Ep 1366 | Why is Tucker’s Show Whitewashing Islam?

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Blaze Podcast Network

The episode critiques Tucker Carlson’s portrayal of Islam as historically kind to Christians, fact-checking claims about Ottoman rule and highlighting Christian persecution. It also addresses IVF complications and shares

Key takeaways

• Ottoman Empire imposed Jizya tax on non-Muslims

Transcript preview

Have Muslims actually been super sweet to Christians throughout history? That is the claim that Tucker Carlson's latest guest is making on his show. We're going to fact check that and see if his claims are actually true. Also, a couple who used IVF gave birth to a baby that is not actually theirs. This is not a rare situation. This has actually happened many times over the past several years because of our unregulated fertility industry in the United States. So we'll look at this story and so many more. Then we've got some voicemail of Relatable. It's brought to you by our friends at good ranchers. Go to good ranchers. Go to good ranchers. Code Allie. I don't have to look on social media to figure that out I don't have to look out there for a sign because God's word lays it out really plainly what's gonna happen Jesus wins in the end and all of this seeming hopelessness in this despair in this distress in the chaos and the confusion electing communists in the state of New York that want to destroy America the jihad that seems to be running amok everywhere in Western civilization that's all gonna come to an end as well as every election every political endeavor, every single act of selfish ambition at the expense of the vulnerable, all of that will end and Jesus will rule in perfect peace forever and ever and we will have eternal joy. There will be no more sadness, there will be no more sickness, there will be no more sin, no more abortion, no more murder, no more violence, no more war, no more confusion, no more doctrinal disputes, no more doctrinal disputes, no more will be with him in perfect peace as the body of Christ, worshiping Jesus forever and ever. And that is our hope. Yes, we have liberation from sin in this life. We have this life, we have community with the body of believers. We have so many sources of joy and the gifts of common grace that everyone else has that we get to enjoy the beauty of creation and we get to look forward to that perfect paradise. where we're in perfect communion with Christ forever and ever. If you want to know how to get there or how to know absolutely for sure 10 out of 10 that that's something that's going to happen for you after you die or when Jesus comes back there's not some mystery secret prayer there's not something that you have to do to clean yourself off or to make yourself good enough for God's love and acceptance there's actually nothing you can do. You're a sinner I'm a sinner. We're too sinful for a holy God, even if you're a sinner I'm a sinner. once or if you've committed a long list of moral atrocities, we are separated from God. And so that's why we needed a perfect sacrifice for sin, because all sin requires sacrifice, and God sent that because he loves us so much in the form of his only son Jesus who died on the cross, a death that he didn't deserve to die on our behalf, paying for a sin so that those who by grace through faith believe in him for salvation will have eternal life. And so we're reconciled to God. of God, we have boldness and access with confidence to the throne of God, and Jesus is the one that is advocating for us and his spotless record becomes ours. God's eternal plan of redemption through Jesus is going off without a hitch. He is seeking and saving the lost. There's nothing that surprises him. And God uses the mostly unseen and unsung faithfulness of believers to accomplish his will. You're not always going to see that on social media, on Instagram, on Tik-talk, on Tik-talk, on acts, you're not going to see that as a headline in the news. So much of what God does seems mysterious or seems unknown to the rest of the world, but we get to participate in it. And it's not always going to go viral or make a headline, and yet it makes a splash in eternity. Nothing is meaningless in the life of the believer because we are all part of that eternal plan of redemption. Amen. So I like to start out my Mondays with that, reminding myself of that, reminding you of that because it's a really good news and y'all sometimes we need some good news especially in the craziness that is going on in the world and I'm not just talking about all of the wars and all the violence and all the scary things those of us who are raising kids in this world we want to make them so brave and so strong and so wise and so discerning to be able to not just determine what's the difference between right and wrong that's a big one but what's the difference between good and best what's the difference between something that sounds good and is And when we have sources that we have trusted for a long time, when we have people that we have relied on for wisdom and insight to peer into the craziness of politics