BAANAP: Brandon and Akiva Banter A to Z

Rob Has a Podcast | Big Brother, Survivor & Reality TV - RHAP

Brandon and Akiva engage in a spontaneous alphabetical banter session, moving through the letters A to D. They traverse a wide range of topi

Key takeaways

• The 'automatic runner on second' rule in baseball is designed to accelerate extra innings and prevent scoreless stalemates.
• Brandon recounts a high school memory of feeling immense guilt over failing to tip a British barber after an expensive $110 haircut.

Main topics

• Baseball rules and history
• Childhood memories and anxiety

Notable quotes

I'm the happiest I've ever been.

Conclusion

A high-energy, rambling exploration of random trivia that highlights t

Transcript preview

Speaker 2 (0:00) This is Benab. Rob's busy. That's not cap because it's Benab. We're going to have a blast because Brandon's on the podcast. This is Benab. We've got Coke Zero on tap because it's Benab. What's going on, everybody? That's a theme song I put together 10 minutes before I started recording this. And we are here for another episode of Brandon and Akiva Nita Podcast. We're going to rank. We're not ranking anything. We're going to go through the letters of the alphabet, which in a way are ranked, but they're ranked in alphabetical order. Yeah, Speaker 1 (0:35) God ranked them. Did God write the alphabet? I don't know. But anyway, A is the best letter. That's why Akiva starts with A. Sure. Well, Brandon. I got some news. I'm right behind you. Should we have someone like Charlie, or Chester, and it would be ABC? We could do that Speaker 2 (0:54) with the whole... We know a guy named Derek. Speaker 1 (0:59) Should that be the next episode? Should we try and get people with all 26? That's not a bad bit. Let's do it. No. Well, you know what? We're going to have a hard time with Speaker 2 (1:08) that. Speaker 1 (1:08) It's more of a BNAP idea, but Rob is the only person with the capability. Speaker 1 (1:14) of getting, I think, you could do it. You could get all 26 guests. Oh, because if I ask Sam, Sam's not backstage, right? No, he's not. If I ask Sam, he'd be like, hard no. First of all, Sam would say, who are you again? He pretends not to even know who I am. And then, yeah, there's logistical issues with getting everybody here. If Speaker 2 (1:34) people like Speaker 1 (1:34) this, Speaker 2 (1:35) could Speaker 1 (1:36) we have a sign up and like, all right, let's see. We could see which letter flakes, like. all right, this is an E. Does this person actually count as an E? Because they're a bill, but really their birth certificate says William. I feel like we could do it. Speaker 2 (1:50) We would have to then rank the people by how much we like them. And then that will in turn give us our letter rank. Ah, perfect. Speaker 1 (1:57) That's the ultimate. All right, this is a good idea for the next time we do this, which could be next week. I have no idea what Rob's schedule is. It could be. I really don't know. I know 26 people. Speaker 2 (2:04) I think I have my phone alphabetized. And then for a long time, I didn't have it. You do that. I Speaker 1 (2:10) thought the phone automatically alphabetize everyone. Like since phones were invented, the, your call list has been alphabetized. Are you saying you Speaker 2 (2:18) thought Speaker 1 (2:18) you did it manually? Speaker 2 (2:19) Well, you can choose. You can choose to have everybody alphabetized by first name or last name. I have everybody alphabetized by last name. Speaker 1 (2:26) Oh, I was going to make fun of you and I should have listened. Which could be on the slogan of the podcast. Speaker 2 (2:32) But if you have your names and your contacts organized by first name, I think that's, that's interesting to me. I think this is the default. So if you, if you have everybody by first name, you changed it. You thought Speaker 1 (2:45) you liked that more. No, I think it's a, whatever you call them. I don't know. I don't have an iPhone. So maybe an iPhone is different in 2026, but I'll say this back in the dumb phone days, the Nokia is the phone that had hard buttons for one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. and the green call button and the red hang up button, it was much easier to pocket call the first number on your phone because it would just press down once and you'd probably be into like contacts, right? So I Speaker 2 (3:11) got Speaker 1 (3:12) so, so, so many. wrong butt dial calls that would not hang up because those phones would like they'd call, but it would just be like 20 minutes. And I remember one time a guy, I'd say other than my mom who did it a lot, the second person who did it all the time. One time I saw his phone and it said key and it blew my world because like, how, why am I getting these butt dials? K is in the middle. Am I? Yeah, that's interesting. Remember