More Dugout Dads with the Sandlot Cast

Pod Meets World

In this episode of 'Dugout Dads,' co-hosts Danielle Fishel and Patrick Renna welcome actor Tom Gehry, known for his role in the classic film

Key takeaways

• A chance encounter in New York City with a stranger wearing a 'You're Killing Me Smalls' t-shirt sparked Patrick Renna's social media fame through a viral selfie.

Main topics

• Reunion of 'Sandlot' cast members

Notable quotes

'He's the straight man. He's the Robin Williams in Birdcage. He's doing, like, some serious acting shit.'

Conclusion

The episode celebrates the enduring bond and mutual respect among 'Sandlot' cast members,

Transcript preview

Speaker 8 (0:00) This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. I survived nine months in captivity, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are The Survivor Files. Every week, I'm with survivors who lived through the unthinkable, abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. These are stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If Speaker 4 (0:36) your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. Pro Society is a weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. Each week, we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and pop culture with your favorite writers, book talk creators, and plenty of overthought opinions. Yeah, I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. Listen to Pro Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaker 8 (1:06) Did you hear the new episode of the Hey Jonas podcast? We are Speaker 6 (1:10) at D23, so we'll see who stops by. The Speaker 8 (1:12) cast of Frozen stopped by. Kristen Bell, Josh Gad, and Idina Menzel. I Speaker 6 (1:16) auditioned for Frozen. What? For Kristoff. They said, okay, what are you going to be singing today? I said, I don't know. That must Speaker 8 (1:21) have been why you didn't get it. Well, you probably Speaker 1 (1:23) won. Speaker 8 (1:24) Plus, John Stamos, Hayden Christensen from Star Wars, and more. And Speaker 1 (1:27) I guess I can share that, uh... Speaker 8 (1:29) Listen to the latest episode of Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaker 1 (1:40) Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook. Each week, we talk to someone in show business and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, Adam Scott, Danny McBride, Ben Stiller, and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaker 3 (2:12) Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Dugout Dads podcast. I am Danielle Fishel. Speaker 2 (2:18) I am Patrick Renna. Oh, you Speaker 3 (2:20) picked right up on it. Only episode two and look at you firing on all cylinders. You're Speaker 2 (2:25) sort of co-host. Speaker 3 (2:26) Absolute co-host. Now that you've really come into your own, I feel much better saying that. This Speaker 2 (2:30) is Speaker 3 (2:30) the Speaker 2 (2:30) Danielle Fishel podcast about Dugout Dads. Speaker 3 (2:34) We are joined right now by someone. Extra special. I can't wait to hear what his title's going to be. Speaker 2 (2:41) Oh. You Speaker 3 (2:42) better start thinking about it if you don't know yet. I can't say his title Speaker 2 (2:44) out loud. Oh. Because it'll offend others. You're going Speaker 3 (2:47) to have to. The whole point of this is to offend everyone at all times. Well, this includes, Speaker 2 (2:51) okay. We're joined by Speaker 3 (2:52) Tom Gehry. How you doing, Tom? Speaker 6 (2:55) Very, very good. It's been a great morning. Speaker 2 (2:57) Good. Your cup is very fitting. We don't have the rights, so please don't say it out loud. I would never. But we can probably show it. Oh, there it is. Yeah, well, cheers. Cheers. There Speaker 6 (3:07) he is, Smalls. I like this with the duck. Yeah, I knew you would. That's why I got Speaker 2 (3:11) it for you. Speaker 6 (3:11) That's great. It's perfect. That is adorable. I know. Patrick, Speaker 3 (3:15) one of the things you have become known for over the last several years is your social media. You are... So funny, such a good dancer, so creative. Thank Speaker 2 (3:28) you. Speaker 3 (3:29) How did that get started for you? When did you like really dive into social media? Speaker 2 (3:33) It's funny you