‘Slow Horses’ Season 6, Episode 2: Recap. Plus, Our Top 10 Shows of the Century!

The Prestige TV Podcast

The hosts recap the second episode of Slow Horses Season 6, focusing on character dynamics and political tension involving Diana Taverner an

Key takeaways

The return of Olivia Cooke as Sid is highlighted as a major moment for Slow Horses fans.
The hosts analyze the political vulnerability of Diana Taverner due to suspicious media funding linked to Peter Judd.

Main topics

Slow Horses Season 6 Recap
Top TV Shows of the Century

Notable quotes

Make America daddy issues again.

Conclusion

A deep dive into both current spy drama developments and the broader l

Transcript preview

Speaker 2 (0:00) Welcome back to the Prestige TV podcast feed. I'm Joanna Robinson. I'm Speaker 1 (0:22) Rob Mahoney. We're Speaker 2 (0:22) here with Slow Horses Series 6, Episode 2, Daddy Issues. Speaker 1 (0:27) That's the one. Speaker 2 (0:28) That's the one we're talking about today. That's Speaker 1 (0:29) always the one on Slow Horses. Daddy Speaker 2 (0:31) Issues. At Speaker 1 (0:32) least post-Season 4, or Series 4. Speaker 2 (0:34) Is River Cartwright like our biggest Daddy Issue guy currently on television? Speaker 1 (0:39) I like to think that most modern TV is an exercising and daddy issues of some kind. Occasionally you'll get mommy issues in there. I Speaker 2 (0:45) love mommy. It's been a real summer of mommy issues, honestly. Representation Speaker 1 (0:49) matters, but daddy issues are back. We're back. Stronger than ever. Speaker 2 (0:52) Okay. Make America daddy issues again. Here we are. Except we're in the UK. Quick corrections. What are we doing today? We're going to talk about this episode of television. We are. That's something we do on this show. We have a couple special segments because the New York Times is doing their top 100 TV shows of the century so far list. They're only up through what, like 61 right now has been released, I think. I believe so. So the full list is not out yet. We have done our own top 10s. We have agonized over it. Speaker 1 (1:26) Excruciatingly. Speaker 2 (1:27) Really bad. Whose idea was this? It was mine. And later on in the episode, we're going to try to guess each other's top 10 is sort of the idea of what we're doing here. I'm Speaker 1 (1:35) very excited. Yeah. I'm becoming increasingly emboldened by my ability to guess at least a good chunk of your top 10. Yeah. I'm not going to lie. The exercise is so hard. Some of them are mystifying to me. Speaker 2 (1:46) And then at the very, very end, because spoilers for this episode of Slow Horses, I guess, for this season, even though we Speaker 1 (1:54) already mentioned it. I Speaker 2 (1:54) think it's fair. We can talk Speaker 1 (1:55) about literally this episode. Speaker 2 (1:58) A return of one of our favorite characters. I'm talking about Roddy Ho's condom drawer is back on the show. But also. Also. Olivia Cooke is here. The one and only. Sid Speaker 1 (2:10) is Speaker 2 (2:10) here. So at the very, very end, just because it's sort of a section rife with spoilers for all of television, we thought we would celebrate some of the great returns of characters to TV shows after a time. And there are Speaker 1 (2:21) a great many. Yeah. Speaker 2 (2:22) There was a real air like going through it. I was like, oh, this is a real thing. for a while. I expected to find like a broader swath of it. Very much. But Speaker 1 (2:30) I Speaker 2 (2:30) feel like there was really a constant, you know, because you have to have a show where there are a bunch of seasons. Yeah. So that a return feels sort of significant. And a big Speaker 1 (2:37) enough ensemble where the show will continue without them. So it is kind of a delicate balance, but a lot of shows were trying to pull off this kind of thing. Yeah. Few of them, though, delighted me as much as seeing Olivia Cooke, even for this brief glance we get at the end of this episode. In Speaker 2 (2:52) terms of like returning lines. Yeah. How did this one hit for you? What Speaker 1 (2:57) else was she going to say? I Speaker 2 (2:58) guess. Speaker 1 (2:58) Now, why is she at River's grandfather's house? You know, I guess we're going to find out. This is, you know, not to get too deep into it already. My only real complaint about this episode, had a perfectly nice time. I'm just feeling a little impatient and I'm ready to get the gang together. And they're, you know, they're making us wait at least one more episode, which is fair play, but I'm eager to see where we're going. You Speaker 2 (3:21) want everyone together? Speaker 