Ep. 193 – Sub Ek: Our Own True Nature

Pilgrim Heart with Krishna Das - Be Here Now Network

Krishna Das explores themes of unity, devotion, and self-inquiry in this episode, reflecting on personal experiences, spiritual practices, and the nature of divine oneness across traditions. He shares a vivid dream of Maharaji, discusses the importance of authenticity in practice, and emphasizes compassion and self-kindness in relationships. The conversation also touches on free will, the role of

Key takeaways

• All paths lead to the same truth
• Self-kindness is essential for kindness to others
• Dreams can reveal deeper spiritual truths

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Oh, um, Anumate, oh, um, and um, I'm a, and um a, I'm a, mah, maham, maham, mamam, Ah, oh, oh, I'm a no, ah, oh, man no matte. Oh, um, on a hum, on a mahm, uhmahate, oh, maham mahmahate, ohmamamamatee, Oh, um, um, um, an um, a tah. Ah Ahm. Oh, um, on the numm, uhmahh. Namahah mahahah. Ahmahah. Oh, umahah. Oh, umah, umah, umahah, umhahmahh, nahmahhahmahh, nahmahh, nahmahh, nahmahh, nahmahmahah. Horma, Anamatee. Oh, um, Anamate. Namatte. Namat. Namam. Namam. Namam. Namam. I'm a Christian and for some reason I'm drawn to and feel Ram as the divine father and see no contradiction. Is it fine if I do not have any concept of Ram but I chant his name always? all one. Many names, many forms, many paths, all one. There's only one thing going on here. Different cultures call it by different names. They conceive of it differently, different conceptuality in the mind, but underneath the thoughts, it's all the same. The one living being, truth, reality, real love, lives in all of our hearts. And it's beyond name and form, but we can call it whatever we want to call it. Don't get stuck in this stuff. Don't get stuck in thinking there's only, all these ways are different. They may look different to us because we see differences everywhere, but they're not different. same thing that the yogis in India realize, that the Zen Buddhist realize, that the Sufis realize, that the Muslims realize, that the true, the real Christians realize. They don't get stuck in the forms, in the difference of the forms, is just names. And then they're all the names of the same thing, which is our own true nature. So don't worry about that stuff. Follow your heart. and be happy, you know, as happy. Do I have. Do I have any recommendation for an instrument store in Delhi? Do I have any recommendation for an instrument start in Delhi? Are you in Delhi? Oh, I don't know. You know, Bina music, my harmonians from Bina, but it's very old. There's also a place Ricky Ram on Chani-Chok. I don't think Ricky Ram's in Chani Chalk. That's Bina music. Ricky Ram's in somewhere near Kanao's circus. Yeah. You might find something good enough to play there. They're not the best quality, but there is certainly good to play there. They're not the best quality, but they're certainly good to play. make sure they tune them for you really well if you're in Delhi if you're not if you're in the West then I would I would get in touch with David Estes and his Ragmala harmoniums are very good very very good Okay Do I ever rearrange my pougea wall over here? I'm too lazy once it goes up? I'm just kind of there forever while I add a couple of things and put some new pictures up or take some old ones down and replace them but you know. Am I adhering to some rule? God forbid. Do I plan on recording? Humb Hahnumate? Yes I do and that's like I told you before that melody, that melody for that mantra is from Boris my friend. and I'm certainly going to record it as soon as I can and also the loca sumesta prayer that I've been singing and will usually end end with. Can I record a long version of J. Bhagavan? I don't know. Maybe. Can I record a long version of J. Bhagavan? I don't know. Maybe. Can you? elaborate in retrospect on the dream you once had with Maharaji. Let's see if I can remember the dream. We were in a house somewhere together. And in India, I believe. And in India, I believe. or he, I don't know if he'd like to run away, but he ran away. And people were always trying to keep him, you know, keep him there, like they would lock the doors and he would just be outside and he would, the locked doors never bothered him. So, they had put us in a room, I think, upstairs in the house. And so he said, he started to run down the hallway and they were chasing us. at the end of the hall there was a window and he jumped up on the ledge of the window. It was in the second floor of the house. He jumped up on the second floor of the window. Oh yeah, no I'm remembering why. And he jumped down and he landed on his feet and he looked up at me like, okay, and what are you going to do? So I got up on the window ledge and I jumped down and in fact I did a somersault and landed on my feet and we ran off together into the woods laughing and it great feeling. Later in the dream, he was giving Darshan in the jungle I think and there was a clearing and there were many people sitting around him. And he would point to a place on the ground, he would point. And so when somebody there would like dig where he point and they would point to a place on the ground, he would point. And so somebody there would like dig where he point and they would find jewels. real jewels, you know, like rubies, emeralds, things like that. And he'd point like this and everybody would go and they would find all the stuff, you know, over. And then he points over to where I'm sitting and I looked at, I reached into the ground and I pulled out a huge diamond like this big, a huge diamond. And he kind of looked at me again like, yeah, now what are