VICKI’S 90-DAY FIANCÉ?! | RHOC Recap with Alexis Janssen

Reality with The King

Carlos King and Alexis Janssen dive into a pivotal episode of The Real Housewives of Orange County Season 20, dissecting major drama includi

Key takeaways

• Vicki's sudden engagement ring reveal sparks confusion and speculation among the cast and viewers alike.

Main topics

• Vicki's mysterious engagement ring
• Tamra's evolving role in the drama

Notable quotes

"We're getting somewhere. We're getting somewhere." – Alexis Janssen on Tamra's activation

Conclusion

The episode marks a turning point in RHOC Season 20 with rising tensions and

Transcript preview

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Speaker 7 (2:32) Listen to Dirty Rush on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow Dirty Rush and start listening on the free iHeartRadio app today. Speaker 2 (2:44) Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey, and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests. whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well. Speaker 2 (3:17) Hey, Raindrops. The Monday Night Live crew is headed to New York City. We have a live show on Sunday, September 20th at the City Winery in New York City. That's right. Come see me, Carlos King, Blue Centric Claudia Jordan, and Dustin Ross live on stage in New York City. Sunday, September 20th, City Winery. Get your tickets at KingdomRainint.com. Speaker 2 (3:47) Hey, Raindrops. On today's episode of Reality with the King, Alexis Jansen and Speaker 8 (3:52) I, listen, Fridays is so fun because Alexis and I get to not only recap season 20 of Speaker 2 (4:00) the Real Housewives of Orange County, we get to like see each other gossip and talk about all the work we've got done to our face. Speaker 3 (4:07) We first came on, guys, and we weren't recording yet, but I said. Speaker 4 (4:12) Okay, why are you glowing? Did you get a facial? But now I think from his smirky little look, I think he just had a little fun last night that went into the wee hours of the morning. Speaker 8 (4:22) No, I think that's happening this weekend. Speaker 3 (4:26) Precursor, you've got the precursor glow because you know it's coming soon. Okay, okay. I think that's happening this Speaker 8 (4:32) weekend. If I'm being honest with you, Alexis, no. Speaker 8 (4:36) The funny thing is, ask any man, ask John this, and ask Spencer. For men, our facelift is getting a haircut. Speaker 3 (4:47) I totally thought you just shaved your hair, your baldness completely beautifully done to the, like, look at that. There is not one follicle anywhere on there. Speaker 8 (4:58) That's all it is. I got a haircut. I got, Alexis, I got, Alexis, I got a haircut 10 minutes before we were recording. Speaker 3 (5:07) And you made it on time? Wow. Well, Speaker 8 (5:10) it ended, let me, let me rephrase that. It ended 10 minutes ago. Speaker 4 (5:15) Oh my God. Did you have them come to your hotel? By the way, where are you? Speaker 8 (5:18) I'm at a hotel. I'm being honored. Yes. I'm in Atlanta. I'm being honored. It's gay pride weekend in Atlanta. And there's a gala happening tonight where I'm getting an award. Speaker 3 (5:31) Okay. And what is this award for? Speaker 8 (5:33) It is actually, it's for like outstanding achievement in arts and entertainment. So shout out to. Atlanta Gay Black Pride. So yeah. Round Speaker 3 (5:44) of applause. Round of applause. Okay. That's my friend, guys. That's my friend. Okay. Speaker 2 (5:50) Yes. Yes. So I'm in Atlanta right now. So girl, I had to call the barber and say, I'm doing me right. Speaker 3 (5:58) I Speaker 2 (5:58) have a busy day. Make sure I look the fuck good before I hit record as me and Alexis get into this episode of Horse County. Speaker 2 (6:09) But Alexis, you always look great. The hair is giving me a little Farrah Fawcett tease too. So raindrops, you got to join YouTube. Subscribe to YouTube so you Speaker 3 (6:18) can Speaker 2 (6:18) see all the beautifulness that is Alexis Speaker 8 (6:20) Jansen. Speaker 3 (6:23) Yeah, I just actually did my hair. Last week you got dirty hair thrown in a bun with glasses on. I was just totally like, you know, but today I've got a packed day too. So it was like, okay, I've got to be up at six ready to go for the whole day. So yeah. Speaker 2 (6:36) Oh, you're a busy lady today. Okay, okay, okay. Speaker 3 (6:41) Yeah. Look Speaker 2 (6:42) at