Latest Arrest Connected to Karmelo Anthony Case, Nowak Prosecutors Appeal Digwa’s Lenient Sentence, New Developments in Nancy Guthrie Case | Ep. 1348

The Megyn Kelly Show

This episode of The Megyn Kelly Show covers multiple high-profile cases, including a racially charged assault in Longview, Texas, linked to the Carmelo Anthony conviction, a controversial WNBA player's treatment, and new developments in the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping case, where FBI investigators assess the authenticity of ransom notes and suspect a psychological motive behind the crime. The show al

Key takeaways

• The Longview assault is tied to the Carmelo Anthony case, with suspects allegedly chanting 'free Carmelo,' raising concerns about racially motivated retaliation.
• Jason Whitlock argues that hip-hop culture and media narratives have normalized violence and influenced public perception, citing parallels with the West Memphis Three.
• The Nancy Guthrie case involves ransom notes with highly specific details, including the location of her Apple Watch, which experts believe only the real abductor would know.

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Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show, live on Serious XM channel 111 every weekday at New East. Hey everyone on Megan Kelly, welcome to the Megan Kelly show and happy Friday. We made it through another week. Later in the show we're going to have our all-star panel to discuss the latest with this Nancy Guthrie case. Are we closer to solving this thing than we think our news with Maureen O'Connell the other day went viral? know she said she's 75% sure that they're closing in on porch man so we'll get into it. We're also gonna get in in just a minute to the controversy in the W NBA over Caitlin Clark, Jason Whitlock has got the inside scoop on this but first we begin today with a major update in the Carmelo Anthony case. There has now been an arrest reportedly as many as three arrests down in Texas and the feds are now reportedly stepping in reports Fox News Digital following a brutal assault on a Texas woman who was allegedly beaten down by a group of suspects chanting free Carmello. Fox is reporting that in Longview, Texas police have made this arrest in connection with this alleged random attack on a victim by this group of suspects that claim, according to Fox, that they had seen seen seen. said, quote, they were going to target the smallest white girl they could find. And they did indeed find a white girl who appears to be severely injured. We've got pictures of her injuries, which I'm going to show you now. She is, we don't have her name. We do know that one woman has been arrested for this assault. Here is the victim whose injuries appear all over her face and head. Her eyebrow is bloody and looks to have a. deep gash on it. The top of her head appears to have a deep gash and is quite bloody. There's a picture that they've released of her high-heeled shoe which none of us can quite figure out what we're seeing but they appear to think it's evidence and has blood on it. We can cycle through the pictures please. And you can see some of her injury. She's wearing a neck brace. She's clearly been attacked. This is not neck brace that you... Okay now we do have her name. The victim's name's name is Sammy Lee. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is and we had a car accident and we're looking to run up our insurance bills. You can see the blood all over this woman's face and head and arrests are being made. The first one is of 21 year old C. R. E. N. Fuller of Longview. She is facing assault charges and was booked into jail on a $20,000 bond according to local K-YT X. And the locals are reporting at least two other arrests as well in this case. Unbelievable. So this is we don't have any. what the race of the perpetrators is though I'm gonna assume it's not necessarily white if they were looking to target quote the smallest white girl they could find but this is in retaliation the report is that this is in retaliation for the Carmelo Anthony conviction this is insane Carmelo Anthony attacked and stabbed a young man to death he happened to be black and the and the decedent is white and this wasn't a race case despite the fact that Carmelo Anthony's family spokesperson tried to make it one. And now this small group of people, although it's growing, like the intellectual class, so-called, is jumping on board of this. Oh, now we have a picture of the perpetrator. Yeah, she does happen to be black. She's there with some crazy hair. Blonde, blonde tips and dark roots and I guess was allegedly part of this whole thing, now being held on $20,000 bond. So they're turning this into a race crime. Like what wasn't a race crime is turning into a race crime because there's a collection of people extremely angry about the fact that justice applied to Carmelo Anthony the same as it would to any other person who stabbed another boy in the heart with no reason. Here to join us on this case and more is our friend Jason Whitlock. He is the host of Fearless with Jason Whitlock. that is the finish line it's a handshake they get their commission done then you may not hear again from them until it's time for renewal and they need your money and commitment again it's not exactly a great relationship your business however runs all year and so do the gaps and so does the risk and so do events for which you need insurance and that is why I want to tell you about super sure if your company has more than 25 employees whether you are the owner the CFO or the HR manager it can be too complex to just buy a policy online SuperSure is the super agency built for you, licensed in every state for your business insurance and employee benefits, with year-round