Season Finale - Viewers Mailbag!

That’s Just How We Talk

In this season finale of That's Just How We Talk, hosts Gursimran and Ismeet Kohli answer a variety of viewer questions collected from Insta

Key takeaways

• Gursimran discusses receiving bot-driven backlash after expressing opinions on Gippy Grewal's impact on Punjabi cinema.
• Ismeet shares an embarrassing story about failing significantly during a televised quiz show due to poor general knowledge.

Main topics

• Viewer Mailbag
• Punjabi Cinema Controversy

Notable quotes

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Conclusion

A reflective and humorous episode that provides a deep dive into the h

Transcript preview

Speaker 2 (0:01) Make me so mad Speaker 1 (0:07) Hello and welcome to another episode of That's Just How We Talk. In this episode, we are doing, Ismeet, our first mailbag episode. Ismeet Kohli. Mailbag episode is when we ask questions. Also on Reddit, it is called Ask Me Anything. Where you can ask any question and we end up answering. I posted this story on Instagram. Guys, this is a mailbag episode. You can ask us anything and we will answer it. So a very good comment came from a guy. That, bro... Your lack of content and your content is over. Exactly. That is absolutely right. No, I'm just kidding. We thought of doing a mailbag episode for Speaker 2 (0:47) a long time. Speaker 1 (0:47) Why are Speaker 2 (0:47) you so Speaker 1 (0:47) early Speaker 2 (0:47) to come to the point? Speaker 1 (0:49) I'm setting up. I thought we'd warm Speaker 2 (0:52) up a bit. Carbs. Okay, Speaker 1 (0:54) I'll tell you the story Speaker 2 (0:55) of the Speaker 1 (0:55) warm-up. Warm-up story. Let's tell people about it. It's a very good story. You already know. I gave an interview on Chal Chitra Talks. My friend Weber, I'd done a long interview. Speaker 2 (1:06) Now, Speaker 1 (1:06) what happened? I've realised the difference of main interview and reel. There was a reel where I gave my opinion that I think Punjabi cinema is not growing because of Gipi Grewal. This was my opinion. This was my hot take. And I had said it was a hot take. And I genuinely believe this as a viewer because I love Punjabi cinema and I love watching movies. I force you too. And I feel that in Punjabi cinema, only one picture is being made repeatedly. So I said this. That the same actors are making the same picture. What happened now? On day one or two, nothing happened. People went for real. What Speaker 2 (1:40) happened on Speaker 1 (1:40) the third day? I got a lot of DMs. I can't name them. From Punjabi industry actors and directors and writers and quite prominent ones also. And I was Speaker 2 (1:52) getting Speaker 1 (1:52) messages saying, Thank God somebody said it, and thank God you said it. So then I got Speaker 2 (1:57) a little Speaker 1 (1:57) upset. I was like, what's going on? Like, why am I getting this? Then, Ismeet, which I had expected, happened after that. Which is, bot comments started coming under that reel. And in bot comments, it was, Who are you? It was like, what's your status, Gippy Paji? Questioning, etc. But basically, what happened was, Someone, I have realised, someone in the... PR team I can't be him himself somebody in the PR team basically said ki how dare they express an opinion about Punjabi cinema and wo chalchitra talks wali reel ke niche bot comments aare hain toh aadhe comments are people going yes 100 % agree with you and aadhe comments are how dare you say it us din mujhe bhot weird feel hua coz I'm like why does anybody give a shit about my opinion as a viewer nobody Speaker 2 (2:44) in the house gives a shit about his opinion Speaker 1 (2:49) So why do people who are lovers of Punjabi cinema give a shit about my opinions? This Speaker 2 (2:55) shows how depressed people are. That one voice and one... Maybe you are the Tukaram of Punjabi cinema. You will go and clean the industry. Speaker 1 (3:04) I have nothing to do with industry. I have no ambition in the industry. Speaker 2 (3:09) I have Speaker 1 (3:10) no ambition in the industry. I have no need to succeed in the industry. I am not angling for some role. You don't Speaker 2 (3:17) want to save an industry. That is asking for help. Speaker 1 (3:20) The industry is not asking for help. But I realized that I was shocked. I have never gotten these many messages. Speaker 2 (3:27) You Speaker 1 (3:27) have gotten messages from friends. Yeah, Speaker 2 (3:30) from people who are in the Punjab movie industry. I'm very far removed from it. So I couldn't understand what was happening. And obviously