you. Speaker 8 (6:42) I know, I know. Listen, the good thing is this. I am actually pretty stoked to talk about this episode. I Speaker 4 (6:49) could tell you had, not only did you have the barber or, you know, fornication glow Speaker 3 (6:54) going on, you have the, you have a glow of, I am really excited about this episode. Listen, I Speaker 8 (7:02) was into this episode. I thought a lot of things happened in this episode that I was like, okay, I. Look, it's been a long journey, but Alexis was right. She said, Carlos, just wait until the mid-season trailer shows up. And you predicted that things would be happening the way you and I like it. So look, I feel like we're heading in the right direction. It's not as explosive as past seasons, but I like the direction in which it's going. So looking forward to Speaker 4 (7:35) it. Let me ask you this. What do you think? What do you think happened this episode that was different that made it more, a little bit better to watch? Speaker 2 (7:44) Oh, you mean activate a Tamar judge? Speaker 3 (7:48) Honey, that's like semi-activated. She got, she's like on the scale of a one to 10. She was like, now she was a bit at a two. She was now at least a five. I mean, we're getting somewhere. Speaker 8 (7:57) We're getting somewhere. We're getting somewhere. Speaker 3 (7:59) Come on. Come on, Tammy Sue. Speaker 8 (8:02) Save the day. Save the day. Save the day. You know who isn't saving the day, honey? Speaker 2 (8:09) Emily has a hard-on for the takedown of Heather Dubrow. And look. Speaker 3 (8:18) Well, so do you. Why don't you call Emily? We're on a team together. You guys are on this island about it together. And hey, who knows? After a certain couple episodes, maybe I'm going to jump on your island. I don't know. Speaker 3 (8:31) Listen, in Speaker 8 (8:32) all fairness. Speaker 3 (8:33) We shall Speaker 8 (8:33) see. Girl, we shall see. But look, in all fairness, you may be very surprised by my take on this episode as it relates to it because look, I'll say this much. I'll say this much. I did enjoy... Seeing that Heather is being called out, so let's get right into it. Heather is with Carmela. And honey, they are establishing a very interesting friendship. And the friendship is, you know, Heather wants Carmela to be Speaker 2 (9:12) her real estate agent. to find her daughter a home in San Diego. And she did not call Josh Altman, who is her and Terry's favorite realtor of all time. And she did not even call Gina, who is also a realtor, but she is using Carmela Speaker 8 (9:33) as the realtor. Now, look, there's two sets of thoughts here to me. Is Speaker 2 (9:40) Heather playing chess in the reality game of Housewives, or is she really fond of Carmela? My thought is she's playing chess. She needs somebody on her side the way she had Gina on her side years back when they went to New York City and shared a pizza on the streets of Times Square. That's what Heather does to me. Speaker 8 (10:08) So Speaker 2 (10:08) the fact that Heather Speaker 8 (10:10) has called Carmela trashy and said she doesn't belong in this group, now you're using her Speaker 2 (10:19) to find your daughter a home in San Diego. Speaker 2 (10:24) I'm not buying it. Speaker 4 (10:27) I've gone back and forth on this one because, you know, it is true that Carmela lives down, you know, in that area. I know her mansion down there is close to that area. So she knows the traffic going in and out. I loved her advice on if your daughter gets this, you know, apartment, she might be stuck in 45 to an hour of traffic more than if she just got a different apartment. That's, you know, I loved all that advice. So part of me was like, eh, it makes kind of the sense that you would have her over Gina who's here. But at the other, you know, perspective of that is Gina has been on the show for how many years with Heather now known Heather, how many years now, and has been a real estate, a very successful real estate agent for how many years now. So why wouldn't you have just gone to Gina? I don't know. I'm, I'm kind of, I'm kind of agree in agreement with you about like, maybe she is playing chess. Maybe she felt so bad about calling her trashy that she's like, okay, let me throw her a bone since I. effed up and I don't know. I'm confused about this. I have to see more of these, like the interaction between those two. And the reunion, I think, is good because