1 (3:23) Well, you already know I wanted Louisa back last series, you know, six full episodes ago, dipping into the last series. Speaker 2 (3:31) Louisa mentioned, but not with the gang. Do you need everyone back together or you just need like... okay, Sid's here, get Luis on the screen, then we're cooking with gas. I Speaker 1 (3:40) think we're mostly there. I mean, the list at that point of alive, slow horses that we know about is not that long. Speaker 2 (3:47) All right. Email. How can folks reach out to us for this particular show? Rob Mahoney. Speaker 1 (3:53) Thank you for asking, Joe. You're welcome. They can always email us at PrestigeTV at Spotify.com. That's evergreen. But for this show, Slow Horses, arse-time-the-pope at gmail.com. Is it our most intelligible email address? Not quite. Does it make me laugh? It still does. I Speaker 2 (4:08) think it's one of the first ones that was your idea, which means it's special to me. No, it's special. Speaker 1 (4:13) That's why it doesn't work. It's Speaker 2 (4:15) sentimental. Quick corrections department from the comments in the email section. My apologies to all of Ireland for claiming that actor Daryl McCormick. whose name is Daryl McCormick, was, quote, very, very British. Yeah, Speaker 1 (4:31) we forgive you. Speaker 2 (4:31) Oh, you as representing Ireland? Absolutely. You Speaker 1 (4:34) didn't stop Speaker 2 (4:34) me last week when I said it. Speaker 1 (4:36) Look, there are times on this show where I want to stop you, and I throw myself in front of the train that is this recording to say, like, no, no, no. You don't know who the hell Daryl Speaker 2 (4:44) McCormick is. You had no clue. In Speaker 1 (4:46) this case, you know, you just got to let it be. Speaker 2 (4:48) Our apologies also to Agent Singh, who's now second desk, who has been here since day one. And we were like, who's this guy? He's new. He's not. He's been here the whole time. So congratulations to him on his promotion. He was one of the myriads of people texting Diana Tavenner after her calamitous press appearance. Speaker 1 (5:08) Not great. Speaker 2 (5:09) And last but not least, on the corrections department potential, we got a couple emails and comments about this. It seems like... We were asking, we were talking about how Jackson Lamb has transitioned from Asian noodles into the Italian noodle family. And a bunch of people pointed out that it looks like the place that he would go to for his noodles is either out of business or something else is going on. I Speaker 1 (5:33) think it Speaker 2 (5:33) was Closer Renovations or Speaker 1 (5:34) something. Speaker 2 (5:34) Closer Renovations, yeah. Rest Speaker 1 (5:37) assured, in series seven. Speaker 2 (5:38) Hopefully. The Speaker 1 (5:39) Chinese restaurant will return. Speaker 2 (5:41) But someone was, one of our listeners was asking, and I guess I did not put this particular email in here, but just sort of like, because that's closed for renovations. Oh, here it is. From Minja wrote in and say, if you go back to the scene of Lam leaving the office, you can see New Empire. The spot downstairs is closed for refurbishment. That plus a random real estate agent coming by to look at their office. Is the whole building going to be, quote, gentrified? And will they all be evicted? Who's behind it? So is it, is the new. shop being closed for refurbishment or whatever actually part of the plot. Oh, Speaker 1 (6:10) yeah. The Speaker 2 (6:10) larger plot. Speaker 1 (6:11) The pasta is not just a minor incident. Speaker 2 (6:14) It's all connected. No, Papa Speaker 1 (6:16) Deli never is. Yeah. No accidents Speaker 2 (6:18) in the noodle family. All right. Our listener Chris, we were asking people to sort of Or I was asking people to pose us sort of anglophile questions. Ask us questions to sort of test our level of knowledge or familiarity with English culture. What do we have? I'll just say, our listener Chris said, a good anglophile quiz for you guys would be the quote, life in UK test mandatory for everyone who wants to be naturalized as a British citizen. A lot of it is basically a pub quiz. Chris, I looked into this quiz. It's not a pub quiz in the fun way a pub quiz is. It's like. civics in the way that like, I don't think I would pass the US version of this test. I'm not passing the UK version of the test. It's like asking me particulars about parliament. And I'm like, I don't know. Yeah. Speaker 1 (7:04) So a pub quiz, if you're locked in on British politics. Yeah. Speaker 2 (7:07) You know, the, the, the politic heads of, of the UK might enjoy