09-09-26 Part One - Lindsay Clancy, Charlie Kirk and 9/11

Red Eye Radio

Red Eye Radio features a discussion on controversial topics including the one-year anniversary of Charlie Kirk's assassination, social media

Key takeaways

• Social media is amplifying extreme and offensive behaviors, particularly among some on the political left celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination anniversary.
• Jurors in the Lindsay Clancy trial revealed internal conflict, with 11 favoring a 'not guilty by reason of insanity' verdict despite one holdout juror refusing to acquit based on her actions.

Main topics

• Charlie Kirk assassination anniversary and 'Kirk-a-versary' celebrations
• Lindsay Clancy trial verdict and juror dissent

Notable quotes

"They're calling it a Kirkiversary and they're doing dances online. And part of that dance is taking a gun and pointing it right at their neck, as in, you know, talking about where Charlie Kirk was shot."

Conclusion

The episode underscores growing societal polarization, with disturbing online behavior,

Transcript preview

Speaker 5 (0:06) Now, it's Red Eye Radio, with talk about everything from politics to social issues and news of the day. Whether you're up late or you're just starting your day, welcome to the show. From the Relief Factor Studios, for Gary McNamara and Eric Harley, here is Dan Mandis. Speaker 3 (0:25) Phone number remains the same, 866-90-RED-EYE. You can follow me on the socials at DanMandisShow. I host a morning show. in Nashville, Tennessee on Supertalk 99.7 WTN. And again, you can follow me at DanMandaShow. If you can't call in, you can text in 615-737-9986. There is a lot going on. Let me just tell you where we're going tonight. Carmelo Anthony is in the news again. His family, I got to tell you, I didn't actually... really understand what the term grifter meant until I understood what the family of Carmelo Anthony is doing. So wait till you hear this story. I've got that for you coming up. Of course, all the latest on Iran. We have the latest on the Lindsay Clancy trial. Now we have some of these jurors speaking out. So we'll talk about that as well. Some of the trends that are going on on social media, of course, horrifying regarding that trial. Also, of course, the it's been about one year now here in a couple of tomorrow, I think. Yes. So about one year since the assassination of Charlie Kirk. So now we do have people on the left on social media celebrating the one year. They're calling it a Kirkiversary and they're doing dances online. And part of that dance is, of course, taking a gun and pointing it right at their neck, as in, you know, talking about where Charlie Kirk was shot. I got to tell you, and maybe this is part of the theme for tonight here on Red Eye Radio, but have Speaker 1 (2:04) people always been this vile? Speaker 1 (2:08) Or is this just a new thing on social media? Because you have these these folks. Let Speaker 3 (2:14) me let me just go through a couple of things that have me thinking about how bad all of this is. So, number one, yes, the Kirkiversary, where you have these people on the left and they're celebrating one year since the assassination, the horrible assassination that everyone saw on TV and on social media. his horrifying murder. And so the celebration after the fact and now one year after the fact where they're doing their little dances and pointing their finger guns at their neck where Charlie Kirk was shot, horrifying, absolutely horrifying. So you have that going on on social media. You also have going on on social media talking about the Lindsay Clancy trial. Just just really quickly. Speaker 1 (3:03) where you now have mothers holding their babies. Speaker 1 (3:09) And they're saying, me too, Speaker 3 (3:12) Lindsay, me too, as they're holding their babies. And some of these folks are making it seem like they are resenting their babies. And I played you audio. I'm not going to do it again. But last night I played you the audio of that one woman who was Speaker 1 (3:29) complaining about her baby and telling people not to have babies. And she was talking about how. filled with absolute rage she was over the fact that she was a mother. And so it sort of leads me to this whole, I don't know, thought process as to whether or not people have always been this vile or has social media turned us into as a society just incredibly vile. Speaker 1 (4:03) If we've always been this vile, then social media has just given us an avenue to expose Speaker 3 (4:07) ourselves. And I'm not talking about me. I'm not talking about most of you. But, you know, some of these folks that are lamenting on social media about how Speaker 1 (4:17) much they hate being mothers and about how they are supporting Lindsay Clancy, a woman who killed her three children. Speaker 1 (4:29) And unfortunately, you know, the more that you talk about this, the more that we see these things online, the more horrifying society becomes. Speaker 1 (4:40) And so go ahead and check out my social media. You can see exactly what I'm talking about. I do want to get into, though, what these jurors Speaker 3 (4:47) are saying. So the jurors have now come out. As you know, there has been a mistrial in the Lindsay Clancy trial. The mistrial basically now saying that 11 of the jurors wanted to say not guilty, wanted to deem her not guilty by reason Speaker 1 (5:05) of insanity. One lone juror. Would