The Sandra Bullock Movie Star Playbook and ‘Practical Magic 2.’ Plus: ‘Oasis: Don’t Look Back in Anger.’

The Big Picture

Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins are joined by Yasi Salek to discuss 'Oasis: Don't Look Back in Anger,' a concert documentary they loved, a

Key takeaways

• The sequel 'Practical Magic 2' underperformed both critically and commercially despite the original's cult status.
• Oasis: Don't Look Back in Anger was praised for its emotional depth, archival footage, and immersive concert experience.

Main topics

• Oasis: Don't Look Back in Anger concert documentary
• Practical Magic 2 sequel critique

Notable quotes

'Practical Magic 2' is a brutal watch.

Conclusion

While 'Practical Magic 2' failed to live up to expectations, 'Oasis: Don'

Transcript preview

Speaker 1 (0:05) It's time for us to hit the road once again. Last time we left the country, this time we're staying in state. Speaker 2 (0:10) We're heading to ACT's Tony Remby Theater in San Francisco on Wednesday, October 21st for a very special live show. We'd love for you to join us. Speaker 1 (0:20) Tickets will go on sale this coming Friday, September 18th at 11 a.m. Pacific. TheRinger.com slash events. We'll have all the details very soon. Speaker 2 (0:28) Again, the big picture will be live in San Francisco at ACT's Tony Rumbie Theater on Wednesday, October 21st. And you can grab your tickets beginning this Friday, September 18th at 11 a.m. Pacific. Speaker 1 (0:40) More information will be at theringer.com slash events soon. We hope to see you there. Speaker 1 (0:55) I'm Sean Fennessey. I'm Amanda Dobbins. And this is the Big Picture Conversation Show about magic done practically. On today's podcast, Amanda and I are joined by Yossi Salik of the Bandsplain Podcast to dig into the weekend's big movie, sort of, Practical Magic 2, a sequel to the 1998 original starring Nicole Kidman and Sandra Bullock. Later in the episode, we will talk about Sandra Bullock's interesting career and maybe where it should go from here. We will also talk about the new millennial ultra text. which is a concert documentary called Oasis Don't Look Back in Anger. We'll also talk about some movie news right after this. Speaker 1 (1:28) This episode is presented by State Farm. You know the feeling. Long day, good meal, you finally sit down, and now you're just staring at your screen. Slasher, rom-com, period drama, psychological thriller. But some decisions don't have to be that hard. State Farm is here to help. Like when you choose to bundle and save with the personal price plan. Bundling, just another way to save with the personal price plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state. Speaker 1 (2:01) Okay. We were just discussing our weekends as able-bodied 40-somethings. And some of it was around friendship management, birthday parties, the screenings we attended together and not together. Speaker 3 (2:15) And Speaker 1 (2:15) some of it was about how none of us are in Toronto, even though I got a chance to see a bunch of the movies that are at the Toronto International Film Festival. So I wanted to just mark some time on the movie calendar here because one week from today, Adam Neiman, our... dogged Canadian correspondent and mean pod guy will be here to give us the full wrap up on the TIFF lineup. Speaker 2 (2:36) Runner up in the Canadian movie draft. That Speaker 1 (2:38) is true. Yes. Hi, Speaker 2 (2:40) Adam. Speaker 1 (2:41) Hi, Canada. Yeah. Do you think that that was a just victory? No. Okay. Speaker 2 (2:45) And also, I mean, I'm still getting rude comments from Canadians who have just like wandered into this room and been like, what is the big picture? What's a movie draft? And what, you know, how can you? say that this represents Canadian cinema, which we did not, to be clear. We were very clear about the fact that we were carpetbaggers, that we showed up welcome, but uninformed. It's Speaker 1 (3:09) true. Very Speaker 2 (3:09) American behavior. Yeah. It's also on Speaker 1 (3:11) brand for this podcast in general. Over the weekend, a bunch of movies did premiere at TIFF. I got a chance to see I Play Rocky, which is the new biopic about the making of the film Rocky, the sort of film I usually don't like. Kind of enjoyed this one. We'll talk about it a little bit more with Adam. I'm very curious to hear what he has to say. I suspect not kind things. Also saw the Mahershala Ali film Your