support for you and your team. At supersure.com you can access tools like fine print facts, which translates your current policy into plain English so that you see what's covered and what's not. Plus a business value calculator so you can estimate what your business is actually worth and then know what really needs protecting. Megan, one super agency, one powerful platform, all your policies in one place so convenient, so much easier to manage. Go to super sure dot com slash Megan, paid for by super sure insurance agency LLC, which is a licensed insurance agency. This is so infuriating, Jason. The turning of the narrative around Carmelo Anthony has been infuriating from the start and now it's culminating in race-based attacks as some sort of vengeance for what that the person who was hurt here was white it was Austin Metcalf who was the victim here the world is upside down Megan and we sit here and we're baffled like how did we get here and it's been a long process and it takes a lot to understand what is transpiring but you know I I the West Memphis three case, West Memphis, Arkansas. HBO did three documentaries. Three white kids, teenagers murdered three eight-year-old boys. And these were all white kids. Damien Eccles, 18, 19 years old, Jason Baldwin, and a Jesse Miss Kelly, they did the murders. And the prosecution argued that this was a satanic child child. sacrifice case. That's what they argued in court and the jury agreed and convicted these guys that gave Damian Eccles a life sentence. HBO jumped in and people like Johnny Depp and Eddie Vetter and other celebrities jumped in and said no this is satanic panic and this little small town in Arkansas and has and these are just kids and misconstrued and they didn't actually do it. And they for 18 years the media and HBO put out three different documentaries trying to argue that these kids were innocent and eventually they got an Alford plea and they became celebrities and heroes and they got sprung from prison. They did the crime. But and the argument was like heavy metal music and Stephen King books had influenced these kids into this satanic ritual child sacrifice deal and Megan I believe that the same thing is going on with hip-hop music and hip-hop culture it has the same influence over young black kids and it has overtaken black culture and so hip-hop culture. assault you with a weapon of some sort. And they want the rest of American society to bow to their standards. In hip-hop, any sort of disrespect can be met with violence. This is why you see so many videos of black people say, don't you put your hands on me, and see what happens if you put your hands on me. There's a mindset that has been given to black culture and black. people that's incompatible with Christian American culture and Christian American standards and that's how so many people are running around defending Carmelo because they've been brainwashed. You put your hands on him, you pushed him. And in our culture, hip-hop culture, we can be violent and kill you. And that's how they've come up with the self-defense case and they've got idiots like Dominique Alexander that represented the family, the new Al Sharpton. He's a convicted felon. He comes from this hip-hop prison. Yeah, prison, hip-hop culture. And he's out promoting this. And Megan, you remember when we saw the black kid out in front, the black man out in front of the courthouse dancing and jumping up and down in front of the white guy. And it just looks crazy. But we're gonna have to accept like, hey, there is a culture that has gone. absolutely nuts and has been influenced by this prison hip-hop and just quite frankly this African because a lot of this and I'm telling you it's hard to understand but I just I just had a pastor named G. Craig Lewis on my show and he's been talking about this for 30 years that black people American black people their obsession with Africa and connecting with African culture and from the changing their hairstyle to the changing of just their customs and wanting to bring that African culture to America. Well, we have to be honest about Africa and African culture and how violent and how tribal it is. And so we're looking at an American culture that's being influenced by African tribalism, is right in line with that if you look at the roots of hip-hop and what they brought and what they preach it's a lot to unpack and understand but it's very important that we understand what we're dealing with so that when we stand against it no one can call us racist or coons or sellouts it's just like hey man we don't want that African culture crap here in America we don't want religions or beliefs that say if you touch me I can kill you we got to reject that and I know you've been dealing with the slings and arrows as have I but we have to be even more resolved and resolute than like hey me this just can't stand everybody's at risk here I don't want to live in a society where people can interpret what I say is disrespect and then get all up in my face and try to bait me to touch them or have conflict with them, and then they get to kill me and pink me as the bad guy. Right, exactly right. This is, and now like to see it morph into retaliatory attacks, it's like, wait a minute, if we're just going purely by race here, a black person attacked and killed a white person. If there should be retaliation, it would be the other way around. How are now more black people attacking a white girl? as justice for this case. And it's because Carmelo was convicted and sentenced to prison. We're getting more details now as we speak on the other two arrested. We have their mug shots too. It appears to be a group of black women who attacked a white woman. Dejay Brown and Alana Mumfri are the names of the other two or showing their pictures