BB28 Why ___ Lost Week 10

RHAP: We Know Big Brother

David Bloomberg and Chappelle dissect the double eviction of Barrett and Yash in Big Brother Season 28, analyzing their strategic missteps a

Key takeaways

• Yash's decision to swear on his sister after being misled by Drew was a critical miscalculation rooted in personal belief rather than game strategy.
• The power of emotional manipulation through superstition, like swearing on family, can backfire if not aligned with jury sentiment.

Main topics

• Big Brother strategic mistakes
• Psychological manipulation in reality TV

Notable quotes

You played yourself and got voted out. This is why Blank lost.

Conclusion

Barrett and Yash's evictions were driven by personal beliefs clashing with

Transcript preview

Speaker 2 (0:00) You played yourself and got voted out This is why Blank lost And this is why Blank lost Oh baby, this is why Blank lost Speaker 1 (0:21) Welcome back to a double eviction. Why blank loss? I'm David Bloomberg. And joining me as always is my co-host Chappelle, as we have a lot to talk about from the outcomes of that wild ride on Thursday night. Speaker 2 (0:34) Yeah, the double eviction was fun, David. And, you know, fun double eviction means a lot of work for us. We got to move very quickly to talk about why these people lost, because there were so many different iterations of how this could have happened, what could have gone down. And some very surprising things I'd say happened too, you know, in the doubles. So yeah, I can't wait to discuss how we got here. Speaker 1 (0:55) Yes. Yeah. I was thinking, I mean, I know I made different predictions last week because of course we make those predictions before knowing anything. But by the time we were getting there, I was thinking we'd be talking about Melody and Yash. And I had all sorts of Melody stuff ready to go in my head. But. We have two very active players to talk about instead. And of course, we will do so by following the same path for them as we do every week, comparing how both played to a set of guiding rules I originally wrote way back in 2004 and have modified ever since. We will analyze their actions using what we saw on TV, live feeds, interviews, and other information with the most recent published version of the rules at robhaswebsite.com slash bigbrotherrules. But before we get to all of that, We have some other things to discuss about the week in general, and one of those includes the reason we're not talking about Melody. However, to steal a line from Julie, but first, on Thursday before the episode, I posted two videos on my accounts. One, I was 100 % right about. The other, I did not foresee a big change coming about. So the first one. I talked about Drew swearing on his sister after Yash sniffed out the fake cousin lie. But my point was, it doesn't matter. Swearing on someone is meaningless. And I hoped that he wouldn't hold to it. And he didn't. So good for him. And yet, to our knowledge, unless there is breaking news, his sister Natalie has not been struck down by lightning as of this recording. Speaker 2 (2:34) I've never really understood the swearing on somebody like the, like almost like the, the origin of that. It's just something I've known people will do, right? Like swear on your kids where, but I always thought like, what do you mean by that? And I think that one season of survivor, um, I want to say it's like Fiji or something like that. They're like, so you damn your kids to hell by, uh, wait, I didn't know it was all that, you know, that's what y'all been saying this whole time. You know, uh, why would y'all put y'all family in that position in the first place? But I just never thought that was a thing that I had the power to do. You know, like I know words are powerful, but I've never really felt that way. So anytime somebody's saying, I swear this on this, on this, on this, short of putting your hand on the Bible, I'm really kind of like, hey, do your thing. You know, if you put your hand on the Bible, this is kind of where you lose me because I wouldn't do it. But I also wouldn't judge you for doing it. It's just something that I'm going to do, you Speaker 1 (3:27) know. Right. Yeah. The swearing and damning somebody to hell. I mean, that seems rather unfair. It's like, you know, you end up in hell and you're like, but I don't even do it. You hear, well, you know, you're a brother swore on your life and on your, on your soul. And then he lied. So you're here. Blame him. Oh, wait, you can't. Cause you're stuck here. Sorry. So I think it's usually swearing on their life. And. But even that, it's, yeah, it's, to my mind, I mean, it started certainly when there was a much more heavily oriented belief in that sort of thing. Now, I call it superstition. And I call it, even worse than that, I just call it silliness. Because, you know, other people have said, Dee has said, famously, she said on Survivor, I'll swear on my mom, my dad, my dog, I don't care. Tony swore on everyone, you know? And so, yeah, it is to my mind, absolutely meaningless unless another person puts meaning on it, which Yash clearly did because no, you can't swear on this person who might be fake, but I will agree if you swear on the person who I know is real. And it's like, it's all pretend in the game. Speaker 2 (4:54) Yeah, in