Ananthika Sanilkumar on Rajinikanth, Law, Dance, Acting & More! | EP #148

Permit Room

In this episode of Permit Room, actress Ananthika Sanilkumar shares her personal journey from a disciplined childhood student to an expressi

Key takeaways

• Ananthika Sanilkumar transitioned from being a top student in early grades to a more rebellious 'rowdy' phase in middle school.
• Her passion for Kuchipudi dance was ignited by witnessing a graceful temple performance as a child.

Main topics

• Childhood memories and schooling
• Kuchipudi dance training

Notable quotes

I am very happy with this step.

Conclusion

The episode provides an intimate look at how diverse artistic and acad

Transcript preview

Speaker 1 (0:25) Namaste and welcome to the season 2 of Permit Room. Today we have a very good performer. I mean, Anantika, who has performed very intense roles. Hi, Anantika. How are you? Speaker 2 (0:37) I'm good. How are you? Speaker 1 (0:38) All good. I'm in a vibe now because... I'll tell you. I think you'll understand it later when you talk off-camera. I saw a movie called Bethlehem Kudumba Unit. Oh, Speaker 2 (0:51) really? Speaker 1 (0:52) I Speaker 2 (0:53) haven't seen it yet. Speaker 1 (0:54) Yeah, of course. I was Speaker 2 (0:55) busy Speaker 1 (0:55) with Speaker 2 (0:56) promotions. Speaker 1 (0:56) I would have definitely seen it. But you definitely have to watch it. I'm doing propaganda to everyone. I want everyone to watch it. It's almost the best film of the year for me. That range. Speaker 2 (1:09) My family watched it. Speaker 1 (1:11) I Speaker 2 (1:12) want to watch it too. But I didn't get the time. I haven't seen it till now. But I'll watch it. Speaker 1 (1:17) Even in the theater you went to... Speaker 1 (1:20) People, maximum Malayalam people came. I went and sat there. I got a very left out feeling. They will understand directly. I have Speaker 2 (1:28) to understand by seeing Speaker 1 (1:28) the subtitles. But the way they enjoyed the film. I Speaker 2 (1:34) felt like this Speaker 1 (1:34) is the kind of movie Speaker 2 (1:35) I Speaker 1 (1:35) should enjoy. So, normally when you see a film in a theatre, are you a kind of a person who watches the film with the vibe that I should enjoy watching it? Yes, yes. If I watch a Speaker 2 (1:50) movie now, it will be in that vibe. Speaker 1 (1:53) Even Speaker 2 (1:53) if I am very dull now, I will be able to watch the movie. That mood has shifted. Speaker 1 (1:59) Okay. Speaker 2 (2:00) Yeah. Speaker 1 (2:01) So normally are you a vid movie watcher? Do you watch movies? Speaker 2 (2:04) I don't watch movies in the beginning. Now I started watching. Slowly. Speaker 1 (2:09) So you didn't watch movies in the beginning? Speaker 2 (2:11) I didn't Speaker 1 (2:12) get Speaker 2 (2:12) time to watch movies in the beginning. Because of all Speaker 1 (2:14) the Speaker 2 (2:14) classes, Speaker 1 (2:15) I Speaker 2 (2:16) had to watch movies in the beginning. Now I watch movies. I don't have to watch movies. Now I watch movies little by little. Speaker 1 (2:25) So normally you watch very few movies. When you are working in the movies, We don't have that idea then. Like a movie might have this much impact. I'm talking about the impact. When we watch a movie, it's okay. It's okay if the movie is good or bad. But if you're working for a film, the impact will be different. So did you observe the change in that impact before we started working? Speaker 2 (2:51) Before we started working, Still, how do we see that same movie? Speaker 1 (2:58) It's Speaker 2 (2:59) so big. We can see ourselves on a big Speaker 1 (3:05) screen. Speaker 2 (3:08) So, how do they call us? That used to be there from the first. Speaker 1 (3:14) But, Speaker 2 (3:15) that movie is seen in a different level. It's a different level. I don't know how to explain it. It's a very different level. So it's been like that only from the first. Speaker 2 (3:53) I am not good at class. I am like, how am I going to do this? But I have a vacation class. Because normally classes used to happen only on Saturday and Sunday. Speaker 1 (4:07) I Speaker 2 (4:07) study in school. Speaker 1 (4:09) This Speaker 2 (4:09) dance and all happens only on Saturday and Sunday. When I am on vacation, I have a full vacation