Mother, Your Mother, Your Mother, which is the film that he and Basim Tariq made after they did not make Blade. Speaker 3 (3:36) They Speaker 1 (3:36) should have made Blade. This movie was really good. Misty Green saw Chris Rock's new movie, which I thought was fascinating and will be the subject of an interesting conversation on this show. And then there were a few other titles, Being Human, River apparently popped for some people, and Love of Your Life. In addition to that, some film festival news. You were not at the Venice Film Festival this year with Amanda. Speaker 3 (3:57) Sadly this year. Sad it out. Speaker 2 (3:59) Yeah. I sent you some texts. You did. I visited some of our old haunts. I felt really loved. I felt loved and missed. I thought of you often. Yeah. And I did impulse buy some velvet shoes that I didn't really need in your honor. As you do, Speaker 3 (4:12) yeah. And Speaker 2 (4:12) also some glass. Did you know that this year I did some Murano glass as Speaker 3 (4:16) well? Speaker 2 (4:16) You said? How did you get it home? In my bag, you know? Amazing. Just with the, they wrapped it up nicely and it's beautiful. Speaker 1 (4:22) We ended last Thursday hearing this story off mic and I'm hearing it once again on mic. It's important. The results of the Venice Film Festival prize winners. Speaker 2 (4:31) Very confusing. Full disclosure, I was in a Target watching my son try to play a Nintendo Switch as you were texting me being like, who do you think will win the Golden Lion? And I was like, I don't, I'm back to my other life. Possible Love, which I think everyone thought would be the winner, won the Silver Lion. the runner-up. Speaker 1 (4:53) And Speaker 2 (4:53) so there was about, what, five minutes of intrigue when we had to guess? That was when I Speaker 1 (4:57) texted you. Yeah. I saw Possible Love on the silver line, and I was like, huh. Speaker 2 (5:01) Yeah. Weird. What's left? Yeah. So it turns out that Woman Unknown, directed by May El-Touki, won. I did see this movie. So I'm two for two at going to URNP film festivals and seeing the top prize. That's right. You are. Just very exciting for me. And Speaker 1 (5:15) yet it was not a part of your report. So why was that? It Speaker 2 (5:18) was not bad. but also not particularly memorable. I think it's a perfectly competent film. It's set in 1945 or just very, very recent post-war Denmark and is about what that society is doing with collaborators or how they're responding to life after being occupied by the Nazis for many years as they were. Speaker 2 (5:50) And it is told from the perspective and focuses on women rather than men. And male Tuki is... Women? Women. Have you heard of them? And there was some controversy at the Venice Film Festival that there were very few films directed by women in competition. Speaker 1 (6:06) This Speaker 2 (6:07) film was. The other interesting thing about this is, did you hear about the premiere? No. Where things went nuts. So after, you know, only letting like two women, I think, into the... the competition, they screwed up the premiere and the subtitles got all wrong. And so they actually had to stop and restart and many people left. So this film has been, you know, mistreated by Venice until, I guess, the makeup of the Golden Lion. I thought it was totally normal in a film that, like, I've seen in some ways many times before. And also... steals kind of its most memorable moments from Game of Thrones. So in that sense, there's Speaker 1 (6:53) a whole- Speaker 2 (6:53) Really? Are there White Walkers in this film? Speaker 2 (6:56) But that's okay. I mean, it's not not effective, but I, you know, I didn't race out to tell you about it. Yeah, Speaker 1 (7:01) yeah. That's interesting. Okay. I mean, I look forward to seeing that movie. I noticed that also the star of the film, Mathilde Arcel, also won Best Actress. And she's good. Yeah. Speaker 2 (7:11) And Speaker 1 (7:11) Malkovich won for Wild Horse Nine, perhaps unsurprisingly. There was a special jury prize for Naza from Yuval Abraham and Rachel Zohr, Yuval Abraham, of course. Speaker 1 (7:22) worked on No Other Land, the documentary a couple of years ago about Palestine, or about the West Bank, excuse me. And... Speaker 1 (7:28) It's an interesting collection. I mean, very international collection. I think it kind of speaks to the lack of starry lineup that appeared at Venice this year. I also find that the awards at the Venice