the game, it just feels like such a easy button to push for people. If I figure out you're the person who does hold that in high esteem, I can use that to my advantage because I know that you're going to think that's a line I'm not going to cross. But if I'm a person who doesn't mind crossing that line, then yeah, it kind of puts me at an advantage. Now, of course, Yash will eventually go to the jury house and then he can decide whether or not he wants to use that against you. And I think that's also fair game. If you can swear on it. And, you know, and he and make him believe it based on this this rule that he has in his mind or in his beliefs. OK, cool. But he also has the ability to use that same feeling that he had when he gave up, you know, the HOH or the veto or whatever to you. He can use that to place his vote. So I think it's a double edged sword. Personally, again, I wouldn't really care. But again, I can't make that decision for other people. Like you said. I have a hard time believing that me and my God, you know, we're going to have, I'm going to be having a conversation like, what do you mean? My brother played 99 to beat and he swore on my, on my life. What are you talking about? You know, I wasn't even there. I didn't watch that show. What are you talking about? You know? So, uh, it's, it's always interesting when it happens, but I'm always more fascinated to see how the person who is, uh, who's a victim to this, uh, does, uh, react to it. Right. Is Yash going to go in and be like, That's a no starter. You know, I'm not I'm not I cannot give you that vote because you were willing to play with somebody else's life or soul, you know, or are they going to come in and say, man, I shouldn't have fell for that. That was a good. Right. Speaker 1 (6:27) Yeah. And you're right about the jury. And it depends. I think if he tells Angela that after Angela was all put it on your brother, put it on your brother to him, I think. Well, plus, she's mostly biased against Drew anyway. So, you know, I think Angela. And like Lala, they could definitely take that and say, well, there's another reason not to vote for Drew. But someone like D, like let's say D ends up in the jury on the roundtable. She is going to laugh. She is going to laugh at that if someone tries to say, well, we shouldn't vote for him to win because of that reason. So, yeah, it's it depends on the jurors in that situation. But yeah, I think it was Twyla in Survivor. Yeah, it was Twyla. That's who it was. Yeah. She swore on her kids or something like that and went against it. And yeah, the jury ripped her apart for that. Now, that was in the earlier days of reality television. And again, it depends on the jury. If you're already against Twyla, well, that's another reason to rip her apart. Speaker 2 (7:36) Yeah, good point. And I think Angela, if I'm not mistaken, was asked about that and said in the moment, I felt like I felt that strongly about Yash doing Speaker 1 (7:45) that. But I don't care now, you know, Speaker 2 (7:47) Angela immediately switched up. But if it's somebody she doesn't like, you Speaker 1 (7:51) know, now you can use that as a weapon to punish them for how they treated Speaker 2 (7:54) you in the game or, you know, for beating you in the game. And so it's something that to me. It's like that's a break glass in case of an emergency move, because it does have such repercussions if you're doing it to the wrong person. You know, I wouldn't go there immediately because then it loses meaning. You know what I'm saying? You got to have to save it for something. It's like, oh, yeah, your cousin. I would never swear on my cousin. Yasha's like, no, swear on your sister, because I know how you feel about your sister. Your cousin just popped up, you know, so you kind of have to keep that. kind of in the back of your mind, like, oh, maybe there is this one person I should maybe talk up throughout the season. And then if it finally gets there, I was like, okay, you know how I feel about my Uncle John. It's like, oh, yeah, he always talks about his Uncle John. I know Speaker 1 (8:37) he's not lying about that. He's like, okay, there is no Uncle John. You know? So, I don't Speaker 2 (8:42) know. Speaker 1 (8:42) I don't hate it. That's what some people have told me is I would come in with fake relatives just so I could swear on them and talk it up from the beginning, you know? Make it subtle. Right. Right. And so the other thing is, if you're going to swear on someone, you have to be willing to do it for everything. Because I've seen this happen, like in a mafia game of all things, where someone was like, I swear on my sister, I am telling the truth. And I was like, okay. But you realize every time now that we ask you something, you're Speaker 2 (9:13) going to Speaker 1 (9:13) have to swear on your sister because otherwise we're Speaker 2 (9:16) going Speaker 1 (9:16) to know you're lying. Speaker 2 (9:17) Yeah. Yeah. No, that's a good point. You can call him out right then. Just like, yes, we're your sister again. That's where it is. Because I know what you did this time. But swearing sister, just to see just Speaker 1 (9:26) to see how how how beholden you are to it. You know, I just kind of want to judge it. Speaker 2 (9:30) You know, now I now have a baseline for what you will