The Cursed Bloodline of Ham
Prometheus Lens
Hosts Doc Brown and Tim Constantine explore the genealogical connections between the post-flood lineage of Ham and various ancient occult tr
Key takeaways
- The lineage of Ham (Cush, Mizraim, Canaan, and Put) is theorized to be a primary conduit for the resurgence of Nephilim-related knowledge after the flood.
- Canaan is described in the Book of Jubilees as discovering ancient tablets containing the teachings of the Watchers.
Main topics
- Genesis 10 Genealogies
- The Line of Ham
Notable quotes
The difference between the known and the unknown is that journey, my friends.
Conclusion
The episode provides a deep-dive into esoteric biblical interpretation
Transcript preview
Speaker 1 (0:00) The modern and all the practices that go along with it, from what I'm seeing, it goes back to Ham, the sons of Noah, and what they were up to. And they, as you know, they very quickly departed from the ways of their righteous father. And then some of the other traditions I'm looking at says that she was, Naaman was the wife of Ham. Like, so, and I'm still trying to... He slept with her. Speaker 3 (0:23) It Speaker 1 (0:23) goes right back to this guy. I think all of you, I think I'm seeing this in Rosicrucianism as well. I've been looking into that. A main pillar of Rosicrucianism is Hermes and a lot of Egyptian teaching. And Hermes is said to be Cush. But by the time you get to Numbers 13, I think Numbers 13, 32, which is after the flood, Moses sends in the 12 spies. What do they see? Giants. Giants are back. Where did they see the giants? In the land of Canaan. Goes back to the names. Canaan, son of Ham, son of Noah. I don't think it's a coincidence that they see giants in the land of Canaan because I think this is the Rephaim. This is the resurgence of the giants after the flood. They come back somehow through the line of Canaan, and it just so happens to be this kid who goes out and finds this tablet that Jubilee's talking about. Speaker 3 (1:35) Disclaimer. To the Pharisees and Karens out there. How Speaker 2 (1:37) dare you? Speaker 3 (1:38) All guests on this show do not reflect the opinions of the host. Speaker 3 (1:43) The purpose of this show is to have interesting conversations, stretch our minds, and grow. We're Speaker 2 (1:46) not what we want. If Speaker 3 (1:49) you are looking for an echo chamber, viewer and listener discretion is advised. You Speaker 2 (1:57) talk about extreme. Speaker 2 (2:46) Hey guys, what is happening and what is up? Speaker 3 (2:50) Hey, hold out that glass baby because you know what time it is. We're about to fill it up. Welcome to the Prometheus Lens Podcast, the place where the conversations are always in lightning. I'm your host, Doc Brown, and here we like to use the allegory of the Prometheus Lens to take a second look at everything. Hey, if you're new to this channel, welcome to the hero's journey. Please be sure and hit that like button, Speaker 2 (3:10) man, and smash Speaker 3 (3:12) that subscribe button. And while I got you to it, you guys, check out this banner. down below with all our social medias at their various platforms that would be much much appreciated babe if you didn't know now you know i just want to let you know up front thank you for tuning Speaker 2 (3:25) in and you have chosen wisely Speaker 3 (3:28) You have chosen wisely. I've got a great episode for you guys lined up today. I've got Speaker 1 (3:32) a Speaker 3 (3:32) returning guest, a friend of the show you guys love every time I have him on, so I know you'll love this one. This is one we're both going to nerd out with you guys, but Speaker 2 (3:40) I'd like to welcome back to the show, man, Mr. Tim Speaker 3 (3:42) Constantine from the 6th Century Podcast. What's up, bro? Speaker 1 (3:46) What's up, Doc? How are you doing today, man? Hey, I'm happy to be here. Yeah, man. Let's nerd out today. That sounds good to me. Speaker 3 (3:54) Hell yeah. Hey, man, just for anybody, man, that's maybe new to the channel or seen the artwork and the subject matter and clicked for the first time, hasn't been exposed to me or even you, introduce yourself to those people, man. Let them know who you are, what you do, and your Speaker 1 (4:06) podcast. Just kind of give an introduction, man. Of course, yeah. I'm Tim Constantine. I get into all the weird stuff. One of my personal favorite subjects to dive into, particularly... Speaker 1 (4:26) Daining to the weird is anything weird that's in the Bible. That's one of my favorite things to do. And of course, I don't just we do conspiracy. We do alternative theories. We do a lot of hidden history and and that sort of thing as well over at my show. But yeah, it's a six sensory podcast. You can find me over there. Six is spelled out. I don't use the number six. I got to mention that sometimes for people. And you can find me on Spotify, YouTube, Apple. And if you want bonus content, I'm on Patreon as well. But yeah, the best place to find me is Sixth Sensory Podcast on Spotify or YouTube. And yeah, I talk about a lot of the same stuff that Doc here talks about. We like to dive in and do decodes and deep dives and just get the truth out there, I think is the objective here. Speaker 3 (5:14) Oh, yeah, man. It's just fun. You know what I mean? I hate to steal from Sam Tripley, you know, when he talks about when people start