this, but for me, it's not quite what I'm looking for. I'm more of a culture person. You are a culture Speaker 1 (7:16) person. I have to say, even our, our passing glances through and sometimes deep dives into British TV. I haven't spent a lot of time with British political TV. House Speaker 2 (7:24) of Cards. I guess. I'm Speaker 1 (7:25) sick Speaker 2 (7:25) of it. Speaker 1 (7:26) But I would venture to say that having gone into Borgen, I might be more equipped to talk about Danish politics than I am British politics. Borgen Speaker 2 (7:35) is so good. Speaker 1 (7:35) Borgen, phenomenal show. Speaker 2 (7:37) Borgen showing up on a lot of people's top 10 lists in the New York Times piece. I was like, hell yeah. You know who knows game? Speaker 1 (7:44) It's ball knower stuff. That said, like... David Benioff knows game. Well, sure. Yeah. Nikolai Kosterwaldo, I mean, Speaker 2 (7:50) expected, but Speaker 1 (7:52) yes. Speaker 2 (7:52) Nikolai Kosterwaldo had Borgen on his list, and so did David Benioff, and I'm like, Nikolai Kosterwaldo definitely showed David Benioff Borgen, and then they cast actors out of Borgen for Game of Thrones. As one does. Not well, but you know. Our listener Neil said, a good test of Britophilia. saying let's not forget we have Welsh and Scottish low horses, so not just anglophilia, but rhodophilia, is whether you think a plate piled high with fried bacon, fried sausages, fried black pudding, fried eggs, fried tomatoes, fried mushrooms, fried bread, and baked beans represents a wonderful and healthy start to the day or a cardiac event waiting to happen. Whether baked beans deserve a place on the breakfast plate is a whole separate and hotly debated issue. I didn't know that, that a fry-up, that the beans were optional on a fry-up. I thought it was like... a core part of the whole thing. That Speaker 1 (8:38) feels like we may be slowly dragging the empire into modernity, you know? Like, it's been a difficult fight. Speaker 2 (8:44) You gotta have the tin beans. Do Speaker 1 (8:45) you? I think so. So you're pro-breakfast beans? Speaker 2 (8:49) Yes. I'm pro-beans at every meal. Speaker 1 (8:52) An excellent Speaker 2 (8:53) source of fiber. Speaker 1 (8:54) We're already very well covered on all of our bases as far as English breakfast goes. Speaker 2 (8:58) How do you feel about a full English, the fry-up? Speaker 1 (9:01) A little mixed bag for me, personally. I Speaker 2 (9:03) think it's like... Have it once a year. Speaker 1 (9:08) It's an experiential thing for you. Speaker 2 (9:10) I feel like, and then go for a very long and vigorous walk to work it through your system. But like every day, absolutely. I could not handle the full English. Speaker 1 (9:22) I don't think anyone should. It's overwhelming. But like, I feel like breakfast is one of these things that. Speaker 2 (9:26) Beans on toast though. Beans on toast. Speaker 1 (9:28) Fine, I guess. I don't know. The black pudding, there's just too many unnecessary elements here. It's Speaker 2 (9:35) tough. It's tough. To go back to our listener, Chris of UK, Life of the UK Test fame. He was weighing in on Kyle Seller's British accent, which I was flagging, which I think. comes up again in this episode for me a little bit. Let's see, I wrote down the moment. It's when they're in the, like, whatever the UK version of Home Depot is. It doesn't matter what we like. It was a very, like, very odd delivery. I love Kyle. I'm so happy he's here. But Chris pointed out that he agreed that it was slightly odd. And he said, I thought he was just going with his natural American accent at first. He has historically been fine with British accent, though. Have you seen the Netflix show Bodies, where he plays a late 19th century London detective alongside Stephen Graham? I did see that show. He has a better accent than the show. So again, I wonder if it's like these folks aren't actually from the UK, so the accent is like intentionally wonky. Speaker 1 (10:23) This is one of my favorite things about watching any show, but especially watching any show with you, Joe, is the moment at which we stumble into, is this accent dodgy on purpose? It's exciting. I mean, it's adjacent to, is this wig dodgy on purpose? Clearly blood relatives have a lot in common. Maybe we'll come up on this show. I don't know what's going on with Jane's wig in particular. That seems it's a lot, but I'm very excited to see more of these two characters, especially as they unfurl the more competent, slightly competent, we should say, of Slow Horses, members of their kill list. Speaker 2 (10:56) Oh, okay. Moira. I