08-28-26 Part One - Russia Turns Up the Heat

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Red Eye Radio discusses escalating tensions between Russia and the UK over Ukraine's use of British cruise missiles, President Trump's contr

Key takeaways

• Russia threatens retaliation against British military targets if Ukraine uses long-range missiles inside Russian territory.
• The use of Storm Shadow missiles in Donetsk has caused civilian casualties, including children, intensifying international concern.

Main topics

• Russia-Ukraine conflict escalation
• U.S.-UK military cooperation in Ukraine

Notable quotes

Putin warns Great Britain: 'If Ukraine uses long-range British cruise missiles inside Russia, we will strike your military targets.'

Conclusion

The episode underscores growing geopolitical tensions, domestic politi

Transcript preview

Speaker 8 (0:06) Now, it's Red Eye Radio. Gary McNamara and Eric Hurley talk about everything from politics to social issues and news of the day. Whether you're up late or you're just starting your day, welcome to the show. From the Relief Factor Studios, this is Red Eye Radio. Speaker 5 (0:25) All across America, we are Red Eye Radio. He is Eric Hurley and I'm Gary McNamara. Hi! Alright, I think I can do it. What can you do? I was at the dentist yesterday, and they told me my back molar Speaker 1 (0:37) is going to be sore Speaker 5 (0:39) for 24 to 36 hours. And, man, I'm telling you, after the lidocaine wore off yesterday afternoon, I Speaker 2 (0:45) was Speaker 5 (0:45) like, oh, no, I got to go to sleep. What am I going to do? And I took a couple of ibuprofen, and boom, I was able to go to sleep. But I slept two hours, woke up at 7, could not get back to sleep. It was like a toothache the whole time laying in bed. And so I'm like, oh, man, oh, man. And I'm thinking to myself. Will you ever have a toothache where it affects Speaker 2 (1:04) your thoughts? Not in a long time, but yeah, I've had one. I've had one that, and inevitably back in the day when I was going through that, it was, I didn't have a dentist set yet. We had just moved here, this was like 30 years ago. And I've had the same dentist since then, but I had to find, it was on a weekend. It was on a Sunday. And I had to find an emergency dentist that was open. And it was like way over in east of Dallas. Like, I think it was in Rockwall, which is from my house is probably 40 minutes. And it seemed like eternity. The pain was all the way. I mean, basically to my toes. I felt this. Speaker 5 (1:51) Oh, yeah. Speaker 2 (1:52) Well, I mean, my Speaker 5 (1:52) horrible mine isn't any type of infection. It's simply. I had a Speaker 1 (1:57) temporary on one of the back molars that went. Now, years ago, I had teeth Speaker 5 (2:05) capped. We're talking 25 years ago. Not for any cosmetic reasons, but because I had a horrible sensitivity. Speaker 3 (2:14) As Speaker 5 (2:15) you Speaker 3 (2:15) can Speaker 5 (2:15) see, I don't have chiclets. Speaker 2 (2:16) There's Speaker 3 (2:17) no Speaker 5 (2:17) chiclets. But because of my horrible sensitivity to hot and cold, I could not even drink coffee. I couldn't eat ice cream. Right. And so when I had the cap break after 24 years, the crown, they put on a temporary, which is not the same thing as the permanent one, as you know, not as thick or anything else. Oh, my gosh. Oh, last week. Because it took about 10 days, almost two weeks, you know, to get the new crown in every single day. I mean, drink something cold. Ow! And it brought back the memories from that time. Yesterday, I just said, well, make sure you give me lidocaine there when you put the new crown on, which is real easy. I mean, I think the technology for doing these things is fantastic because they only spent like one second grinding, you know, on the actual new crown. Just like a second ago. Okay, put it in. Fit perfect. Speaker 2 (3:15) It's Speaker 5 (3:15) like, all right, great. But they were messing around, you know, and cleaning stuff and everything else, and that just sets off. those nerves. So it's going to go away. And it's, like I said, it's not going to be a problem. But I'm telling you, when I woke up, I'm like, I hope Eric comes in because I can't keep a thought. When you have that pain and you can't keep a consistent thought in your head. And right before we went on the air, even before I took more, you know, heavy drugs. Okay. Not really heavy drugs. Extended release Tylenol. For arthritis. Zero pain at all. So I'm all set to go. But I was worried there for a while. I'm driving in going, oh, Eric, don't call in late. Don't call in. Please be there. Please be there. Yeah. But I was Speaker 2 (3:57) thinking about it because I was watching a really cool YouTube video that was about an hour and a half long. I was thinking. Speaker 2 (4:03) I may take the night off. This is a good one. Speaker 5 (4:06) Well, first off, just very quickly, because we had asked the other day about this, and when I was going in Fox News, the lead story is, you know, Putin warns Great Britain that, you know, Ukraine better not shoot any of their ballistic missiles inside Russia or we'll come after you. And this all goes back to the fact of now we know why Ratcliffe went over there. Speaker 2 (4:27) Well, it's funny because there were two stories as to why Radcliffe went over there, and I think it's probably a mix of all the above. Politico had one, and that was quit helping Iran, and then Wall Street Journal had another one, and that was don't go after NATO. Speaker 1 (4:42) Yeah. Speaker 2 (4:43) And so I think it was probably both. Which, by the way, both are great messages. No, I think if you're going to make a secret trip. Speaker 2 (4:54) you know, then you get it all in. You know, you're going to have to make it clear. Don't help Iran. Because that's