talking about lost history and giants, you know, conspiracies like these are a few of my favorite things. So, yeah, it's never a work day. It's always fun days, man. Speaker 1 (5:32) Yeah, it is. And, you know, especially some of the stuff I've been getting into recently. That's the thing. I'll spend all this time researching and hours will fly by and I won't even realize it. because i'm into the topics i like to stick to stuff i'm actually interested in and it's like what you're saying there's you're doing all this work but you don't feel like you're you're working at all and that's the best way to go about it i think yeah Speaker 3 (6:00) ain't nothing to lose track a couple hours and thinking you're only sitting at the desk or whatever uh for 30 minutes or something like that. So yeah, I get that completely. Clock more hours now that I do this stuff full time than I ever did working in a factory, but it's labor of love. It's not like work to me. Speaker 1 (6:20) Yeah. Yeah. You know, and I'm blanking on it, but there was a great quote or phrase I heard the other day pertaining to this. And it was like, you know, you quit if you do what you love. Essentially, you quit your job and you start a new one. And I don't remember how it goes. I'm not doing it justice at all. But basically what they were saying is in a very eloquent way, you quit your nine to five and then you really get to work. But it doesn't feel like work because you're doing what you love. And I'll have to look that one up and get it. Speaker 1 (6:57) out there better next time on the next show we do. You know what I'm saying? Speaker 3 (7:00) Yeah, yeah. Which my old man used to always say, you know, find something you love and figure out a way to make money at it, and then you will never work another day in your life. There you go. Speaker 1 (7:10) That's it. Speaker 3 (7:10) Yeah, man. That's it. Well, dude, what are we talking about today? I know you cover a smorgasbord of topics. I think we've talked about – I'm trying to think now. We've talked about Esau. We've talked about Nazi Germany and the esoteric stuff with the occult. with the Nazis and stuff like that. What are we getting into today, man? Speaker 1 (7:30) Well, maybe picking up on some of our previous conversations on bloodlines too. I'd like to pick your brain on some stuff that I'm looking into. Cause I know like, or at least the word on the street is doc Brown is writing another book and Speaker 3 (7:43) it's Speaker 1 (7:44) on, what does it say here on the screen? Royal bloodlines, right? Yeah. Speaker 3 (7:47) Yeah. Speaker 1 (7:48) Uh, so I was like, I got to come on here. We've talked about this in the past as well. I know you and I have done several shows where we, we. find our way onto this subject or this topic of the serpent seed, the seed war, the dragon bloodline, that sort of thing. But this time I'm taking it from a different angle. Like Cain is still in the picture, but I'm looking at it from a different angle. And, you know, I want your sort of expertise and trained eye on some of this. Basically what I'm looking at right now is the line of Ham. Speaker 1 (8:26) Of course, post-flood. I know Ham was around before the flood, but I'm looking at the sons of Noah. And I realized very quickly while looking into this that the connections to the occult and this line of Ham are innumerable. It kind of blew my mind a little bit. And of course, you know, I'm sure from looking into what you're researching right now, as it pertains to bloodlines, they are intertwined with the esoteric and with occult traditions. But I didn't know it was like this. It seems as if the modern occult, what we would classify as a modern occult, and all the practices that go along with it, from what I'm seeing, it goes back to Ham. Now that's a bold, it's a pretty bold claim, but I've got some receipts, I think. And I think this is like, I think I'm onto something here. You know, we're talking about the sons of Noah and what they were up to. And they, as you know, they very quickly departed from the ways of their righteous father. And I think they brought in all these little G's right after the flood. And, you know, it's like, what do they say? You know, pastor's kids sometimes have it worse. It's like it's like the devil really wants to get to them the quickest. Speaker 2 (9:46) You Speaker 1 (9:46) know, that's it's almost like putting a trophy on the mantle. I think for the spirit world, like if you can get the pastor's kid. That seems to have some sort of a bigger resounding echo to the dark side, right? So I think they very quickly wanted to get to taint and corrupt the children of Noah. That's just my personal theory on what's happening here. But I think because I don't know, the devil seemed to pounce on these guys rather quickly. Speaker 3 (10:16) Oh, yeah. Speaker 1 (10:18) Yeah. Speaker 3 (10:18) And it was a curse. seed from the beginning you know i'm trying to think now i think it was the testament of abraham it said that the wife that noah took on the boat was his second wife and that god told him to go to lamech and take Nema for a wife so that his curse of the two bloodlines would continue. And that's who Ham's mother was. And when they come across the flood, he had sex with his mother. That's when he uncovered his father's nakedness. So, I mean, it was an inbred bloodline right from the rip. And then Jubilees talks about him finding those stones with all the... uh esoteric knowledge from the pre-flood world and all that kind of stuff so yeah i'm with you 100 wow Speaker 1 (11:07) yeah this is why i wanted to talk with you because i've i was looking at the name of thing and i'm starting to see a lot of tradition that says that she was the wife of it depends on what you read but sometimes the name is the wife of of noah and jasher talks about that And then some of the other traditions I'm looking at says that Naaman was the wife of Ham. And I'm still trying to— He slept with her. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. I think that— It's not that every one of these traditions is exactly 100 % right. It's that they're hitting at something. They're hitting at the broader point that there is a Nema who's associated with Cain, who's involved somehow, who's involved with procreating and helping them create, helping them extend the bloodline, and also helping them cultivate the knowledge that was lost. Speaker 3 (12:05) hearing Speaker 1 (12:05) this deluge and it's like you said i pulled it up because you brought up jubilee the book of jubilees i want to remind people that this was found with the dead sea scrolls i like jubilees i like enoch as well um i'm i'm 50 50 on the book of giants i like it but i don't know how i think as far as biblical history books go i think you can i think you're relatively sitting safe with jubilee and enoch uh jasser i'm a little 50 50 on but yeah anyway jubilee 8 i think is the passage you're talking about now i got to read this because this one blew my mind because i just stumbled upon it again recently and basically Speaker 1 (12:47) It's Kanan, and I'll get back to the genealogy here in a minute and explain who all these characters are for people, but Kanan, he's a son of Ham. It says, Speaker 1 (13:02) And then, let's see, where do I start here? And she bare him a son in the third of the week, and they called his name Canaan. This is Jubilee 8, starting in verse 2. And the son grew, and his father taught him writing, and he went to seek for himself a place where he might seize for him a city. And he found a writing which former generations had carved on a rock. And he read what was there on and he just transcribed it and he sinned owning to it. He sinned against it for it contained the teaching of the watchers in accordance with which they used to observe the omens of the sun and the moon and the stars and all the signs of the heaven. And Canaan wrote it down and he said nothing regarding it for he was afraid to speak to Noah about it, lest he should be angry with him on account of it. He was like, Noah's going to be mad. Noah remembers these beings coming down. He remembers the time of the watchers. This is not going to fly. And he goes on to, in the 13th Jubilee, the second week, the first year thereof, he took himself a wife. He's talking about Canaan. And they tell her name. Her name was Melka. She was a son of Japheth, so he took somebody from his brother's line for a wife, and they begat a son, and they called his name Shalah, for he said, truly, I have been sent. And I think that that's included in this passage because it's alluding to him finding the stone somehow and being... feeling as if he's like some sort of a chosen one for finding this i think that's the context here but i think this was a big deal for him and i think this is just one way that the knowledge of the other watchers made it through this event and it's the name of the game i i think it's just you know one example how how we get this mystery school knowledge there's all these other legends like this like mount moriah even um where they think that there were tablets stored underground. There's legends pertaining to Egypt where knowledge was stored underground and found at a later time. I've got this book over here from this archaeologist who found, you know, said he, in the 20s, he excavated the south wall of the Great Pyramid. And they went in there and they found all these tablets with knowledge that was put there by who they believed to be the Atlanteans. who I would say is the line of Cain. So I think that there was just all over the place, the Watchers and the sons of Cain had... basically transcribe knowledge of stone and hid it underground. I think you see that in the legend of Solon when he goes to Egypt and he meets with the priests of the temple of Neith and they take him down and they say, Solon, Solon, you Greeks, there is no tradition among you that is white with age. You guys are young. Listen to us. We're your older brothers here. Let's go down here. I'll show you the tablets and stone. This is where we come from. This is Atlantis. It's across the boards. They store the knowledge like this. But yeah, there was a couple other things. It's not just Kanan, right? I think it's all these guys. That's what I'm starting to see. It's this cast of characters that's laid out in Genesis 10. The Sons of Ham. It's Cush, Mizraim. Speaker 1 (16:37) Canaan and foot those four guys, all this knowledge seems to go back to. And of course, I think the occult exists before ham and before the flood, of course, but it's it seems to to represent itself, we'll say to the sons of ham and ham. You see, ham has this kid named Mizraim. who's also egypt another name for