Belt Treatment to Cockroaches Begin | Shehzad vs Swara in Rise & Fall | UGC Trap | Karan Verma

The Jaipur Dialogues Podcasts

The episode explores the intersection of reality television and political ideology, focusing on a clash between Shahzad and Swara Bhaskar. T

Key takeaways

• The reality TV conflict between Shahzad and Swara Bhaskar is framed as a microcosm of the larger Hindutva vs. Wokeism battle.
• There is significant debate regarding the potential misuse of SC/ST laws and its impact on legal procedures under BNSS.

Main topics

• Reality TV Ideology
• SC/ST Act & Legal Reforms

Notable quotes

No topic is off the table.

Conclusion

The episode provides a highly opinionated look at how political narrat

Transcript preview

Speaker 2 (0:12) Namaste! Today Speaker 1 (0:15) is Monday. On Speaker 2 (0:16) Monday, we Speaker 1 (0:17) have Karan Verma with us. Speaker 2 (0:20) Today, we will have some interesting talks with Karan Verma. And especially, we will talk about Shahzad versus Uwara. Speaker 2 (0:41) political topics Speaker 2 (1:16) uh are you looking forward to it Speaker 1 (1:24) absolutely absolutely Speaker 1 (1:48) And this ecosystem is made up of you first of all. The viewers. And Speaker 2 (1:52) no topic is off the table, by the way. Speaker 1 (1:55) No topic is off the table. All views are welcome. There is nothing wrong with this. We are reasonable right-wing people. We are not like Swara Bhaskar or Suara Bhaskar as they call it. So we can always discuss. We will not Speaker 2 (2:10) do as Speaker 1 (2:10) we did in this reality show. If you have seen, Shahzad was attacked. Speaker 1 (2:43) physical Speaker 2 (2:44) Was Speaker 1 (2:44) it Speaker 2 (2:44) a binola breed or a normal pet breed? I thought it Speaker 1 (2:51) was Speaker 2 (2:51) a binola breed. Speaker 1 (3:13) I had done a good podcast on this topic. I had talked about it. So I told Shahzad, you and Suwara will be under the same roof. How will this happen? So he said one thing that I will not even touch her. I will ignore her. So I thought he said it. This will not happen. Now when you are watching this show, he has literally ignored her. Means he has not even said hello to her. He has not even looked at her. Now these Vokes and Liberals, their cheeks start to move. So he managed to get under her skin. Okay, this is such an attention seeker. When she came, you might not have seen it, when she came, she wore a sari and it said Moti. It was written by herself, Moti. M-O-T-I. So first some people thought it was written Modi. Some people said that she wrote Modi. Speaker 2 (4:08) She Speaker 1 (4:08) became a Modi lover. Many people read it as Modi and she was trolled everywhere. Then she said, no, no, no, I am fat. Just like Vokes. You know, in America, gym enthusiasts are saying, go back to fat shaming. This is because of body positivity. People say, okay, you are asking us to work out. You mean to demean us? How dare you call us obese? Body positivity. Body positivity. So, fat shaming is wrong, of course. But, this is also a different type of vocation. So, this is what Suhra said. Go and tell us from Sehwag. No, no, no. Not Speaker 2 (4:50) like that. You complete the description of Suhra. First, tell us how was her dress? You said she was wearing a sari. So, was her blouse with bra or bra less? Speaker 1 (5:03) I said, I don't have a penetrative vision like you. I didn't see that. No bras is in the works. No bras. Speaker 2 (5:13) Bra burners. Speaker 1 (5:15) Bra burning Speaker 2 (5:17) started in the 60s. It Speaker 1 (5:19) started in the Speaker 2 (5:19) 60s. Speaker 1 (5:21) After that, he told Sehwag that all these nationalists keep trolling me all day. Tell me. I don't know them, I don't do this, but I am fat, fat, fat, screaming for help. When I entered inside, the prince told me, look, what you said about Johar, Rajput, Asmita, and what you said that when Ram Mandir was built, all my Muslim friends, I don't know who's phone is this, he said he is my friend. He picks up his phone and says that he was wrong and he is really sorry as a Hindu. Shahzad says that he has no interest in talking to him. Now this situation is very hot. In the meantime, there is another person named Sivet, a very doggled person. Sivet Tomar. He says that he is also a Rajput and he will not talk to him after seeing what Swara said. Shahzad, I am with you. Speaker 1 (6:24) Shahzad said, that's a very good thing. After that, he Speaker 2 (6:29) cheated. Speaker 1 (6:36) He went and met Swarasim. He started talking to him. And they started cornering Shahzad. Speaker 1 (6:59) and now he has been disqualified and thrown out So the interesting thing is, for the first time in reality TV, I don't watch it but for the first time, and this is the news everywhere right now, that there is a fight in reality TV for the thought process. This person is saying at the expense of the donkey, I don't want to get into the mouth of these Vokes and Liberals. I will go to hell, I will get out, Shahzad says. I will not go out of my thoughts, I will go after you. Speaker 1 (7:33) This is an interesting show. It's gotten everyone intrigued. This is going well. Now it's happening on reality TV too. Now Speaker 2 (7:42) it Speaker 1 (7:42) will happen on Speaker 2 (7:42) reality TV too. It's like Hanuman and Ansh. The fight of Speaker 1 (7:47) thoughts Speaker 2 (7:47) started in Bollywood. Speaker 1 (7:48) It will start on reality Speaker 2 (7:50) shows. Then what will happen? This was Speaker 1 (7:52) Vox's exclusive domain. Yes, yes. One said it. One said that this is Hamza. Modi ji, like Ajay Sanyal. He had called Hamza to go to Lyari and do dhwasht. People said that BJP has sent him. He said that now you have to go to the reality TV world and spread Hindutva. Go and start all this there. All these talks are going on. Very interesting. What we talk about, sir, the general talk on the national ecosystem, that is now being talked on reality TV, which was considered Speaker 2 (8:25) a Speaker 1 (8:25) big taboo. He said don't talk about this, keep your husband healthy. The most interesting thing is that Teju, son of Lalu, is supporting him. He is saying Jai Sanatan. Radhe Radhe. I heard he greeted Suwara Speaker 2 (8:45) with Radhe Radhe. Yes, he Speaker 1 (8:47) did. Teju Bhaiya. Shahzad? Speaker 2 (8:49) Shahzad? Speaker 1 (8:50) Shahzad shouted loudly. Radhe Radhe. Jai Shri Ram! So the sound of the show started to melt down. One day mat! So this... Now the show people are generally illiterate. You know they are not that politically aware. Now they are all stunned, all these TV actors. They are waking up that this is the thought of the show. Okay, it was like this. So these talks used to happen in the domain of reality TV. And by the way, Speaker 1 (10:00) I can tell her a Speaker 2 (10:03) way. I Speaker 1 (10:05) identify as a Dalit. She can say this. Speaker 2 (10:20) Manusmriti is not rigid. You can move up and down. In fact, entire communities used to move up and down. You can move up and down because we can teach Shura the ways. For that, you have to pay Speaker 1 (10:32) fees, consultancy. Speaker 2 (10:34) I will tell you. Shura, according to this Shloka, you can claim that I am untouchable. Speaker 1 (10:45) No, but you see, sir, what an interesting thing happened while leaving, which is what's making tomorrow very interesting. So she was thrown out, who let go of her hand. So Swara sat on the throne there. It means, she didn't even have the Jantar Mantra. Now she is sitting on the throne, that take out the prince. It means, she doesn't just want Gyanesh Kumar and Dharmendra Pradhan's status. She wants the prince's status. She says, who provoked her? So if he goes, he has caught another actor with him, Karan Patel. If he doesn't go, then we will also sit on the throne. We are also going out with him, packing our stuff. Speaker 2 (11:26) It's Speaker 1 (11:26) very interesting. Look, this is the change of Vokes and Liberals. How many days is this show? It's been two days, sir. It's been so much chaos. Every day it's coming now. No, I am told it is some 40 days or something. Till they get eliminated. Till they get eliminated. Till then, interest is still these two. Speaker 1 (11:53) You are there. So you have to give it to Shahzad for being unapologetically ideological. This is fun. This Speaker 2 (12:07) is real fun. Speaker 1 (12:11) This is called Speaker 2 (12:20) died Speaker 1 (12:22) in the wool. Speaker 2 (12:23) JNU 8. Speaker 1 (12:25) This is a very tough Speaker 2 (12:27) JNU. Yes, Speaker 1 (12:30) yes. No, Shahzad said Speaker 2 (12:32) this. Where did you get the chance? Oh, man, they made a mistake. He should have given more Duffley. Speaker 1 (12:36) Hmm. Right. Duffley Speaker 2 (12:39) asks Speaker 1 (12:40) for Speaker 2 (12:40) freedom. Speaker 1 (12:41) Stalin's freedom. Mao's freedom. Lenin's freedom. Speaker 1 (12:48) He told Shahzad that you won't get the ticket. Do whatever you want. So he said, what has your husband done? He got the ticket, right? How many votes did he get? So now see how their love stories are also like. Swara, what is your love story telling? We met during the CAA protest. Okay. Brother, brother. Speaker 2 (13:09) And Speaker 1 (13:10) brother Speaker 2 (13:10) became brother. Yes, Speaker 1 (13:12) brother became brother. We met during the CAA protest. Who was our Cupid? Umar Khalid was Cupid. Before leaving, he gave it Speaker 2 (13:18) to them. Speaker 1 (13:19) Khalid is a Cupid. Where Speaker 2 (13:21) will the heart go? Will it Speaker 1 (13:22) be saved or not? So when such people come... Let me tell you one more thing. Swara posted a story a month ago. That boycott these products to save Palestine. Boycott. Okay. Don't give them business. So, in that, there was Amazon. Amazon was the product. She was telling her viewers that boycott Amazon. Till Amazon offered her a reality show. Amazon offered a reality show. Swara said, this happens. Come on, go inside. Speaker 2 (14:07) This is the Speaker 1 (14:08) beauty of it. The total hypocrites were exposed in two days. All the leftists here. Speaker 2 (14:17) This is a very interesting incident. This is the ultimate. Where will our entire ecosystem go? And if the ecosystem is over, then we will take pot shots on them. Speaker 1 (14:55) First time in reality show physical attack happened. Think how leftist are so arrogant. How they resort to violence when they have no arguments. Speaker 1 (15:24) So Speaker 2 (15:24) he says that cockroaches always win. And we will take Gyanesh Kumar's resignation. We have Speaker 1 (15:36) thought of Speaker 2 (15:36) Gyanesh Kumar as the chairman of the government. The decision to take the resignation of the chairman was already decided. We know this and you know this too. Cockroaches were said that they first