say. And I'm going to hold it against you moving forward. It's a game. But, you know, there Speaker 1 (9:37) are certain pressure points that people hold in higher regard than others. Yeah. Now, some people have pointed out to me in comments on that video that technically the deal was he would vote. However, Yash wanted in the first vote, which he did, and that he wouldn't nominate Yash if he won HOH after that. And so what they're saying is, well, he was therefore OK to vote Yash out because that wasn't part of the deal. Now, can I swear that I remember every, can I swear on my sister, who, by the way, I don't have one, that, you know, I remember every detail of everything they discussed on the live feeds in the middle of the night during that veto count? No. But I know there was discussion. This is a new beginning. You know, all of that extended beyond just those very specific things we saw on the show. Plus, they talked multiple times in secret after the comp as they both acted like they were going to work together. So whether it was specifically on, you know, that oath or just promises made in general, it was still a betrayal of his word. Speaker 2 (10:50) Yeah. And I don't even think, you know, not that the intention matters, but I think Drew was open to the idea of it if it worked out. You know, if it came to it, he's like, yeah, I could do it. And we even saw when he placed his vote where it looked like he, you know, kind of was. you know, toying with the idea. Like, I don't know, you know, so it's not like it was a hundred percent. Like I came in here to lie, to get them on the block, to get them out of here. It was more like a Dan Giesling move, you know, speaking of putting your hand on the Bible. But yeah, I, I, not to say that that takes anything away from it though. You know, it's a lie is a lie. So to me, it still doesn't matter, you know, swear whenever you want, however you want. One of the first things we learned as a big brother fan is that you can bounce checks at the big brother Speaker 1 (11:30) house. Most people learn. There are still, There's still some people in some of my comments saying, nope, I don't like that he lied. And I'm like, okay, so you're a new Big Brother fan. You've never seen it before. I've watched every season. Can't Speaker 2 (11:44) be. Speaker 1 (11:44) How have you watched every season and you still get upset by lying in Big Brother? How? You got to be unhappy. You're Speaker 2 (11:51) watching every season and you're putting yourself through hell because these people are lying constantly. They're lying since the first HOH when they say, oh, I'm definitely not going to vote you out. And then they vote that person out. I don't think anybody in this season or most seasons of Big Brother can say they never told a lie. You know, even Adrian, who refused to lie when it mattered the most. Speaker 1 (12:10) You're still holding on to that. I will never let it go. Speaker 1 (12:15) I think that's because you were the guest co-host then. Your entry into Big Brother Why Blank Lost. That's why it's stuck in your mind. It was trial by fire, David. Okay. I came in thinking like, what do you mean? You won't lie. Are you crazy? And now we've grown so much since then. Yes. Yes. Now, the other video I made was about Melody saying she hadn't accomplished anything in the season yet. And I agreed completely with her because, well. She hadn't won any comp. She hadn't done anything in terms of strategy, et cetera. And I certainly did not expect her to win, well, anything. And then she wins two comps and has to make actual strategic decisions and went with the right one. Where was this melody Speaker 2 (13:07) all season, Chappelle? there are less people competing now. You know, I think everybody's, everybody's in these spots where they have to win or basically go home. And I think it was finally time, right? There are so many types of challenges in Big Brother where that many people can win. There are so many challenges that you just don't stand a chance at if you're not the most athletic person in the house. We saw the wall where like the athletes are going to win. And although people were shocked at Lala winning, she was still an athlete. Lala is ripped, you know? So to come in and be like, all right, yeah, we're shocked because she's an older person who's won that competition. But I mean, you've seen the abs on that lady. The core strength is crazy. So for Melody, she's coming in and she's looking around like, dang, I'm a corporate game show host. How am I going to beat Kamu, the MMA fighter or, you know, Lala, the bodybuilder? You know what I'm saying? There's so many other people. But those people are gone now, you know? So now she has to beat Devin, who's no slouch, but also. doesn't probably have the pedigree that somebody athletically like Kamu would. She doesn't have to be Lala, who's not there anymore. You know, we whittled down the field to a certain group of people. And although they are challenged threats, they're not unstoppable. You know, there are a couple of people who look like they're unstoppable, but if they slip up, Speaker 1 (14:17) you have to take the shot. And that's exactly what they did. Yeah. One of them was stopped this week. Yeah, and I mean, she crushed that ball one. They found her skill right there. I