Gurusilvan had to give me context. And I found it very amusing. I found it very amusing. I found your reaction more amusing. Why do they care about my opinion? Yeah, I was Speaker 1 (3:46) like... I did not know that I'm an influencer in Punjab. So I was like, wow, what is happening? Speaker 2 (3:52) Every voice matters. Speaker 1 (3:53) Tell me Speaker 2 (3:54) the Speaker 1 (3:54) funniest thing. What Speaker 2 (3:55) did Speaker 1 (3:55) you think? All the bots, now Instagram has removed it as well, until this episode comes out. All the bots, the agency that manages them, they have put it in their handle. So I'm like, which agency manages those bot accounts? So I'm like... At least do this much hard work. At least hide it. Like imagine if you and I only two weeks later. There Speaker 2 (4:17) is a Speaker 1 (4:17) bot Speaker 2 (4:17) agency management industry. Speaker 1 (4:18) Yes. It's an entire industry. Speaker 2 (4:21) Basically Speaker 1 (4:21) there are agencies that manage all these dummy accounts. Instagram accounts. And you can essentially pay them to. Speaker 2 (4:29) It's so sad that in our industry, it's going left, right and center. Speaker 1 (4:33) I think it's part of marketing now. Yeah. I think Speaker 2 (4:37) this happens across industries. Of Speaker 1 (4:39) course, it happens less in Hindi movies. The biscuit Speaker 2 (4:41) brands also hate each other. They say our biscuit is better, your biscuit is better. Correct. Today's Speaker 1 (4:47) date... Your biscuit Speaker 2 (4:48) is soggy. Speaker 2 (4:50) I don't know why I'm saying all this. Do it for a minute. What did you do? Your biscuit will be 100. Speaker 1 (4:57) Which biscuit? To whom is he doing this? Speaker 2 (5:00) That Speaker 1 (5:00) sounds very wrong by the way. Urban Biscuit to Speaker 2 (5:01) Pallaji. Is it the same company? I Speaker 1 (5:04) don't know. It could be. My Speaker 2 (5:05) GK is so disgusting guys. I also did one thing. What? Very embarrassing. I can't give you the details right now. But we went to a game show. Speaker 1 (5:14) Oh yes. Speaker 2 (5:16) If you are watching this and if you like me a little bit, guys, I need your support. I really need your support. Speaker 1 (5:25) I don't know when this episode airs, if that episode would have aired or not. Speaker 2 (5:30) I'm sure the episode will air sometime. Speaker 1 (5:32) Sometime. Yes. But Speaker 2 (5:33) we were called for a game show. I will not, I can't get into the details. But I was told by Gursimran, oh, we've been invited for this game show. Will you go? I said, oh, okay, sure. It's Speaker 1 (5:43) a Speaker 2 (5:43) couple. We Speaker 1 (5:43) had to go as a couple. Speaker 2 (5:44) Yeah. Speaker 2 (5:46) When it starts rolling, I get to know that it was a proper quiz show. And my GK and general knowledge is pathetic. I'm not a quizzer. The reason I'm not on Nation wants to guess probably is because of this. I can't guess anything. Nation will guess but Smith will never. Speaker 1 (6:05) Then what happened? Speaker 2 (6:06) Nothing happened. I've made a fool of myself. Because I'm guppy. So I'll make a fool of myself. You did Speaker 1 (6:15) that? You talked a lot? There was no answer? Speaker 2 (6:19) All my answers were wrong. And I'm so embarrassed. I was like joking that this is Alia Bhatt moment into 1 million. What has happened with me? So whenever it is released, obviously you guys will get to know. If it is released, please go on YouTube and comment. We love Ismeet still. Heart. Speaker 1 (6:37) I can get this botting agency to Speaker 2 (6:40) spam Speaker 1 (6:42) positive comments. Speaker 2 (6:44) We love her heart. It's made for president. I Speaker 1 (6:49) think in that show, I was like this for half the time. Nice pose. Speaker 2 (6:57) After Speaker 1 (6:58) your answers, I was like this. So let's see. Whenever that comes. This is how Speaker 2 (7:02) Paro was. Paro, Paro, Paro. It Speaker 1 (7:05) was in Paro pose. But we had fun, right? I Speaker 2 (7:08) had fun, sure. I also had Speaker 1 (7:09) fun. We also had fun. I'm looking forward to actually seeing what that edit is. Speaker 2 (7:13) I'm not. Speaker 1 (7:15) It was fun. I think it was nice. Anyway, should we move on to our questions? Yeah. So, we put Speaker 2 (7:21) our Speaker 1 (7:21) questions on our Insta. You also put them on your Insta. pod podcast page on insta so many people have commented maybe we should go one by one we Speaker 2 (7:32) can start with you we Speaker 1 (7:33) can start with me you Speaker 2 (7:34) know but we have actually made a very interesting