should ask because it was with this gentleman right here. That's right. Do you remember? Speaker 6 (3:37) We were walking around in the village in New York. Speaker 2 (3:40) I don't know New York as well as you do. Yeah, we were walking around. What's Speaker 6 (3:44) the Speaker 2 (3:44) village? Is that like Tribeca? East Village? Speaker 6 (3:46) Yes. Yeah, we were in the East Village and we bumped into some guy. He was walking down the street and actually I saw him. I go, I go. but look at this guy. He's wearing a You're Killing Me Smalls t-shirt. The one with Pat on it. Me pointing Speaker 2 (3:58) in the wild. Speaker 6 (3:59) So I was like, we got to get a picture with Speaker 2 (4:00) him. Speaker 6 (4:01) This Speaker 2 (4:01) is 2020. Speaker 6 (4:01) Yeah. Speaker 2 (4:02) No, no, no. No, it's 2018. 2018, Speaker 6 (4:04) yeah. And I was like, we got to get a picture with him. So we just walked up to him and like, you know, really. But I Speaker 2 (4:09) said to him as he walked up, I was like, hey man, can we get a picture? That's me on the shirt and he's Smalls. Yeah. And the guy looks at us like, Speaker 6 (4:17) yeah. Sorry? Like what? Yeah, he had no idea who we were. And so then we. Even Speaker 2 (4:22) after the explanation, he was like, what? He obviously just picked the shirt up in a thrift store. I had no idea who he was. I think by the end of it, he started figuring it out because we're like chuckling. Creepy. At that time, what are we, 40? Yeah. Then I did a selfie and it's this great selfie that Jerry picked up. Yeah. Remember him? I mean, he's still around. He's still here. Speaker 3 (4:43) So Speaker 2 (4:44) he picked it up and it went super viral. Yeah. And that started. Speaker 3 (4:47) That kickstarted your. That Speaker 2 (4:48) started my social career. That's what started Speaker 3 (4:50) it. Speaker 2 (4:50) He flat out refuses to be on social media. You Speaker 3 (4:52) don't have any social media. Speaker 2 (4:54) I don't. Speaker 3 (4:54) He's Speaker 2 (4:54) a thespian. I don't. You're a Speaker 3 (4:56) true artiste. He's a true artiste. I Speaker 6 (4:58) don't know. I was like 18 when the internet came out. So I feel like. So Speaker 2 (5:03) was I, Tom. Speaker 6 (5:04) Yeah, that's right. But I don't know. I just felt like I'm not into it. Yeah. Yeah, technology is just not my thing. You mentioned Speaker 3 (5:09) before we started the podcast that you. love writer strong or that you thought writer strong, such a cool guy. He also has like a real love hate relationship with social media. He does have it because he wants to be able to promote the projects that are very important to him. Right. But he's strong. Like, yeah, look Speaker 2 (5:25) at his background on the podcast. It's like how many novels can be in one guy's bookshelf. You know what I mean? And he's read them all. He's read Speaker 3 (5:31) them all. He's very, very smart. And whereas you and I have leaned more into the idea of it. We're smart Speaker 2 (5:36) too though. Sure. Speaker 3 (5:38) We leaned Speaker 2 (5:39) in, though. Speaker 3 (5:39) Yeah, we really leaned in. So you go one of two ways. Speaker 2 (5:44) Right. Well, that's a good segue to, because I basically have to put all of you in a little box, apparently. Yeah, because, well, Speaker 3 (5:51) you started this. I started with Speaker 2 (5:52) Grant saying he's the smartest. Yeah. Like businessman-wise. He is business savvy. Business savvy. So the way that I would describe Tom is, Speaker 2 (6:03) And this includes me. Like, we're saying these guys are better than anyone. I think he's the best actor of the bunch. Oh, stop. I love it. I love it. But go look at his resume. The guy was in Revenant. I Speaker 6 (6:13) just got lucky. This needs some guy to throw in. And Speaker 2 (6:15) here's my point. He is the unsung hero of the s'more scene. Because, yes, I say you're killing me, Smalls. And I remember David Mickey Evans going, more, more. Say it like you're looking at a fire-breathing dragon. So then I said it. But he, in that scene, watch him. He's playing it. He's the straight man. He's the Robin Williams in Birdcage. He's doing, like, some serious acting shit. And he's the reason that scene is so funny. I mean, listen, I'll