Film Festival are often a little bit strange that they, of course, famously gave the Golden Lion to Joker. Speaker 2 (7:43) Yeah. Have Speaker 1 (7:43) you Speaker 2 (7:44) seen Joker? No. Speaker 1 (7:45) Do you think you'll see it? Speaker 3 (7:46) Maybe. Anything could happen. Speaker 1 (7:48) What are you waiting for? Speaker 3 (7:50) I got to get through season four of Reacher. Speaker 1 (7:53) Are you watching Reacher? I Speaker 3 (7:54) love Reacher so much. I would die for that man. Speaker 1 (7:57) Alan Richson or the character Jack Reacher? Speaker 3 (7:59) The character Jack Reacher. Alan Richson also seems really lovely. Speaker 1 (8:03) What appeal does Reacher hold for you? Speaker 3 (8:05) Okay, I'm so glad you asked. It has like a brand of humor I really enjoy. And also there's like a sort of like an expertise porn or like maybe also a hulking strength porn, but kind of both. Like he knows everything because he was like a military police chief or something. Sorry if that's wrong. Who cares? It doesn't matter. And he can beat everybody up. And I find it very satisfying. Speaker 1 (8:29) Okay. Speaker 3 (8:29) Have Speaker 1 (8:30) you seen Reacher? Speaker 2 (8:31) No, but I've Speaker 3 (8:32) seen Speaker 2 (8:32) that actor in other films. I know that he had sort of like a world star incident recently. What? Didn't he like get in a fight with someone or he saved someone from a fight? Can anyone help me out of the booth? The Speaker 1 (8:45) only thing I know is that he's getting divorced. Speaker 2 (8:47) And then he's getting divorced after. You don't say. He's also very Speaker 1 (8:50) vociferously anti-Trump. And is known for going on podcasts and railing against the industry. Speaker 2 (8:55) And also very Christian. Speaker 1 (8:55) And very Christian. So you're Speaker 2 (8:56) saying he is about to be on the market. You guys missed this? That's Speaker 1 (9:00) correct. Speaker 2 (9:00) Yeah. Okay. Speaker 1 (9:01) Or I was saying Speaker 3 (9:02) that's Speaker 2 (9:02) correct. He got Speaker 1 (9:03) into a fight. I'll tell you who I wouldn't get into a fight with is Alan Richson. He's like 6'6", 280. He's huge. If he's listening. You're interested. I'm interested. Speaker 3 (9:11) I'm available. Speaker 2 (9:12) Yeah. This happened in March. He was riding a motorcycle around a Tennessee neighborhood with his children. They Speaker 1 (9:20) were on his motorcycle? And then he got into a fight? Seems not ideal. Maybe it had Speaker 2 (9:24) a sidecar. That's downright Speaker 1 (9:25) Reacher-esque. You think he had a sidecar? Maybe. Double sidecar? Speaker 2 (9:29) Wow, Speaker 1 (9:29) that's pretty funny. Just Speaker 3 (9:30) two small children Speaker 1 (9:30) and one sidecar. Speaker 2 (9:31) Can I say just one more thing about Woman Unknown? Which is just that, so... Speaker 1 (9:35) It's been eight minutes. Speaker 2 (9:37) Listen, we had to investigate what's going on in Alan Richeson's personal life. So along with Fjord, so the European film festivals have given the top prize to movies set in Scandinavia dealing with social morals and whether Scandinavians can be trusted. And that's really just, I wanted to point that out. Okay, good. There we go. Speaker 3 (9:59) Denmark is Danish. Yeah, I think so. I get this wrong quite a bit. Speaker 1 (10:03) That's correct. Holland is the Dutch. Yes. Shoes. Speaker 2 (10:08) Shoes. Among other things. Speaker 1 (10:09) Let's not reduce these entire nations to broad cultural artifacts. Just pointing Speaker 2 (10:14) it out. That's all. Speaker 1 (10:15) Okay. Well, thanks for sharing. Let's stay in Europe, why don't we? Great. Let's speak of Oasis, Don't Look Back in Anger. I Speaker 2 (10:23) mean, Europe is complicated. With respect to Oasis now, right? Are they in Europe? Speaker 3 (10:28) You know, you want to wade into that one? Did we not Brexit? Speaker 1 (10:31) We did Brexit, I suppose. Did they play any other shows in any other European nations in that film? I know they played shows in the United States and in Asia. Were there any other European performances? They're definitely Speaker 2 (10:41) in Brazil at one Speaker 1 (10:43) point. Speaker 2 (10:43) Brazil, that's right, of course. Are they... Oh, you Speaker 3 (10:47) guys, you're going to feel real stupid. Ireland. Oh, yes. Speaker 1 (10:50) Famously. Ireland did not Brexit. Famously, not the US. Yes, yes. Can't wait to talk about that. So this movie, which