‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips!

The Big Picture

Sean Fennessey and Chris Ryan dive into Zack Cregger's wildly entertaining 'Resident Evil' adaptation, celebrating its gory, comedic, and cinematic brilliance. They open with movie news

Key takeaways

• Zack Cregger's 'Resident Evil' masterfully blends extreme gore with sharp comedy, defying expectations for a video game adaptation.
• The film succeeds where others fail by embracing its absurdity without taking itself too seriously.

Main topics

• Zack Cregger's 'Resident Evil' movie review
• Horror-comedy genre challenges and successes

Notable quotes

'It's the most Tic-Tac-Toe movie of the year for me.'

Conclusion

'Resident Evil' stands as one of the year's most exhilarating genre films—a rare blend of horror,

Transcript preview

Speaker 1 (0:05) Quick reminder, tickets go on sale tomorrow or today, depending on when you're listening to this, for The Big Picture live in San Francisco. Speaker 3 (0:12) We'll be at ACT's Tony Rambi Theater on Wednesday, October 21st, and tickets will be available Friday, September 18th, beginning at 11 a.m. Pacific time. Speaker 1 (0:20) Head to theringer.com slash events for all the details. We'll see you there. Speaker 3 (0:35) I'm Sean Fennessey and this is The Big Picture, a conversation show about evil. Resident Evil. On today's episode, Chris Ryan joins me to discuss one of our most anticipated movies of the year and the official kickoff of horror movie season. It's Zack Kreger's new adaptation of the long-running video game Resident Evil. It's a gory, goofy, and glorious movie and we will break it all down as well as the history of horror comedy on the show. But first, some movie news right after this. Speaker 3 (1:01) This episode is presented by State Farm. You know the feeling. Long day, good meal, you finally sit down, and now you're just staring at your screen. Slasher, rom-com, period drama, psychological thriller. But some decisions don't have to be that hard. State Farm is here to help. Like when you choose to bundle and save with the personal price plan. Bundling, just another way to save with the personal price plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state. Speaker 2 (1:35) Okay, CR. What's up, brother? Speaker 3 (1:36) How are you? Speaker 2 (1:37) I'm really good. Speaker 3 (1:38) You're really feeling up for this? Speaker 2 (1:40) I'm still coming out on the post-Resident Evil screening vibe. I'm still vibrating off that. I Speaker 3 (1:47) do want to tell the story of our screening together and apart. But before we do that, I have some news that I want to talk to you about. Speaker 2 (1:54) Absolutely. Speaker 3 (1:54) Some of which I would consider very consequential, some of which feels minor. I think what I consider major, you might consider minor and vice versa. Oh, okay. So, I want to start with Noah Baumbach. Noel Baumbach, who has been making movies for the Netflix Corporation for the last eight years, four features in eight years, on an exclusive deal. It was announced this morning he's leaving Netflix to go make a movie for Clockwork, which is the new indie shingle imprint at Warner Brothers. I mean, at least for now. Who knows what's going to happen with the merger? Speaker 2 (2:22) Yes. Speaker 3 (2:22) But Clockwork, which is run by Christian Parks, who for years worked at Neon and is a figure in the L.A. movie scene. Speaker 3 (2:31) You know, they made their mark initially by getting the restoration of Ken Russell's The Devils back in the theaters, which is coming in October. And they've announced a bunch of new projects with a bunch of new filmmakers over the next 14 months. Baumbach's the next name on the list. You say what? Speaker 2 (2:46) I'm excited to see Noah Baumbach tested by the box office. Speaker 1 (2:50) I Speaker 2 (2:51) think iron sharpens iron in a way. And I in no way care whether his movies make $2 million or $25 million. But there is a Netflix cocoon. around a group of directors, and I'd like to see them out on an even playing field and maybe singing for their supper a little bit more. Does that seem cruel to say that? No. Speaker 3 (3:12) It's interesting that it's coming in the aftermath of two of Baumbach's more elevated productions, I would say, in White Noise and in J. Kelly, and two movies that were not received as well as a lot of his previous work. I think his first two movies for Netflix, Meyerowitz Stories and especially Marriage Story, are very well-liked, celebrated. I'm a fan of all four of those movies, and I'm really on a short list of people, I think, who are really at least interested in White Noise and Jay Kelly. But this is interesting to me for a variety of reasons because it feels like shifting ties at Netflix when it comes to the movie stuff. This comes at the same