here. They've voluntarily surrendered now to law enforcement. According to Lederian Brown, Longview Brown, Longview. police spokesperson each faces a charge of assault causing bodily injury both were booked into jail and released on $20,000 bonds according to online jail records again the victim is Sammy Lee who describes herself as new to Longview Texas she posted on Facebook on June 21st that she was assaulted at Whiskey Jays a bar by three quote random women who yelled free Carmello Lee said she had not interacted with those women in any way before for the assault, and now as I mentioned, the Longview police are in communication with the FBI, Jason, regarding the case and why? Because online conversations concerning retaliation, division, and attacks are increasing. So there's a group of people, this is sort of the Jasmine Crockett street, only actual street, not the fake street that Jasmine pretends she has in her background. like exact revenge on random white people reportedly. I mean they're gonna have to check into this woman's story you know like we don't know for sure whether that's what they said and we'll see what their defenses are. But if this is true this is deeply disturbing this woman's injuries are no joke either. Listen and I'm not trying to be provocative and look it is it is. Black people have been convinced that we're victims of white supremacy. We're not victims of our own choice. we don't control our destiny through the music through our education system through everything the left has done the identity politics and all that you're a victim and you have a right to be violent towards the people that you believe are your oppressors and at some point like we like America did before the civil war during the civil war during the civil war during America had a conversation with itself, say, hey man, white people have a racism problem that has to be addressed head on. We now need to say black people have a racism problem and they're practicing a form of religion that is destroying them and now looking to destroy the rest of America. We have to be that direct and that honest. I get why most people are free. Corporate America doesn't want you to say that. it could put you out of a leadership position or get you targeted over social media. But if we don't have a real honest conversation about what's gone on with the black church and how it's lost course and has gone into racial victimhood. And again, as a Christian, any of it, or those of us that just have Christian values within it. We don't believe in victimhood. America is the land of opportunity. It's not the land of oppression. People from around the world and people of all colors aren't trying to get into America because it's the land of oppression. It's the land of opportunity. And there's a documented history of white Christians fighting for the freedom of black people and black Americans and giving money to Africa and all this other stuff. White people are not perfect. They're just as flawed as everybody else. But this rap that they're like out to destroy Black people and Black Americans, it's a lie. And there's all kinds of evidence that it's a lie. And white people, what they've done is said like, you adopt this Christian culture and we're good. We don't care what color you are. That is the true story of America. And black people seem to be saying... you know we don't share those values everything needs to be based on skin color and and you know we're gonna be tribal based on skin color while being tribal like Africans over in Africa that wore and destroy black people and white people and so we get the the worst of all of it you know black on black crime is out of control and just the smearing of America and white people, it's all out of control. You know, what we're experiencing here is no different than what's going on in South Africa. White people are being targeted by black people out of racial animus and everybody has to sit around and be quiet and pretend like it's not happening. I'm not going to pretend anymore and we can't. I mean, we're taking it all the way back to the Carmel Anthony case. A 17-year old boy was. stabbed in the heart for pushing a kid at a track me. We pushed and shoved all the time when I was a kid. That's what kids do. They don't stab each other in the heart. And a guy has stabbed and killed a 17-year-old kid. And somehow he's being turned into the victim by politicians, mainstream television, broadcasters, and pundits. And, and pundits. This is insanity and we have to stop it. It's awful. It's like truly this one's so crazy to me because it's like we've We've almost become I don't know inured to cop Unleashes fire on a black man and then we're gonna have riots We're gonna have weeks of media coverage putting it on a loop It's gonna be misrepresented and you there could even be retaliatory violence like we just saw but this is. This is. in this case a black man killed a white man teenagers that's what happened and then was held to account in a criminal court of law by a jury and a judge and a whole trial I like how is there retaliatory violence against whites this is just bizarre and it's something something's definitely happening and I know you're speaking generally don't speak about all black people in this way but there's definitely a collection that's had a very bizarre outsized reaction to this verdict that is showing shining a light on an underbelly that is dark and disturbing let me say one last thing and I'm sorry but hey look the indifference to what happened to Austin Medcalf that's just as sinful as anything else and so the people that aren't shouting down the idiots and so I'm not I don't want to paint a broad brush and obviously there are black people like myself culture in general has been so influenced