Oops All Chatter! Part 2

Pod Meets World

The hosts of Pod Meets World engage in a sprawling, lighthearted conversation covering generational parenting shifts, modern media consumption, and personal lifestyle

Key takeaways

• Danielle Fishel handled her seven-year-old son Adler swearing at a restaurant by focusing on context and social awareness rather than punishment, tracing the word's origin to fifth-grade soccer players.
• Ryder Strong champions physical zines as authentic, low-barrier creative outlets that bypass algorithmic gatekeeping, contrasting them favorably against Substack, Tumblr, and Instagram feeds.

Main topics

• Parenting and swearing
• Zines and self-publishing

Notable quotes

"It is tacky to think that just because whatever you think, whatever you feel and whatever you want to do at any point in time is totally fine, no matter what the circumstances are."

Conclusion

The episode offers a relatable, multi-generational snapshot of modern

Transcript preview

Speaker 5 (0:00) This is an iHeart Podcast. Speaker 5 (0:02) Guaranteed human. Lisa, tell them about our new show. We have a new podcast. It's called Don't Lie to Me. I'm Lexi Iwano. We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart. And I'm Lisa DiGiulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions. And at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. Now in my 30s, being the founder of New Shoes, good taste is my business. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get Speaker 7 (0:32) your podcasts. Speaker 7 (0:35) I'm Melissa Jeltsin, host of the What Happened to Her podcast. We're kicking off the season with the Sandra Birchmore story, a case the police wrote off as a suicide in a snowstorm. Her family never bought it, and the man they suspected wore a badge. You Speaker 4 (0:51) never know who that devil is because he's wearing a disguise. Sometimes it's a police uniform. Speaker 7 (0:56) And you can get access to all episodes 100 % ad-free with an iHeart True Crime Plus subscription exclusively on Apple Podcasts, available only to iHeart True Crime Plus subscribers. So don't wait. Head to Apple Podcasts, search for iHeart True Crime Plus, and subscribe today. Speaker 5 (1:14) Hi, this is Kylie Brakeman, Angela Geritana, Speaker 4 (1:16) Jeremy Colhane, Patrick McDonald, and Speaker 5 (1:18) we're the hosts of the Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists podcast, the Speaker 4 (1:22) improvised character comedy podcast, where each week a new panel of artists discuss their craft. Speaker 8 (1:28) Join us for a panel of Eurovision participants. And Speaker 5 (1:31) we do a little Halloween sometimes. Does the Pope dress up? He winks on Halloween. Speaker 8 (1:36) He gets right up next to the microphone. Speaker 5 (1:38) I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other. Speaker 8 (1:41) You've never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween. Speaker 5 (1:46) Listen to Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaker 1 (1:54) I'm Lacey Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creator, and host of Scam Goddess Podcast. The true crime comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Each week I bring on an amazing guest. Speaker 8 (2:06) Ooh, I scammed him. What? I could talk to you for an hour. Speaker 1 (2:09) You're a generational yapper, like me. That's why I had to make yapping a job. And now you can catch full episodes of my show on YouTube. Start listening to Scam Goddess on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaker 1 (2:24) So like by age 11 or so, at least 70 % have a phone. Speaker 6 (2:29) I'm Dr. Joy, and this is Therapy for Black Girls. We spend our surviving middle school run getting into what's happening inside your kid's brain, the group chats, and their friendships, and what you can do about it. Speaker 8 (2:40) Your child is not doing this on purpose. Speaker 6 (2:42) That's the kind of perspective we've been pulling from the psychologists and psychiatrists who study this for a living. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaker 3 (3:03) Welcome to Podmeets World. I'm Danielle Fischel. I'm Speaker 2 (3:06) Ryder Strong. And I'm Will Friedle. Speaker 3 (3:08) We are here for our ever-rotating list of episodes that we do. We are here for our all-show chatter episode. Oops, all berries, Speaker 4 (3:17) baby. Speaker 3 (3:19) Yeah. It's the episode where we get to really showcase our 30-year friendship's ability to just enjoy each other's company and endlessly talk about utter nonsense. Utter nonsense, Speaker 4 (3:31) yes. Speaker 3 (3:32) Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fishel. I'm Ryder Strom. And I'm Will Friedle. I have a I've entered in a new era of parenting that Ryder will be able to help me with. Adler, for the first time ever. Speaker 4 (3:48) Started smoking. Speaker 3 (3:50) He is seven. He's Speaker 4 (3:52) seven. Speaker 3 (3:52) It's only a year. Speaker 2 (3:55) Oh, my Speaker 3 (3:55) God. He's getting close. No, he said the F word. Absolutely. He's seven? He's seven. Yeah. He said it. As if he's been saying it Speaker 4 (4:09) his Speaker 3 (4:10) whole Speaker 4 (4:10) life. I think that's when Indy started saying it. Yeah, I think seven was the time. How did you respond? Speaker 3 (4:15) Well, first of all, it was a little embarrassing because it wasn't just with us. We were with other people, including another young person, a child. Speaker 2 (4:25) Was it by itself? Like, oh. Speaker 3 (4:28) Oh, F, when he made a mistake. And we Speaker 2 (4:32) don't even. Speaker 3 (4:34) We don't, he's never heard us say Speaker 4 (4:36) it. Speaker 3 (4:37) I will say it in moments where I think it's going to get a good laugh or if I'm really upset about something, but in front of our kids, we do not do it. We've never said it. He's never heard us say it. Speaker 2 (4:50) Yeah. You're like a sailor. Yeah. And so it was, it was like Indy just took it up like a pro. I Speaker 4 (4:56) love it. Speaker 2 (4:57) Oh, he's so good at it. He's so good at swearing. No, I mean, like, yeah, I don't know how you dealt with it, but like our whole thing is like, if when we started reacting, when people started reacting, it only got worse. Right. So then it was just like, yeah, you can do this as much as you want around us because we don't care. We're not going to police your language, but you know, you can't do it in front of other adults. You can't do it in front of other kids. We were raised way differently. We got Speaker 4 (5:22) soap in the mouth. We got Speaker 2 (5:23) a Speaker 4 (5:23) bar. So. Speaker 4 (5:25) How many bars of soap Speaker 3 (5:26) did you get? I was Speaker 4 (5:27) never a swearer. My brother Greg would have ivory soap in his mouth once a week at least. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, swearing was not taught. But Speaker 3 (5:35) did you Speaker 4 (5:35) ever Speaker 3 (5:35) get soap in the mouth? Not necessarily even for swearing. Did you get soap in the mouth? Because I had it once. I don't recall. Speaker 4 (5:39) Maybe once. But, yeah, we were never like we were. Actively discouraged. Why not just electric Speaker 2 (5:45) shock? Why not just like, oh my gosh, a difference between electric shocking and Speaker 4 (5:50) giving someone soap in the mouth. It doesn't Speaker 2 (5:52) work is what I'm saying. Like, does it work? Well, I didn't swear around my Speaker 4 (5:55) parents anymore. I can tell you that. Yeah. Every week. It didn't. Right, but Greg also did it because Greg was a little asshole. And he's the first one to tell you that. Get Speaker 2 (6:04) me Speaker 4 (6:04) the bar of soap. I need some ivory. Can we get some soap for Will's mouth? Speaker 3 (6:07) I Speaker 4 (6:07) need some ivory. That's sponsored by ivory. Yeah, no, it was. So we had the soap in the mouth. Yeah, absolutely. Hell yes. Now you didn't say it. How did you respond? So Speaker 3 (6:16) Jensen and I were both there. And Adler was to my right. Jensen was to my left. And he went, oh, F. And we went, oh, F. And Jensen and I looked at each other and then I looked at the other people I was with and I said, Speaker 5 (6:31) he's never said that. Speaker 3 (6:34) And they were like. Speaker 3 (6:36) And I was like, yeah. And then you could tell Adler was like, he had that nervous energy around him. Like, this is the first time I've ever, I've ever done that. And, and he could tell. And I just said. oh, wow, I've never heard you say that before. And he was like, oh yeah. He's like, mom, look, I had, cause we were doing something with shaving cream. We had shaving cream all over his hands. I was like, why don't you go rinse that off? And he was like, okay. He went into the kitchen, kitchen, rinsed off his hands and then came back, but didn't go back to participating with us. Just kind of like stayed off to the side. And I could tell, honestly, if he wasn't so worried about being in front of other people, he probably would have