phase five? Speaker 2 (3:46) Of course I do. The iPhone has made it hard to call anybody who you don't mean to call because you have to be on their contact. Often will I call somebody in my recent calls that I'm calling by accident because I clicked the wrong name, but at least I've talked to the other person semi-recently. There's like four things you have to do to call a random number in Speaker 1 (4:07) your contacts. which we Speaker 2 (4:09) can do that. Speaker 1 (4:10) That's another episode. One of my biggest fears in life is my kids taking my phone and calling someone I didn't want to call because I've never gone through my contacts. I could have someone who I haven't spoken to since 2006 in there. I accidentally was going to call him Ben and I almost clicked the name of a Ben who did a job interview with me once 10 years ago. I was like, not that I would care if I called him, but why do I even have his phone number saved? That should be deleted. He said, hey, Ben, we talked about it. You got the job. Congrats. I think Speaker 2 (4:41) he was interviewing Speaker 1 (4:42) me. And then at the interview, he told me I would have to quit podcasting. I mean, that's not why I even didn't take the job. Speaker 2 (4:48) But it was Speaker 1 (4:49) bizarre. Speaker 2 (4:51) It was weird. That's like the Disney Channel movies where you have to quit baseball to be in the dance or whatever. Yeah. Well, yes. Speaker 1 (4:57) Basically, it's like we need all of your time. You can't. Yeah. You can't have a hobby. You can't have a hobby. Did you not like my theme song? I loved it. It was amazing. I'm shocked that we had a new theme song. It's great. Did you think about making it longer and like, oh, that's all the things I could think of? No, I'm worried that we're going to get sued Speaker 2 (5:17) because it's a... Is Rob going to get mad at you? Speaker 1 (5:20) If Renap ever got like a full takedown for our HAP, Paul Robb would be so mad at me. Oh, he'd be really upset. Yeah. Even if it was you, Speaker 2 (5:29) like Speaker 1 (5:29) he knows I couldn't like write that song and put the music in. So ultimately it would be you, but I'd get blamed. It would be of like my baby. You're like, I would, I would get blamed. I would get blamed. And, but it would, you know, at least I could, Speaker 2 (5:42) I'd fabricate a screenshot that said that you told me we needed to say that word again. You know, it is fabricate. And I think I stumbled on it and I was hoping that nobody caught it. Speaker 1 (5:52) Well, I just, I didn't want the, it's better that you now admit that you know the word and then have 12 people to comment saying, does Brandon Donlan think the word is fabricate? They don't have a grammar test before you go on Survivor. I would have passed it. Listen, people are allowed to correct my grammar. I speak on podcast all the time. I'm sure I botch words every minute. But I do like calling people out on messing up a word to entertain myself. And does that make me an a-hole? Probably. But at least it keeps me happy. Speaking of happy, you said something right before the show that I think is worth addressing. Speaker 2 (6:30) Yeah. So I worked at Panera Bread in the summer of 2013, 14. I'm Speaker 1 (6:37) in Speaker 2 (6:37) high school. And my manager, he would always say that he's living the dream when you'd ask how he was doing. Speaker 1 (6:43) And I Speaker 2 (6:43) thought that was like, people would chuckle, but it's like played out because everybody says that. So somewhere along the way, I started when people ask me how I am, I say, I'm the happiest I've ever been. And I don't think about it. It's like an autopilot response. And when we hopped on this podcast, Akiva said to me, how are you? I said, I'm the happiest I've ever been. Is that true at this moment? No, but not, not for a reason. I'm not, I'm not unhappy. It's just today is if, if God were to come down right now and be like, is this the happiest you've ever been? I'd be like, honest to God. I don't think so. Speaker 1 (7:15) Um, you would say to God, you'd say honest to God, you'd address God in that, in that manner. You have, you have to, right? If he's there, I, Speaker 2 (7:25) if God Speaker 1 (7:26) were here, I do wonder. And you Speaker 2 (7:27) always say God is a man. Speaker 1 (7:29) You always tell me this. So when you say you're using key pronouns. Well, you're reading my t Speaker 2 (7:33) -shirt right now that says it, but I do. I do often say that also. Well, your t-shirt says God is the man, Speaker 1 (7:37) which is interesting, but whatever we could. Speaker 2 (7:41) And he is. And he is. I Speaker 1 (7:44) do wonder how much banter he'd want to have if he were here. You think he's funny? If he's out there, do you think he's funny? He's done a lot of funny stuff. I guess in a way, he has. Yeah. He's like, what if he was