take the credit. I'll, you know. Yeah. I'll take it all. You'll take it, but any chance you get to shine a light. Thank you. I think he's Speaker 3 (6:50) the Speaker 2 (6:50) most talented. Now, this is also one of the things when we filmed Dugout Dads that I don't like to say I forgot, but it reminded me how talented all the guys are. I was like, holy shit, these guys are actors. We haven't acted together in 33 years. So this isn't like he's the best of a bad group. He's the best of what I think is a very talented group of people. Thank Speaker 6 (7:08) you, Pat. I appreciate that. Love you, buddy. You're awesome. Speaker 3 (7:11) Being that you are such a good actor and such a true artiste, was there any hesitation? In your mind, when Patrick brought up the idea of doing Dugout Dads, did you think like... Speaker 2 (7:22) He said no. Speaker 3 (7:23) I don't know that I want to revisit something I've already done or something in the same vein that I've already done. I'm only looking for new things. Speaker 6 (7:31) Actually, I really, I really like... One thing I really did like was that it was, it wasn't Sandlot. You know, it was something new. So... And we could, I knew, like, you know, we get along so well together. You know what I mean? We really are still really good friends. So, yeah, so when he brought it up, I thought it was going to be awesome. I was like, yeah. I was like, just, I want my name to be Biggs. Do the opposite of Smalls. That was my only note that I had. Commissioner Biggs. We kind Speaker 2 (8:00) of role swapped, too. Like, he's sort of the loudmouth jerky guy, and I'm sort of the, I play more of the straight man in the show. Yeah, Speaker 6 (8:08) we T2'd it. Speaker 2 (8:10) Yeah, Speaker 6 (8:10) that's right. With Tito. You know, Schwarzenegger was the bad guy in part, and then good guy in part two. It's kind of a T2 thing. I Speaker 3 (8:17) love that. Speaker 6 (8:18) Yeah. Speaker 3 (8:18) This is going to be probably the first time Dugout Dads is compared to T2. To Speaker 6 (8:23) a Speaker 3 (8:23) James Speaker 6 (8:23) Cameron. But I think we Speaker 3 (8:24) should just lean into that as well. I'm Speaker 2 (8:26) fine with it. Speaker 3 (8:27) I Speaker 6 (8:27) like that. Speaker 2 (8:28) I mean, why stop there? Speaker 6 (8:29) We should get you on the motorcycle with the jacket and just be Dugout Dads, like the poster. That would be cool. I like it. Speaker 8 (8:39) When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive for nine months. I survived, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are The Survivor Files. I just remember this low, taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. They're stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaker 3 (9:42) Did you get to improv a lot? We did. Yeah. Do you have a favorite improv moment? Speaker 6 (9:48) In Sandlot? Speaker 3 (9:49) In Dugout Speaker 2 (9:50) Dads. Oh, Speaker 6 (9:51) we didn't improv too much in Dugout Dads. Speaker 2 (9:54) No, that's funny you say that. You know, I have more of a film background. So do you. Neither of us did a lot of TV. Speaker 6 (10:01) Not much. Speaker 2 (10:02) Yeah. Not Speaker 6 (10:02) much. Speaker 2 (10:03) And in film, I feel like you can improv a little more, especially on comedies. On television, which you can attest, this was my first experience. Listen, these are short episodes, but we put a lot into the short episodes. It was filmed in a crazy seven days, but it had that sort of television show structure where we had kind of showrunners and writers and a director. And you really start to see how important the written word is. It's comedy too, and it's not a sitcom. It's a single camera. But I really saw. Speaker 2 (10:39) just how TV works from this experience, funny enough, and I've been doing this so long. But I think that kind of answers that. There wasn't a lot of improv. Speaker 6 (10:47) No, and TV's quick. You film things quicker. Speaker 2 (10:52) Yeah. Speaker 6 (10:52) So it's like you don't really have as much time to play. You're like, we've got to get this done. You know what I mean? Speaker 2 (10:57) We also had 12 pages a day. Speaker 6 (10:58) That was the one. It Speaker 3 (11:00) was a crazy schedule. Mike