you did see in Venice. I sure did. And Speaker 2 (10:58) you briefly Speaker 1 (10:58) reported on. And then Yossi and I got a chance to go see it this weekend. And Speaker 2 (11:01) put it on my top five. Unlike Woman Unknown. Speaker 1 (11:04) Yes. And I think very understandably, having now seen the film, which I thought was absolutely delightful. Venice, Speaker 3 (11:08) give Oasis the golden lion. Is that what it's called? You cowards. Was this Speaker 1 (11:12) film in competition? It was not. No. Speaker 3 (11:14) Well, it should have been. Speaker 1 (11:15) It's directed by Will Lovelace and Dylan Southern, who are a pair of documentarians who've made a few films sort of like this. They made the Meet Me in the Bathroom film. They made LCD Play the Hits. A couple of other, I would say, millennial Gen X coded music docs. Speaker 1 (11:33) And this movie is about Oasis reuniting. And Liam and Noel, after many, many years, I think, is it 17 years of not playing together? Reuniting and including bringing other members of the band, bringing Bonehead back into the band. Bonehead J. If you Speaker 3 (11:50) will. Speaker 1 (11:50) And touring the world and changing people's lives. And, you know, I've been thinking back on my relationship to Oasis. Okay, great. Speaker 2 (11:58) Because that's what this film demands, right? Sure. Speaker 1 (12:00) I didn't get a chance to see them. Perform live like you guys did. And I was sad about that. I still don't really know why that didn't happen since I live 15 minutes from the Rose Bowl. Speaker 2 (12:10) 45 on foot, which is what happens after you see a show at the Rose Bowl. Oh, you Speaker 1 (12:13) walked home? Speaker 2 (12:14) You got to walk all the way out of there. Oh, yeah. You have to walk back to Speaker 3 (12:17) Pasadena. It sounds like you didn't try hard enough, if I'm being honest. Speaker 1 (12:20) As I recall, it was an extremely busy period in my life. That's all I'll say. With a minimal amount of childcare in my life. So we were short on babysitters. I think it was like Speaker 2 (12:30) the week after Telluride also. Because it was very soon after we went to Venice. I think it was Speaker 3 (12:35) like Speaker 2 (12:35) early September. It was right Speaker 3 (12:36) when I got back. Because I came back from that long, right after Venice. And I went straight to the Oasis show. Yes, same. This is Speaker 1 (12:42) a fairly quick turnaround for this movie. And this was a hugely anticipated thing for fans. But as a teenager. I remember very vividly loving the band, buying the first record, and listen, burning it out. And that's all before What's the Story of Morning Glory. And being, I had a good friend of mine, Ryan, in high school, was very NME-pilled. Speaker 3 (13:06) And Speaker 1 (13:06) his mother was English. And he knew about a lot of British bands. And he was like very early on the strokes because he was reading the British music press. And he was very into Oasis. And then I think he became maybe more of a Blur person and I stuck with Oasis. And I never really totally got into Blur until I got older. But you know when you just have like a youthful sense memory and something comes pouring back? Speaker 3 (13:29) Yeah. I feel like this movie was just a two-hour sense Speaker 1 (13:31) memory, you know, of just like passionate love for CDs that I listened to over and over again while playing video games in my mom's basement. Speaker 2 (13:39) And Speaker 1 (13:40) God, this movie was just so satisfying and beautiful and fun. That's my review. Speaker 2 (13:45) I mean, 1,000 % agree, but we know that. Yossi? Speaker 3 (13:49) Dudes Speaker 2 (13:49) rock. Speaker 3 (13:50) Music is amazing. Fandom is gorgeous. You can have it all, but how much do you want it? It was a perfect film. Five out of five. Ten out of ten. A Speaker 1 (14:00) big conceit of the movie is this kind of twinned approach between the union of Noel and Liam and showing how their personalities are different and how they're still brothers and they're still connected. And then showing how their music has really affected multiple generations of fans, which I thought was an obvious but brilliant conceit because it gives the movie so much emotionality. And then we don't have to depend too much. on Liam and Noel being clever about themselves, which is something they're very good at, but that usually works best, I find, in small bursts. Right, and Speaker 2 (14:29) they