full-blown conversation, we're lying together. And then I haven't even finished my sentence and he's fully snoring. And he's just less than a half a second ago was responding to me and having a normal conversation. Like how you can go into a snore sleep. Speaker 4 (5:04) It's so deep like that. So quick. Yeah, I suppose it is a skill. My dad had it. It's a skill. I class it as an ability rather than a, you know, you do wake me up. I love snoring. I Speaker 2 (5:19) don't. You do. Just do that. Yeah, that's what I mean. Speaker 4 (5:22) I think that's not what a partner should do. No, I do it and then Speaker 2 (5:25) pretend that I haven't done anything. And he goes, I'm like, what? Speaker 4 (5:30) You want to come here, Pete? I do know. I do know exactly what you're doing. I Speaker 2 (5:34) love that snore sleep, though. That's what I mean. It's perfect for me because I'm recharging there. Speaker 3 (5:40) You know, Speaker 4 (5:40) that's like, and to get kicked in that manner is not acceptable. Speaker 3 (5:46) Could you sleep on the team bus when you was playing or would you get pelters? Would you get pranked? Speaker 4 (5:51) Yeah, I mean, listen, you know, we moved back down to kind of London when I was playing towards the end of Stoke. Kind Speaker 2 (5:56) of London. And Speaker 4 (5:57) when I was kind of, when I was coming back from, I forget the train, I had millions of pictures of me fully asleep on the train, gone. someone would just