not do that. So the 11 other jurors, at least three of them now, are speaking out. They're speaking out against the one juror that stood his ground. Here's part of what they're saying and against this this one guy who basically he did his job and his job was to, you know, beyond his as he's listening to Speaker 3 (5:32) all the evidence, he's got to decide whether or not she is essentially guilty or innocent or innocent by reason of insanity and so forth. This is what the jurors are saying about this one juror. Speaker 8 (5:42) He would not interact with us and and. Try to understand we read to him on numerous occasions the definition of a reasonable doubt from judge Sullivan's Instruction he actually said one day in the end But why don't we have the judge come in and read it again, and we were like no we have it in front of us We don't need that. And we would highlight it. And, you know, so and so. This is the definition of reason of death. But he had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay Speaker 1 (6:19) viciously killed her children. It's that last part. It is that last part. But he had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously Speaker 8 (6:30) killed her children. So. Speaker 1 (6:32) She's talking about how this one juror who has not come forward, by the way, but she's criticizing him for not being able to get over the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her own children. Speaker 1 (6:50) Now, I'm sorry, but to me, it is Speaker 3 (6:52) a good thing that he was not able to get over the fact that she viciously killed her own children. He Speaker 8 (6:58) had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her Speaker 1 (7:02) children. I mean, what a bizarre thing to say. Speaker 3 (7:07) I do like, though, how the media is giving these jurors the free reign to go out and just blast this guy as being uncooperative and dumb, because that's basically what Speaker 1 (7:17) they're doing. That's how they're making this one loan juror out to be. He Speaker 8 (7:23) admitted he had reasonable doubt and I started filling out the forms. I was so excited. I actually there were three forms I had to fill out and I started filling them out. I wrote my signature on each one. And then he said, but I'm still not going to say that she's not guilty by reason of insanity. Speaker 1 (7:43) So basically what they're saying is that the holdout juror. did Speaker 3 (7:47) have reasonable doubt about Clancy being guilty, but refused to take that next step and vote not guilty by reason of insanity. So that's what the attorney for Clancy has been saying. That's what these other jurors are saying as well. And this again, this juror hasn't come out and spoken for himself. These other jurors are now saying that they believed Speaker 1 (8:10) that she had this. This was part of the trial that she had this command. hallucination where she heard a male voice telling Speaker 3 (8:19) her to kill the kids and herself. If you followed the trial, you know that was part Speaker 1 (8:25) of the pool of evidence. The jurors also said that the abundance of medication was also important to them. She kept going to various doctors until she got the prescriptions that she wanted. Some people are saying, well, she was doctor shopping. That's ultimately, they say, what she was doing. Essentially what the prosecution said that Lindsay Clancy was doing. They also say that she was misdiagnosed and overmedicated. She had all of these drugs and she would switch up the drugs. So I think part of what Speaker 3 (8:57) is going on here is these jurors, these ones that wanted to deem her, you know, essentially not guilty by reason of insanity. One of the things that they're saying is that, Speaker 1 (9:07) well, she just wasn't responsible for her actions. because she had all of these drugs and she was overprescribed. She was misdiagnosed and all of these other things. And I believe that that is why that lone juror maybe perhaps had some doubts. He Speaker 8 (9:24) was very arrogant. He really did not take. Anything that anybody said, the nurses, he tried to ask a question about the medications, and we went back to the report from South Shore Hospital. We had the toxicology report. We could see exactly the amounts. The nurses in the room spoke to that, that specific thing. That was a question that he had, and he just completely disregarded the information that they gave him. Speaker 1 (9:54) So I think the reason why that juror had doubts is because she was overmedicated because she was essentially doctor shopping and she was consciously accumulating all of these drugs, had medication changes, essentially making this her responsibility. because she was not helpless in all of this. The prosecution argued that she was deliberately changing medications over and over again. So she wasn't, as the defense would claim, that she was sort of an innocent victim in all of this. No, she herself was going to all of these doctors. She was consciously making the effort to go to all of these different doctors. And these doctors are talking to her. And I Speaker 3 (10:42) don't know how much she told the other doctors because she's going to several different doctors. I don't know what she was telling the doctors about the other doctors and who was saying what. Her attorney, though, was on Good Morning America. I thought that what he said was actually pretty interesting. Number