get one recording of Noel admiring Liam and one of Liam being like, this kid wrote the songs, and they, you know, like where they, but you only have a minute from each of them, which can't sustain an entire documentary, so they pad it out. Speaker 1 (14:46) Yeah, so they bounce from city to city, and essentially, Like each song more or less gets a city. Speaker 3 (14:54) Yeah. And Speaker 1 (14:55) you get to use that as a portal into the dynamics of the song, what the song is about, what the history of it is, how it relates to the history of the band. There can be different kind of strains of storytelling. Like there's a strain that's about Bonehead. There's a strain that's about their Irish heritage. There's a strain that's about a fan who's traveled a long distance to come see them play. What did you think about that dynamic? I Speaker 3 (15:16) thought it was so brilliant the way that they like. did the connective tissue between the beats. Like, it could have been, like, they could have really gone heavy-handed with it with the emotionality. Like, but for example, like, I'm thinking about one of the beats, which was a, I believe it was, like, a kid, like, a teenager with autism whose mother was talking about how he never spoke until he asked for a talk tonight. And, like, I cried. But also, like, they didn't. They didn't beat it into the ground, right? It was so... It was just... Speaker 1 (15:51) Like Speaker 3 (15:51) two minutes. Two minutes, very brief, because also that's not the tone and tenor of Oasis. Like, they're not sincere and emotional. I mean, the music is, but they as a band... That is one of their most Speaker 1 (16:01) emotional songs. That's Speaker 3 (16:03) a Speaker 1 (16:03) very unusual Oasis song. Acoustic, Noel singing. It's one of my favorite songs, but it's an interesting thing because... I thought of the Oasis Supersonic documentary, which is a movie that came out seven or eight years ago. Fantastic. Great film. Speaker 2 (16:14) But Speaker 1 (16:15) that film spends a lot of time explaining the context of that song, which is this moment where there's this horrible show in L.A. where it seems like the band's about to break up. They do Speaker 3 (16:23) a bunch of cocaine. Actually, it was meth. Speaker 1 (16:25) Yes, they got very, very fucked up. Noel panics. Noel absconds to San Francisco. He Speaker 3 (16:28) leaves. Speaker 1 (16:28) He goes to San Francisco and disappears for a few days. And he meets this girl. And he kind of like has a... weekend fling slash falls in love with this girl and he writes this song about this time that he has with this girl which kind of lets him like reconstitute his feelings about the band none of that is in this movie it's just about this kid's relationship to that song which is I thought was just such a nice choice because this Speaker 3 (16:48) film that's my other thing where I think they were really restrained is like you know how much b-roll and back old archival footage there is of Oasis They didn't use that much because that's not what this movie is about, right? It's not about the past. It's about the present and like it coming into our lives again. And I thought that was really smart and cool, too. Speaker 2 (17:07) It's also really well chosen what they use in the present. And that is the autistic child is the most moving example. But every single interstitial kind of every single fan that they illuminate you. And I found myself even bracing. There's like. 10 seconds of someone with a sign and you think it's sort of the generic, like, I love Oasis so much, like outside of a crowd type thing. And it feels, or I was worried that it was kind of like. traditional fan documentary. And every single example, whether there's a twist or something quirky, the Bonehead one is about how she loves, she's just voiceover about how much she loves Bonehead. And then it's her dog who's named Bonehead. Really funny and very clever. And so they're even using these very traditional music documentary tropes, but in a smart and amusing way. And I think what's Speaker 3 (17:57) really genius about it, it's like twofold. Like one is that like, as you know, we experienced the shows and like, The London show was, I made a really questionable decision that ultimately paid off. Okay. Just flying to Speaker 1 (18:11) London to go see them play. Speaker 3 (18:12) With a fan who I'd never met. Speaker 1 (18:14) Whoa. Named Chad. Oh, I forgot about