Pena Speaker 2 (11:01) might have improv'd a little bit, Speaker 3 (11:02) but you know what? We allowed Speaker 2 (11:03) it. Speaker 6 (11:04) We had fun with this scene, man. He was having a blast out there. Creed Bratton might have Speaker 2 (11:07) improv'd. We let the special guest stars improv Speaker 6 (11:10) a little bit. That makes sense. So Speaker 3 (11:12) what was your favorite improv moment then from Sandlot that you remember? Speaker 6 (11:15) Oh, I liked, there was a scene that was cut out of the movie where Mike Vitar and me are walking, like he, we just became friends and we're going into, we're inside Vincent's drugstore to get a baseball. And Dave McEvans, they didn't put it in the movie. He's like, just talk about whatever you want to talk about. And I just talked to him about where I was from. And it was like Smalls' backstory. And Smalls lived in Hamilton, New Jersey before he moved out. So I was like, of course they cut it out of the movie. That was probably the most fun. Speaker 3 (11:42) Very cute. I Speaker 6 (11:43) gave Smalls a backstory. A Speaker 3 (11:45) nice little backstory. Speaker 2 (11:47) We had our whole backstory moment that one day on set. We did. Speaker 3 (11:50) Backstory was special on this show. It didn't really do anything. Speaker 2 (11:52) But yeah, we had like, you know. What does she do for a living? What do I do for a living? Speaker 6 (11:57) That actually helps. I love doing that. We decided she was a breadwinner. Speaker 2 (12:02) Yeah. Speaker 3 (12:03) Because Speaker 2 (12:03) I'm out there just coaching Little League. Listen, Speaker 3 (12:07) I don't know what you do for a living. I'm not getting Speaker 2 (12:09) paid. But Speaker 3 (12:12) you do it in a back room somewhere at Speaker 2 (12:13) home. Oh, yeah. Wasn't I like a writer? Yeah, you were a jingle. Children's Speaker 3 (12:16) novelist. Speaker 2 (12:16) I Speaker 3 (12:16) think children's novelist, right. And Speaker 2 (12:18) illustrator. Speaker 3 (12:19) Yes, exactly. And illustrator. I had the feeling. Speaker 3 (12:24) I had the feeling being on set that there was, everyone could feel that there was like an electricity to having you all on set together. Was there a moment or a scene where maybe you felt emotional? Speaker 1 (12:42) Yeah. No. Speaker 3 (12:43) Not you, Mr. Softy over here. Speaker 1 (12:47) I think Speaker 6 (12:48) it's starting. Speaker 2 (12:49) It's Speaker 6 (12:50) right there. I'm just tired. It's early. Speaker 2 (12:52) It's early. Speaker 6 (12:53) Yeah. Yeah, it was. I guess we were all on the pitcher's mound. And I was like, I looked over and we were all standing there together. And I was like, this is crazy, man. After 30-something years, it's like, never thought we'd, you know. When we were making salmon, I never thought 30-something years later we'd be, you know. all together hanging out again, you know? So it's surreal. It's really cool. Speaker 3 (13:15) Yeah, it is so interesting that you, whenever you're on a project, you truly have no idea whether it's going to connect with people or not. And you leave most jobs thinking, probably never see these people again. And like, we always joke on Podmeets World that it... no matter what, it will be the first, like I already know what the first sentence of my obituary is going to be. Like these people's names will be just on my tombstone, you know? So it is pretty crazy. But Speaker 2 (13:44) you didn't Speaker 3 (13:44) know Speaker 2 (13:44) when you did the pilot. Speaker 3 (13:45) I didn't even do the pilot. So I definitely didn't Speaker 2 (13:48) know. Speaker 3 (13:48) I Speaker 2 (13:48) was Speaker 3 (13:49) a late addition. So Speaker 2 (13:50) was I. Speaker 3 (13:51) Yeah. Well, Speaker 2 (13:52) that's right. Late additions for the win. I wasn't the latest, but it's a really good point. What was your point? Speaker 3 (13:59) No, I was Speaker 2 (13:59) just saying. Because Speaker 3 (13:59) I wanted to say something. Yeah, he was talking about the feeling like 33 years later, here we all are standing on this pitcher's mound together. Yeah, and people Speaker 2 (14:05) ask us on Sandlot, like, did you know it was going to be like that? And I'm like, how could you know? Yeah. Like, you