don't know. She's in a flow state. Yeah. Now, it was funny during the rushing around in the double eviction to see Taylor trying to convince Melody to nominate Drew in the moment. And yeah, good for Taylor. She had to take the shot. Yeah. But it wasn't going to happen. And then Taylor got all upset because she seemed to think Melody. didn't understand what would happen. And I think Yash said something similar in one of his interviews. Like, I don't think she understood. It wasn't a matter of not understanding. She fully understood. It was a matter of not trusting Taylor and Yash to keep him. And I don't blame her. Although, I mean, Derek on Unlocked said he did blame her. That Melody made a horrible renom. Like, Derek? Hello? Knock, knock. Hello? No, that's absolutely not true. That's a ridiculous thing to say. Were you actually paying attention or were you busy getting ready for Unlocked? I don't know what's going on. Speaker 2 (15:38) Yeah, I think my issue, and it's more so an issue with the Big Brother fandom and alumni included, so I'm not excluding Derek from this, but... Once the fandom decides in their mind who they think should go home, then it doesn't really matter the logic that these other people use because it just doesn't make sense to you. Right. And so for Derek and these big brother alums, they've been saying, we want the icons out. It doesn't matter how the icons could benefit your game in the moment. It doesn't matter what the icons could do for you. We want them out. So when they see the chance to take out an icon in this spot or, you know. They're like, why would you take out D? Why wouldn't you take out D? Why wouldn't you put up Drew? Why would you like, hey, Yash is going to win out if you don't take him out the game. The man has won. He's been immune for seven weeks. They couldn't have got him if they wanted to a bunch of times. This is the chance to take the shot. And for Melody, she's like, Yash being in the game later on does not benefit me either. Yeah. D being gone is not great. I mean, D being here is not great for me. But is Josh being here great for me? You know who is potentially great for her? Drew. Drew might actually keep her around because they have a flirt man. They've been, you know, trying to work out this final two thing for a very long time. It seems like it's about to lock in. She's running out of options. Why would she want to be on an island or the third to Taylor and Josh? You know, it doesn't make sense for her to risk her own ally because she doesn't have any more. I don't know. To me. It's very simple that you wouldn't put up your number one in this situation. But for Derek, he's like, but we got to get an icon out. You got to get these. Speaker 1 (17:17) Hey, you're not looking at this from Melody's point of view. Well, and you're assuming that Yash and Taylor are telling the truth. Now, Yash later said in interviews that he would have voted D out in that situation. But we don't know what Taylor would have done. I mean, maybe they would have stood by their word. Maybe we, we have no idea. And as we'll talk about, I think later when we get to the rules, they kind of threw away their credibility the week before with melody. So how do you expect melody to do that? So just Derek saying that is just like, was mind blowing to me. And it's yeah. And there's still people, there are still plenty of people out there saying it too, which, you know, that's one reason I wore this shirt. I may be wrong. But it's highly unlikely. So let's, you know, and that applies to both things that we've talked about here because no, no, I'm just not. Sorry. Speaker 1 (18:17) All right, we can move on to our Julie Chen Moonves is wrong about Blake. But for the third week in a row, she didn't say anything particularly horribly wrong. Now, there were a few smaller things I'll get to in a moment. But in her weekly Dalton Ross interview, she was surprisingly on point about both Barrett and Yash. She even asked Barrett questions after he was evicted and hit on some of the very topics we're going to talk about. Now, I won't go into details now because the rules are for it to discuss those. But I have to be honest, it's freaking me out a little bit. Like, did they actually hire a good intern to keep her updated on what's going on? Speaker 2 (18:59) I hope they pay an intern. I do, you know, because that person is working hard. I think Big Brother has done such a good job in. revamping and elevating the game. I think that the original Big Brother was amazing. Big Brother 2 through 10, those are great seasons of television. You really get to see the social interactions with these people, different walks of life and all that kind of stuff. And then we know there's some leadership changes and the production, it really goes in a different direction. And it gets really wacky for a while to where it's kind of like, what are we watching? What is this show even? And then they all game the system. They figure it out. And then it becomes boring at some points, you know, where it's like, OK, this interesting stuff could happen. But we got these people winning comps and everybody's just like saying it's a big, massive alliances. And Big Brother has been around for so long that they've had to pivot and try different things. And every season we get