and culture and tell us what is true, suddenly say things or agree with things, assent to things that are insane, it can be very disorienting. We've talked a lot. I've talked on this show and on other people's show about this strange shift that is going on, these things. It can be very disorienting. soft peddling of Islam that is happening on the right. The kind of, I don't know how else to say it except for propagandizing of Islam, the downplaying of Christian persecution in Muslim countries, the propping up of Islam in an effort to say that Christianity and Islam are essentially the same that were very similar. We talked a few weeks ago about the Tucker Carlson network put out a post. saying, you know, Muslims, they love Jesus, they revere Jesus. They regard Jesus as a prophet and they didn't say anything about what Jewish people believe about Jesus, but when I've seen other people bring that up, it's typically to try to contrast what Jewish people in the Talmud says about Jesus. And at the time, we talked about that and we made plain look, it doesn't matter if you think Jesus was a good guy, if you think Jesus was a bad guy, if you think Jesus was a bad guy. If you think Jesus is somewhere boiling and how, and how, and how, and how, and how, and how, and how, you think Jesus was just a mortal man who was killed by the Roman Empire because of threatening Roman power. All of those things are wrong and they're equally wrong. If you don't believe John 14 6 that Jesus is the way the truth of life, then no one comes to the Father except through him. If you don't believe John 316 that God sent his only son that whoever believes in him will not perish and have everlasting life, you are equally wrong and that that that that So I see no need to like look at the theology of all of these non-Christian religions and say oh who is closest to Christianity that's not the game that we're called to play we are called to make disciples of all nations that's all nations in the Middle East that includes Israel that includes Saudi Arabia that includes guitar that includes every single nation on earth Christians are called to preach the gospel and there is one gospel there's not another one so what exactly is going on theological play that is happening to try to conflate Islam with Christianity and in fact it is to turn a blind eye to what is happening in these African countries in these Middle Eastern countries against Christians at the hands of a Muslim majority which by the way has been characteristic of the relationship between Christianity and Islam throughout history but now we're trying to rewrite history and once again we see this on Tucker Carlson's show guest former pastor whose name is J.D. Hall and he has decided to give us a new history lesson about what it was actually like for Christians and the ancient Ottoman Empire and here's what he's got to say. So at one. The Ottomans didn't charge churches tax and so when the Ottomans were in control of the promised land for 400 years, in the millit system, they didn't charge churches tax. Israel started just a few years ago. And their Muslim rulers didn't do that during the Ottoman period. Okay, so the answer is no. The Muslim rulers didn't tax churches during the Ottoman period. They were very kind to Christians. Well, fact check that. In just a second, y'all, if you are tired of the chaos and the noise and you're like, I could use a respite from all of that. And I just need a refreshment. I need a refreshment. I need, I need a refreshment. I need, I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need a break. I need I need some community to be with some like-minded people. Tell me what is true. Okay? We're not just talking about what is true politically. Tell me what is true politically, eternally. Tell me what is true about the soul, about the world, about the future. Help me to turn right from wrong. You got to come to share the arrows. Okay? This is a women's conference, and that's what it's about. It is about biblical truth. This is a gospel-centered, theologically rich, And I have been so blessed to be a part of this and watch this grow and lead this for the past few years with my husband and it's just been such a wonderful blessing. I want you to be a part of it. October 10th, Dallas, Texas, Share the arrows.com. We will have Rosario Butterfield, Lisa Childers, Kosti hen, Shane and Shane and many more. It's going to be so wonderful y'all. I cannot wait. Get your tickets. We are expecting to sell out in the next couple of months. Go to go to share the This year's Share The Arrows is brought to you by our friends at range leather. Go to Share the Arrows.com. Before we get back into it, let me go ahead and tell you about my first sponsor. For the day, it's also one of my favorite companies ever because I use their products every day. In fact, I am wearing their blush right now. Adela Natural Cosmetics has amazing natural cosmetics that I just love. They're so good for your skin. So moistur. I've got their pink coral blush on as we speak. And I especially love it in the summer, really all, really all year. Really all