Why the Jobs Report Keeps Changing | The Professor Is In

Platypus Economics with Justin Wolfers

The episode dissects the recent September jobs report and downward revisions to July and August data, explaining why statistical corrections reflect improved accuracy rather than government

Key takeaways

• Downward revisions to July/August jobs data occur because initial estimates rely on incomplete business surveys, making later, fuller samples statistically superior.
• Healthcare now accounts for nearly double its 1990s share of total U.S. jobs, driven by an aging population and increased societal wealth.

Main topics

• Jobs report revisions
• Healthcare employment trends

Notable quotes

A statistical agency that revises its data is much better than one that doesn't.

Conclusion

Listeners gain a grounded understanding of why economic data fluctuate

Transcript preview

Speaker 1 (0:00) It is absolutely true that my relationship with the surfboard is such that it would be much more likely to hit me in the rib than for me to be standing on it. Speaker 2 (0:14) The jobs report is out for September. This is the last jobs report before the midterm elections. And Justin, last week you made a video talking about how we should think about these jobs numbers. The headlines were, we have created jobs, but not many. Only a few sectors are growing. And the jobs reports from the past few months before this one have actually been revised down. So it shows a different labor market than we thought we were looking at, one that is slightly weaker. I'm going to bring you some follow-up questions from our audience today. I'm Augusta, and I'm a producer here at Platypus Economics. Speaker 1 (0:46) I'm Justin Wolfers. I'm a professor of economics. That's why we call this The Professor Is In. But what I want you to think about it is, this is when Augusta brings me your questions, just like it's office hours. Augusta, coming into my office. Speaker 2 (1:02) Okay, so let's just dive right in. The July and the August numbers were revised down from previous estimations. Can you talk a little bit about why that was and what that means? Because... From the perspective of a non-expert, it's really confusing that the jobs report is never quite accurate and sometimes it's totally different months later. What are we really looking at here? Speaker 1 (1:22) Yeah. So first, let's go to the really big lesson, which is actually nothing's accurate. Nothing in the world is accurate. I might think that I'm 5'11.5", but it's probably the case that I'm 5'11.487321". Measuring anything always comes with error. general proposition, anything we measure about the economy comes with error. We can either get things perfect by lining up 340 million Americans and talking to each and every one of them, or we can talk to a subsample, in which case we're doing extrapolation, and the question is, did we talk to the right set of them to be fully representative? So everything comes with error. And in fact, you might learn that in like a high school science class, but it's doubly, triply, quadruply true with economics. Measuring someone's height, just not that hard compared to thinking about an economy of the size, scale, and complexity of the United States with employers maybe who are hiding in the shadows to avoid taxes or workers who are hiding to avoid taxes or immigration authorities and so on. It's an immensely difficult task. Okay. Having said that, the answer to your question is pretty simple. The way we collect the jobs numbers, the main survey, It's called the Establishment Survey, which is essentially the government reaches out to a pretty big sample of businesses. And it says how many people were on your payroll in a specific week. And they make sure actually to talk to a big chunk of the really big businesses, which actually means this represents a whole lot of the U.S. workforce. You can think of it as if they send them a letter and they wait for a letter to come back. Of course, this is the 21st century. So in the 80s, they sent them a fax and a fax came back. And today we can wire up the systems to talk to each other a little bit better. But sometimes what happens is the government calls and asks for a number and you think to yourself, I'm busy. That's a pretty reasonable thing to be. Speaker 1 (3:26) And so you say, I'll get to that next week. And if you're at all like me, you actually get to it six weeks later. So what that means is the set of businesses that respond with a true count is just whoever happens to respond. And they do adjust for the fact that some people don't respond. But the guests, they have to guess what the folks who don't respond would have responded if they had responded. And then guess what? A new letter arrived saying, this is how many people were on my firm's payrolls. And so that's what a revision is. We move from having an incomplete sample to a somewhat more complete sample, and then a month later, an even more complete sample. Speaker 1 (4:05) So first thing, there are people who try to undermine the public's faith in government statistics. They do that, I think, because they want to undermine yours and my faith in the idea that there is a truth. I'm deeply dismayed by that. But actually, a statistical agency that revises its data is much better than one that doesn't. Just like a person who admits their mistakes is much better than one who doesn't. You might be tempted to say, well, the first print was... high and the second print was low so maybe the truth is in between. That's not right. The first print was based on a small sample. The second print includes all those people and also includes others. So therefore, there's no extra information in the initial number than in the revised number. The revised number is always and everywhere a better guide to what's going on. So far from being a weakness of our statistical authorities, it's a strength that they revise. And one of the things we learned this month was that the folks who sent back their forms early last month were the folks who'd done a lot of hiring. When a bunch more forms came in, we found there was a bunch of folks who hadn't done much hiring. And so in fact, last month and the month before were much weaker than we had thought at the time. We react a lot to these revisions partly because this is one of the most accurate surveys of what's going on in the economy. And so one way to think about this is you can think about, and this is what I do at least, when the jobs numbers come out, you can think about there being three independent sources of information. There's the household survey, which we haven't talked about. Speaker 1 (5:48) There's this month's payroll survey. Speaker 1 (5:52) then there's new responses to previous