by the depravity of hip-hop that too many black people are indifferent about what happened to Austin Medcalf. And that's just as bad as the people that are out seeking violence and harming white people because it's that indifference that's kind of a passive okay. Well, I get why you did that. I get why you did that. I get why Carmello. that I get why these women went out and attacked these other white women. The indifference bothers me that everybody isn't screaming at the top of their lungs, hey there's a problem here, we can't continue to bathe our kids. Megan, you've got kids. Trust me, the music that you listen to while the child is in your womb, when the child is growing up, it affects their soul and their men. And we're letting kids listen to this depraved music and the point I was making about the West Memphis 3 is that like white people saw this with heavy metal music and called it out in real time and they got pushed back and all that other stuff but they they're aware like music has an influence that we don't fully understand and if we're going to allow all this profanity all this profanity all this sex talk and young kids are know all the lyrics to this don't be surprised that when they get to be teenagers they're participating in teen-takers and just doing violence and and rioting for no reason that their minds have been groomed you're not the only one saying that we we've had on Dr. Leonard Sachs who is an expert in childhood psychiatry and child rearing he's been he's a worldwide recognized expert in children and their psychology and so on and he has been making a similar point he remember him using just an easy example to remember on our show talking about how because I said to him Jason I'm like those of us who grew up in like the 70s and the 80s we really had no parents so you know like why are you so worried about what's on TV and radio because back then we were raised by TV and radio you know like parents didn't pay any attention to us back in those decades and he said it's different now you put yourself in front of the TV or your kid in front of the TV and the radio without you there now and they're hearing those kinds of messages that you just talked about you know about like killing and violence and sex and disrespect for authority figures including your parents and the message like sort of the babysitter is very very different than it was in the 70s when it was like the Brady bunch and Little House on the Prairie. Father knows best. The worst you could fall into. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he had a good. He had a good point a good point about it. Yeah. He had a good point about it. the pop culture actually affirmed the values that you wanted to instill to some degree not all of it but again I grew up watching Dennis de Minus and father knows best in the Brady Bunch and those three sons yeah my yeah those values were like those are good values that they're affirming in those shows now all of pop culture is telling you screw your parents screw authority change everything you don't even have just change is good change we can believe all the stuff Obama basically affirm that if you're changing something that's a good thing well hold on you know what if you're Megan Kelly and you're beautiful and the change they want Megan Kelly to do is hey overeat and become 200 pounds well that's not good change it's it's it's just so all change isn't good to America that don't need to be changed. Period. End of story. Forgive me for bringing up a tough topic, but I think it fits here, which is Uncle Jimmy was murdered. I can't believe this. He was your co-host for years. You guys came on this show. It was during the summer because I remembered I was down at the Jersey Shore when I was talking to you both. Watch this. What made you say, you know, what would add to this? I want to bring? back Jimmy in how many years ago three years ago Jim was still in Kansas City Kansas he was a true story yeah he was a sergeant I worked in law enforcement for 17 years I walked in the sheriff's in the sheriff's department in Kansas City in Kansas. television show at Fox Sports to play the role of my uncle on my talk show speak for yourself and people thought I was crazy and and people thought I was crazy yeah people well you were crazy so they they were but they thought I was crazy for wanting to do it the guy works at a jail he gonna crack jokes on TV now what are you talking about and so I had to twist arms and beg and eventually they allowed Jimmy to come on to move out to LA and appear on my TV show, Speak for yourself. And he was murdered recently. He was only 64? Yes. What happened, Jason? Three teenagers, black. I think got into dispute with one of Jimmy's sons earlier in the day and circled back and shot up. Jimmy's house and Jimmy was sitting in his driveway in his car about to run an errand and got shot in the back of the head. And yeah, it's the random violence that we talk about all the time and the young kids out of control unfathered. Again, it's like we want to reject the fact that you know if 75% of your kids are growing up in a home with no father. That's a problem that has to be addressed. The matriarchy is not going to fix that. Fathers have to come back into the homes so that there's peace, there's an authority figure, there's someone that is a protector and a provider. You know, we want to pretend like a single mother can do what two parents can do. And it's just not true. And I, my parents divorced when I was four or five years ago. old and I was raised primarily up until my senior year of high school in the home with my mother. But my dad was always involved and then my senior year of high school I live with my dad. But I'm under no illusion that things would have been better had my