time that Bombeck's partner, Greta Gerwig, there were some new announcements of the Narnia film, which I think Amanda and I will talk about more on Monday. It feels like Guillermo del Toro and David Fincher are the last two guys. Speaker 2 (3:57) Who are like in-house talent. Speaker 3 (3:58) Yes, who are in that inner ring, that inner circle of everything that they do comes out of Netflix and that they have a blank check to make whatever kind of a movie that they want. And they seem content with that. And there's a new film administration there. And then this comes on the heels of news that Skydance Animation, which is owned by Paramount, of course. is now severing its deal or Netflix is severing its deal with Skydance Animation. So David Ellison is Speaker 2 (4:24) dragging Speaker 3 (4:25) that bit of property back after a couple of animated features that didn't totally work, although they still have another one coming out this year called Ray Gunn from Brad Bird and John Lasseter who runs Skydance Animation. And I don't totally, I mean, I feel like I've been saying this for seven years, but I don't totally know what Netflix film is right now. Speaker 2 (4:45) I think that there's probably more chapters to be written in this story. I was sounding a similarly concerned alarm about their TV strategy maybe 18 months ago. And I think they've gotten some different folks in there and started to realize that they've left a lot on the table by ceding all of prestige to HBO and Apple. I think that they're starting to do more and more projects. East of Eden is coming out in October. It was announced that Zoe Kazan is going to do Lonesome Dove Speaker 3 (5:13) for Speaker 2 (5:14) Netflix. I think that they are looking at a lot of literary projects to develop that seem like what would have traditionally been in HBO's Ballywick. What I want to know about Clockwork is how contingent is this on all of the things that are happening with Warnermount? I Speaker 3 (5:32) don't know. Before we get into that, I feel like maybe Netflix is doing the inversion of what you're pointing out on the film side. Speaker 2 (5:39) Yeah. Where Speaker 3 (5:39) a lot of the money and time that was spent on prestige on the film side is now being moved toward your programmer-style movies. Your Whispermen. Speaker 2 (5:49) The Rip. Speaker 3 (5:49) Your People We Meet on Vacation. The Rip. the forthcoming Animals from Ben Affleck, which is more of just like a, you know, it's Speaker 2 (5:55) a Speaker 3 (5:55) programmer. It's not a high prestige. It's a movie that didn't play film festivals. And maybe you can put... Narnia in that basket as well. It's unclear to me what that proposition actually represents for the future of Netflix, so we will talk about it a little bit. But to your point about Clockwork, it's really interesting because they've got a bunch of movies now. They've got the new Mary Bronson movie, Nasty, which stars a reunion with Rose Byrne from If I Had Legs I'd Kick You, and Jenna Ortega's in it, and it's produced by Margot Robbie's Lucky Chap. Then you've got Tiamo, which is Sean Baker's follow-up to Enora, which is a pretty big movie. Then you've got The Brigands of Rattle Creek. which is some heavy me and you core. Holy Speaker 2 (6:34) shit, dude. Speaker 3 (6:34) Which is Park Chan-wook's first English language film since Stoker, written by S. Craig Zoller, starring this cast, Austin Butler, Matthew McConaughey, Pedro Pascal, Adele Exarchopoulos, and Tang Wei. Speaker 2 (6:44) Yeah, and Butler and Adele play a married couple in this. So, Speaker 3 (6:48) you Speaker 2 (6:49) know, that's Speaker 3 (6:49) four really exciting movies when you tack on a new Noah Baumbach movie onto it. And it seems like all of these movies are coming probably in the next year and a half. What is Warner Mount? happening or not happening mean for it? I have no idea. Speaker 2 (7:02) Yeah, me neither. I mean, it seems like HBO on the TV side rolls along unencumbered by nerves about whether or not they're going to be operating out of Nashville in 2028 or whatever. So I was asking you off mic, like, oh, how much of this is like saber rattling with like the announcement that Ellison was essentially looking at office space in Nashville and was like seriously, you know. Yeah, like filing paperwork. Suggesting that they're going to move Paramount to Tennessee. It's just hard for me to imagine a debt-laden company that is consolidating the Hollywood business map, being like, what we also want to do is have an indie shingle that is like, auteur-friendly. Yeah. There was one other thing I wanted... Speaker 3 (7:45) Well, I'll make a point about that, though. Because if... David Ellison is serious about 30 films a year. He's got to get them somewhere. Not all those movies can be $100 million event films. Some of