BONUS: The Wisdom of Connection with Dr. Zach Bush

The Telepathy Tapes

In this bonus episode of The Telepathy Tapes, hosts Betsy Hicks-Russ and Libby Ingram interview Dr. Zach Bush about the profound interconnectedn

Key takeaways

• Dr. Zach Bush defines 'biosis' as the essential interconnected relationships that precede and make biology possible.
• The 'antibiotic era' refers to a human mindset of using force and chemicals to eliminate perceived threats, which inadvertently destroys beneficial ecosystems like the microbiome.

Main topics

• Biosis and biological interconnectedness
• Autism as sensory perception of dissonance

Notable quotes

Life only occurs through relationships.

Conclusion

The episode serves as a call to relinquish control and re-embrace our

Transcript preview

Speaker 4 (0:00) Hey everyone, it's Kai. Mark your calendars for October 7th, because Season 3 of the Telepathy Tapes, The Reincarnation Records, is coming. Hey everyone, welcome back to the Talk Trax. This episode is a bonus episode from our companion series entitled Now What?, hosted by the mothers of non-speakers, Betsy Hicks-Russ and Libby Ingram. Today's episode will feature an interview they did with Zach Bush. The Companion Series is a supportive, practical conversation space for families, parents, teachers, and anyone else interested in navigating how to help non-speakers after listening to the Telepathy Tapes. Episodes are released every other week on the Telepathy Tapes YouTube channel and the Telepathy Tapes Now What podcast feed. Their show is so insightful, so grounding, and I highly encourage you to check it out. And to give you a little taste today, here's their episode with Zach Bush. My 33-year-old son Speaker 5 (0:50) Joe is autistic and non-speaking since Joe was little. he's always been drawn to the earth he would sit in the grass beneath his familiar trees running the blades through his hands completely content to just be there today nearly every day takes us to the ocean a lake or a river and joe sits on the edge of the water with his hands in the soil picking through the pebbles rubbing them and tossing them aside and while i enjoy the calm i realize i'm not actually participating in it my mind wanders in a million places worrying about the future or the past but joe inspires me to be more in tune and connected with the world around me And that's what I want to talk to our guest about today, this kind of lost connection. It feels like so many of us feel misaligned with the present moment and our ability to tap into the ecosystem all around us. There are few people who understand this more deeply than our guest today, Dr. Zach Bush. Zach is a triple board certified physician and a leading educator. who's modeling how to explore the profound relationship between human health and our planet. I am honored to have this conversation with one of my heroes. So please say hello to my beautiful co-host Libby and Zach. Welcome to our show. Speaker 2 (2:12) Libby and Betsy, it's such an honor to be with you and this audience. We're here together in an incredible human moment. I'm so honored to be part of that and just look forward to seeing what is co-created here. Speaker 5 (2:23) Zach, I want to start by asking you about relationships. Now, you've said before that relationships are the architecture of life, and we really can't do life in isolation. Can you expand on this and talk about what role biology plays in our need for relationship and discuss how this is something we have completely forgotten as a species? Speaker 2 (2:46) Yeah, the concept is actually memorialized in a single word that is called biosis. Biosis is what precedes biology, which would be the study of biosis. And so biology, the study of life systems, is based on the understandings of biosis. If you look up in a dictionary the word biosis, you're going to find it relates to the interconnected relationships that... make life possible. And so it's not life made better by relationship. It's not more life because there's more. It's life only occurs through relationships. And that's really the fundamentals of where we have to get back to as a human species. Because up until now, in this last epoch that we've lived through, there was a belief that everything existed because it managed to be in opposition with enough force to stay safe. or to stay protected against everything else. And so our current human mindset is one of opposition. This drives all the way to the other definition that we would focus on here is Biosis I, nature is the other. And if you look up the Oxford English Dictionary, its third definition of nature is everything in the firmament of the earth, the minerals, the plants, the animals, as opposed to humans or anything humans have made. And so we did not only write ourselves out of nature in its definition, we actually wrote ourselves in opposition to nature in its definition. And so when you come to understand both of those, the reality of biosis, life only happens through the interconnected relationships that make it possible. And nature is everything except humans or anything human is made. Speaker 5 (4:38) Interesting. So can you explain how this informs your theory about the experience of an individual with autism? Speaker 2 (4:45) an autistic child is sensing the cognitive dissonance that exists between reality which is biosis and an artificial reality of a human humanity and everything that's created in abstraction Speaker 2 (5:00) abstraction is a description of any finite system that's lost relationship to its context. Abstraction is literally an artificial reality. An autistic child is simply one that cannot tolerate the dissonance between biosis and a nature that believes itself to be in opposition to