bald and 5'6"? Yeah, that's funny. You know what? And he's thinking about it. There's some funny looking people out there. It's like, oh, let's throw... Like, I mean, like, Wemby? That's a good one. Speaker 2 (8:13) It's like, what if we made Speaker 1 (8:14) Wemby? Like a 7'7", like, arrogant, really skinny French guy who thinks he's a point guard in the NBA. Yeah. So, all right. Speaker 2 (8:24) So the happiest thing you've ever been. That's amazing. Yes. You'd have to think today's probably not it. But it's... I mean, it's in the top thousand days, Speaker 1 (8:33) probably. What do you think? Chester probably has, like, his five happiest days. Like... What do you think the happiest day of your life is? Because people say the wedding, you haven't gotten married yet. Honestly, the wedding is happy, but it's also a very stressful day. You're kind of responsible for it goes well. And even if you are a type of person who lives in the moment, it's kind of hard to live in the moment. And it's a great day, but you're not always happy. Sometimes you're sad, you're crying, you're stressed, you're dealing with stuff. Speaker 2 (9:00) There aren't a lot of like... And I'm 29 years of age, but I haven't had a lot of like... days with one thing that made it super good. Like even like, like you can go with like the day I met my girlfriend, which was a fun, like nothing really happened other than I met my girl. Like that wasn't a better day. They Speaker 1 (9:17) didn't have a second thing where like you also found a hundred bucks on the ground and found out you got into like graduate school and like, yeah. I Speaker 2 (9:24) mean the, the day they told me I got on survivor was a good day, I guess. Um, but again, that was the only thing that happened that day. And I kind of knew the day Speaker 1 (9:32) before. Yeah, but even then, it's like the day you met your girlfriend, like, I'll be honest, and I've been with my wife for so long, we don't remember the day we met, really. Oh, yeah. Speaker 2 (9:43) We Speaker 1 (9:44) don't know which, I mean, we remember our first interactions. We remember what it was, but we don't know the actual day. We were in camp, so you're not like looking at a calendar and you don't have like, every day is kind of the same. We were counselors in a camp. there's no, you know, what's the difference between a Monday and a Thursday? And like, so we, we, we will never know that the actual day we met. Um, so I don't know. Maybe that was the happiest day of my life. Who knows what else happened that day? Probably not. And it was a hard, hard, hard camp. Speaker 2 (10:11) Yeah. I, and then I haven't, obviously like I'm not engaged. I'm not, I'm not married. Yeah. But then engaged Speaker 1 (10:16) usurps meeting maybe, but then marriage usurps that. But then like the first baby, maybe the first, I mean, how about this? The day my daughter Ella was born, January 1st, 2006. Mm-hmm. Speaker 1 (10:29) A, here's the good things that happened that day. Doctor did a C-section. We were not in there for like 15 hours with the whole shebang. That was good. I mean, bad for my wife and recovery, but for me personally, it was tremendous. It was 25 minutes. I cut the umbilical cord. We're in the room. We got freaking CBS and Fox pregame shows on it Sunday. It's week 17. Jets win would be good, but we wanted them to lose because we want them to get a good... They were 3-12. We wanted them to have Speaker 2 (10:54) a Speaker 1 (10:54) good draft pick. So it was like kind of Speaker 2 (10:56) a Speaker 1 (10:56) negative that they won. But then like my dad and my grandfather coming, we have four generations of Wienerkers watching football on Sunday. Like that's a really good day. And then anytime she does something that annoys me, it's like, oh, like that's, that's like one of the worst days of my life now. Just kidding. But you understand what I'm saying. Speaker 2 (11:11) Of course. And then you tell like, you know what? January 1st, that was only a good day because of that football game. Speaker 1 (11:16) And yeah, it was like, of course it was a good day. The Jets beat the Bills 22 to 17. Justin Miller had a kick return for touchdown with four minutes to go in the game. But also, I missed the jet game. I had tickets. I had Speaker 2 (11:26) to Speaker 1 (11:26) leave them at... I was still in college, by the way, when I had this kid. So I had to leave them at the dorm for one of my friends on the way to the hospital. I stopped. And my buddy's like, can you leave the tickets with a security Speaker 2 (11:36) guard? So I did. That's really funny. Speaker 1 (11:39) I left. It was like five... We went six in the morning because the doctor thought she could squeeze us in before. And it didn't end up happening. Baby was born at 1030. But I left four tickets to your security guard for my friend, Hemi. Speaker 1 (11:52) It was like, yeah, I have to do an errand to Mary before we actually, we're going to walk to the hospital because we went to Columbia, which was only like 12 blocks where I was in school, from where I went to school. But she was so like ludicrously pregnant that one of like the security shuttle drivers saw us and is like, are you in labor? And she wasn't in labor. It was an induced C-section. It was like 11 days before a due date. and he like made us go in the car and drove us even though it was probably like against the rules of what he was allowed to do but he just like saw this like obscenely pregnant person and that's a good Speaker 2 (12:25) Samaritan Speaker 1 (12:27) he's a good Samaritan yeah yeah I wish I knew his name because maybe it was the best day of his life like he drove a woman and he thinks she's you know like without her he could have had the baby on the street what little does he know she wasn't even really in labor and also he's Speaker 2 (12:41) waiting yeah Speaker 1 (12:42) He's waiting for a thank you. Should we go on heavyweight and be like, the guy who I think drove us could have been like NYPD, but I think was like college security. I'd love to meet him, Jonathan Goldstein. Speaker 2 (12:56) I bet you he, that's what I'm saying, is that he watches like the Kelly Clarkson show and he sees, oh, we reunited this person and this person. He's like, man, I hope that person cures a disease or something. So then they thank me. Do you have any Speaker 1 (13:10) mystery? So we solved mystery episodes. I thought we did a really nice one. Did you hear that episode? You haven't heard it yet, right? I did. No, I liked it a lot. That was my girlfriend. Kim Jim came on and we had a beautiful, I thought, story from her. And we were able to, you know, I don't know if we helped or whatever, you know, the story got solved. So, you know, Heavyweight, he basically does the same thing, right? He like solves sort of like, you know, help someone apologize someone from the past or get... you know, the truth or get the answers. Do you have anything like that? Like, is there something you'd love to know from someone out there? Like, why did this person do this? Why did he call me a butthead in front of the whole class in 11th grade or anything like that? There was a Robin Speaker 2 (13:52) Akiva. Speaker 2 (13:54) submit or answer like listener confessions. This is years ago. I think not the ones you read at the podcast. No, we did do that. Weirdly dirty. Yeah, they got. Yeah, they got. There's a lot of and that woman's uncle Speaker 1 (14:07) really got and really killed her uncle or she's just doing a bit. Speaker 2 (14:12) There was a woman for people who are listening who responded to that. We did a game in Milwaukee and you think I didn't give enough context. Just in case. Really, what I'm going to say sets up... You don't think everyone listening Speaker 1 (14:24) has heard every minute of every nap twice? Speaker 2 (14:27) Let me tell you why I'm saying it. It's because it sets up my follow-up story. A woman submits that her aunt killed her uncle, I think. And then she came up to me later at the after-party and was like, come over here. And then I went in the corner and I was like, what's up? And she's Speaker 1 (14:43) like, Speaker 2 (14:43) my aunt killed my uncle. And then she gave me the details of it. It is very legit. Speaker 1 (14:47) Why didn't Speaker 2 (14:47) she tell me? I'm so offended, whoever this was. She's listening. I know she's listening. I will. I remember her name. I'm not going to say her name. I would have wanted to know. Reach out. No, it's too late now. We're not friends anymore. I think in the podcast, I may have said, tell me after this. But regardless, this is years ago that you guys did this episode. And I submitted under, of course, a fake name. But when I was in high school, Speaker 1 (15:10) I Speaker 2 (15:10) went to a really, and I didn't know this at the time, but it was a really expensive place to cut my hair. It was a really expensive like barber. Okay. And I'm in high school. Like I have no money. And my, the guy was so nice. He was a British guy. He was handsome. He's cutting my hair. They offered me champagne and I don't, I don't drink, but I was like, I'll take you. Um, yeah. And they didn't ask, but we're having the time of our lives. It's in the Cherry Hill mall. Shout out to South Jersey. Um, and then my bill is like $110. Like my bill is like, Oh, it's 2013 or Speaker 1 (15:45) 14. That's a lot of money. Now, $110, you'd be like, oh, is there a discount today? But yeah, back then it was... I'm Speaker 2 (15:50) in high school and I think I have like $200 to $300. I don't have any money. Speaker 1 (15:55) Did you have the hair? I haven't seen a lot of pictures of you in high school. Did you have the unbelievably long hair where maybe there was