not going to help you. And definitely, whatever you do, don't go after NATO. Speaker 3 (5:06) Well, it seemed like, did you get the, and I Speaker 5 (5:10) can't remember whether it was the Wall Street Journal article that I wrote or somebody that referenced the Wall Street Journal article, but to me it was almost Speaker 3 (5:17) as if you send Ratcliffe over there because he's basically told them, and again, I may be adding to this, that he basically told them, we know what you have. No, that's the reason you Speaker 2 (5:29) send him over. Yeah, you Speaker 3 (5:30) can't win this. You need to come to a deal with Ukraine. Yeah. Because you're not going to be able to win this. You haven't won it. You're not going to win it. You know, bail now. And the other interesting thing is, it actually came, I'm like, oh, John Bolton isn't in jail yet? Because I saw him, I'm like, he's out there doing the tours on it. And he said, there's no way you send Speaker 5 (5:50) a C-17 over there if you want to keep it secret. They never wanted to keep it secret. Because you'd have a small executive jet. That would have taken Ratcliffe over there. He said, so you don't send that over. They did that because they wanted it to come out. And it has. But either of those messages, both of those messages, I think, are great. And for everything that we dealt with early on. You know, with the president and J.D. Vance and Zelensky and all that going back, what, a couple of years ago to where we are now, I was very happy to hear because they're different messages. Political had one, but they probably did both. Neither contradicts each other. Both are the right thing to do. Speaker 2 (6:32) Yeah, look, when Mike Pompeo went over on a secret mission to North Korea, Speaker 2 (6:41) I can't remember if he had just become Secretary of State or was still CIA director at the time. I think he was still CIA director. But he made this, and he sat down with Kim Jong-un on Easter Sunday. And the only reason you go there, the only reason a CIA director or a secretary of state would make a secret trip like that would be to show you, you know, basically, here are all your passwords. We know how to get into your system. Here's what we know you have. Yeah. Here's a picture of your feet Speaker 5 (7:17) while you're in the shower. But we have double authentication. No, no, no, no. Speaker 1 (7:21) We're the CIA. We got that covered. Don't worry. Yeah, yeah. Speaker 2 (7:25) They created all of that to make you people feel like you're safe. But this is, trust me, I know what I'm talking about. But this whole thing is that, you know, and I trust John Ratcliffe. I had a great conversation with him. about how the first impeachment for Trump went down and what that was all about, who had populated that call with Zelensky from the incoming president of Ukraine and Trump calling him and saying, hey, we expect you to follow through with your campaign promises and everything else. Speaker 2 (8:10) uh you know then they went to uh uh what's his name's uh office uh from uh from california he was a congressman at the time now he's a senator and uh they you know we i trust that Because the CIA reports directly to the president. It's a straight line, CIA director directly to the president. And I trust two people in this administration at their games, in their positions right now fully. Secretary of State Marco Rubio and CIA Director Radcliffe. The other ones, it's not that I don't trust them, but I mean... I don't really have any reason to not trust either one of those two. Speaker 1 (8:54) No, I think I don't want to Speaker 5 (8:57) tell you what you're thinking here. I think what you're thinking. No, but what I got out of it is they have proved to me with the statements that Speaker 2 (9:05) they have made Speaker 5 (9:06) that Speaker 2 (9:07) they have credibility. And when I asked him, I was doing an interview, I was hosting along with the great Hal Jay on WBAP. Speaker 2 (9:17) about what was what was going on with that first impeachment and he answered the he answered the questions with the right words you know what i mean we don't you don't always get that Speaker 2 (9:31) And that's, you know, so I as an individual, I think he understands his roles in public service. I do believe that is the case, too, with Hegseth. I believe, you know, Trump has probably those three. I won't say on a short leash, but certainly they're tighter to him. You know, they're closer to him. in many ways, than J.D. Vance, the vice president. And that can often be the case, depending on what's going on geopolitically. But if you're going to sit down with Putin's people, because we're told, you know, Russia says, no, there was no direct meeting with Putin himself, there doesn't have to be. Because Trump himself didn't travel to Russia on a secret trip. It was his CIA director. Speaker 2 (10:23) It likely with a CIA director, the whole point is to lay down. Here's what we have. Here's what we know. And here's what we won't accept. And one of the things that really stands out to me, and it really is right now very active in the back of my mind since Israel had said. that they were hanging out in Azerbaijan, basically undercover in Azerbaijan, which is the country between Russia and Iran. And unless you're going to move things by the Caspian Sea, if we're talking equipment, then you're going to go through Azerbaijan, starting with the Shadag Mountains, which is a massive mountainous range in the north part of Azerbaijan, and then through, and it would be... pretty obvious. So the Israelis said they had hung out there for a while. I don't know if they're still there, but they were looking to see if Russia was moving things through Azerbaijan to get to, because Azerbaijan does have a fairly friendly relationship with Iran. So that would kind