think that it's good and people seem happy. Like, usually you can tell when people are lying. Yeah. Where they're like, yeah, it's good. Yeah. And I've been on a few of those where I'm like, this is going to bomb. But so we didn't have that feeling on Sandlot, but we definitely had no idea it was going to be generational and like. Three generations come up to us and say, you've been in our living room for 33 years. Yeah, it's crazy. That's when you start crying with them. You're like, I'm sorry and thank you. I know. Yeah, Speaker 6 (14:34) you're right. I think I realized it was when the, probably 20 years, 20 years after the movie came out. I was walking through the mall in New Jersey with my, I had my son in a stroller. And I see this dude walking past me. And he had the Legends Never Die shirt with, you know, all on it. And I was like, that was the first time I saw a t-shirt. And I was like, I was like, that's me. That's me. And he's like, whatever, bro. And he just kept walking, you know, he didn't care. But that's when I realized I was like, this is like a thing now. People are like wearing like t-shirts with it. Like that's when it dawned on me that it was like, it seemed like as years went on, it picked up more steam. 20th Speaker 2 (15:09) anniversary, I think is what started it. Speaker 6 (15:10) Yeah. So Speaker 3 (15:11) that 20th anniversary. So how old is your son now? Speaker 6 (15:14) Oh my God. He's 26. Then I have a 16 year old and a 13 year old daughter. Speaker 3 (15:20) Okay. Do your kids play sports? Speaker 6 (15:23) Yeah. Well, my oldest used to. Speaker 3 (15:25) Okay. Were you a coach of any type? Did you? I Speaker 6 (15:29) wasn't. I didn't do the coach thing. I didn't do the coach thing. Yeah. Speaker 3 (15:32) So you just, you held back. You seem like you have a real healthy relationship with children's sports. I'm getting that vibe. Picking up on a healthy vibe over here. If you had to tell the listeners one reason why they should check out Dugout Dads, what would you say? Like, was there a moment for you where you went, man, I think we're really on to something here? Speaker 6 (15:53) Well, I thought, yeah. I mean, I think it's the one scene with Vic and Shane getting into the fight. Speaker 2 (16:03) Oh, yeah, where they Speaker 6 (16:03) slap Speaker 2 (16:04) each other? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Spoiler! Speaker 6 (16:06) No, with the guy at the game, remember? Oh, Speaker 3 (16:11) the guy in the stands. Yeah, Speaker 6 (16:13) yeah. That's Speaker 3 (16:14) when Speaker 6 (16:14) I was like, I remember reading it, and I was like, this is going to be hysterical. I was like, it's just funny. You know what I mean? It's got a lot of fun stuff in it. If you want to laugh, watch it. Speaker 3 (16:26) Great. Where can people find you? What would you like to promote? Do you have a charity? I mean, Grant really set the bar high with a charity. He Speaker 2 (16:34) has Speaker 3 (16:34) a charity Speaker 2 (16:34) for all of us. I know. Playforever.org. But where can Speaker 3 (16:37) people find you? Speaker 2 (16:39) Not on social media. Speaker 3 (16:41) Not there. Speaker 6 (16:42) Give us your Speaker 2 (16:43) address. Speaker 6 (16:43) Drop a pin. You can find me in Dugout Dads when it drops. Or in a Speaker 2 (16:49) hurricane in South Carolina. Or in a hurricane in Speaker 6 (16:51) South Carolina. The humidity. I feel like you have a Speaker 2 (16:53) hurricane every time I call you. It's Speaker 6 (16:55) really crazy. Remember the one time you called me and I'm like, I'm Speaker 2 (16:58) in Speaker 6 (16:58) the middle of a hurricane. Speaker 2 (17:00) That's nice Speaker 3 (17:01) that he answered the phone, though. He always answers Speaker 2 (17:02) for me. Speaker 3 (17:03) That's sweet. I do. He Speaker 2 (17:04) does. I do. And it's because if he doesn't, I call his wife. That's Speaker 6 (17:08) true. He knows where to find me. I can't escape. Janelle Speaker 2 (17:10) is actually the way to Tom. Speaker 6 (17:12) That's right. If you need to get me. Yeah, if you Speaker 2 (17:13) want to. fine Tom Gehry. That's what I know. Speaker 6 (17:15) That's what I know. You really need me is when you call me called you now. Speaker 