different twists. But now Big Brother has really been promoting itself as a show that people should come and watch more. You know, the social media presence is on point these days. You can tell they have younger eyes on it. It's really trying to like stay. kind of in the moment. We hear people on the show that say, why do they call this show Big Brother? You know, they have not, they don't, the show's been on so long that people don't even know how it originated, where it came from. And that's fine. But because of that, Big Brother still has to stay relevant. It has to find a way to stay on the front of people's minds. And so it did that. But now you have to make sure your host is up to date too. You know, I think that Survivor does a bad job about this. I think Jeff Probst is trying to like, he's desperately grasping for these things, right? Bring in Mr. Beast. You know, I'm going to rap for you. Things like that. It's like, hey, that's that's not what we're looking for here. Maybe the Mr. Beast thing was cool. I think the coin flip does, you know, turn out to be decent television. But I think that Big Brother has now if if this is a streak, I will say, because, Julie, you've been you've been wrong a lot. But it does feel like there's somebody in her ear or, you know, on the cue cards saying, here are the talking points for the week. We know you don't watch the show closely, but you look silly. when you say things like this. And I think it helps because Julie is the face of the show. So she, if she lacks credibility, then the show lacks credibility. You can't have the, the, the host of the show coming in and saying crazy stuff. Cause then you're like, I'm not listening to that or I'm not watching that. Or I'll just watch the feed. You know, I'll just watch the feeds or I'll just listen to the updates. Like, no, Julie, you need to get tapped in like everybody else. So I'm happy to see it. Speaker 1 (21:20) Yeah. And. I'm going to take credit for it because we have this segment. She listens to this podcast. Speaker 2 (21:26) Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1 (21:27) I think clearly someone is listening to this podcast and hearing us or, you know, the videos that I was putting out that I do put out when we have the segment, you know, saying, look, here are the things that she did wrong. I, I sometimes tag her in them. Although usually her Instagram tagging is disallowed for some reason. But, but a big brother, you know, I tagged big brother. So if social media, if. They have social media people going, look, look, we keep seeing these videos about Julie being wrong. Now, do I really think that? No. But hey, I'm going to take credit for it anyway. And so, you know, we did this. Speaker 1 (22:09) I will say that, like I said, she wasn't right about everything here. She thought Melody should have nominated Drew instead of Yash when Devin's vetoed himself. And she said this in her interview with Dalton Ross. But she admitted she needed to go back and listen to the last minute strategizing, which to me. Is code for I need to go back and have the intern explain it to me. Speaker 2 (22:43) Yeah. Speaker 1 (22:43) Because do we really think she's going to go back and watch the last minute strategy? No. Speaker 2 (22:49) It'd be wild for Julie to become a fan of the show now, you know, to really get invested in the show because we know she has her favorites. Julie definitely has the people that she likes. She's seen the edited show. But for Julie to really get like tapped in on the strategy. Yeah, I think that's welcomed. I think that's a welcome change. You know, I don't, like you said, I don't really believe that Julie's like, okay, let me go. Let me go like tap in and see what's going on. But it would be nice. It really would. So that you're not saying things that, you know, make you look silly. To me, I just feel like the houseguests, they're in there so long, right? They have so many conversations. And so to just take... you know, this like 13 second clip and make it the whole reason this person lost or the whole reason this person should have gone home or should have been on the block. It's like it's not really looking holistically at the show. And if you're going to have cameras on these people 24 hours a day, 24 hours a day, you know, then why not utilize the things that you learn throughout the whole season? I Speaker 1 (23:47) mean, that's the whole point of why it's lost. Right. Right. The other thing she got wrong. was that she said in her interview that she loved how Yash stuck to his lie about the BB broad. Now we'll talk about that later, but spoiler alert, there's nothing to love about that. So yeah, she was still wrong about a couple of things, but for her huge improvement. Good week, Julie. Good week for Julie. Good few weeks for Julie. Speaker 2 (24:16) Yeah. Speaker 1 (24:19) All right, well, we can move on to the actual players we are here to discuss because Barrett and Yash both made significant mistakes in the past week. Maybe not the ones people think, but the type that were worthy of them getting evicted because of those mistakes. Instant karma doesn't always work out. But did it here to take them both out in one night? Or were there other factors that played bigger roles for each of them? It's time to find out because at