10-06-26 Part One - MAGA Clings To Their Leader

Red Eye Radio

The hosts examine whether the MAGA base will maintain support for President Trump ahead of the midterm elections amid his prolonged military engagement in Iran and rising

Key takeaways

• President Trump faces conservative backlash for extending military action in Iran instead of delivering a quick resolution as initially promised.
• The hosts argue that Republican policy missteps are fixable through internal debate, whereas they view Democratic platforms on energy and healthcare as fundamentally unfixable.

Main topics

• Midterm election dynamics
• MAGA base loyalty and Trump's Iran policy

Notable quotes

"Anything that the Republicans are doing is correctable. Anything the Democrats are doing is pure insanity and is not correctable."

Conclusion

The episode underscores the hosts' conviction that conservative voters mus

Transcript preview

Speaker 1 (0:07) Now, it's Red Eye Radio. Gary McNamara and Eric Hurley talk about everything from politics to social issues and news of the day. Whether you're up late or you're just starting your day, welcome to the show. From the Relief Factor Studios, this is Red Eye Radio. Speaker 2 (0:26) All across America, we are Red Eye Radio. He is Eric Hurley and I'm Gary McNamara. Speaker 2 (0:32) So. What happened to me yesterday is, you know, normal stuff. In fact, I was getting ready. It delayed me going out and putting the fire ant killer on my lawn. All right. Because we've got so much rain and the temperature's cooled down, the fire ants are going to be all over the place in the next couple of days. So I like to prevent that on my lawn. And so I was getting ready to do that. And, of course, YouTube is on. And as you and I both do, we pay $13, $14 a month. not to get the commercials on YouTube, which makes it a completely different experience. Yeah. Because commercials aren't cutting right in the middle of something. And so it's great. So what comes on yesterday, which captures my attention, and I probably watched two and a half hours of different cases, and it just came up in random shuffle, the first one, and I started watching it. And it was people. in in court and a lot of it's minor like traffic infractions or whatever and Speaker 6 (1:38) a Speaker 2 (1:39) lot of it was in ohio and i think there must be a group of people and it's the judges who face these people who say that the court has no authority over them Speaker 2 (1:53) And it was like Tucker Carlson. That's what I thought of. This is like Tucker Carlson trying to argue that the Nazis wouldn't have taken over all of Europe. And so England shouldn't have got involved in it as he was talking the other day. Because there's an arrogance. There's a certainty in all of their BS. And I just, I found it. Like the Speaker 8 (2:23) debate is over and they've won the debate. Speaker 2 (2:25) Yes. Much like the Speaker 8 (2:26) DSA. Speaker 2 (2:27) Yes. Yeah, exactly. And, but I'm watching, I'm like, oh my God, this is like watching Tucker Carlson, you know? And then when they don't have the answer and then when the judge finally confronts them, they change the topic to something else. It's Speaker 1 (2:41) like, Speaker 2 (2:41) no, no, no, we're on this. You don't get to do that in my court. answer this question and they won't. They moved. No, but you don't understand because it's like, I understand. But the best part was that this, this one judge. This guy had the. Speaker 2 (2:57) I can't even give you an example of who I can compare this judge to for the patience that this judge had. Speaker 2 (3:06) And, you know, the people would be talking, you know, as the prosecutor's talking, because they're all defending themselves. You know, they don't want a lawyer because a lawyer is part of the system. Speaker 2 (3:19) And so they're talking, and he's just continuing, and the prosecutor continues, and at the end finds him guilty of contempt of court, of course, because, you know, they're the one person in contempt of court. Speaker 2 (3:34) and then goes through an entire explanation. Speaker 2 (3:41) as to exactly how the system works and why it works. And does it in a calm, right at the person listening, he goes, no, please, you know, stop talking, whatever, and continues it and goes through. This is how the system runs. The entire legal system in less than probably three minutes, he goes through and talks about the, you know, that law comes from the elected representatives. of the people and where the Constitution comes from. And the fact that what you're reading on the Internet is incorrect. This is how it works. Now, another judge didn't put up with it. The person just goes, I told you to be quiet. And he goes, don't smirk at me like that. One more smile like that, 30 days. He smiles. He goes, 30 days. And then the guy comes back again. What are you in for? Speaker 3 (4:33) Smiling. Speaker 2 (4:34) The guy comes back again. And he sits there and starts yapping off. He goes, okay, back to jail. Like he didn't even get it was like, if you don't, you've already been through it. You've got 30 days. I've told you, you must act this way. If you don't, well, that shows that the court, you know, doesn't represent the people because of common law, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's their evidence. because they do what none of us would ever do in court to a judge and figure if they can't be in contempt of court, then the justice system is unfair. And of course, what they're trying to do is delay and stall and do whatever. But the best part was the entire, which