mean, Moira. Speaker 1 (11:00) Come on, Moira. Speaker 2 (11:01) Horrible. Tough. But I don't know if the, like, if the... gas inspectors or whatever their guise is, if they're showing up to your front door, are you going to let them in? Speaker 1 (11:12) No. Speaker 2 (11:13) No? No. They show up with reflective vests and they're like, we heard there was a gas leak? I'm Speaker 1 (11:18) not letting just some rando with a reflective vest show up. Speaker 2 (11:21) Here's the real flag for Moira. They were too hot for this job. Don't Speaker 1 (11:25) you Speaker 2 (11:25) think? Speaker 1 (11:26) I mean, look, this is a TV problem in general, though. Yeah. Speaker 2 (11:29) Jim and Jane are like a little too hot for this role. Speaker 1 (11:32) A little too hot to be coupled up on a little field trip to inspect your gas? Yeah, Speaker 2 (11:36) probably not. All right. Rapid fire through the rest of the emails. Sam wrote in to make sure that we had seen Roddy Ho himself, Chris Chung, on Australian Idol, a clip that was circulating. Our producer Kai sent it to us as well. It's been out there this week. How did you feel seeing this clip? Speaker 1 (11:51) Alarmed. Alarmed? I don't know. Look, we've... If you Speaker 2 (11:56) haven't seen it, folks, you've got to check it out. Please, Speaker 1 (11:58) please do dig it up. I think we've seen enough of actors of every ilk proving that they can be extraordinary singers. I just, it's the particular register that I wasn't anticipating. And I mean, Chris Chunk's got it. He Speaker 2 (12:09) is. Speaker 1 (12:10) Dialed in. Speaker 2 (12:11) Last two emails are sort of about some classic duos that we didn't mention. But I would argue that neither of these duos are assassins. Thomas wrote in about Jasper and Horace from 101 Dalmatians. Speaker 1 (12:24) Yeah. They're Speaker 2 (12:25) henchmen. And duo henchmen are great and Speaker 1 (12:29) essential. Speaker 2 (12:29) That's a whole different tradition, yeah. But it's not the same as assassins. No. But I do love a hench. And two henches, better than one. And Speaker 1 (12:35) famously, you love killing puppies. I Speaker 2 (12:38) do love Jasper and Horace. They're pretty great. But no, I would not kill a puppy for any reason whatsoever. And then Constantine wrote in to say, I was mildly surprised you didn't mention Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead. especially given the leads are played by Tim Roth and Mr. Gary Oldman. It's an incredible play, incredible film. We lost Tom Stopper quite recently, so if you've never seen Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead, you probably should. But yeah, they're not assassins. No. They're... Also kind of Speaker 1 (13:06) hench. Speaker 2 (13:07) Honey... Traps? Friendship honey traps for Hamlet, I suppose. It's true. But yeah, I mean, a great Gary Oldman Speaker 1 (13:14) performance and the wonderful Tim Roth. Speaker 2 (13:16) Okay, those are all our emails that I wanted to mention. Anything else you want to talk about more broadly before we get into sort of like scene by scene? Okay, let's get into it. We open with Harkness looking at a fox. And we had talked about how last week's episode opened with like some roadkill and you were sort of wondering if it was a fox or a dog or what it was. So do you think there's some sort of like Fleabag-esque fox motif for this season? What do you think? Speaker 1 (13:42) This fox, I think was, I think was an actual fox. Speaker 2 (13:46) Yes. As Speaker 1 (13:47) opposed to the Fleabag fox, which is famously not good CGI. Speaker 2 (13:51) Oh, sure. Yes. So Speaker 1 (13:52) I was, you know, I'm down for a fox actor. Like I want them to punch their... British SAG cards. Actually, are they members of SAG? I don't know how British acting unions work. Speaker 2 (14:02) I'm sure it's like the BAG, British Actors Guild. Speaker 1 (14:06) Gotta be. Get the BAG box. Yeah, get the Speaker 2 (14:08) BAG box. Speaker 1 (14:09) I would love if this is a little runner of some kind. I mean, clearly must be if we're nodding at this. It was so intentional in episode one. Right. And here, it's just such a lingering shot of this fox kind of rooting around the trash and then taking itself down the street. Speaker 2 (14:24) Foxes in folklore are usually tricksters. Are there omens of a kind? Sure. I don't know what we're supposed to think of here. But yeah, we're on Foxwatch, essentially. Speaker 1 (14:39) Always and forever, but especially on Slow Horses. Speaker 2 (14:43) Not Foxwatch watching Fox, the TV channel, though. Would we say that Damien's