The Supreme Court Stops Trump's Mail Ballot Plan, Hegseth Faces Impeachment, and Canada Pivots to the EU

Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov

Jessica Tarlov and Aaron Parnas discuss the U.S.-Canada trade war, Canada's pivot toward the EU, Supreme Court rulings on mail-in ballots, a

Key takeaways

• Canada is actively seeking closer ties with the EU amid deteriorating relations with the U.S.
• Mark Carney's leadership reflects a strategic shift away from America due to inconsistent U.S. policy under Trump.

Main topics

• U.S.-Canada trade tensions
• Canada-EU strategic alliance

Notable quotes

"Middle powers must act together because if we're not at the table, we're on the menu." – Mark Carney

Conclusion

Despite global instability and domestic political challenges, the host

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Raging moderates. He Speaker 8 (1:14) was just reading the whole intro. It's great to be here. I don't know. I told you I'm nervous. I can't even speak anymore. Speaker 8 (1:24) My book's out. I'll see you guys at Speaker 7 (1:26) the Speaker 8 (1:26) Y tonight if you're in New York. Should we talk about Canada? Speaker 7 (1:31) We should. Oh, wait. We Speaker 8 (1:32) should say this. We'll be in DC next Thursday, September 24th, 7 p.m., Politics and Prose. The big one. The good one. On Connecticut Avenue. On Connecticut Avenue. Speaker 2 (1:43) It is the big one. Speaker 8 (1:44) The big one. So we need to fill it up. Aaron and I will be there talking about I Disagree. And I will be more. more coherent than whatever you're about to hear for the next 26 minutes. Okay. I want to talk about Canada. Mark Carney, I'm just very into him. And it seems like the whole world is, actually. As the U.S.-Canada trade war appears far from over, that is our fault, Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney is in Europe this week, pushing for a, quote, unique alliance between Canada and the European Union. He's pressing for 10 EU countries who have yet to ratify the trade deal with Canada to move forward. Kalshi puts the odds at 18 % of the US and Canada finalizing their trade deal by November 1st. That matters. November 1st, it could even be November 3rd. That's when the election is. Donald Trump knows that this is an issue that is becoming a huge drag on their ratings, the economy, his personal approval, and whether people think that Republicans can do the job. Here's Carney talking yesterday about his relationship with Trump. Speaker 6 (2:48) I went to the White House in the spring of last year. And at the end of the meeting, President... gave me I want to give you mark I want to give you something really special for this Trump president Trump yeah yeah president I want to give you something very special mark so special and and and I opened this box and it's this big gold key wow mr. president is fantastic he said yeah it's a key it's a key to the White House you just bring it they'll let you in and then he says maybe they'll shoot you Speaker 6 (3:26) I was like, and that sort of sums up the relationship that we have. Okay, Speaker 8 (3:32) so there's substance to this, but I really like when world leaders also kind of talk like housewives. You know, Speaker 7 (3:41) when he Speaker 8 (3:41) goes, and I was like, uh. Speaker 8 (3:46) This is very Trumpian, obviously, and that it being a gold key, I like that Carney, you know, did the hands, which, you know, they might shoot you. What does it mean for the future? It seems very clear that the EU is down with this new relationship and is happy to have them. It feels quite serious, though, that they are taking this kind of action. Speaker 2 (4:11) Oh, it is. And I think it brings me back to I don't know if you remember, but. During Davos, the economic forum earlier this year, Mark Carney went up there and said, quote, middle powers must act together because if we're not at the table, we're on the menu. And that quote really kind of rings true today. Mark Carney is realizing and has realized over the past many months that he doesn't have a viable partner in the president of the United States. He has a very, the best way to, I think I could explain it as just a very. I don't want to say reluctant, but more kind of chaotic partner. It's not consistent. You don't know what you're getting out of this government. And so he's looking elsewhere. He's looking abroad and justifiably so. And so he's looking to Europe. He's looking elsewhere to strengthen ties, to kind of redefine the world order in a way, because what we're seeing right now really is a change in the world order. We are seeing America becoming more isolationist. We're seeing Canada. which was once our closest ally, not just in distance, but also in allyship is now moving further from us and closer to Europe. And that's our doing. We did that. So I'm not surprised. I'm curious to see whether or not Canada becomes an associate member, the first ever of the EU. I think that would be significant. Another part of it that was really significant to me, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, was the mutual defense discussion. They talked about establishing NATO-like... protections for EU countries, which would be significant not just for Canada, but also for Ukraine, ultimately, when Ukraine joins the EU, which will happen in the next five to 10 years. So it's a major shift in the world order, but I think it's justifiable. Speaker 8 (5:50) I love the optimism that you think that Ukraine is going to join the EU in the next five to 10 years. I Speaker 2 (5:55) do. Speaker 8 (5:56) I love the optimism about it. It's long overdue and probably would have helped them before even Putin took Crimea. It feels quaint now, back in 2014. But that would be great. The EU would be the open door to this. Ursula von der Leyen, or van der Leyen, I always... Mispronounce it. It's von Speaker 2 (6:20) der Leyen. It's Von der Leyen, Speaker 8 (6:23) you know, posting that they want to have this relationship. He's getting very good marks even from conservatives like Stephen Harper. And it's been interesting to see folks who followed the Canadian election last time around and kind of put Mark Carney in this bucket with Justin Trudeau and said like, oh, you know, liberals aren't going to be good at managing the economy. And he's put forward all of these new reforms. And I thought it was. particularly telling that Blackstone's president, John Gray, was talking about how Canada is a sleeping giant economically. He went to this investment summit in Toronto, and that's where Stephen Harper said, I wish that we had done this, frankly, and that you wouldn't expect this to be coming from the liberals, though you do have a Speaker 1 (7:09) central Speaker 8 (7:10) banker as prime minister in Mark Carney. So it seems like things are going his way. Speaker 8 (7:17) I can't say that I thought that my colleagues who said that the trade war would end on time and even were talking about that happening on Labor Day, right, and that this would never go into effect at full force were correct. But this feels like it is deteriorating much quicker than expected and that Carney is really not waiting around for any further. conversations with the U.S. before he makes these new plans, the common defense pact that is going to be much of the world. And we discussed this on last week's Raging Perspective or maybe the one before. But the thawing of military relationships or talks with China is also an enormous deal when it comes to this. Speaker 8 (8:05) There's not much sunshine for Americans in terms of what's going on on the global stage. Speaker 2 (8:11) No, there isn't. And it's going to take decades, decades to kind of fix the damage of the past 18 months and the damage of what the next two years will bring, especially the lack of soft power America currently has abroad, whether it's through cuts to USAID or just this kind of unipolar vision that Trump has of America isolationism and of J.D. Vance somehow becomes president. It's only going to get worse. So it's going to take a long time for us to kind of get back to where we once were. Something else that is going to take a