this. Yes. Speaker 3 (18:17) Bless you, Chad. And his friend Joe. Speaker 1 (18:19) Did he invite you? Speaker 3 (18:20) Yeah, Speaker 1 (18:20) that's right. Okay. Speaker 3 (18:21) Yeah. And I was like, you know what? It's Speaker 1 (18:23) a Speaker 3 (18:23) miracle Speaker 1 (18:23) you're alive. It's an Speaker 3 (18:24) absolute miracle. I was like, I was like. Pinned an air tag to my chest, you know, padding to note, please take care of this Yossi going into the night. We were sharing locations. But Speaker 2 (18:34) it Speaker 3 (18:35) was important. Again, no risk, no reward. It was the best night of my life. I landed. It was, oh, it was your birthday party. Remember, I stayed an extra day because it was your birthday party. Yes, that's right. Speaker 2 (18:46) Because this was the big talk of that night was like, what safety precautions should I take? Listen, let's be real. Chad turned out to be one of the great ones. He was okay, yeah. Joe Speaker 3 (18:57) is my roll dog for life now. So I flew in the day of the show. Okay. Speaker 1 (19:04) Very risky. Speaker 3 (19:05) Very risky. But I couldn't miss Amanda's birthday. Speaker 2 (19:07) Of course. Speaker 3 (19:08) Off the plane, straight to the Standard Hotel. Shout out. One of my favorite places to stay in London. Meeting up with Joe and Chad. And thank God my friend Lindsay Hartman and her girlfriend were there. So I also had my girls. And we hit, you know, we... The entire city was like on fire with Oasis. Like everywhere you went, people, the whole tube was just people decked out in their Oasis gear, singing the songs. We like walking up to Wembley, we stopped for a drink in a bar where an Oasis cover band was playing and everyone's singing along and having drinks, going to Wembley. It was just, you know, I thought it was really smart that they didn't cover the openers in this, but like Richard Ashcroft opened in London. Speaker 1 (19:47) Oh, Speaker 3 (19:47) interesting. And he's amazing. He played Verve songs. Like Joe, who was... probably 6'5 and 300 pounds weeping behind me. Did I meet a group of gorgeous young British men and befriend them? Yeah. Speaker 2 (20:01) Yeah. Sure did. Speaker 3 (20:02) Did Joe accidentally partake in a powdered substance that he thought was a different powdered substance, which rendered him immobile and thus somehow became my responsibility because Chad absconded into the night? Oh, I had forgotten that part. Okay. Speaker 1 (20:21) I don't think I've heard this story before. Six foot five, 300 Speaker 3 (20:22) pounds. Me and Lindsay Hartman, one arm over, escorting this man outside of Wembley. What do we do? Still, again, people were crying. I was like in the pit, arms around people I'd never met. You know, we're jumping up and down, beers being splashed everywhere. It was magic. Like, it was just the energy. I've never felt anything like it. Wow. And the... Sorry to bring it back to the documentary. I really think the documentary captured that. Like, I felt like I was back there. I was like, they nailed it. It wasn't hyperbole. Like, that's what it was like. Speaker 2 (20:54) I went to the Rose Bowl shows in Pasadena, which you also did. But you were you were general admission. Yeah. Speaker 3 (21:00) And Speaker 2 (21:00) I was not. Speaker 3 (21:00) Yeah. Speaker 2 (21:01) I thought the documentary was more fun than the Rose Bowl show. I don't want to be negative towards Los Speaker 3 (21:06) Angeles, but the Rose Bowl show was a little like. people being cool guy and a little like people were like, I just want to go to the show because it's the cool thing to do. A little bit less. I mean, it's also to England. This is the pride of England. It was the Speaker 2 (21:18) end of the tour also and we're on the later side. And so, I mean, that's the other thing about the documentary is just the filmed concert footage of all the different performances and the edit is amazing. And so, you see a lot that we did not get at Pasadena. Both guys just seemed a lot more emotionally present at those early shows than they were in... Well, Speaker 3 (21:38) I Speaker 2 (21:38) think that's also the crowds. Like, I think Speaker 3 (21:40) it Speaker 2 (21:40) was so Speaker 3 (21:40) smart of them to focus on Mexico City and Brazil because nobody loves rock music more than Mexico City and Brazil. Yeah. Speaker 1 (21:46) They Speaker 3 (21:46) will die for it. And those crowds were on fire. Like, it was