TV channel is Fox coded in a way? I don't Speaker 1 (14:52) think so. Speaker 2 (14:53) Slightly right leaning, forceful opinions. Speaker 1 (14:56) Is that not the Prestige TV podcast? Speaker 2 (14:58) OK, really slightly right leaning. Is that us? I mean, Speaker 1 (15:01) look, you you've kind of outed yourself as a libertarian, I feel like over time, you know, you're just living off the grid. Not my reputation. You're Speaker 2 (15:09) all Speaker 1 (15:09) about. Rugged individualism. We've really clearly established that. You don't Speaker 2 (15:12) think it's Fox News code? I mean, the UK version of Fox News. I think it's a little Speaker 1 (15:16) too new media. Speaker 2 (15:17) How so? Speaker 1 (15:18) Like, at least the way that this character is talked about and the network that he owns is a little less like Fox entrenched family kind of like thing that has been running for decades and decades. Yeah, maybe news. But even then, I guess it's the question is, how much are we supposed to take the slightly right leaning from Peter Judd? as accurate representation. Speaker 2 (15:38) I think, I mean, the reason I was thinking Fox News is because they are, I agree with you, it's new media. Yeah. Speaker 1 (15:46) But Speaker 2 (15:46) they're so glossy, you know, and they're so polished and they're so stupid. The way that the young woman, beautiful young woman who was escorting Diana Tavenner says it's quite a coop for the news network. Is Speaker 1 (15:59) it not quite a coop? Not Speaker 2 (16:00) a coop. But the woman who's interviewing her knows how to do her job. Yeah. You know, like. traps her, pins her down. You tell Speaker 1 (16:09) me who's acting dumb in that building. You know, Diana Tavern, we're going to get into it, but not her finest episode or finest moment. Speaker 2 (16:16) Offered the chance to preview the questions to media train herself. Yes. The hubris. It's hubris more than idiocy. Let's Speaker 1 (16:26) just do this right now. I'm nominating this, weirdly enough, for worst spy craft. Speaker 2 (16:30) I think that's a fair shout, honestly. If Speaker 1 (16:33) you are... in the business of intelligence and counterintelligence, and you refuse to avail yourself of all of the questions in advance, which she had the ability to do, to do an interview, which you've acknowledged you have very little experience doing because you refuse to do them. I just think you're setting yourself up to be manipulated. And so frankly, her agreeing to do the interview in the first place is allowing herself to be a pawn of Peter Judd in a way that is not good spycraft. And then doing the interview this poorly, even worse. Catastrophe. Speaker 2 (17:02) Here's where we're slightly bumping up against the format of this season. Because I think this season is taking place like over one day or a day and a half. Like I think we are just, because this is like same day or the next day after the funeral. Seems Speaker 1 (17:19) like. Speaker 2 (17:19) Yeah. And we're just going from here. Gotcha. And so like because. Not that any Slow Horses season takes over a long period of time, but I think the accelerated timeline means that Diana went to lunch and then did that interview that afternoon. And I feel like at the very least, Diana would set that interview for later in the week and give herself some time to figure out a way out of it. You know what I mean? But like, the point is Diana feels like she has her back against the wall. And has no other choice. But I'd like to believe that Diana is smart enough to say, okay, they've pinned me here. They've got me dead to rights here. How do I work my way out of it? And surely she will before the season is over, I have to hope and believe. She must. Speaker 1 (18:07) Unless you Speaker 2 (18:07) think she's like a one season and done first desk. Oh, that'd be brutal for her. I Speaker 1 (18:11) could Speaker 2 (18:11) see that happening, though. It would Speaker 1 (18:13) be fitting the themes of the show. Speaker 2 (18:14) Yeah. I Speaker 1 (18:15) mean, well, let's take both parts of that. Because I both understand. for Taverner as a character, this is the only thing she has ever wanted. She gets it for five minutes and she starts feeling squeezed. And so doing something rash and a little bit defensive to try to keep her job and reputation, that feels true. I guess where I'm trying to understand and what I'm bumping on is like, is what Peter Judd has on Taverner that damning? The idea that like, so to wind it back, Peter Judd was being funded by a foreign government or... foreign government operator of