them have to be $5 million movies that are being run by a studio, but that are getting relatively wide distribution. So you could make the case that Clockwork is actually a savvier business model heading into than trying to make four Sonic the Hedgehog spinoffs in two years to meet some sort of quota that they agreed to. Well, Speaker 2 (8:11) you can't Speaker 3 (8:11) wait Speaker 2 (8:11) around for Matt Reeves to make Batman movies, right? That's right. So as they sort of are trying to decide, like, is the reward versus the risk with maybe some of the DC stuff after Supergirl. The only other interesting note with the Baumbach thing is that if I read Matt Bellany correctly over the last couple of months, Baumbach and Gerwig are currently mired in negotiations to get a really good payday to come back to Barbie. That's a Warner Brothers property. Speaker 2 (8:42) Now, Baumbach is back with a part of Warner Brothers, but Speaker 3 (8:46) not Speaker 2 (8:46) doing Barbie Speaker 3 (8:47) with Warner Brothers. Speaker 2 (8:48) It's just interesting. Like, does one hand know what the other is doing? Is it kind of like... Usually it does. Yeah, of course. Speaker 3 (8:54) I suspect that there's... The same thought crossed my mind. And I think there's a little bit to that. And it's reasonable to assume. And also, Noah Baumbach probably doesn't feel like he needs to make a $50 million proper Warner Brothers. feature film. I mean, most of his movies are relatively scaled down and they fit nicely in this model. So I thought that that was fascinating. And this is also somewhat related to the Netflix film strategy long term. But it was announced this week that Quentin Tarantino is publishing another novel, a new novel, another Cliff Booth novel that is coming out on December 8th, which is between the Netflix IMAX theatrical release of The Further Misadventures of Cliff Booth Speaker 2 (9:29) and Speaker 3 (9:29) the streaming release of the film, which is at the end of December. The logline of that book is the swinging 60s are long gone, but Clifford Booth keeps on keeping on war hero, stuntman, bartender, cinema projectionist with the occasional clandestine services for his friends. Speaker 2 (9:46) Oh, you know, I was just talking with Chuck Klosterman on the watch about his book Rock, which is coming out next week. And everybody listening should. should check that book out. It's awesome. I think it would actually really appeal to big picture listeners. And it's an alternative history of rock and roll if the Velvet Underground had basically usurped the Beatles in 1967 and become the biggest band. You know what I haven't really been thinking about with the further misadventures of Cliff Booth? is the ripple effect of Manson stuff, like of like whether or not this movie is going to engage with the idea that, that that happened at the end of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, which is sort of a stupid lore question. Like, I don't really care one way or the other, but is this a different America that this movie is made in? It's Speaker 3 (10:29) a great question. I mean, I believe this new film is set in 1977, which is eight years after the events of the first film. And so. Speaker 3 (10:38) is Star Wars coming out? You know, like, I don't know. In this world, like, it's Speaker 2 (10:43) totally Speaker 3 (10:43) unclear what could be in play. And the same goes for the book, which we don't really know what it's going to be. But obviously, Quentin is content to fuck with history and how we understand it. And so I look forward to that. I really liked the novelization of the movie that he wrote a few years back. Yeah, Speaker 2 (10:59) we did that together. We did. Speaker 3 (11:00) And we spoke with him about it. And that was a lot of fun. And so I will say, though, the Cliff Booth thing in general is just bizarre. There's still not a trailer. There's a 12-second teaser that's available on YouTube. Speaker 2 (11:11) Something Speaker 3 (11:11) went up and got Speaker 2 (11:12) pulled down over the weekend, right? I think something that Speaker 3 (11:13) was not meant to be published was published somewhere. And we are... It's close. Two months out from the movie. I mean, the movie's coming out in two... This is a David Fincher, Quentin Tarantino, Brad Pitt movie coming out in two months on IMAX screens over the Thanksgiving holiday. I don't know anybody who's seen it. I don't really know anything about it other than who's in it and what the logline is. It's fascinating. I'll Speaker 2 (11:35) just say that based on our experience with Resident Evil, which had a teaser and a trailer, the screenings happening just like 48 hours before the movie is released, that I have changed my tune about how much lead time I need to get excited about a movie. It's Quentin