observation yes Speaker 1 (7:37) the Speaker 2 (7:37) kind of comments that Gursimran questions that Gursimran got and the kind of questions which I got were vastly different I Speaker 1 (7:43) just want to say I think I saw them briefly yesterday night and I think there are in my side three usable questions Speaker 1 (7:53) All the questions I'm getting is Tanmay Bhatt on Nation wants to guess when. Nation wants to guess season 2 when. Speaker 2 (8:00) Tanmay Bhatt on Nation wants to guess when. Speaker 1 (8:02) Anyway, my point is, whatever questions you guys have asked. And Speaker 2 (8:07) it's not like they only asked one. They only asked a thousand. Speaker 1 (8:09) Only that. So people don't care. One pod related. I didn't get the question right. We will definitely answer the 2-3 questions that were usable. I think we will have to rely on Speaker 2 (8:20) you. Speaker 1 (8:20) I think you and Speaker 2 (8:21) Tanmay are like for people like that Bollywood couple. Who gets a breakup and then everyone keeps talking. Those two were meant to be. Who Speaker 1 (8:31) is that Bollywood couple? I don't Speaker 2 (8:32) know. You made us Speaker 1 (8:33) Amitabh and Rekha. Speaker 2 (8:34) They should have been together. Or Shah Rukh Priyanka. Or Shahid Kareena. How people say. And Karishma. Karishma, Abhishek. Karishma, Abhishek. They were always in love. They are. I know. Ranbir and Deepika are you and Tanmay. Speaker 1 (8:55) You are the real cut. You have to cut the real. Speaker 2 (9:02) If you are Ranbir and Deepika. That means I am Alia. Speaker 1 (9:07) I got in between. Speaker 2 (9:11) What do I say? It makes no sense. Speaker 1 (9:13) I want to say nothing. You just. You keep digging this hole that you are. You keep digging. Speaker 2 (9:20) Or I can be Ranveer Singh also, actually. Sorry, I would like to be Ranveer Singh. I like him more. Speaker 1 (9:25) Let's get to the question. First question. Gayatri Suresh has asked, what are some must-have qualities you would recommend men develop in this day and age? Whoa. Okay, actually, Ismit, you want to start? Speaker 2 (9:39) Good sperm health. How will, otherwise, where will our children come from in our country? We Speaker 1 (9:46) both, who have done the whole podcast, that we are not looking at procreating. But Speaker 2 (9:52) I want Speaker 1 (9:52) to Speaker 2 (9:52) advocate Darwin's theory. If our sperm health is not good, then our children's health will not be good. So it's very important for humans and men to be healthy and to take care of their health and for them to work out. Speaker 2 (10:10) Work out. Gurusev, have you started working out? Bro! It's been a year. Must have quality a man should have is listen to his partner. I Speaker 1 (10:22) listen to you. Then Speaker 2 (10:25) why haven't you started working out? I'm beginning to sound like a broken record. Speaker 1 (10:31) Gayatri, I think I'm going to answer seriously since Sushmita is not looking at answering anything seriously and she has mentally checked out of this conversation. I would say a reading habit. Why are you laughing? Why are you laughing? Of Speaker 2 (10:51) all the habits. Speaker 1 (10:53) Habit Speaker 2 (10:54) or quality? Speaker 1 (10:56) Recommend must have quality. Speaker 2 (10:58) Of all... Speaker 2 (11:02) the qualities available, you could only think of a reading habit. Speaker 1 (11:07) A reading habit shows that you have A. Patience B. Your brain is not fucked by ADHD of watching reels all the time. Third, it means you are open to learning. One thing shows a lot of qualities about one particular person. That's where I was coming from. Not, oh, whatever the fuck you were doing. Speaker 1 (11:36) Yes, no. Okay. Speaker 2 (11:38) But, even if you don't have a reading habit, if you have a good listening habit. Speaker 1 (11:43) Listening habit is also a good thing. Speaker 2 (11:44) You can learn Speaker 1 (11:45) a lot in Speaker 2 (11:45) 3-3 hours podcast. If you can listen to a podcast for 3 hours, then you have patience. Because ADHD brain is 30 seconds and swipe left, swipe right. Speaker 1 (11:55) So, you are saying that men should have listening ability to listen. No, no. Speaker 2 (12:00) Good sperms. Health. Speaker 2 (12:04) This question has been asked from the intent of a partner, right? Yeah, I Speaker 1 (12:08) would imagine. Or just Speaker 2 (12:09) men in general? Speaker 1 (12:10) I don't know. Maybe men in general. Speaker 2 (12:13) Men in general should be, A, I think they should learn to be vulnerable and they need to learn that crying is not a