3 (17:20) And I mean, if you're not answering, I would be worried because you have answered in the middle of a hurricane. So I'm like, right. The only way he's not answering is he's boarding up with he's boarding up Speaker 2 (17:28) windows. Well, Speaker 3 (17:30) Tom, thank you so much for being here with us. This was really fun. Speaker 6 (17:35) Really cool. It's good to see you. Enjoy Speaker 3 (17:38) your water from your favorite mug. Thank Speaker 6 (17:41) you so much. Speaker 8 (17:46) When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive for nine months. I survived, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are The Survivor Files. I just remember this low, taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. They're stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If Speaker 4 (18:46) your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, then that is a Trojan horse. Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinheiro and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaker 1 (20:46) Hey, this is Hayes Davenport and Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week we talk to someone in show business, aka the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Speaker 4 (21:10) Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on its head? How about we flip the script? Speaker 6 (21:17) What if the surprise woman, who actually you think is the straight man, is actually the one who's acting weird? Adam Scott. This entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. Speaker 1 (21:34) I would never expect. Let go of that. I have. I would never set. expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept. Danny McBride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you. I was like, is that weed? Nope. It's fragile masculinity. Ben Stiller, no. Because a lot of times, out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is. You know what I mean? Like, they're like, oh, what's Speaker 2 (22:08) this? Speaker 1 (22:09) Everyone's so dumb except for you. And Speaker 6 (22:11) fake. Speaker 1 (22:12) Right, fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaker 3 (22:37) What do I need to do to make you feel more like a host of this show? No, Speaker 2 (22:39) I Speaker 3 (22:39) love Speaker 2 (22:40) every minute of this. It's pressure free. You just get Speaker 3 (22:46) to be comedic relief? Yeah. Who's Conan O Speaker 5 (22:50) 'Brien's sidekick? Speaker 3 (22:51) Oh, yeah. Speaker 5 (22:52) Andy Ricker. You're the Andy Ricker of the Speaker 2 (22:55) show. Speaker 3 (22:55) We see where you're going with that. Speaker 2 (22:57) Your D is the, we gave you the D cup for daddy. Daddy. We should introduce Speaker 3 (23:02) daddy over here. Speaker 2 (23:04) Who's this big? I'm the other co-host of the show. Speaker 3 (23:07) Welcome to the podcast, Marty York. Hello. Hey, what's Speaker 5 (23:10) up? Speaker 3 (23:11) doing? Speaker 5 (23:11) I'm incredible. And it's so good to see old faces. Yes. Speaker 3 (23:15) We go way back. Yes. Two gentlemen who were on Boy Meets World. It's Speaker 5 (23:21) true. Are we the only ones? No, I think Chauncey too. Three of the other guys were on it. Chauncey was, Brandon was. Yeah, Speaker 3 (23:27) maybe Brandon too. Grant was. Wow. Speaker 5 (23:29) Yeah. Speaker 3 (23:30) It's, listen, we knew what we, we knew the magic. You're the only one who Speaker 5 (23:33) recurred. I had to recur. Yeah, Speaker 3 (23:35) that's true. I was supposed to be Speaker 5 (23:37) a regular, but I was in the death chair. Speaker 3 (23:38) You know, it's so funny. I was going to say on Boy Meets World, before it was kind of just, okay, Corey and Sean are just going to be the core friendship of the show. They actually really wanted it to be for Corey to have two best friends. And they kept bringing in a rotating cast of guest stars to see who was going to connect. So you could have Speaker 5 (24:00) been the second bud. Speaker 3 (24:01) He could have been the permanent second bud. Speaker 5 (24:03) Well, Speaker 3 (24:03) I originally Speaker 5 (24:03) had a recurring to move on to a regular, and she was supposed to be a day player on the show. Yeah. And she killed it. And, I mean, I think I killed