humanity or humanity that believes itself to be in opposition to nature. And so this is, I think, where we find exactly your realization of this is my greatest teacher. This child who's now 33 years old is your greatest teacher because it is the living being that sits next to you in a state of unconditional love that cannot filter out the reality of a biotic reaction system. This biosis that's driving life is what he is feeling. They feel the pain. They feel the loneliness. They feel the heartbreak. It's not their own. They literally feel that of everyone else. Speaker 6 (6:03) That's so well said. So true. So Speaker 5 (6:07) let's talk about this kind of symbiotic relationship because I'm interested in this because I remember learning about microbiota early on where, you know, you're killing out, you take an antibiotic, for example, and you're killing out all of the bacteria, but you're clearing out the bad with the good and that symbiotically they should be working together. Like we have good pathogens, we have bad pathogens, we have viruses, we have everything. And they work symbiotically. Not Speaker 6 (6:38) to say antibiotics are bad. They've been revolutionary for keeping humans alive Speaker 5 (6:42) and they're an incredible medical intervention. But just using that as a symbol of how we try to control the world around us or eliminate any risk of harm, we can unintentionally rid ourselves of things that are good for us. and therefore actually creating more harm. Absolutely. Speaker 2 (7:03) Yeah, I think that that's, you know, this function of the word antibiotic. The book that I just published is called Biological Elegance, and it has a subtitle of Unwitting the Devil. And it is a follow-up to Napoleon Hill's book 88 years ago that was called Outwitting the Devil. And what he discovered in that book, which was devised as a conversation with the devil. was that the devil that would be described or imagined by humans was actually the human mind in abstraction. And so that was, you know, 1940s. And he realized, oh my God, we are the devil. As soon as we disconnect from the infinite beauty of the reality that we live within, we become hell. The book goes through 33 chapters exploring this antibiotic. experience that we have just lived through in our last epoch. And this was not just antibiotics from our doctors. The majority of it was antibiotic chemicals and herbicides and pesticides that we grew our food in, in justifying its use to kill the microbiome of the soil and of the air, thinking that that was against the plants that we would eat. So we sterilized farm fields in the same way we sterilized ICUs, only to find out that life diminished in both places. And for that, we... Speaker 2 (8:28) learned more fear of nature. We felt more attacked from bacteria that were bad for us in the ICUs or weeds that were bad for our farms in the area. So we started to build fences and we started to build, you know, chemical fences and we started to build all of these structures of blocking the relationships that make life possible. So what you're feeling when you use the word antibiotic, it's so perfect because the word contains the truth. It is antibiosis. It is antibiotic. And so that antibiotic is against the relationships that make life possible. Speaker 5 (9:02) I think this is a good time to transition into food a little bit. I'm very grateful that I learned very early on when he was only about three years old about starting to eliminate certain foods. And so he's grown up with a very clean diet. I take that back. He was. He was on autism diets, you know, the old gluten casein free. And that was really, you can give him Panda Puffs, whatever. Just keep him gluten free. That's all that matters. And then, of course, the toxicity started to build and it became bigger and bigger. And when I think about like what they're showing us, because Joe is very fine tuned to his diet. So he knows the second something affects him. For years, every time I'd give him anything with avocado oil. he would massively melt down. And I was like part of the whole thing. Well, avocado oil is great. Use avocado oil. Now we're finding there's actually no avocados in this avocado oil. It's just one more processed oil. And he was telling me this years ago. So I'm just really curious about how you feel that they are so in tuned. I mean, I'm assuming they're feeling it viscerally. But is it more of a disconnect from the food, not having a natural basis to it? Or is it generally like changing their biology that are making them feel miserable? Speaker 2 (10:29) Super important question. Speaker 5 (10:31) I Speaker 2 (10:33) think that one of the gifts of the telepathy tapes is it revealed, you know, this extraordinary intelligence and non-local communication capacity of autistic children. Speaker 2 (10:47) with my interview during that second season of the program. And now I'm hopeful that we can advance this to realizing that all humans are telepathic. we've just been trained out of it. And so the difference between your son and you is not that he has some ability to feel viscerally that you don't. It's that you've installed the trained filters between that capacity and the sensations that your body is every day having. And so you and your son have the same capacity to sense before the food is put in your mouth as to whether it's coherent with your field or not. The child will know that far before it's put on the plate. They will feel it when it enters the home. They will feel it when it's in his mother's hands. They'll feel it in the kitchen. They'll feel it sitting in the refrigerator. They can feel the dissonance and so can you. You feel it when you are buying products off the shelf that you know are not good for you. And