weakness and expressing your emotions is not weakness. So that's a quality that they can work on to be more emotionally available and expressive. Don't Speaker 1 (12:29) you Speaker 2 (12:29) think that's Speaker 1 (12:29) improved though? I would imagine there's been so much messaging around this over the last decade. I think that would have improved. Speaker 2 (12:35) Otherwise, all humans, men and women, we should just operate out of love. Have empathy. And empathy. Empathy has become very strong. But be a nice human being. Kindness. Kindness. Be kind. Be kind. Don't judge others. Don't judge yourself. Live and let live. Speaker 1 (12:50) Okay, let us go to Gayatri. I hope that answered your question well. At least if you are liking the emotional, vulnerable side of it, or if you're liking the sperm side of it, or whatever you would like. Ismeet, what question did you get? I have a Speaker 2 (13:06) few questions, but just first, we can go through yours. Speaker 1 (13:10) What is the one challenge in your relationship that you have overcome together? Speaker 2 (13:14) Oh my God. We should have actually discussed these before and thought about it. Yeah, Speaker 1 (13:18) exactly. What Speaker 2 (13:19) challenge? Oh, actually, I remember we have overcome the challenge of how we look at our finances and how we looked at... When we got married, he was earning a lot more than me. And me being like an independent woman, whatever, whatever, whatever, always was wanting to dutch. etc etc and then there came a point where gur simran wanted to take me on a holiday i remember and the room was 15 000 per night back then and i was like no i can't afford this but you were like so what i'm paying it doesn't matter but my ego was so much but i was like no i'm not gonna like and and even if i would let him pay i would just keep cribbing and i would keep overthinking it like for a very very very long time uh and this continued for a very long time but i was just uncomfortable because it was not equal it could never be because you Speaker 1 (14:06) hadn't grown up like that also no you were grown up you had grown up being taught to be independent pay your own bills etc etc yeah and you were always working then Speaker 2 (14:15) we kind of went for therapy to like talk about this and discuss this and eventually i think it took us a while but then we reached a place which was so safe where um it didn't matter who was paying how much correct and we started operating like a unit correct Speaker 1 (14:31) uh Speaker 2 (14:31) which i think is a healthy way of being in a partnership Speaker 1 (14:35) And yesterday only we have put out a reel where you've said ki my money is my money. It's also my friend's money. Which is very funny. Speaker 2 (14:42) Yeah. And I've got comments on it saying be my best friend. Be my best friend. Speaker 1 (14:46) Suddenly new best friend. Ban Speaker 2 (14:47) jao ya. But abhi toh main baise nahi hai dine ke liye. If you want money from me, first you have to be my best friend for 7, 8, 9 years and then we will see. Speaker 1 (14:56) Invest in the stock. This is going to go long. It's going to go further. Invest in Speaker 2 (15:00) me. Speaker 1 (15:01) No, but yes, this is it. I think that took... I think that's a good example because I also feel that's Speaker 2 (15:08) a Speaker 1 (15:08) very practical example and I imagine that is the kind of mismatch I would assume a lot of partners would be having. Everybody cannot, is literally not at the same financial level and... The other thing about financial level also is, and one thing I feel that helped us in our case, is that because I am also creative profession. So it's not like my income is stable. It's always up and down. So I mean, there were years where, for example, you were making more than I was making. So I think that also helped in that situation. And honestly, the way I also look at it is, ki yaar, aaj I'm making more. Tomorrow you are making more. Any one of us five years later can say, I feel like I'm burnt out. Or I feel like I don't want to do this anymore. Or I want to change profession. I want to do anything. So, there can never be a consistent graph. I mean, those who have, maybe they are Speaker 2 (15:57) very Speaker 1 (15:57) lucky. Speaker 2 (15:57) Unless you have a generational wealth or you're like a super, super, super established business. In which case, it doesn't matter. In Speaker 1 (16:02) the creative Speaker 2 (16:02) industry stages where we are at right now, it's very up and down. But yeah, that's interesting. And I feel maybe this