it, but I obviously. Oh, there wasn't Speaker 2 (24:13) even supposed to be a Topanga. Speaker 3 (24:15) No. Speaker 2 (24:15) Wow. Yeah. You know what I just realized? You guys kind of started, start, there Speaker 3 (24:20) it is Speaker 2 (24:20) again. Speaker 3 (24:20) You guys kind Speaker 2 (24:21) of started the Harry Potter trend. Speaker 3 (24:23) What's the Harry Potter joint? Speaker 2 (24:25) Like it's the two boy with the girl best friend. Oh, you're right. She got that from Boy Meets World. You came out before she wrote Harry Potter. Yeah, Speaker 3 (24:34) that's a fact. Speaker 2 (24:35) Just saying. Speaker 3 (24:36) You're right. Yeah, I think you might be right there. But so the guest star, whoever came in, we then, the chair they would sit in, there was always the same chair. And then when someone would get let go, we'd say, oh, they sat in the death chair. And there was really a day where in my first week, someone, like the director suggested that I sit in that chair and both Ryder and Ben looked at me and were like, don't do it. Do not sit in that chair. And I was like, no, I'm not going to sit there. I have to find another place to sit. And this was in Speaker 2 (25:02) the classroom? Speaker 5 (25:03) No, it was in the Speaker 3 (25:04) cafeteria. Speaker 5 (25:05) I didn't know till the show, till we did the Pod Meets World show, because I had a scene with Bill Daniels and I screwed up on the lines. And I'd always thought that that was the reason that I ended the show on three episodes. Speaker 2 (25:18) Yeah, he thought that was the moment. But Speaker 3 (25:20) it's because you sat in the Speaker 2 (25:20) death chair. Now, I didn't get asked back, and I didn't sit in the death chair. No, Speaker 3 (25:25) so I think you made it clear you didn't want to be there. Speaker 2 (25:29) I wanted to be there. I just wanted more. You just wanted more. Speaker 3 (25:32) Yeah, you wanted more. Well, that idea that something can happen, and for 30 years you think one thing until you have a conversation with somebody and then go, oh, I thought wrong about that. All along. Was there a moment ever for you guys on set of the Sandlot that may be a misunderstanding? Yeah, Speaker 2 (25:49) you have to Speaker 3 (25:49) clarify now because we've Speaker 2 (25:50) done two things together. Speaker 3 (25:51) I know. On the set of the Sandlot where maybe as kids something happened, a misunderstanding, and then years later, all these years later of reuniting at conventions and at baseball games that you then realized like, oh, that was a misunderstanding. Now it's been cleared up. Speaker 2 (26:08) Interesting. I don't remember anything from set. Speaker 2 (26:12) I think the craziest part, at least, and you can attest to this, was the casting process. Yeah. Because, and I don't know that there were misunderstandings. I think we probably went, oh, yeah, years later, that's what happened. Kind of like the death chair. But they originally cast younger kids in the role. Okay. So it was like seven and eight-year-olds. Yeah. Speaker 5 (26:35) And Speaker 2 (26:35) then the director was like, I can't really have them. saying half the stuff we said and it's not playing, it's playing like a little like, ugh. Right, yeah. They're too young to say that stuff. And then they recast us all but then you know more about the actual, because I was the second to last guy cast but it was like a shit show. Speaker 5 (26:53) Yeah. The casting. You were what? I was Bertram originally. I was a different character. Wow. And there was the whole squints monologue in the treehouse was different and I had more of a monologue and then, you know, I read about the beast. living under the lean to and all that. And then I don't know what happened. I think there was another kid cast as Yeah, yeah. And that kid like broke his arm or something. And then they said, We need you, we need to bring you in for Yeah, instead of Bertram. And you need to have a ton of energy. And so my mom took me to liquor store got me at Hershey's Kiss Bar, one of the job. I'm glad that's Speaker 3 (27:28) where Speaker 5 (27:28) I was going. Yeah. Here's some vodka. No. So yeah, she got me to eat the whole Hershey's bar. I ate it, got the sugar buzz and