parents stayed together and that that system produces better than the single parent fruit. But we can't talk about it because you get called racist or a cooon for talking about it or you hear. hate women, you're sexist or whatever. No man, I believe the data, I believe the Bible, but I believe the data even more that two parents do a better job than one parent. Two parents create a better neighborhood and community than neighborhoods dominated by a single parent. It just is what it is, but they've used race to silence us away from just common sense. and things that have been proven over thousands of years. We don't have to debate whether two parents are better than one. We got thousands of years of data that says there's been no society, no great society built that wasn't built on the back of the nuclear family. And so, you know, I guess we're going to try to be the first and the early results. The primaries have been decided. It's not going well. It's if you want to look at what single parent and the matriarchy can do, look at the American black community. Look at the SAT scores, look at the incarceration rate, look at the teenage pregnancy rates, look at all of it. The results are in. It doesn't work. Well, I'm very sorry for your loss, Jason. I liked him. He was fun and I was shocked to hear that news. I know. I know. You guys went way back. I know. we got to get to this controversy in the W MBA with Caitlin Clark. I've been following your coverage. Jason has been analyzing these clips and what's been happening with her on the fever, like the Zapruder films and I am here for it. That's why we first booked you. I'm like, I want him to walk me through all of this. So I'm just gonna lay out what my producers put together just to get the audience up and running and then you're gonna take it's so fascinating your take and I told you've convinced me 100 percent. started on Wednesday, well it started before Wednesday, but the latest chapter started Wednesday when the league released its 30th anniversary poster. We're showing it on the screen right now. Caitlin Clark, the league's biggest star, she's responsible for huge ratings, sold out arenas, she's not on it. Okay, and there are recent players on it. Like I think Angel Reese is on it. Okay, why are she on it and Caitlin Clark is not on it? That's a question. Some people are suggesting it's because she, it's a licensing issue, it's a licensing issue that's a she hasn't allowed that, but we haven't heard that from the league itself. And it does seem weird to me that the W MBA wouldn't have permission to use Caitlin's image, so we don't know, all right? Because it's absolutely baffling. But that wound up not even being the biggest controversy on Wednesday because in Caitlin's game that night against the Phoenix Mercury, Mercury player Alyssa Thomas lodged her fist into Caitlin's neck in a play where no foul was called, We're showing a still of it right now. I'm not a sports expert, but I mean it does seem like a foul seems like a clear foul. Even I can see that. Now the W MBA upgraded the play after the fact because there was all this outrage after the game because nothing had been called. It was like well how is that not a foul so then they upgraded it which they can do after a game is ended not just to any foul but to a flagrant two foul and Thomas got suspended but just for one game. So many critics are find something like a pittance I think was a thousand bucks and she makes one point two million a year according to Caitlin's coach who's going to play a pivotal role in our discussion with Jason here that was not the only cheap shot by the mercury that night you can see on your screen a mercury player fouling Clark on a three-point attempt not giving her space to land safely which I'm told you're supposed to do people who have played basketball say this is exactly the type of play that can lead to a nasty ankle injury which is why they often call it as a foul this case and there are allegations that it's a pattern when it comes to Caitlin Clark that the league and its refs allow her to get beaten, I mean physically beaten, not beaten in the sports lingo, without calling the fowls because they can't stand her. Pretty much everyone hates Caitlin Clark in this league. She maybe have a couple of friends but everyone hates her. And you know there are real questions about why is it just normal professional professional. Is it a race thing? Is it a sexuality thing? Because 74% of the league, according to some reporters, are well first black and then some huge portion of them are also gay. Why do they have to be gay? Why are so many soccer players gay and why are so many basketball players gay with the women I'm saying? Like I don't I don't get it. He's like whatever but in any event they hate her. Now Caitlin back to this game in which she got the punch to the throat. walked out of the game, like before it was over, I think it was third quarter. And they said nothing like the announcers weren't talking about, it was like the biggest player in the league just walked off in the middle of the game. And then they kind of came back up and they were like, oh, it's a back injury. And Jason Whitlock says, if you believe that you haven't been paying attention because there is a dynamic that caused Caitlin Clark to walk off of the court that day and it had, and it had, in his opinion, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, to do with her back. Okay, take it away, my friend. So let me, there's a bunch of things you said. Let's, the close out play where the woman is contesting Caitlin shot. There was a foul called on that and Caitlin went to the line and shot three free throws. What they didn't review is whether that was a reckless close out, which would have required it an