RJP, we know Big Brother. And we know why Barrett and Yash lost. Now, the first and most important rule is, of course, to scheme a plot. And we know Barrett came into Big Brother understanding this. While it's somewhat unclear if Yash did. But as Yash was learning, it seemed like Barrett had kind of this inverse response. Not that he lost knowledge, but lost the will to use that knowledge. But starting with Barrett, we, of course, know, He was in the crossovers and the tool shed. He was locked in with the icons. Plus he had a final two withdrew the jugglers. And we can't forget FAP as well. I'm not going to do a demonstration of that. Speaker 2 (25:35) For those, Speaker 1 (25:40) for those who are just doing the audio, I actually did juggle when I said the jugglers, that's why I mentioned. Speaker 1 (25:51) I have broken Chappelle. You got me. Early on, he told us flat out in a camera talk that he wanted to be seen as a puppy dog fanboy of the icons for the moment. And he certainly was, with some viewers seeming to forget that he was doing this on purpose, as opposed to Drew, who I think just was a puppy dog fanboy of the icons. But, you know, that's a different story for a different day. Speaker 2 (26:21) I like that he articulated his strategy. That's something that a lot of Big Brother players don't do, or maybe they don't have the strategy. But because we know that Barrett was saying from jump, okay, I'm going to get in good with the icons and then I'll go from there. You know, I was very happy with the scheming and plotting he was doing. He was in the conversation. Now, the icons were definitely in charge, you know, because they were able to move around and create other alliances in a way that he wasn't. Now, he was in a couple of them. with them, but they were definitely the leaders of these alliances that he was a part of. So there's definitely more scheming and plotting he could have done. You know, they were outflanking him in a lot of ways because had they decided on a whim that it should have been Barrett or Drew, then it would have been Barrett or Drew. You know, he didn't have enough defense. It was definitely in good and he was doing what he needed to do. We saw, I've talked about this before. We saw him doing so much cuddling with Dee and, you know, the whole Drew and Devin's thing that they were doing. Like he was in good with them, but, you know, he was doing it at the detriment of FAP, you know, the people that he actually considered his friends. And, you know, he was allowing the icons to make other connections. Like, again, if the red corner had decided. all right, we're, you know, the cross, well, not the crossovers, but the red corner, you know, the Thogmu or Chogmu. And then the icons decided there, okay, we're going to take out Barrett instead of Mallory, or we're going to take out Barrett instead of Drew. Then he would have gone home. He didn't have a lot of other outside connections like that. So he was doing a lot of scheming and plotting, but there's definitely things he could have Speaker 1 (27:58) done better. Yeah. And, you know, it didn't take him long to realize where he stood. Situations happened like he was pressured by Devins to vote out Mallory much earlier than Mallory actually got voted out. The first go round of that. But he also knew, as he discussed in interviews, that within that alliance, there were at least three big threats ahead of him as shields. So it was a fairly safe spot to be for the first part of the game. Plus, D was protecting him from Chagmu. You know, in return, he passed along information like telling D and Devins about Lala's meeting where there was that discussion of targeting the icons and talking about them as big threats. And he was biding his time. Yeah. Speaker 2 (28:49) So I mean, yeah. So I don't mind biding your time. Right. Especially if you put in the work, like you said, with D, he was putting in the work. So it's not like she just saved him on a whim. She knew that this was somebody that she could count on to to really have her back later on. Or at least she thought. Right. Or to an extent, I guess I should say. And so, yeah, I agree that it's not by happenstance that. Barrett makes it this far. Whereas there's some people who make it this far in the game and they can't really tell you how they got there. They just were there by the grace of other people instead. Speaker 1 (29:22) Yeah. Yeah. And I think he probably would have kept biding his time a bit longer, but then we saw what happened. The icons convinced him and drew to bring Mallory and melody into the mosh pit, giving assurances of safety, which they then immediately broke when. He, Melody and Mallory all foolishly threw the HOH comp to let Dee win, which led directly to Mallory's eviction. And this made Barrett realize that he was not in a trustworthy alliance. To further emphasize this, he saw or we saw, well, both of us saw the ridiculous situations like Angela walking into the storage room where he and Drew were talking and just saying out of the blue, I trust you. which he described as low budget movie acting. And then D told Barrett the full truth about the bribe, meaning he knew that she could have made him safe as well and didn't. Every bone in his body told him they did not trust him and they would be coming after