like, oh, this guy? Speaker 2 (16:02) No, it was shorter than this, probably. Speaker 1 (16:04) Okay, so it was normal. It wasn't like you had to do... Because when you had the super long survivor hair, you walk in, they're like, oh, this guy needs like... He can't... He's not paying the Wienerker prices. He's paying like a... Speaker 2 (16:14) No, this was a very, like, this was a routine run of the mill haircut. Speaker 1 (16:18) Um, Speaker 2 (16:19) and this has to be the summer of 2014. Cause I think I just got my license, which was in June of 2014. So regardless, I don't have a lot of money. So I, I pay and I didn't tip. And I, I, for, for months I couldn't sleep. Cause I'm like, I have to run this guy like money. Like I have to bring him money. And then I was like, I'll be embarrassed. I'll walk in. Like he remembers me, whatever, whatever. I at one point found his Facebook and I wanted to send him a message and apologize. And then I never did. And this is before Venmo. This is before like- Speaker 1 (16:51) Did you get in trouble Speaker 2 (16:51) with your Speaker 1 (16:52) parents or it was kind of your money and you just didn't tell them? No, it was Speaker 2 (16:54) all that my parents aren't paying for my haircut. If I told them that I paid $100 for a haircut, they would have, I think, hit me. It was an accident. It was an accident. And I say that if they listen to this, they would be upset. They would have bailed me out. Did you tell the guy Speaker 1 (17:08) like, I'm a kid. I kind of thought this would be 20 bucks. I did not Speaker 2 (17:12) do that. I think I was. And I also like I was I was a lifelong not anymore. Thanks to my exposure therapy. But I was very, very anxious. So I think I was anxious in the moment and I was anxious to say anything during. And then I was anxious afterward. So I would have loved to have like. And really, if you gave me an hour, I could probably find the name of the place, find the name of the guy and then Venmo him a good sum of money. but I haven't done that. I think they owe Speaker 1 (17:40) you money. Like I hear what you're saying, but like he, he charged, he may have upcharged, like he charged a child $110 for a haircut without telling him beforehand. Yeah. And Speaker 2 (17:50) I, I am 11th grade Speaker 1 (17:51) or an 11th grade. I'm in 11th grade. I'm, I'm, Speaker 2 (17:54) I'm going into my senior year of high school. 110 is the number that's in my head right now. It could have been like 90. It was, it was, it was above. It was still very high. I still think it's like, Speaker 1 (18:03) uh, I, I, I mean, I almost think like with a high school kid, maybe you look like a clean cut kid, but it was like, are you going to, uh, well, it's not dine and dash. You're going to snip, snip and dash or something. Although they Speaker 2 (18:13) do it. So Speaker 1 (18:14) it would be, it's harder Speaker 2 (18:15) for you to like, they Speaker 1 (18:16) could chase after you Speaker 2 (18:17) with Speaker 1 (18:17) scissors or like a Speaker 2 (18:17) razor. You sit down. We're going to put it all back on. Speaker 1 (18:19) We're going to have your DNA. Speaker 2 (18:20) It's Speaker 1 (18:21) all over the store. So it's like, it would be a bad thing to do. Speaker 2 (18:24) And then I was like, are they going to like, if I'm in the mall, I couldn't walk by there. Like it was a whole. You could never go to the mall again. Speaker 1 (18:29) Did you, were you afraid to go to near that shop for the rest of like. Of course. I Speaker 2 (18:34) never walked by it again. And then it closed. But, um, you think you'd find that Speaker 1 (18:39) guy if you, if you needed to, if Speaker 2 (18:40) the, Oh, I think I could unequivocally find that guy. You Speaker 1 (18:43) remember his name? Speaker 2 (18:44) I don't remember his name. Speaker 1 (18:45) I don't. But Speaker 2 (18:46) I Speaker 1 (18:46) bet you, if you're looking for Speaker 2 (18:47) a, Speaker 1 (18:48) a British barber or it could be dead, but a British barber in South Jersey. Speaker 2 (18:52) He could be dead. Yeah. And then Cherry Hill's right next to Philly. He could live there. If I found the name of the place and then found like a Yelp review. I guess it was late enough. Yeah. Speaker 1 (19:03) I Speaker 2 (19:04) found somebody's name. If you give me the name of the place, Speaker 1 (19:05) I'll get you his name. Yeah. Well, that's next week. We'll get him on the podcast. But we haven't. If you saw him. What's that? Right now. What tip would you give him with inflation? Speaker 1 (19:19) So it's a great, it's a phenomenal question. Speaker 2 (19:23) I feel like, you know, I don't, this is a separate story, but I told her on News AF that when we were in Milwaukee, I had a really bad migraine. I forgot to drink water like all day. I got back to the hotel. It's one in the morning, I have a