one, he's asking Donald Trump to give Lindsey Clancy a pardon. He can't. These are state charges, not federal charges. But listen to this. Speaker 4 (11:08) And what do you Speaker 3 (11:09) say to those critics who say this is a rationalization? What we're talking about here is just plain evil. Speaker 4 (11:15) Oh, please, it's not evil. These people don't understand. They don't know what she went through. They didn't see her text messages. They didn't see her journal. They didn't see the notes that she wrote. They didn't see the text she sent her mother in October saying, Mommy, can you please come to here? I am sick. Something's wrong. And it was a result of the medications. They don't know about the number of times that she reached out. She went to the women and infants. She went to the suicide hotlines. She reached out to everybody and anybody that would listen to her and kept saying, I am not good. I am not well. And it was ignored. So just I Speaker 3 (11:47) should have just stopped it at what she did was not evil, which is what her attorney, Kevin Reddington, just said. You Speaker 1 (11:55) just heard it. But it does seem to me that she did know what she was doing. This didn't seem like one psychotic episode. There was planning involved. She sends the husband out of the house to go get food and go to the store. Speaker 1 (12:16) She set the whole thing up, created that time and that scenario where she could do what she did. And by the way, she also hid what she was doing. So this was not, at least to me, this was not the sign of someone who just snapped. No. Speaker 1 (12:36) She plotted. She deceived. She knew what she was going to do. She had intent. She thought it out. She came up with a plan and she did what she did. Speaker 4 (12:47) What's next for Lindsay? I'd like to say that perhaps Donald Trump, who felt compelled to speak out about this case, may very well, Mr. President, I would hope that you would consider this young lady, the type of person she is, what she's been through, and consider a pardon. Speaker 3 (13:05) So more than a few people have pointed out that she's being brought up or has been brought up on state charges, not federal charges. So apparently Donald Trump cannot actually help her. He told a media outlet that he knows that the attorney Reddington, Kevin Reddington, told a local media outlet there in Massachusetts. He knows that Donald Trump can't actually help Speaker 1 (13:27) her, but he can still help, according to this guy. Here's the quote. He says the goal is pretty simple. It's to seek help from Donald Trump. Reddington said, I mean, if President Trump feels that is a case that warrants that type of intervention from, you know, the executive branch, even though legally it's not a federal case, he certainly has an awful lot of clout. He says, I'm sure that were he Speaker 3 (13:54) hypothetically to reach out to Tim Cruz, who is the local D.A. He says, you know, they're both Republicans. And I don't know, maybe that will be something that Tim would listen Speaker 1 (14:04) to and consider. Kevin Reddington said, he says, I think that any type of help that we can get Speaker 3 (14:11) would be helpful. So I don't see, you know, Donald Trump was very critical. I don't have the quote in front of me, but Donald Trump. was actually very critical of Lindsay Clancy and the whole thing. So I don't necessarily see Donald Trump going out of her way to try to reach out to Tim Cruz, the local D.A. and help her. But you never know these days. Anything's possible. But there's so many aspects of this story that are horrifying. And I know that I have only scratched the surface of this story. We'll have to see ultimately if there is another trial. But the jurors, again, now speaking out and throwing that lone juror that stood up to the 11 other jurors right under the bus. And I know that this story. is not going to go away anytime soon. The phone number, 615 and 615, I should say the text line, 615-737-9986. The phone line is 866-90-RED-EYE, 866-907-3339. Speaker 1 (15:10) Got a lot more straight ahead on Red Eye Radio. Brought to you by Hot Shot Secret. 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Speaker 5 (16:04) Lines open for your calls. 866-90-REDI on REDI Radio. Speaker 1 (16:26) Red Eye Radio, the phone number is 866-90-RED-EYE, Speaker 3 (16:29) 866-907-3339. Always appreciate the opportunity to fill in here on Red Eye Radio. So I do have my text line open up from my morning show here in Nashville. You can call in, you can text in, 615-737-9986. A lot of people are texting in on that opening Speaker 1 (16:50) monologue. 13.03 says here in the state of Tennessee, if President Trump knows what is politically good for him, he will stay a million miles away from inserting the administration Speaker 3 (17:02) into that case of Lindsey Clancy. I agree. And I don't see President Trump actually inserting himself into this, certainly not to try to, you know, give her some sort of a pardon or help her in any way. A lot of people texting in and saying this was clearly. A case where the where it was premeditated murder. See, that that's where I'm at. That is where I'm at. I think that this was was a case where there was a lot of people that fell down on this on this case, if you will. I mean, obviously, I think that Lindsay Clancy, she she deserves to spend the rest of her life in prison. But the other question I would have is, OK,