First Lady Jill Biden Reveals All (Pt 2) Life-Changing Lessons on Fear, Faith, Hardship & Hope

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In this deeply personal second part of her conversation with First Lady Dr. Jill Biden, Jamie Kern Lima explores the challenges of living th

Key takeaways

• Caregiving for a loved one with advanced illness is emotionally and physically exhausting, requiring constant vigilance and mental presence.
• Even in moments of profound hardship, maintaining normal routines—like attending public events or taking Amtrak—can be an act of strength and dignity.

Main topics

• President Joe Biden's stage four metastatic cancer diagnosis
• The emotional and physical realities of caregiving

Notable quotes

"He just doesn't ever get up and say, God, I feel great today."

"It takes its toll. Like, um, in that, like you're saying, he takes Amtrak. He goes to make a speech..."

Conclusion

Through vulnerability and honesty, First Lady Jill Biden shares how love, faith, and family

Transcript preview

Speaker 1 (0:00) He was diagnosed with stage four metastatic cancer, prostate cancer that has spread to his bones. How is he doing right now? Speaker 1 (0:11) I think the combination Speaker 3 (0:12) of everything has Speaker 1 (0:14) taken Speaker 3 (0:14) its Speaker 1 (0:15) toll. One of the questions on everyone's mind right now, what his most recent prognosis is. He just had scans coming up in this incredible part two episode with First Lady Dr. Jill Biden. First Lady Dr. Jill Biden. I had a feeling you might wear blue. Speaker 3 (0:35) Oh, it's my favorite color. The Speaker 1 (0:37) medications are hard. What is the long-term prognosis that they say? They said, are you scared? Scared that he's Speaker 3 (0:49) going to die. How are his spirits? Stage four cancer really slows you down. And I've seen that. And, you know, he just... doesn't ever Speaker 1 (1:05) get up and say, God, I feel great today. Do they say, will he need to continue to be on medications? Forever. Forever. Forever. That have side effects and that are really difficult. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 3 (1:16) They're not God. And you know what? They don't want to be God. And they don't want to be wrong. He's always been the strength of our family. Speaker 1 (1:25) Do you or him ever cry over it together? No. No. Speaker 3 (1:30) I'm not, well, Of course, this interview, you started right in and I started to tear up. But basically, I mean, Speaker 1 (1:37) I am not a crier. A couple of things I have to ask you because people want to know the moment in the debate with President Biden and now President Trump. You talk about wondering in that moment live, is he having a stroke or was he drugged? Were there any steps taken after to rule out? Speaker 3 (1:57) I mean, I had so much anxiety about it. Joe and I both had a team of doctors around both of us at all times. And he had a Speaker 1 (2:07) team, I had a team. Were they able to definitively rule out he did not have a stroke that night? What does your gut tell you happened? Speaker 1 (2:17) That is my honest to God, true answer. And there's no way anyone could have, God forbid, laced his drink or something. Who knows? Who knows? Speaker 3 (2:28) Right? Speaker 1 (2:29) Who knows? President Biden's book comes out in November. Anything, a sneak peek, tease, you can tell us about it. Speaker 3 (2:39) Well, First Speaker 1 (2:40) Lady Dr. Jill Biden made history as the first First Lady to hold a full-time job as a college professor, while also serving in her full-time role in the White House and across the country as our First Lady. She's carried unimaginable tragedies and loss, from losing her son Beau to cancer, to her other son Hunter battling extreme drug addiction. to now President Joe Biden being diagnosed with stage four metastatic cancer. And she has a brand new book out called View from the East Wing. You can get it anywhere books are sold. And it's also on Audible, where the first lady herself reads it to you. And today she's opening up like never before, and nothing is off limits. I am so happy you're here and so excited for this conversation we're having together today with First Lady Dr. Jill Biden. The intention of this show is to be a force for good and a force for love. I have guests on that might vote differently or love differently or pray differently from you and me because I believe to help heal humanity through love, we must first understand the humans who make it up. And I am so happy that you are here. No matter how you vote, how you love, how you pray, you belong here. And whether today you're listening for yourself or because someone shared this episode with you, welcome to the Jamie Kern Lima Show podcast family. I'd be so grateful if you take two seconds and just hit the subscribe button on the app you're listening or watching on. That way you're going to be the very first to get every inspirational episode. Plus, you can also get weekly inspiration into your inbox from me to you for free. Just join my newsletter at jamiekernlima.com. And thank you so much for sharing this episode with every single person you know who might need some inspiration of their own today or perhaps some hope because we are all in this one life together. Speaker 2 (4:38) And right Speaker 1 (4:39) now, as the first lady shares in this episode, President Joe Biden is in the fight of his life, battling stage four cancer. While the First Lady agreed that today no questions were off limits, and so I do ask the most pressing questions so many of us want to know, I also want to ask you to join me in praying for President Biden's health and strength, and in praying for and sending love to his entire family during this time. Speaker 2 (5:12) Welcome to the Jamie Kern Lima Show. Speaker 1 (5:15) Oprah, how have you defied the odds? Her show Speaker 2 (5:20) is unlike any I've ever done. A revelation. When you listen, it feels like a hug. First Lady Michelle Obama. Jamie, you are going so deep. I have never had this in-depth conversation. I've actually never said that out loud to anybody in an interview before. You know how to get there. Speaker 2 (5:40) Your brain and your spirit and your heart is like, wow. Melinda French Gates. When I look into Jamie's eyes, I feel like I am on some other cosmic level with her. Megan, Duchess of Speaker 1 (5:55) Sussex. I wasn't expecting that one. Speaker 3 (5:57) I could see the light around her. She's Speaker 1 (6:00) infused with light. Maria Shriver. I never made that mistake again. Imagine overcoming self-doubt. learning to believe in yourself and trust yourself and know you are enough. Welcome to the Jamie Kern Lima Show. Jamie Speaker 2 (6:17) Kern Lima is her name. Everybody needs Jamie Kern Lima in their life. Speaker 1 (6:20) Jamie Kern Lima. Speaker 2 (6:25) Jamie, Speaker 1 (6:26) you're so inspiring. Speaker 2 (6:27) Jamie Kern Lima. Speaker 1 (6:31) If Hunter decides to run for office. Oh, my gosh. If Speaker 2 (6:37) Hunter decides Speaker 1 (6:38) to run for president, what would you tell him? What would President Biden tell him? Speaker 3 (6:47) You know, I do have a funny answer for that. I would say run. But then you take that how you want to. Speaker 1 (6:53) Yeah. Right. Ah. Ah. Speaker 3 (6:57) So. You know, Hunter's got to find his own path and whatever he decides to do. And I feel this is true his whole life. I feel it from all our kids. Whatever they decide to do. I mean, our grandkids, our kids will support them. I mean, we will support them 100 percent. And I felt that same way about Joe. You know, a lot of times when. when he thought about running for president, and it was, to me, it was kind of unreal and daunting, I