burst into tears just at the thought that like he had done something wrong. a real perfectionist. So knowing he had done something that we were not going to be happy with was already like, oh man, I really just screwed up. So I immediately knew he was beating himself up and I didn't need to go hard on him. And so then when we like, we left and he was, he got immediately very close to me and he put his head into my stomach and he was like, are you mad at me? And I said, I'm not mad at you, but I'm just, I'm a, I'm a little confused. I'm a little confused. Cause I don't know. I don't know where you heard that. So I'm just like, where, you know, where did you hear it? And he was like, I don't want to talk about it. And I said, okay. I say, we don't have to talk about it right now. I said, but at some point I do want to just kind of have a general idea of, cause your dad and I don't talk like that. And so I'm just kind of curious, like we also don't really let him watch things where they talk like Speaker 4 (8:06) that. Speaker 3 (8:06) I learned it from Indy. Speaker 2 (8:09) And he showed Speaker 3 (8:10) up Speaker 2 (8:10) at the school one day and went, hey, what the fuck is up, Speaker 3 (8:12) bro? And that was it. And so then Adler, when we got home, he ended up saying, okay, I'm ready to talk about it now. And he said, yeah. He said, I learned it at school. He plays soccer every lunch with the fifth graders. And, you know, they're running around and kicking balls. And, yeah, fifth graders are. Literally kicking Speaker 2 (8:29) each other in the Speaker 3 (8:29) balls. Well, my kids do that. My kids are doing that in the house. Oh, my Speaker 2 (8:33) God. Speaker 3 (8:34) But the fifth graders, I'm sure, are running around and saying, oh, yeah. Sure, we were Speaker 4 (8:37) always swearing. I mean, by that age, seven, eight years old, I mean, we were swearing and running around and saying stuff we shouldn't have said and learning about sex. And, you know, you're talking about with your friends for all that stuff. Speaker 2 (8:48) I'd say, like, if you police it too much, it becomes more powerful, you know? Speaker 4 (8:54) Yeah, I guess it's also a generational thing. When we were kids, we were just, you were told not to swear. I mean, you didn't have the idea of like you didn't go to a house and like I don't think I had one single one of my friends in the late 70s, early 80s that were like, yeah, my parents let me swear at home. Like it was just yeah, it was bad language. You just didn't you didn't swear. You Speaker 2 (9:12) also didn't have any parents who you didn't call any of your parents by their first name. No. Any of your friends, parents like I. That's Speaker 4 (9:19) an Speaker 2 (9:19) East Speaker 4 (9:19) Coast, West Coast thing. Speaker 2 (9:20) Yeah, I also grew up in an era where I had friends who would call their parents by their first name. Oh, hell no. That became like a moment where people would be like, you know, Chris, I did it. Yeah, no, that's your mom. Speaker 4 (9:31) Yeah. Speaker 2 (9:32) No, it Speaker 4 (9:32) was always Mr. Mrs. or doctor or attorney or whatever. That's how we were. Yeah, it was. And that was everybody. There wasn't that wasn't like a thing with my parents. That was everybody. Yeah. Like you called it Mr. Mrs. You were very polite. You were I mean, because again, one of the things you talk about with this generation that they'll never have to do. If you call one of your friends now, your friend answers the phone. I Speaker 3 (9:51) know. They'll never have to say. Speaker 4 (9:52) You first have to talk to the parents. Hi, is Mike there? That friction is so Speaker 2 (9:57) important. Hell yes. Because it's like how you bond together as a group. Like families know who your friends are, your friends' family. Like it's so, I miss that. Susan and I have been Speaker 4 (10:06) talking a lot lately about getting a house phone again. Speaker 2 (10:08) Like we miss like Speaker 3 (10:10) a house phone. I know. I actually, yes, I love that idea. They make, you know, for kids, like tin can phones. Yeah, we have one for kids. Oh, yeah. He can call his Speaker 2 (10:18) grandparents. He can call his friends. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He doesn't use it that much. Like, I mean, it's not going to be the same. Does he have a cell? No. Not great. No. Like, I mean, we're at the age now. So he's 11. Everybody has Apple Watches. They all got Apple Watches like as like the gateway drug to the phone. Speaker 2 (10:39) And now at 11, everybody's starting, not everybody, but people, his friends are starting to get phones. They're in middle school. And we are, I'm holding, I'm holding the line. I'm holding the 16. That's Speaker 3 (10:50) what I said Speaker 2 (10:51) too. I'm like, but I know I'm going to cave, but like I'm fighting as much as I can. That's great. I Speaker 3 (10:56) mean, I think if you cave, cave at 15. Speaker 2 (10:58) Whatever. I'm holding a slot. Speaker 3 (10:59) You know, I'm Speaker 2 (11:00) going to cave until like my wife threatens to leave me basically. Like I'm sort of like, you know, Basically, until he's driving, I don't Speaker 1 (11:07) want Speaker 2 (11:07) him to have a phone. That's exactly what I told Adam. Literally on his own somewhere. Do Speaker 4 (11:11) you Speaker 2 (11:11) think he'll want to drive? I hear this whole generation is like 18, 19 goes by and then they're like, because that was previous. Is it coming back now where they're driving again? I think people want to drive again. I don't know. That's been my experience. Like most of my friends with kids in high school, they're like, can't wait to Speaker 4 (11:25) drive. It was such a rite of passage. Speaker 2 (11:26) I Speaker 3 (11:27) mean, yeah. The day of my 16th birthday, I got my license. I think, I mean, Adler's been talking about when he gets to drive and what he wants to drive since he was little. Like he can't wait. He seems like Speaker 4 (11:38) a muscle car guy. Speaker 3 (11:39) He actually, we went to San Francisco to go visit my cousin and they let us borrow their Toyota 4Runner. And you know, your girl had a Toyota 4Runner. And Adler was like, you, you did? You had one of these? And I was like, yes. And it was so cool. And he was like, I want, yeah. I was like, he's like, I want one of these. And I was like, yeah, you do. I still have one. I know. They're great. I Speaker 2 (12:03) love Speaker 4 (12:03) it so much. They're great. Okay. Yeah. Good. I'm glad that the kids are driving again. Like drive. It was so. I mean, just in Speaker 2 (12:10) time for, you know, automated driving. So that scares Speaker 4 (12:14) the hell out of me. Speaker 2 (12:15) It's so much safer. I know. Like the idea of him driving versus him using it. Like if, if he can get a car that will drive for him, I'd rather do that. Yeah. I'm like, fine. Speaker 4 (12:25) I know. Speaker 2 (12:25) It is so Speaker 4 (12:26) weird. Gotta learn how to shift. Gotta learn how to shift. Gotta learn how to Speaker 3 (12:29) shift. I don't know how to shift. You don't Speaker 2 (12:31) know Speaker 3 (12:31) how to shift either? No, I don't know how to drive a manual. Really? No. But I Speaker 2 (12:35) always was like, no, Indy's gonna learn how to drive. But they actually literally don't make those cars anymore. You have to specifically Speaker 4 (12:40) ask for one. I know. But I Speaker 2 (12:42) just like the idea that you can drive anything. The idea that you could, if you need to, in an emergency or in some situation, drive whatever. But I guess, you know, if it's never come up for you, maybe it's not a thing. Speaker 4 (12:53) Well, you mean when AI takes over the world and all the self-driving cars tried to kill you? That's when you jump into a manual again. Thank you very much. Speaker 2 (13:00) Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 3 (13:01) Yeah, you've got your sitting in your... Oh, no, you got rid of your... Is the Celica you still have? Oh, I still have my Celica. It's a stick shift. It's a stick shift. Yeah. I just noticed Speaker 2 (13:09) I have a neighbor, like, on the street behind me has a bunch of, like, cars. You know, it's one of the houses with, like, a bunch of rotting cars. Yes. I think there are two Celicas. I'll check. But I was like walking by, you know, I was like listening. So I didn't really like. Can you ask? I want to buy one. Would you really? I really would. They're like two. And I was like, I think this is the same. They're both red. I think they're the same color as yours. Is one of them a convertible? I don't know. I was just like, I think those are Celicas. I should check. I should definitely check. Speaker 7 (13:37) I'm Melissa Jeltsin, host of the What Happened to Her podcast. We're kicking off the season with the Sandra Birchmore story, a case the police wrote off as a suicide in a snowstorm. Her family never bought it, and the man they suspected wore a badge. You Speaker 4 (13:52) never know who