there's a lot more season left to go. We're not even half nine. There's 17. I did get confirmation. There's seven from an inside source. There is 17 before the reunion. Speaker 8 (11:35) Oh, that's a lot of episodes. OK, good. So Speaker 4 (11:37) it's going to be 19 to 22 part reunion or three. It's 17 or 18 to 19 to 20 episodes is what it's going to be. So that's what Beverly Hills was. So I don't know. There's a lot more meat on this bone for me to figure out what I feel. Speaker 8 (11:53) Well, I think the meat on this bone is what Heather is throwing Carmella. Speaker 2 (12:00) She's throwing her bone, right? I think she's throwing her bone to say, join me in this group because these other ladies aren't. Feeling you. This is what I'm thinking. I think Heather had no idea that these ladies were going to go against her when this season started. The season started. She felt like she was in a good place. She was shocked at her party in episode one that Jen told Tamara what she said about her, putting her in a box. Heather was clearly offended by that. She really was offended by Jen saying, Jen, I thought we were friends. Then at Tamara's party, Emily's on her back and she's like, yo, Emily, chill out. She was surprised that Emily, you know, had a heart on for her. And Speaker 8 (12:49) now that these women are calling her out, I think psychologically, listen, Heather's smart. Heather's only worry Speaker 2 (12:57) in life is whether or not Saks will open up in time for her to buy a viewer bag. You know, that's Speaker 8 (13:05) the only worry she has. Speaker 8 (13:07) So with that being said, Alexa. I don't think she Speaker 3 (13:10) carries Dior, to be honest. I think you're about two scales low on what she carries. Speaker 8 (13:15) Oh, let me tell you something. You know why I said Dior? Speaker 3 (13:19) Because of Carmela's gifts. Speaker 8 (13:21) No. Queen, oh. I happen to be on TikTok. Oh. And Heather was on TikTok in her closet. She Speaker 2 (13:32) opened up a Dior bag. And she sang the song, I'm Unrelatable. Speaker 2 (13:43) I'm not. Speaker 4 (13:45) Wait, wait, what am I missing? No, no, no. Tell me I'm having an airhead moment right here. I don't get it. Speaker 8 (13:49) No, no, no, no, you're not. No, you're not. No, you're not. No, you're not. Let me tell you something. I'm going to show this to you. So raindrops, that's why you have to go on. Speaker 4 (13:59) Like none of it's linking in my brain of how that's cute or, or like where I'm missing something. I need to see it. Speaker 2 (14:04) Oh, honey. What was, what's missing is humility. Let me tell you what. Happened. So Heather Dubrow, like I said, she obviously is on TikTok. And there was a video she posted carrying a Chanel bag. I'm going to play it for you. You ready for it? I'm Speaker 4 (14:27) ready. Speaker 7 (14:44) Unrelatable, but Speaker 4 (14:47) near, oh, sure. Speaker 4 (14:53) I don't get it. Why is she saying Unrelatable because she got a custom one? She ordered a custom one? No. Speaker 2 (15:00) Okay. This is when you're having a blonde moment, and I'm going to school you what Heather's doing. Speaker 4 (15:04) Thank you. Please do. Speaker 2 (15:07) Okay. Rest in peace, Natalie Cole. Okay. So, you know, Natalie Cole has a song called Unforgettable with her dad. Okay. Heather is saying Unrelatable. Heather is owning the fact that I am Unrelatable. as she is opening up a bag that is a new Dior bag. So she pretty much is owning the fact that I am unrelatable and I'm fine with that. So she's leaning into the fact that as a wealthy woman who lives in Beverly Hills but is on Orange County housewives, that she is able, that is a crocodile. Right. Oh, Speaker 4 (15:50) I know. That's like a $30,000 Dior bag. So what she's saying is what she's saying is Carmela can buy whatever bag she wants for everyone else, which by the way, did the math on this. She owes now everybody in that group, $3,000 gifts, because now you're going to piss someone off if you don't. So there are seven women she's paying. She's $21,000 into the season from her, her non amount of money that you make as a, as a, as a brand new, Speaker 3 (16:10) you know, housewife. I Speaker 4 (16:13) did the math. I'm like. Plus tax. She's like 25 grand in here. And she got a t-shirt and a scarf. I mean, I'm girls. I can't wait for the next birthdays. I want all of them to have birthdays, see what they come