year. Really all year. Really all year. to say because my skin can be dry, but my skin can also be dry in the wintertime and all of their stuff is so moisturizing. It's also why I use their essential cleanser every day. It's an oil-based cleanser, a cleanser, so the texture you'll have to get a little bit used to, but it does such a good job of cleaning my skin, but also helping my skin feel refreshed, feel, as possible and Adele is the holistic way to do that. Plus it is unapologetically family centered Jesus First, Pro Life in everything they do even in their packaging. So this is the cosmetic skin care company that you want to support. Go to Adele Natural Cosmetics.com use code Ali. You'll get 25% off your first purchase and you will become a raving fan. Adele Natural Cosmetics.com. Code Ali. So this guest JD Hall does exactly this song and dance of saying well actually Islam throughout history was pretty friendly to Christians contrasting as to how Jewish people throughout history has treated Christianity he talks about the Ottoman Empire you heard him make the claim that Muslim rulers didn't tax churches during the Ottoman period they were very kind to Christian so let's break this down first the Ottoman Empire lasted from about 22 it was an Islamic empire founded by Turkish rulers that grew to control much of Southeast Europe, the Middle East, North Africa, Anatolia, and Christians occupied the space. So to Jewish people. And so is it true that how the Muslim majority treated these religious minorities, especially Christians, was one of kindness and that the pilgrims were protected as they were making their way through this part or through the empire. Now, let me pause and tell you that. my knowledge of this largely comes from an incredible scholar and incredible historian named Raymond Ibrahim. We've had him on the show before. He wrote a book. He's written several books, but one of his books, I think the best book on this is The Sword and The Cemetery. And I really encourage you to read that book, go back, listen to, watch that episode. He's not coming from necessarily a theological perspective, or an ideological perspective. He's just coming from a historical and scholarly perspective. He's just coming from a historical and scholarly perspective. of the relationship between Christianity and Islam throughout history and he paints the accurate picture of what it has looked like and the conflict and the carnage that has been mostly large and completely originated by the Muslims who wanted to conquer Christians. So specifically about this claim about the taxes that Christians, that Christians were specifically taxed but Christians were subject to special taxes. They weren't just safe because the Muslims wanted to protect the Christians in the ancient Ottoman Empire. They had to pay an extra tax called the Jizia that was imposed on non-Muslims. That was the only way to guarantee any kind of protection. It's true that the Ottomans allowed religious communities to govern many of their own affairs. This is true of many places at the time, but non-Muslims remained second-class subjects in addition to paying extra taxes they face restrictions on churches on evangelism legal rights dress bearing arms the same is true today but even more so in most of these Muslim countries discuss shady Hall says that Muslims were very kind to Christians but of course that part is just not true the Islamic Ottoman Empire persecuted Christians for centuries killed them enslaved them for centuries so let me give you an example has heard of Constantinople. Most people, Christian or not, have heard of Constantinople. So the Ottoman conquest of Constantinople marked the end of the Byzantine Empire. It transformed the city, which was Christianity's most significant city at the time, or at least one of them, into the capital of an Islamic state. So for more than a thousand years, Constantinople had served as the center of Eastern Orthodox Christianity. It was named after Constantine, the great, the first Roman emperor to convert to Christianity. And previously defeated the Arab siege of Constantinople in 718 AD, preserving early Christianity against a Muslim onslaught. But then Constantinople fell in 1453, and this was this huge watershed moment in history, and it signaled the collapse of the last remnant of the Roman Empire. So when the city's defenses gave way, thousands of civilians crowded into the Hagia, the city's Ottoman troops led by Sultan Mehmed. The second forced their way inside and the refuge became the scene of looting, enslavement, widespread abuse, including mass rape. Eyewitnesses, we have eyewitness testimony from this when Constantinople, this Christian city fell. And here's one eyewitness by account of the taking of Constantinople in 1453 by Thomas that Park. Okay, then he, Sultan Mehmed II, the second seized one of the Grand Duke's daughters who was was quite beautiful and made her lie on the great altar of the Hagia, Sophia, with a crucifix under her head and then raped her. Then the most brutish of the Turks seized the finest noble woman, virgins and nuns of the city, and