Tarantino and David Fincher. Completely. If they want to... film like water running into an LA sewer, I'll probably be like, good movie. Speaker 3 (12:01) No, it's smart. And I'm just addicted to knowing things. And I don't know what to do about that. It's something that has become a big part of the show and just talking about what we're hearing about what's happening in the world. And I hear a Speaker 2 (12:12) lot now. That's the thing is like, I Speaker 3 (12:13) hear way more now than I did 10 years ago. Yes, I'm windhorstian, but I'm not a reporter. I'm just a person who is told things. Not been told much about this one. So very, very curious to see what it's like. And, you know, obviously I'll be there opening day. Speaker 2 (12:27) I was wondering about this because the tracking for Digger has come out and it's pretty low. It is. And I'm starting to lose my ability to like, I can tell how I feel about a movie based on a trailer. I can tell whether I think it's got it or it doesn't have it. But I'm starting to not really understand like the Resident Evil box office predictions are like crazy good. Yeah. Is that just, we'll get into that conversation, but like I'm starting to lose my ability to sort of. Speaker 3 (12:56) The Digger one doesn't surprise me. I think one, you've got Tom Cruise unrecognizable. Two, you've got a very ornate production style that looks very unusual with a tone that's really hard to pull off in a like a strange lovey and satire. And I think people don't totally understand what the movie is about by watching the trailer. They were very circumspect about what the movie was for a very long period of time and confused people a little bit. Comedy in theaters these days is no sure thing and a little bit of Speaker 2 (13:23) a Speaker 3 (13:23) tough Speaker 2 (13:23) sell. Speaker 3 (13:23) They have that Speaker 2 (13:24) on the poster. And they put it on the Speaker 3 (13:25) poster. So I think there are a variety of factors that are technically working against it. I mean, Ina Ritu is not exactly the Revenant, notwithstanding a massive box office draw. Sure. So you put all that in a stew together and it's not stunning. To me, this is actually a movie where word of mouth and reviews really matters. If critics like it and the first wave of people that see it dig it, then you could see it having some likes. If not, it's going to feel like an awards play. You know, our buddy Zach Barron sat down with TC. He did. This week. I mean, what an astonishing get by him. Fascinating conversation. Have no clue what the man was speaking about. But kudos to Zach for doing his damnedest to get him to say something. Do Speaker 2 (14:00) you have any thoughts Speaker 3 (14:00) about Speaker 2 (14:00) what TC was talking about with Taylor at the Chiefs game on Monday? Speaker 3 (14:05) I mean, I have to assume it's Kenneth Walker's usage, right? Frontier Labs? Speaker 2 (14:09) Like, what did it pull back? Speaker 3 (14:11) I don't know. I personally worry about what can happen when those two put their powers together, but I'm not going to spend too much time thinking about it. Cruz, I think he's banking on a Best Actor nomination that might not be there. Speaker 2 (14:24) Yeah. We'll see. We shall see. It's a tough race this year. Speaker 3 (14:27) A couple of other quick things. TIFF is happening right now. Naaman will be on the show on Monday to give us his full report. However... We are at effectively the one-year anniversary of Obsession being acquired by Blumhouse Universal Focus out of TIFF last year for $15 million. Blumhouse has bought another movie for $10 million called River. Have you been following any of this? I have been from afar, so give me the Speaker 2 (14:50) download. Speaker 3 (14:51) This is a new movie that apparently the independent film company already had and gave up on an auction. Yes. What was ready Speaker 2 (14:58) for Shudder? I think it was Speaker 3 (14:59) meant to Speaker 2 (14:59) be a Speaker 3 (15:00) Shudder film and they showed it. And now because of some of the response to it, they brought it to the market. And it stars Jane Levy and Jessica Roth, two horror final girls of some note. And it follows three siblings who are stranded on a country boat who are stalked by a faceless killer. Speaker 2 (15:18) Let's do it. Good idea. Speaker 3 (15:20) Yeah. You're stuck on a boat and there's a killer coming after you? Interested. Speaker 3 (15:25) Apparently, this movie isn't getting nearly as good reviews as Obsession was. Obsession was a real sensation, and it seems like maybe the programming at the Midnight Madness section of TIFF this year is maybe not as strong as it was last year, but I'm intrigued. Speaker 2 (15:38) You and I have been victims of a Midnight Madness delirium. It's a case that affects many men around our age. We