up with. But anyway, I think you're right. So maybe she's Heather is saying you're unrelated. I'm unrelatable because I'm getting a crocodile Dior. Well, Carmela is giving everyone $3,000 Dior. Yeah. Crocodile custom was 30,000 and your crop. You're all your Dior bags are around three grand. So. Speaker 4 (16:44) Wow. Wow. I never saw it because I'm not on TikTok. And I mean, I have an account, but I just never go on it. But I, wow, Carlos, I, this is really just, I mean, you just, you Speaker 3 (16:54) just opened up this episode with a really, there we go. Okay. My thinking cap has to get on. Speaker 8 (17:01) How the, okay. Speaker 2 (17:02) How, well, let me ask you this. Let's, let's have a real conversation. Is that tone deaf? Speaker 4 (17:10) Well, for me it was because I didn't even get Speaker 3 (17:12) it. Speaker 3 (17:15) I was tone deaf. So Speaker 4 (17:17) you pointed it out, but I don't know. I mean, I would, I really would love to get inside Heather's mind and say why maybe she wasn't even, you know, I have done, I'm going to, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. I have done things on national television or with you even that I have thought. one thing in my mind and then everyone else perceived it another way. And I'm like, oh my gosh, that's not at all what I meant. That's not at all what I was doing or that, you know, that's not what was going in my mind. I would love to hear what Heather's real reason was for that song and that unrelatable. Is it that the bag is unrelatable because it's, I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt that she wasn't tone deaf. So is, is it that the bag is unrelatable because it is a custom bag? So she's not saying it as a punch to anyone. Speaker 4 (18:08) Could that be possible? Speaker 2 (18:10) I think anything is possible. Listen, I will say this. I don't mind anybody who owns who they are and they don't try to pretend they are relatable. So my thing with Hebda Bro is this. That's what she displayed to me is exactly who I've always seen her to be. And let's be clear. I'm not saying I have a problem with it. I, Carlos King, personally don't have a problem with it. Speaker 3 (18:42) Okay. Speaker 2 (18:42) Because that's who she is. And I, as a reality producer, I want women, men, gays and gays, whomever, I want you to be who you are. Just don't... Don't pee in my face and tell me that it's raining, right? Like, don't make it seem like, no, I like going to eat New York City pizza. And no, all my friends aren't fancy. I have regular friends. Or no, Speaker 8 (19:10) this is who you are. And I like it. And I will say this. I think that's the reason why the Speaker 2 (19:17) girls, meaning the housewives, her castmates, have a big issue with her. It's because they're sort of like, just fucking Speaker 8 (19:27) own it. Speaker 4 (19:29) Yeah. I'm kind of getting that feeling, too. I'm kind of getting that feeling from the girls that that's why they're rubbed wrong. You know, and I mean, we only see a snippet of, you know, what's really taped. There could be even more or whatever. But I do feel like they're just kind of like, okay, everyone else is owning their crap these days. Like, we just need you to just own it too. Speaker 2 (19:48) And I think it's, listen, I think it's only right, I think it's fair that these women feel that way because at the end of the day, they're all on the show together trying their best to give their real life. And for fancy pants to talk shit about people behind their backs, in this case, Carmella. only to all of a sudden be chummy chummy with her. I do agree with them. It does look confusing. And that's why for me, I am not upset that these ladies are calling her out. I think it's the right thing to do, personally. Speaker 4 (20:26) Yeah. I mean, that's what this show is about though. I mean, in all reality, that's, that's what this show is all about. And every housewife show is about calling people out for what you're bothered with conflict resolution. So, yeah. And, you know, I mean, it, it seems like Heather's letting it all roll off. So maybe she is handling it right. You know, she's kind of letting, she's not getting all like upset about it. She's just kind of like letting it go. You know, she's like. She's like, even on that, she's like, when they were in shopping for sunglasses, they were, she was like, yeah, they're, they're like, isn't