class. Speaker 2 (4:29) I don't have that much interest in that. And it's not forcefully or anything. But Speaker 1 (4:37) it's Speaker 2 (4:38) okay only for me. So I didn't get that much time. So I didn't get that much time. I Speaker 1 (4:45) watch big movies like the one with Speaker 2 (4:45) Shrejani Kansaiyar. So, Speaker 1 (4:50) if you have Speaker 2 (4:51) so many Speaker 1 (4:51) friends coming to your Speaker 2 (4:53) place, Speaker 1 (4:53) you should definitely have a small FOMO. Would you have a FOMO where everyone goes to the Speaker 2 (4:59) same Speaker 1 (4:59) place? No, Speaker 2 (5:01) I don't have one. My sister has one. Speaker 1 (5:03) My Speaker 2 (5:03) sister says that everyone goes to the same place. But I didn't Speaker 1 (5:08) say Speaker 2 (5:08) that. Speaker 1 (5:09) Why? Speaker 2 (5:10) I don't know. Normally, the hill station... I don't like that Speaker 1 (5:15) type of Speaker 2 (5:17) thing. Speaker 1 (5:18) You're a beach person? Speaker 2 (5:20) Yeah, I am a beach person. Speaker 1 (5:21) You have to go there, right? I Speaker 2 (5:22) have to go 1-2 kilometers to Speaker 1 (5:25) the beach. So I'm Speaker 2 (5:26) not interested Speaker 1 (5:27) in that. I don't Speaker 2 (5:31) want to go that far and sit in the car for a long time. I feel bad. Speaker 1 (5:37) You'll come there and you'll have the same beach. But... When I was doing all this research, you are talented in everything. You have a martial arts, Kuchipudi, right? Yes, I have Kuchipudi. So, all this... You don't have interest in all this, so you easily get bored. No, Speaker 2 (6:02) no, no. I have interest. Since I was a kid, I knew about LKG. Like I used to be like little topper topper feelings only. Till third grade. So you were Speaker 1 (6:14) the only one or others too? No, everyone. I used Speaker 2 (6:18) to be like fully educated. If I tell my teachers to study this and that, I will study it myself. Till then. Speaker 1 (6:26) Just till then. After Speaker 2 (6:28) that, I was completely gone. Speaker 1 (6:30) Till when did you finish? Speaker 2 (6:32) Till third or fourth grade. After fourth grade, I was completely friends with my friends. Speaker 2 (6:39) After Speaker 1 (6:40) that, Speaker 2 (6:41) I was playing full time, and even in school, I was teaching TC. Oh Speaker 1 (6:46) my! Normally, I feel like... After seeing all this, there are some people in class, right? They ask, did you do your homework? The teacher doesn't ask, but we ask, Miss, did you do your homework? That Speaker 2 (6:59) vibe Speaker 1 (6:59) comes to me. So, I'm correct till 3rd or 4th class. Yeah, Speaker 2 (7:04) that's right. They said I should study for this and that. I was so Speaker 1 (7:11) angry. I was Speaker 2 (7:13) angry too. But I was angry too. I was angry too. I was like, why are you so mad? That's how we talk. Speaker 1 (7:25) We can't reach the range of the TC. Speaker 2 (7:29) Why the Speaker 1 (7:31) sudden shift? Speaker 2 (7:35) Till then, I didn't talk like that normally. Very much silent, Speaker 1 (7:38) sitting, Speaker 2 (7:39) normal. The students behave like that. Even my mother didn't want me to study. She was strict only. Speaker 1 (7:50) After Speaker 2 (7:50) that, my mother also told me that I should study more. My class teacher also told me that I should talk to everyone, my friends. Everyone should talk together and play the game. I said, okay. Speaker 2 (8:10) Okay, so now you are Speaker 1 (8:11) rowdies. Speaker 2 (8:14) So that's it. So from there it started. It was Speaker 1 (8:17) like Speaker 2 (8:17) boys and girls, it was like talking to boys and girls. Yeah, Speaker 1 (8:25) it was a punishment. Now I am saying that it was a good punishment. Speaker 1 (8:32) When I was a kid, I used to sit next to a girl and say, punishment. Exactly. Speaker 2 (8:37) When a Speaker 1 (8:38) boy sits between Speaker 2 (8:38) two girls, I used to be so shy. Even girls are like this. We Speaker 1 (8:47) used Speaker 2 (8:49) to talk in school and in the bathroom. Speaker 2 (8:52) Teachers also used Speaker 1 (8:53) to say, Speaker 2 (8:53) a girl is talking fine. They used to say all this. So, Speaker 1 (8:57) did they really charge you for being fine? Yes, Speaker 2 (8:59) they used to say fine, you