of work, just like China using the rail, basically to go through, you know, wherever, Afghanistan or wherever, to get stuff shipped to, to... And I think that is, I really think that's the reason that he went there. I think we're looking at a situation. You know what's weird is that you haven't heard much about the war between Russia and Ukraine other than the normal chatter of the daily goings on. That, you know, like recently they're using these upgraded drones. to attack Ukraine, Ukraine saying, hey, we need help on this, that kind of thing, you know, the normal everyday thing. But there hasn't been any real movement, nothing that really stands out in that way. And I think in part, my theory is that Iran has also been helping and probably teaming with China because they, Russia, relies on China quite a bit for support. And that's a tricky game. And so they're helping. I think both of them are helping Iran. I don't have any doubt, certainly when it comes to intel, certainly when it comes to satellite gathered intel, because there were a couple of attacks on American interest in that region by Iran that Iran just simply does not have the technology for. So it had to have been borrowed technology or intel that came from another nation that has developed. that kind of technology. And the two that stand out are Russia and China. So I see Ratcliffe, that trip, as hopefully it was... Speaker 2 (13:17) effective, you know, you can't trust Russia, but you've got to do, you certainly have to, you've got to make your case. And the strongest way to do that is to send the head of your CIA and likely just bring out the folder and say, here's what we got. Here's all your passwords. Here's a picture of your feet in the shower. Here's what, you know, we know exactly everything you're going on. We know what you had for breakfast. You know, all of these things. And that's and stop it. Now, the question is, how seriously does Russia take any, you know, warning? You know, because that was the word used in these stories. I don't know if there was there was any kind of line in the sand that was drawn. Let me Speaker 1 (14:06) ask you this question. Do you send over the CIA director and not the secretary of state? because the CIA director can communicate with whomever that Putin's position is not secure. This war has gone on. We're the CIA. We're paying attention. We know what's going on inside your country. You can't afford to attack NATO, and you're not going to win this thing now. You're not going to win it. Let's come. Let's find a way. for you to get out of this and Ukraine to get out of this and get peace because you're not going to win and you may lose not only your Speaker 3 (14:52) position, but you could lose your life. Again, that's a hypothetical, but why do you send over the CIA director except to tell them we know what's going on? We're Speaker 2 (15:03) not Speaker 3 (15:03) going to give you specifics, but... Right, it's not Speaker 2 (15:05) a handshake visit. It's not a negotiated... visit or anything to get anybody to the table, which would, you know, that would pull in your your secretary of state. And also. The CIA director, you know, in secret covert missions like that, it's a it's a meeting, but it's it's a covert mission. There are things he doesn't have to talk about, whereas the secretary of state also doesn't have to talk about. But but but. Speaker 2 (15:36) is the handshaker, negotiator, and everything else. They're very two different roles, but I think you make a good point in the theory, if that's the case. Speaker 5 (15:46) It's a complete theory. But otherwise, why would you, if you were going to meet with Putin, who's ex-KGB, that would really be interesting to have the CIA director talking to the ex-KGB guy. That, to me, would be fascinating. But I always thought to begin with, why are you sending him? Speaker 2 (16:04) Well, Speaker 5 (16:04) why isn't it, you know, I'll say it. Why isn't it Kushner or Vance or whatever? Why are you sending the CIA director? Speaker 3 (16:12) You're sending the CIA director because the CIA director can have credibility with the Putin administration to say, this is the problem that you're facing in your own country. You don't need to give specifics, but you can say you are facing problems that you cannot win. Forget about Speaker 5 (16:32) winning the war. or attacking NATO countries, you've got to worry about your own survival in your own country. To me, that would be, again, it's a hypothetical on my part, but why else would you send over what kind of message could the CIA director give with more clout than anybody else in the administration? Well, Speaker 2 (16:52) no, I think that's it. And, again, it's not a negotiation position. It's a, hey, here's all your passwords. Here's your routes of your secret, and they do have secret freighters. that are running oil. You know, one of the things about capturing Maduro was that it choked out a lot of the oil coming from Venezuela to Russia and vice versa. I mean, they did exchange oil. Those two nations did. But it really choked out Russia for a matter of weeks. It may still be affecting them. And that really could be the case. It's like, okay, we've got everything on you. We know what you're doing. And we'll choke you out. and carve you out as the pariah. So, stop, basically, is the message. We are Red Eye Radio. Brought to you by Hotshot Secrets. Speaker 6 (17:38) Hi, I'm Jen Loomis, a transport safety expert at J.J. Keller. In order to manage speed, you need to understand the four factors involved in stopping a vehicle. Perception distance is the distance a vehicle travels from the time you see a hazard until your brain recognizes it. The perception time for an alert driver is approximately three-fourths of a second. Reaction distance is the distance a vehicle travels