took me into roaring laughter, this one guy who was really just, he was just... By the time I got to the third judge, I'm like, look, could you give them the death penalty, please? Speaker 8 (5:35) Well, if they move the case to Texas, there's a pretty good chance of that. Speaker 2 (5:41) Jaywalking? Okay. They were so obnoxious. And finally, the judge says, listen, Mr. Magoo. It was the guy's name, Mr. Magoo. I lost it at that point. The Speaker 8 (5:52) guy's name was Magoo? The Speaker 2 (5:54) guy's real name was Magoo, yeah. He goes, listen, Mr. Magoo. He Speaker 8 (5:58) wasn't in court to legally change his name? No. Because I would have been years ago. Speaker 2 (6:03) And, oh, I don't know if, no, it was another guy. This one guy said, is this your name? No. My name is, and it was his name, Living Person. Speaker 8 (6:13) Smedley Bolivar. I mean, it was just, it's Speaker 2 (6:16) like, you know, Gary McNamara, living person. So you're Gary McNamara. No, you have the wrong name. My name is Gary McNamara, living person. Well, could you present evidence, you know, of that? I can't because you've got me in jail for contempt of court. Speaker 3 (6:33) Like the time when one of my vehicles I owned in the past, it actually asked me, how would you like for me to refer to you? You know, so you could say your first name, you could say Mr. Harley in my case, or, and I said, my Lord. Joking. And then Speaker 8 (6:52) I was. No way, really? Yeah. And so I was with my sister or somebody and we were traveling and I asked it a question and it said, yes, how can I help you, my Lord? Speaker 8 (7:09) It remembered after all that time, and I had forgotten completely. And I was like, did it just call me my Lord? Oh, yeah, that little joke. Yeah, you know, the courtrooms. There are some of those little traffic things. You know, this really all comes from... I guess going back to Wapner, right? Speaker 3 (7:32) And then Judge Judy and everything else. But our interest in weird court cases of people, you know, doing things that you probably shouldn't be doing in court or things you probably shouldn't have done to get into court. Speaker 3 (7:45) And then there's the other, that one judge, and I forget his name, but he's always nice to people. Speaker 2 (7:52) The guy from Rhode Island? Yeah, yeah. He died. He just died. Yeah, yeah, he just passed Speaker 3 (7:55) away. I think we talked about it then. And his videos are just great. And it's like he's the one guy. I'm a single dad. And what's his name, Ron? Frank Caprio. Yeah. So, but a great demeanor. And a lot of these things were, you know, parking ticket kind of things. And there was, you know, the one, I think there was a single dad. And he said, you know, my car broke down and I ended up having to walk and I was late for my first court date or something like that. And he goes, you know what? We're going to dismiss this. We're going to consider it paid. Or your fine is $1 or whatever, you know. And then he moved on. But it's always interesting when you get the, when it's the other way around. Speaker 3 (8:46) And the people who have played the system or think that they're playing the system. Watch the documentary the other day on Netflix called The Widower. This guy played the system. Speaker 3 (9:02) Four of his ex- Six wives ended up deceased, as in dead. And then he's accused of killing a couple of them. including his last wife. And the way that he would play the system, one wife that passed away, he blamed it on the hospital, sued the hospital, actually got a payout. They got a settlement from the hospital. So everybody, you know, all the other witnesses that were basically against him were saying, this guy is just making money hand over fist because he takes out a life insurance policy. The wife somehow ends up dead. And then he's accused of killing at least two of those four. But one of the things that he would do. is he would get a lawyer that would go through the process, which takes a long time. And then right at the end, he would fire the lawyer, which delays the process another two years. And it was watching this guy play the system. I mean, it was wild. It was like watching the head of a mob family do what they do in a movie. Because you wouldn't believe this story otherwise. I've never seen anybody play the system like this, according to this documentary. And it really came from a guy who was a producer on Dateline that followed it until I guess after he was on Dateline and then he wanted to follow up with the end of it. And he put together this documentary. And I thought to myself, you know, there are people out there that, quite frankly, are pretty stupid. This guy was, I don't know how he knew the system, but he faced the death penalty twice. He's now serving life in prison, but he faced the death penalty twice and beat the death penalty both times. But finally, in the end, it caught up with him. And it was, I mean, it was just unreal how this guy was playing the system. Speaker 3 (11:06) And, you know, I kind of expected that from Brian Koberger. who killed the Idaho University students, or who was convicted of doing that, and he, you know, there was just that smug attitude that he had in court. Speaker 3 (11:27) We saw this from Luigi. Speaker 3 (11:30) the man accused of killing Brian Thompson. you know, the smile in the courtroom. These people think that they won or they think they're heroes. Speaker 3 (11:41) because the left, in the case of Luigi, made... Luigi a hero. Speaker 6 (11:47) Just to note, Kohlberger pleaded guilty. He wasn't found Speaker 3 (11:50) guilty. Right, right, yes. And so, which is effectively the same thing. Right. Yes. And so, he was convicted. And I think that's the word I use or meant to use. So, he's convicted of killing them. And the reason he's convicted is because of the overwhelming evidence. The reason he did the plea deal is because there was really no way around it. Speaker 3 (12:15) There was no way around the DNA evidence. You know, and there were a lot of frustrating moves along that way, but he just had this. Speaker 3 (12:26) throughout the entire thing that he was smarter than anybody else in the courtroom. Bundy had that. Yeah. Oh, Bundy. You remember Bundy coming out of the elevator with the prosecutor? Speaker 6 (12:39) Yeah. They Speaker 3 (12:39) were escorting him and transporting him, I don't know, I guess to court or from court, I forget. And he comes out. And he just takes over. He commandeers basically the entire press conference. He just, I mean, it was unbelievable. Speaker 2 (13:01) Zac Speaker 3 (13:02) Efron played him in a movie on Netflix and did a pretty incredible job at doing it. Jim Parsons from Big Bang Theory played the prosecutor. And it was pretty incredible. But if you want to see, I always like the documentary better. When you can see the real footage, when they include the real footage. Because the documentary will remind you of how. you know, smug these people were, how arrogant they were, how evil they were in the things that they were finally convicted of doing. Remember Speaker 6 (13:37) the death row interview when he talked to the, oh, the, uh, Speaker 6 (13:44) I forgot which evangelist it was. I just can't. I got mind blank here. And we told him that, you know, he did it because of pornography. Speaker 3 (13:53) Yeah, yeah. Speaker 6 (13:54) Shut up. Yeah. Yeah, no. I'll Speaker 1 (13:57) never Speaker 6 (13:57) forget with that. When that was like, blame everything but me. But you think about it. I mean, Speaker 3 (14:05) that Speaker 6 (14:06) was unbelievable. And he was, again, representing himself in court. Oh, my gosh. And confronting the witnesses. That was some of the most bizarre. With Speaker 2 (14:17) an incredible confidence that he was going to win. And it's like, you're not going to win. Right. One wonders if that would have happened with what we have with DNA technology today. Speaker 3 (14:33) Yeah. Whether Speaker 2 (14:34) he would have done that or just pleaded guilty. Right. Yeah. Speaker 3 (14:36) Because Speaker 2 (14:37) that's the point now with DNA. You can't beat it. Speaker 3 (14:41) Well, you know, with Brian Koberger, they found it through 23andMe or one of the ancestry sites. Speaker 6 (14:49) Yeah. Speaker 3 (14:49) And it was a relative that basically, and it wasn't his DNA they found at his father's house. When he had gone back to his father's house, his father drove and they drove back to his father's house and he was there. It's actually. his father's DNA that they got out of the trash there at that house. But that matched and showed it to be the paternal DNA of a paternal line of the DNA that was found at the scene, which could only be Brian Kovar. And that was it. That was the death knell. And that's considered now. Speaker 6 (15:28) And it wasn't even probably 10 years ago, but it's considered legit science now. Speaker 3 (15:32) Oh, yeah. No, the DNA, if you think about how many people they have in a lab right now that are part of the investigation, there are specialists that work in DNA that work through companies like 23andMe and everything else. So if they find it, it could be a cousin. It could be, in this case, a father. It could be, you know. a number of people that aren't you if you're the killer that leads to finding the information they need to connect the killer to the crime. And I think it's certainly great technology and has changed everything when it comes to investigations. We are Red Eye Radio. Brought to you by Hotshot Secrets. Speaker 5 (16:17) Hi, I'm Jen Loomis, a transport safety expert at J.J. Keller. At a roadside inspection, inspectors may ask to see supporting documents. 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Yeah, it was evangelist Speaker 6 (17:35) author and psychologist James Dobson who did the interview with Ted Bundy. Yeah. You know, before he... Speaker 6 (17:45) Before he was, on the day he was executed, by the way. Same day, the death row interview. And, you know, Dobson also was playing basketball with Pete Maravich, Pistol Pete, when he died. They were playing together, I think, at a church gym or something. So, yeah, you saw Jim Baker died. Speaker 3 (18:07) Yeah, yeah. Speaker 6 (18:08) Evangelist Jim Baker, 86. Speaker 3 (18:10) Right. Speaker 6 (18:11) You know, Speaker 2 (18:12) you... Speaker 2 (18:15) He probably had the evangelist comeback of the century. Speaker 2 (18:22) You could still see him on. Was it recently or was it, are they still playing the repeats of the other guy? Who's Speaker 6 (18:31) the Speaker 2 (18:31) other guy? I can't think of the other guy's Speaker 6 (18:32) name. Oh, Speaker 2 (18:33) I Speaker 6 (18:33) got mine blank here. Speaker 2 (18:36) But he came back. I mean, he used to promote basically prosperity theology, he called it. Right. And then he became really into the Speaker 6 (18:47) whole survivalist. and the end of days in the world. So he sold survivalist products. Yeah. I mean, it's just like this guy just reinvented Speaker 2 (18:57) himself over and over again. Speaker 6 (18:59) And Speaker 2 (19:00) a lot of people may be too young, but when him and Tammy Faye were together, Speaker