all go a Speaker 1 (15:45) little Speaker 2 (15:45) mad sometimes. And you're Speaker 1 (15:46) there at 1.30, Speaker 2 (15:47) and you're like, that's the best movie I've seen in five years. Yeah. And then it winds up on Amazon. We'll never live down the long Speaker 3 (15:52) shot screening or Atomic Blonde or any number of movies we can recall from our South by Southwest days. Speaker 2 (15:58) Okay, Speaker 3 (15:59) last bit of news, very CR coded. John Leguizamo joins Miami Vice 85. Now, I am not really a Miami Vice expert. I'm anticipating the film as a Joseph Kaczynski fan. What does this mean? Who is John Leguizamo playing? Is this good? I Speaker 2 (16:15) think the fact that it's called Miami Vice 85. is focus on the 85. So Dan Gilroy wrote this script. It is set in the heyday of Coke Miami and also the peak of Miami Vice as a TV show. I... I am venturing a guess that John Leguizamo is playing Calderon, who is the legendary drug dealer cartel leader in the first season, I believe. Second season, maybe, of Miami Vice. Got a two-part episode, Calderon's Return. I wonder whether or not they are pulling from that story. I am so excited for this movie on a variety of levels. Is Speaker 3 (16:54) it a good idea? to treat this faithfully as IP? Speaker 2 (17:00) I think that they'll probably pull from it, but I don't think they're going to recreate the two-part episode. I think it might just be a drug dealer is targeting Miami vice cops. I have also heard one more casting rumor that I'm very excited about. And so much like you Speaker 3 (17:18) won't be sharing it. Speaker 2 (17:18) People are coming to me. They're telling me things, but only about you. Is Speaker 3 (17:22) it Speaker 2 (17:22) just vice cops? Speaker 3 (17:24) There were vice cops calling you saying. Yeah, they pulled me over and they were Speaker 2 (17:27) like, hey, you know, you were driving perfectly. I just wanted to let you know. Speaker 2 (17:32) I Speaker 3 (17:33) saw your visage through the window, through the windshield, and I thought... I share your Speaker 2 (17:36) enthusiasm about Alden Ehrenreich getting cast. Speaker 3 (17:39) You can go on with your day. Well, you were right that he's not playing the villain in the movie, that obviously he's playing a different kind of part. Yeah. I'm looking forward to this movie, too. I've seen Miami Vice episodes, but I don't have the facility with that world that you do or that Bill does. Speaker 2 (17:55) It's a week-to-week show, so it's not really a necessary experience to go through and be like, did something happen in episode three that affects 11, but there are some serialized storylines and Calderon is one of the big ones. As Bill likes to also point out, there is like evil Crockett for a year where he like, you know, like loses it. Like Speaker 3 (18:14) Bizarro Superman? Kind of, yeah. Interesting. Okay. It's good to know. Hopefully they don't pivot to that in the first film. I don't think so. That Speaker 2 (18:20) would be Speaker 3 (18:20) confusing. Did we get any confirmation on... white Tubbs, black Crockett? Like, is that implied? No, that was just Speaker 2 (18:26) a little CR theory. I threw that out. I hand out winners. And I don't know if that's going to come true. I think we may get... I think these are the guys they're playing. Can Speaker 3 (18:36) you really put Michael B. Jordan's name behind Austin Butler's name on the poster? I Speaker 2 (18:40) just think Tubbs Speaker 3 (18:40) may Speaker 2 (18:40) have a more prominent role than Crockett. Speaker 3 (18:42) Or a Speaker 2 (18:43) 50-50 part. Speaker 3 (18:45) Tubbs is revenge. Speaker 2 (18:46) Yeah, Tubbs is revenge. Speaker 3 (18:48) Okay. Let's talk about Resident Evil. Speaker 2 (18:50) Okay. Speaker 3 (18:51) Let me give you a little primer for the audience at home. So this is the new film from Zack Kreger. It's his third feature film as director. The movie's co-written by Shea Hatton. It's based on the 1996 Capcom game for PlayStation called Resident Evil, which has had many sequels and spinoffs. This is the eighth film adaptation of this game series. The first six were Mila Jovovich, Paul W.S. Anderson joints. And Speaker 2 (19:16) I Speaker 3 (19:16) love her work. Talented actress. Not a big fan of those films personally, but they were pretty successful. And over those six movies, they made over a billion dollars. And Speaker 2 (19:26) have a cult following. Speaker 3 (19:27) They have a following for sure. There was a film in 2021 called Welcome to Raccoon City that Johannes Roberts made that did not lift off, especially because it was released during the pandemic and people didn't like it. So this is a reboot of a reboot. Stephen Speaker 2 (19:39) Amell is in that one? He is, yes. Speaker 3 (19:41) And that one is much more faithful to some of the