some kind. He Speaker 2 (18:49) was doing like basically freelance work for bad actors. For bad actors. For like terrorists and all sorts of shit. And so Speaker 1 (18:55) MI5 confiscates the funds that he was supposedly paid. Speaker 2 (18:59) Yeah. But Speaker 1 (18:59) there's a little bait and switch where instead of pulling from this piggy bank, we're going to pull from this piggy bank. Yeah. Which is now media funded instead. Speaker 2 (19:07) Right. Speaker 1 (19:07) Is that such a damning piece of information that he pulled from this pile instead of that pile that it would like ruin Diana Taverner's career? Speaker 2 (19:13) Well, I think it depends where Damien's money comes from, which we don't know. Yes. Right. And then, you know, if he's like a Zuckerberg guy, that's one thing. But if it's like this is shadowy money from somewhere else. Oh, for sure. And that's another thing. But it's not as if Speaker 1 (19:28) she knowingly took money from him. Speaker 2 (19:30) Well, can she explain that? And I think especially in this interview. where the specter of a first desk taking money from a foreign interest is sort of dangled over her to make her feel even more vulnerable. I think they have her, but only because she hasn't had time to process and figure out how to move from here. It's a great point. And that's sort of part of where we are in the format of this season. Yes. Okay, let's go back to Harkness, looking at the fox. goes in and kills a dog who stole the files for them, right? So basically Damien with his shadowy new media money. Speaker 1 (20:10) And we Speaker 2 (20:11) should say, Damien, new media guy, does the like classic hot fuzz standing in front of a portrait of himself always works for me. It's Speaker 1 (20:20) a Speaker 2 (20:20) great Speaker 1 (20:20) move. Speaker 2 (20:21) If you're Timothy Dalton or anyone else, it always works for me. More so Speaker 1 (20:24) if you're Timothy Dalton, but that's just a Timothy Dalton thing. The mustache really helps, honestly. Speaker 2 (20:27) But he does that. He also does like full Bond villain boxing. Speaker 1 (20:32) He does. Speaker 2 (20:33) If you're going to like Skyfall box, like in front of like a bunch of windows with just like red lights on you that, I mean, I just don't think this money can possibly come from good avenues. No way. Speaker 1 (20:44) I mean, look, doing a boxing workout could be fine. Sure. Could, you know, like I think you could use it to suggest certain things about a character, certainly. But the lighting, this is just aggressive. This is Speaker 2 (20:54) villain, villain lighting. Who Speaker 1 (20:55) does any kind of workout in like... piercing red light. Speaker 2 (20:59) Unless it's like actual the red light that, you know, can be restorative to you. Oh, you Speaker 1 (21:04) think he's got a bald spot he's trying to address up there? It's not just Speaker 2 (21:07) for hair growth. Speaker 1 (21:08) I know it's not. Speaker 2 (21:10) They have at my gym, they have like basically, it's like a tanning bed that's red light and you can go lay in it after a workout. But aren't Speaker 1 (21:16) you Speaker 2 (21:16) only supposed to Speaker 1 (21:17) do it for like 15 minutes at a time or so? Speaker 2 (21:19) Yeah, but like what if he's, what do they call it? Life maxing? That's not what they call it. I hope not. Biohacking. What if he's biohacking and he's like, I believe I've read some studies that say if you box under restorative red light or it's just villain lighting, you know? Speaker 1 (21:35) I think it's probably both. I think those studies are probably out there. I hope they're debunked soon because we got to stop people from boxing in weird red lights. Speaker 2 (21:42) I looked pretty sick, honestly. So Harkness is on an errand, it seems, for Damien to kill this guy, this dog. Now Speaker 1 (21:51) former dog, we should say. Now Speaker 2 (21:52) former dog. Now former person. Speaker 1 (21:54) He is deceased. Good correction. He is Speaker 2 (21:57) no longer. Shout out to this actor who was on Rings of Power the last two seasons, played a Harfoot, played a kindly fatherly Harfoot. Genuinely great on that show. No Harfoots this season on Rings of Power and bumped off after one episode on Slow Horses. So just like, I hope that guy gets more work soon. Speaker 1 (22:16) So I haven't watched Rings of Power. What are your feelings about the Harfoots in general? Speaker 2 (22:21) Thanks for asking. I like them. I don't think they were used super well in season two, but in season one, they were delightful to me. Speaker 1 (22:27) Are they?