migraine. I call the front desk and I'm like, can I, do you have like any medicine available for purchase? And the woman was like, we're out, but I can bring you up. Tylenol from my purse. And I was like, really? And she's like, yeah, I'll do that. So she comes up, she has her purse. She's like, how many do you want? I was like, three. And then she put three in my hand. And then I tipped her the day afterward, which was... So I, Speaker 1 (20:02) you know... It's funny because I think you did the right thing, but that's almost too intimate for a tip. It's like a friend doing a friend a favor, almost. But not really. I guess she's behind the front desk. But it's like, you know what I mean? If she was getting you... Yes, in theory, she's due for an even bigger tip. But I would almost be like, are we buddies now? I almost think I would be like, it would have hurt her. I was trying to get with Brandon. I mean, it's two in the morning and she's at my room. Let Speaker 2 (20:33) me slip into something a Speaker 1 (20:34) little more comfortable, then Speaker 2 (20:34) I'm going to come upstairs and give you some Tylenol. I didn't even see her. Like I put my hand outside. Really? Okay. So that's like more of a drug. That's a literal drug deal. It looked like a drug. Yeah. I was afraid that the cameras were going to catch something that looked like malicious, but I told the manager the next day, like I wrote, I wrote her like a note. Speaker 2 (20:53) We have a task. I thought it would be funny if we just never got to the banter. We were bantering. People go crazy for this. We solicited from the listeners in our Facebook group. We said, we're going to banter about 26 things. One thing beginning with each letter. And they delivered. So I have a list in front of me. Some letters are bountiful. They have a lot of... Q's or an X's, you Speaker 1 (21:22) think? Let's see. Q, quite a few. Speaker 2 (21:25) X is the one we're going to finish on. Speaker 1 (21:29) Ironically, X is one of the Speaker 2 (21:30) fattest letters, but you're saying it was thin here. It was thin here. One of the submissions is a person that I don't think you know who they are. Xavier McDaniel? That's an X. No. We'll start with A. I'll give you one of the things here, and then we can talk about it. I specified... People, places, abstract concepts, things. I wanted a mix of all things. So that's what I'm just going to, I'm going to, I'm going to curate that for you. Do you want to explain to me, this is a automatic runner on second base in extra innings for number A. Speaker 1 (22:11) Yeah. So basically, basically baseball used to have a thing where a game. And you know what extra innings is, right? Yeah, like when the game is tied at the end? Yeah, so the game is tied after nine innings, and they say, let's play a 10th inning. Okay? Sure. Extra innings. And what used to happen once in a while is that neither team could score. And they'd go, you know, let's say we're tied at four going to the 10th inning, and they'd go into the 11th and the 12th and the 13th, and no one would score. They said, let's add a little bit. Let's speed this up, because who wants a 19 inning baseball game? Even though I'll be honest. The most memorable games I've ever been at are a 15 inning playoff game. And then my dad took me on my birthday. So it's probably about 30. It was early 90s. We went to a double header on my birthday. But by the time we got to the first game, because it started so early, like we had to get home from school and stuff. We got there in ninth inning was like, oh, we'll stay for the second game. But the first game went 18 innings. So we didn't even get because we were like. second grade or third grade. We didn't even get to stay for the whole second game. But anyway, anything could happen. The game could never end in theory in baseball. So they said, let's start each inning with a runner on second and then there will be fewer zeros. It's possible that Team A will score two and then Team B will score two and then we'll have to do this all over again in the 11th inning. But it has significantly shortened, to my knowledge, Speaker 1 (23:45) extra inning. So that is the automatic runner on second base. Well, that feels like a change that I support. Let's Speaker 2 (23:54) speed this shit up. Yeah, I mean, we're all there. A lot of us want to go home. I'll be honest. I've been to many... They stopped Speaker 1 (24:02) selling beer. Nobody's selling beer still on the 10th. I'll tell you that. Speaker 2 (24:06) Yeah, at that point, I'm ready to rock and roll, especially if it's been 1-1 for like seven innings. I'm good to go. Let's speed it up. Is the counter argument to that that it is people like the extra innings or is there a... Is it bigger than that? I think it's that and the purest Speaker 1 (24:25) thing. I think baseball is a sport. One of the