him. And all those bones were right. He tried twice to make moves against them, wanting to vote out Drew and then Devins. but both won blockbusters that prevented it. So when he won HOH, it was time to make the move. And look, I know we've talked about it already. There are people who say Barrett made the wrong move where he did it too soon. We discussed this on last week's podcast. The answer is no, you're wrong. It was final eight. The very soonest he could possibly have power again was final six. If he had won HOH again, which, you know, against people who were better at comps generally, it had to be done when he did it. But now that he was evicted, there are some results oriented people saying, see, told you. No, the answer is still no. The answer did not change. I mean, Angela claimed while walking out the door that it was the wrong move. But meanwhile, you had D. And let me tell you, I value D's strategic thoughts a lot more than I value Angela's. You know, D told Angela it was the right move in terms of making a big move. Emotions aside. It was a good move. And it was because it wasn't the move or the timing that was the problem here. It was what happened after that, mostly when he stayed in his room and didn't follow through. Speaker 2 (32:01) Yeah, I said it last week and I stand by it. He he was guilted, you know, and it worked and it worked. It was is a strategy that people have used to be brother time and time again. Whereas you get these, you form these close relationships so people don't put you on the block. Now, Barrett, maybe he didn't always intend on putting the icons on the block, but based on their actions throughout the season, he knew it had to be done. He knew they needed to sit next to each other. He's a fan of the show. And so, you know, he knows deep down that even though he loves these people to death, he knows I look crazy not putting them, these two survivor players up on the block next to each other. That'd be insane for somebody like Barrett. And so he has so many things saying, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. But when he did it, it didn't feel good. It didn't feel good. It's like his brain said, do it. But his heart was like, nah, I like these people. I love these people. You know, I've seen Devin struggle with that throughout the season where he's about to make a cutthroat move, but he's just, you know, trying to make it just slide, just massage it in there. Like, oh. Speaker 2 (33:02) you and this is all like hey we're used to people just put you on the block and just being okay with it you're on the block and you might go home and that's it um barrett was not okay with it and they weren't okay with it when uh when barrett did it to them so they complained and they whined and they moaned and he hid Barry went and got away from that. And I empathize because I can't do it. I don't like when people are sobbing and stuff like that. I don't like to see people sad. It's just not a thing for me. And so when people start to act like that, I'm definitely going to run. But I'm not playing a game for $750,000 either. And so you have to suck it up. You have to get down there. You have to continue. to make sure your plans are going to go through. And he did not follow through at all. And he left these two capable big brother players in Devins and D both downstairs to do their bidding, to work their magic. And he just took his eye off the ball and they managed to get this right Speaker 1 (33:57) past him. Yeah, exactly. I mean, he needed to be moving in that house, being in discussions, talking to Yash and Taylor, playing defense against D and Devins, but he didn't. I mean, even Julie's cue card intern knew it. And he acknowledged to Julie that quote in hindsight, he should have tried to keep an eye on Taylor and Yash. The thing is he should have had the foresight to do that. Speaker 2 (34:22) Yeah. Speaker 1 (34:23) Tough. Yeah. And then after he became a target because of it. You know, people are saying, oh, see, he went out because of that. Well, he still needed to lose the blockbuster to Melody. Melody, what are the odds of that happening? Come on. And all of that, all of the things that happened there that we just talked about are independent of the timing of the move. And I'm glad that Barrett has been steadfast about that. He told Julie he stood by it. He said the same in interviews, such as telling Mike Bloom, there was no question in my mind what I wanted to do. And I would do that again. I would do it a million times. There's a path for me to win this game through the move that I made. And I knew that it could put me in the position where I am right now as the very next juror that went out. I love the icons. I was loyal to the icons for the majority of this game. But do I regret putting any of them up on the block when I had a chance to? Absolutely not. And that to me is. a key point as well. Without making this move, he had no chance to win. And people who listen to me, especially in the Survivor podcasts, know I often advise strongly against the unnecessary big move. But... That wasn't the case here. There comes a time when you have to do something. And that time was now for Barrett. He also told Mike Bloom, I would look like a fool if I rode to final five with the people who literally just backstabbed