414: Carnie Calls Decoded: Mean Girl Mackenzie Shirilla Is at It Again | What She Doesn't Want Heard

Serialously with Annie Elise

In this episode of Serialously with Annie Elise, the host investigates the mysterious 'Carney' language used by Mackenzie Shirilla during her jailhouse phone calls, exploring its origins in carnival culture and its use as a coded means of communication. The episode delves into the linguistic and cultural background of Carney, clarifying it is not pig Latin but a real, niche language with roots in

Key takeaways

• Carney is a real secret language developed by carnival workers, not pig Latin as previously assumed.
• Mackenzie Shirilla uses Carney during calls with her mother, often to express frustration about jail conditions and people she dislikes.
• The language is not secure—experts confirm it’s easily decipherable and likely used more for habit or emotional expression than true secrecy.

Transcript preview

There are some scenes in this documentary where she is speaking a gibberish language. And the language that she's speaking is Carney. He's a skidididid to the kibirid to the kidhiridh, hehiridh, hehiric language. Heh, heh, heh, hehah, heh, heh, heh, heh, heh, heh, heh, hehoo Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to an all new episode of Seriolea and welcome back to an all new episode of serialously with me your host, Annie E. Lease. And today's Thursday, which usually would mean headline highlights where I walk you through everything happening. this week in true crime. However, I have a very special episode for you today. It's going to be a focus on one particular case slash situation rather than going into all of the different cases that we normally talk about. I also do not have Amy O'Brien with me today, so I apologize for all of you who are waiting for me to say hello to her. But here, let me break down what we're going to be talking about together today because it's something that has been I've been working on this behind the scenes for quite a few weeks now. It's been very difficult to find someone who speaks this language and maybe you already know where I'm going with this based on past cases that we've covered but let me break it down. When I released my last Mackenzie Shirillo episode I truly believed that we were going to be done with that girl that we would never talk about her again. We could leave her behind in the dust and never revisit it. However, there was this like nagging feeling that I just that I'm could not only a lot of you were wondering to why do her and her mom speak in this secret language not only in some of the body cam footage that we saw but in the jail calls and it's you know a sect off of pig Latin it's carny language because her mom grew up in the carnival circuit and taught Mackenzie the language but like why are they speaking to each other this way and more importantly what the hell are they even saying? So while I thought that we were leaving the of it all behind. Today we are going to revisit it very briefly and I think that this will be the last time and the reason why is because I was able to track down someone who speaks that language fluently. So you know my nosy ass had to get in there decode these calls translate these calls and figure out just what the hell they were saying. So what I'm going to do is actually go through all of those old prison calls, clip out the part where they are speaking in this language, and then be joined by someone who speaks the language fluently themselves and translate everything for you. Now before we jump in I did want to share some exciting news with you guys because it's that time of year I've already seen the messages start trickling in but our annual subscription sale is officially here. 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Now after listening to over 100 jail calls, the people two things really stuck out to me one mrs. mrs. he is always irritated just always on 99 level of like spoiled brat mode and two when mrs. she does almost every single time start talking in code. So please call Viditation and see if you can get our video calls to move it to the other terminal. Yeah, video call and conissary. But now she's banging on the door like girl you just got here. You just got here. Shut the fuck up. How old is she? I don't know probably old as fuck like everyone else in here. Oh my god. See you though, we said these are, we said we did like it. like I was like, oh I do crack. I'm like what? Yeah, she don't look like it at all. Oh my gosh Kansi, after court, when we were sitting there waiting, a guy came out with his client, a guy came out with his client, he goes, man, you just did me 30. You know what you were doing, you just did me 30. And he goes, I just saved your life, I just saved your life, right? And he goes, you know what you did. I don't even want to get into it. And his You can't sell crack. And he's like, you don't care, you don't know me, and you don't have to share that. I was like, you don't look like you do that at all. Like you, she's pretty as fuck, like she doesn't look like it. Maybe they got her early. And you know what I found out? Hold on, I'm about to see. I didn't know that though I thought it was. So people are snorting crack? Yes so I'm a what? That means dumb doing crack before. Oh I don't like that. I always was like I would never do crack. I never did crack. No. That's crazy. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like it. I like you have to smoke it like in a pipe for it to be cracked. Yeah I know. Right. But like why? What's the difference? Why is it a different name if it is what it is? Because it's like hard and soft apparently I was asking her about it and then she told me like because she like burnt like she had a hole in her nose because of it's not hurting too much. Oh my God. Here. What the hell? She's pretty as fuck though. She's like 43 or something like that. She's so pretty like I like I like her. Oh I hope she gets saved. So pretty. that they're speaking is called Carney and I'm not saying that to be disrespectful or anything like that because I have seen a lot of people say that it's pig lat and it's this and that it's a version of that but technically it is called the Carney language which is short for Carnival. So first what I did is I checked the case