we've learned from our parents. Maybe that. You know, you are with a person for the character and not for his or her bank balance, which I feel in India, many of us get it wrong. My Speaker 1 (16:18) biggest learning in life has just been this only, that you were in a corporate profession, you decided to change your profession. Tomorrow, four years later, who knows where I'm at mentally. I might tell you, Ismit, I don't think I'm being able to do enough. I want to do something else or I want a break. Anything can happen. So I think financially, That all, if you're in that up and down, you need to be a unit and you need to figure it out together. Otherwise you're effed. Oh, this is interesting. Parampreet has asked, how do you keep conversations interesting between you two, given that you are so different from each other? Speaker 2 (16:51) Start a podcast. Speaker 1 (16:56) You know, I saw a very random, but I saw an algorithm in the morning when I was in the loo. I saw a reel. I don't know why I needed to give details. I saw a reel today. It was very interesting. And I realized that I think you do that more. Again, basically something called micro connections or something like that. So basically what they said was, suppose you are hanging out with your partner. And your partner says, uh oh look at that bird this was the reel okay oh look at that bird they said you as the second person as the partner if you reply oh what bird or you show some curiosity or you show some excitement towards your partner's excitement then that gives you micro connections whereas if you say for example you keep trying to make a connection saying oh look Speaker 2 (17:49) this Speaker 1 (17:50) oh look that oh look that and every time i'm like yeah whatever yeah that the partner will stop trying to make those micro connections because they will be like every time i get rejected i feel like between the two of us you do a lot of this you're cute we are very you're more curious than i am in terms of trying to find something or learning about something and then you i was thinking about this i think you throw this a lot at me in a and i mean it in a positive way look i learned something what have you seen this or have you looked at that or look at this cafe or maybe we should go somewhere and i've it really reminded me of that and i feel like you draw a lot of that and you draw that out of me also because I'm also very curious that what have you found what's interesting what so I think maybe this is what keeps Speaker 2 (18:38) Yeah. Speaker 1 (18:38) Conversation fresh even though we are different. I think curiosity Speaker 2 (18:40) first at an individual level and then even curiosity at what you're... Firstly, I think having different interests is also important. I think what the question said that you are so different and how do you keep curiosity alive? I think the very fact that we are different means that we have so many more things and so many different perspectives to bring to the table, right? Like you are doing your own thing. I'm doing my own thing. So when after a day we come back together, you have different things to talk about. about and i have different things to talk about and then to add to that the curiosity that i am interested in knowing about your life and i hope you are interested in knowing about my life Speaker 1 (19:16) and i also realize i feel like it it shows up in when we do say for example pod with the pod like i'll give an example pod mei ke hota hai thik hai humar hum koi major prep to karke aate nahi hai pod ke liye it will be like achha kal is cheez ke baare baat karte hain to like when If Ismit, I've realized this, when you research something in your head, a particular subject, the questions you go ask and the questions where you take it is so different from my research, so to speak. Speaker 2 (19:48) And Speaker 1 (19:49) I feel like, let me give you an example. We were Speaker 2 (19:52) discussing mortality in the previous Speaker 1 (19:52) episode. Speaker 1 (19:56) I told you, I said, okay, you had told me on the day of the shoot saying, I want to do a little bit more research on mortality. And you ended up talking about, say, different types of coffins that they make. My brain would not even have gone there. Like you process that same question so differently. And I feel that is also what keeps it interesting because you are so different. You will find a different angle. But I feel the same Speaker 2 (20:21) about you, the way you make jokes. It blows my mind. Like how, I mean, where do you take a joke from? And like