really interesting things I think about baseball is I'll be reading a history book, okay? And they'll be like, hey, in 1906, some guy went from Mosul to Damascus by donkey and took over something in a history book. And I was thinking, damn, there's players, baseball players, we compare modern guys to... that were like playing in this freaking donkey era, you know? Sure. And it's crazy. Like Hack Wilson's driving 191 RBI. And like, if he saw a plane, he would have like immediately like, you know, like gone into a stupor and been in a mental institution for the rest of his life, you know? Yeah. Like, Speaker 2 (25:10) you know, it was just like the idea to go outside. If Speaker 1 (25:13) you told Babe Ruth that we were on the, I mean, he wouldn't even know. But like, you know what I'm saying? Like, And it's funny because baseball is so unique and that the rules have changed so little that in many ways you really still, not like three-finger Mordecai Brown, but at a certain point, especially hitters, you can compare stats, especially using advanced metrics that adjust for era, to players from 120 years ago at this point, which is one of the, and baseball is the most statistically oriented sport of any. Sure. You know, your British barber could never, he only isn't going to follow a sport where the final score is usually, you know, zero, zero one, one. And there's no automatic runner in the 90th minute. Um, and I like soccer, but you know, it's, uh, so it, I, I, so there's a lot of purists who are like, you know, the Mets and the Yankees, uh, for the first 30, um, five years that the Mets existed had never played one game against each other. Are you aware of this? Speaker 1 (26:19) That tracks to me. And then they're like, let's... Because there was two different leagues, like the AL and the NL. And the Mets were in the NL and the Yankees were in the AL. And the leagues even had their own logo and president. They were so separate. And they would only meet in the World Series. And there was no such thing outside of the spring training, the preseason. They would only meet... So the Mets, when they first played the Yankees in 1970, it was like the Flintstones meeting the Jetsons. It was crazy. We were going to the games. First, he was at Yankee Stadium. And now nobody cares at all. Like now it's almost like people go to the games, but there's not a lot of buzz. Maybe if both teams were good, the Mets aren't good. But like people, but it's funny, like the purists were throwing up. There was people, probably people saying, I'll never watch a baseball game again. So baseball has a lot of purists. So that's probably the argument against the automatic runner. I have no strong opinion, honestly, either way. Do you know about the Yankees guy on the new season of Survivor? Yes, I heard about that. It's interesting that he's unimportant enough that they let him go. When was the season filmed? I guess that would be April of this past year. Listen, I am someone who season I am. I mean, that's in baseball season. That's when it starts. I am someone who every other year does leave my job for an extended period of time to do another job, ironically. But that being said, I do think there's like if you're like if you're important. Speaker 1 (27:53) you know, it was like, I mean, if you said to Rob, like, Hey, can I have six weeks off to go on survivor? He would be like, this is great for the podcast. But if you're like, Hey, can I have six weeks off to go work at Charles Schwab? He would be like, well, that's going to be annoying. You know, that's kind of the reverse of what, of what, uh, like, can I have six weeks off? I owe a guy money from a haircut and I sort of like him indebted to, I have to do the hair washing at the Cherry Hill mall for the next six weeks. I Speaker 2 (28:20) have to Speaker 1 (28:20) busk. Yeah. I wonder how, do they still do that? They still make you wash dishes if you can't pay for the thing. I wonder, that's, that's something they made up for Speaker 2 (28:29) movies. That's like, it's just for TV. It's not real. Speaker 1 (28:32) Exactly. I think, yeah, it would be, listen, maybe as it is important and, and Brian Cashman is so clueless. He doesn't even know what's happening anyway. But that is interesting. But it's an easy person to root against. I hope he does not win because he's representing the Yankees. Can I say Speaker 2 (28:50) another thing that they made up for movies? Speaker 1 (28:51) Yeah. When you get fired in a movie, they give you Speaker 2 (28:54) the same like nondescript box. They give you Speaker 1 (28:57) a Speaker 2 (28:57) box. Speaker 1 (28:58) Yes. But is Speaker 2 (29:00) it the standard you're being fired box that's Speaker 1 (29:02) in every movie? Do they have the fired box? Should I go in on the HR? Do we have the fired box if someone gets let go? Can you... Can you