core characters from the game. than this one is. This one is sort of an inspired by, not a strong adaptation featuring characters from the game. A couple of notes about it. One, the director of photography of this movie is 70-year-old Darius Wolski, who is best known, I think, recently for his work with Ridley Scott, but who is really in his The Crow, Dark City bag in this movie. Ryan and Hayes Holiday are back doing the score. I love the score of this movie. Austin Abrams is our star. He's one of the only people we really see in this film who's not a zombie. Callie Reese, Paul Walter Hauser, and a few surprises are also in the film. The logline is as follows. Brian, a medical courier, is in the process of making a delivery to Raccoon City General Hospital when an outbreak forces him to fight for survival. Now, Zack Kreger was on the show last year for Weapons. And I took a little bit of an attitude with him. I have some regrets about the attitude I took, but I was like... dude, why are you making a franchise movie? Like you just made weapons. This is incredible to do an original story that is, we didn't know it at the time, but I knew it would be such a success because I saw the response to the movie the first two times I saw it. And what he said is, this is not going to be at all like Barbarian and Weapons. It's going to be a rock'em, sock'em. It's for me to play. and turn my brain off and just make an Evil Dead 2 style movie and get crazy with the camera. It's a weird, fun, wild story. I'm doing it because I think this movie is going to be fucking awesome. Now, you and I went to go see the movie. at a screening at Century City earlier this week. And as they often do, they put us in, there were two screening rooms, Speaker 2 (21:25) room Speaker 3 (21:26) one and room two. And you texted me, you said, we're here, we're holding a seat for you. You're sitting in room one. And then they handed me my card and they said, you're in room two. And I tried to sneak into room one and they said, no, you have to go into room two. Yeah, Speaker 2 (21:36) they were very strict about it. I Speaker 3 (21:38) thought that was strange. Nevertheless, I had a nice time, sat with Mallory and Joanna at the screening. But as soon as the movie ended, I walked out of the screening. And we caught eyes. And we both were wide-eyed. And we knew. we got one. Something had happened. Speaker 2 (21:54) It Speaker 3 (21:54) was a moment of great connection. Now, it's not surprising that you and I would like a movie like this. We've been thinking about seeing this movie for a while. But I ask you now, why were you so wide-eyed when I came out of that screening? Speaker 2 (22:06) Because I had just experienced 90 minutes of feeling completely present with a work of art. If that's how you want to describe this, and maybe Zack Craig wouldn't because he's talking about it as like a thrill ride. I completely lost myself in this movie. It's Speaker 3 (22:22) so fucking awesome. Speaker 2 (22:24) And it made me feel, it really did grab that feeling of like youthful, like wonder at being inside of a movie. And I think I understand some of the mechanics of why that worked. Speaker 3 (22:38) Because Speaker 2 (22:39) I think rather than being IP as in like, we're going to adapt the lore and we're really about servicing like all the fans who are out there of this franchise. It's not that. But it's not a Trojan horse. It is not like, I kind of pulled a fast one where I went into Sony and talked them into letting me do this, but what it's really about is this. It's not about that either. It's about what would happen if a medical courier hit a zombie with his car and then had to fight for his life through the craziest fucking night ever. And it rules. And I want to be, like, I have so many things to say about this movie and why I think it works, but like, Do you want to laugh? Do you want to almost puke? Do you want to go crazy with fear? Like, do you want to feel every emotion you can feel as a person? Like, this movie does it in 87 minutes. Speaker 3 (23:30) It's wonderful. I cannot remember the last time I was in a movie, and I see so many goddamn movies, but I cannot remember the last time I was in a movie and felt, God, this is moving too fast. I don't want this to end. Every movie feels too long in 2026. This movie is about 87 minutes. And it is a go, go, go machine. I am not a Resident Evil player. So I'm not somebody who is watching the movie, looking for lore, looking for Easter eggs, hoping to spot things. But you have pointed this out to me. And this is something that I think Zach was attempting to accomplish. And for me, it feels like it works. it does give you the feeling of trying to play the game. And maybe trying to play the game for the first time, where you don't really know what you're doing. You're