crazy. Yeah. But I feel like the second smart thing that this... Well, I don't know if it was smart, but... What Oasis is about to me, like, and as someone who has spent months and months of my life researching Oasis, is they are the people's princesses, right? They make broad music for everybody, anthemic music. And it's about, like, it's about broadness. And I think you saw in this documentary that it's really about what it is to just be a fan and love music. It wasn't so granular. You know, it was just like... This is how moving music and bands can be. Speaker 1 (22:29) You're right. And it did capture that. One of my favorite moments of the movie is when the British chap is outside when the announcement is made. And he's like, I got to get out me Fred Perry. And they're laughing at him. And he's like, I'm serious. I have to get it out. This is a huge deal. And there is obviously a lot of national identity built up in there. And it is about... interpersonal relationships and individual people's relationships to a certain kind of music. But it did give me like some of that nerdy music documentary stuff that I want, like the exploration of some might say and like what that song was about and their Irish heritage and then playing, you know, talking about the Paul Kelly song, Old Triangle. And, you know, that's like some old, some normal. Music documentary stuff that isn't just about like rocking out at a concert. How Speaker 3 (23:20) great was that part? Like my roommate leaned over to me and we were all together in Oasis jerseys and she was like, Irish Zionism. And I was like, period. It was. Well, there's Speaker 1 (23:30) that great, is it the Liam quote where he's like, no, it's Noel. He's like the Irish are the only race that can cry, laugh, drink, Speaker 3 (23:39) smoke, Speaker 1 (23:41) drink all at the same time. Also, Speaker 3 (23:42) I'm sorry. I said it before and I'll say it again. They should have let me smoke cigarettes in the screening of this Oasis documentary. Okay. Speaker 1 (23:49) Did you try? No. Okay. But Speaker 3 (23:51) they should have let me. Would that Speaker 2 (23:52) be possible in the UK anywhere? Like in Manchester? Oh Speaker 3 (23:55) my God. Speaker 2 (23:55) You guys, billion Speaker 3 (23:56) dollar idea. Can someone open a smoking theater? Speaker 1 (24:00) I feel like that's not healthy for the screen and the speakers. Speaker 2 (24:03) All right. The tech nerd weighs Speaker 1 (24:05) in immediately. Speaker 3 (24:06) Okay. Such Speaker 1 (24:07) a well-blanket. I don't need to. I'm not really a part of the smoking revolution. I'm good. I'm trying to. Speaker 3 (24:12) You don't have to come. You can go to the regular AMCI mass or whatever. Are you Speaker 1 (24:16) guys funding the smoke screen? Like that's what it's called. Yeah. I'm Speaker 3 (24:20) open to investors. We're getting sponsors. I Speaker 2 (24:24) would Speaker 3 (24:26) love to partner with you on the smoke screen, a new series of theaters where you can smoke cigarettes. Wait, Speaker 2 (24:31) can we just, can we talk about the Noel and Liam of it all? It's so beautiful. It's really, really. I was relieved Speaker 1 (24:38) that they both allowed themselves to be sincere about it. Right. Because I did worry a little bit. Yeah, but they both gave you enough, you know, like Liam especially, you know, Liam is a fucking rollercoaster man. And Liam has had some troubles, like Liam in the post-breakup. Yeah. Things were a little dodgy there for a while. Yeah. He obviously is still like. a beautiful person and like a one of one elite front man. He is truly fascinating Speaker 3 (25:04) people. He's like pure id. I've never experienced anything like it. He's Speaker 2 (25:08) so important to me. Speaker 3 (25:08) Yes, I Speaker 1 (25:09) know. Speaker 3 (25:09) He's very Amanda Codd. He's Speaker 1 (25:10) an Speaker 2 (25:10) inspiration. I'm Speaker 1 (25:11) so Speaker 2 (25:11) connected to him. You have to try Speaker 3 (25:13) really hard to not care. Yeah. This much. Speaker 1 (25:16) Yeah. To not give a fuck. Yeah. Noel, of course, has not changed that much. I would say he's more or less the same person, which is like. Really somewhere between that very ordinary council estate, lower middle class kid and deep thinker, like music obsessed kid, like laying on the carpet in his bedroom, listening to every record ever and kind of figuring out like song structures. And he's Speaker 3 (25:44) I