him is i think the hebrew is actually egypt and that's today still to this day there's literally an occult order called memphis mizraim Speaker 2 (17:13) i Speaker 1 (17:14) think it goes right back to this guy i think all of you i think i'm seeing this in rosicrucianism as well i've been looking into that um a main pillar of rosicrucianism is hermes and and a lot of egyptian teaching and hermes is said to be cush Speaker 1 (17:34) One of the sons of Ham. So it all goes. I think the most famous secret society today would probably be the Freemasons, right? And they have a legend that their craft goes back to Tubal Cain, son of Cain. Now, that's before Ham. But what I'm seeing is that Ham's lineage goes right back to that. So I think the Freemasons are involved. That's how Speaker 3 (17:59) Namor ties into that, too, now. because I think there's a hint because a lot of times if you go into the Hebrew and you look at the roots of their names, it describes their character or their role in the story. And I'm not saying these people are not real, that these things did not happen, but I think when they wrote them down and retold them to really nail down the moral of the story or what they were trying to prove, they changed the names to fit. the description of their role in the story because name of her name means uh calmly and beautiful And when you go to like the book of Enoch, it says that the angels came down, bread with the daughters of men, because they found that the daughters of men were calmly and beautiful. And then those three sons and two will came as one of them from Lamech. All of a sudden they become masters of their crafts. One's a master in ironworking, one's a master in agriculture and all this stuff. So I think it was trying to think. Ryan Peterson that I first heard this from, but he's like, I think that's a hint that Nama was one of the first brides and that Lamech traded Nama, the comely and beautiful daughter, to the fallen angels for that esoteric knowledge. Speaker 1 (19:13) I thought that was Speaker 3 (19:15) pretty cool. Speaker 1 (19:16) That's what I hold as well. That's what I think is happening as well. There's a lot more clues with that. But yeah, it's like you're saying, Doc. It's in the names. I think that's spot on. Even Japheth had a son named Tubal. And I'm not going to get much into Japheth, but of course he's one of the three sons of Noah. And it's like, why are these guys naming their kids after Cain? I mean, what's going on with this? You know, there's some ethnonomy happening here. There's what they call, it gets into onomastics, I think is the word they use. It's a study of names and their origins. And there's some legitimate, like, onomastic connections here. I think that Rama would be another one. He's another son of Ham. Speaker 1 (20:12) I think they named Rama after the Rama Empire, which was an empire that fought with Atlantis. So there's a lot of little rabbit trails you could go down here with the names, but they all seem to sort of tell a story in their own right. Speaker 2 (20:29) But Speaker 1 (20:30) I think the question here is like, one of the big questions I had once I started seeing the occult connections was like, did Kanan... Speaker 1 (20:41) reconnect with the watcher knowledge like the book of jubilee is suggesting and and did he bring back the giants because you've got genesis 6 of course you've got the flood you've got the giants and their knowledge apparently being wiped out but by the time you get to numbers 13 i think numbers 13 32 which is after the flood moses sends in the 12 spies what do they see giants oh so the giants are back uh where do they see the giants in the land of canaan goes back to the names canaan son of ham son of noah like i don't think it's i don't think it's a coincidence that they see giants in the land of canaan because i think this is the refi and this is the resurgence of the giants after the flood they come back somehow through the line of canaan and it just so happens to be this kid who goes out and finds this tablet that jupilee's talking about that literally says it was knowledge from the watchers. So... It goes back to this Genesis 10 group, man, the line of Ham. These are the sons of Noah who rebel against the righteous father. They rebel against their heavenly father and their earthly father. And what they form from what I can see here is akin to the Imperial fleet of the dark side in Star Wars, essentially, like the big fleet. That's. People might think I'm being dramatic here, but we're talking about the likes of Nimrod and the Canaanites, and they're all in the same family, and the Bible calls them out. And the Bible seems to name the whole fleet, if you will, in Genesis 10. And so that's what got me started with all this. I think the Bible listing these guys out is very significant. I think if it's in the Bible, down to the letter. It's in there for a reason. That's just how the more and more I study this book, the more and more I realize, okay, it tells us things for a reason. And there's layers to it. And it is brilliantly laid out. But yeah, I think getting into Genesis 10 would be something I'd like to do today and just show people who these guys are and what they were up to, essentially. But I'll shut up for now. Speaker 3 (23:03) No, no, you're good. Because what's funny is... We kind of talked a