shouldn't talk like that. It was like this also. Speaker 2 (9:05) But sometimes we feel like we can do it, but we don't. Exactly. Speaker 1 (9:09) But I couldn't talk to girls. That's another thing. Please continue. Speaker 2 (9:16) So that's Speaker 1 (9:17) how Speaker 2 (9:17) it ended. The journey shifted. I have the same school journey as well. So that's why I'm saying this. But when I was in LKH, my mom told me once, I said, if I am doing well in studies, I will go learn something new also. So, I joined Speaker 1 (9:42) dance. Speaker 2 (9:44) I joined dance first. Also, I like... When I went to temple, I saw a program. There, it was very normal. They watch a lot of programs. Speaker 1 (9:56) So, Speaker 2 (9:57) I saw. That performance was my first choice. How to watch dance. Speaker 2 (10:02) So one girl was dancing on stage. I was watching her dancing. She was wearing some full... Sorry. White, gold, with full ornaments. It's there, right? Speaker 1 (10:18) She Speaker 2 (10:19) was like a goddess in my eyes. And also she was dancing gracefully. It was so beautiful. Speaker 2 (10:31) Oh, we should do it too. I mean, we are seeing it at a level. So I was like, oh, I have to learn. Because tomorrow also we also should go and dance. Speaker 1 (10:41) Then Speaker 2 (10:42) it started from there. When I see someone like that, I have this inside me. I want to learn this too. I still have Speaker 1 (10:54) that Speaker 2 (10:54) problem. It's Speaker 1 (10:55) not a Speaker 2 (10:55) problem, but I'm Speaker 1 (10:57) not getting the Speaker 2 (10:57) time. If Speaker 1 (10:58) I Speaker 2 (10:58) watch a movie, if I watch a boxing movie, I have to join Speaker 1 (11:05) it fast in Speaker 2 (11:05) a few days. Speaker 1 (11:08) If Speaker 2 (11:09) I join, I'll continue it. But I have that inside me, This is what happens. Speaker 1 (11:16) I have to learn this and that. So Speaker 2 (11:19) it's been like that. Since I was a child, I have been watching them. Even in dance classes... My senior sisters... Speaker 1 (11:29) When Speaker 2 (11:30) they dance, they are doing it gracefully. So I have to do it like that. I like it a lot. When I listen to songs, I enjoy it. Then I went to the village and my parents told me I wanted to learn martial arts. I wanted to learn it's important. I thought if someone gives me this, I should do it. Speaker 1 (12:00) I was like, Speaker 2 (12:04) okay, I'll learn. But I also like colour. Still, if it's colour, I have to travel Speaker 1 (12:09) far. I Speaker 2 (12:10) have Speaker 1 (12:10) to Speaker 2 (12:10) travel. Where will I go? It's hard again. So, I started doing karate slowly. Speaker 2 (12:19) When I was in 8th grade, I started Speaker 1 (12:22) travelling Speaker 2 (12:26) in a bus from 5th grade. I Speaker 1 (12:32) was Speaker 2 (12:33) going to school. So, I started travelling in a bus. Speaker 1 (12:49) My mom is a dance teacher. So I see people, parents, who cry when they bring their kids. They ask me why I brought them here. They say it's a hobby. They don't know what to do. They cry and hit their heads. Speaker 1 (13:15) I was more than that. I was more like, what is this? I was like, what is this? I was like, what is this? I was like, what is this? I was like, what is this? I was like, what is this? I was like, what is this? I was like, Speaker 2 (13:26) what is this? Speaker 1 (13:27) I Speaker 2 (13:27) was Speaker 1 (13:27) like, Speaker 2 (13:27) what Speaker 1 (13:27) is Speaker 2 (13:27) this? I was like, what is this? I was like, what is this? Speaker 1 (13:30) I was like, what is this? I was like, what is this? I was like, what is this? I was like, what is this? I was like, what is this? I was like, what is this? I was like, what is Speaker 2 (13:30) this? Speaker 1 (13:30) I was like, what is this? I was like, what is this? I was like, what Speaker 2 (13:30) is Speaker 1 (13:30) this? I was like, what Speaker 2 (13:30) is this? I was Speaker 1 (13:31) like, what is this? I Speaker 2 (13:32) was Speaker 1 (13:32) like, what Speaker 2 (13:32) is this? I Speaker 1 (13:32) was like, Speaker 2 (13:32) what is this? I was like, what is this? I was like, what is this? Speaker 1 (13:42) I Speaker 2 (13:42) I don't Speaker 1 (13:43) know why Speaker 2 (13:43) they Speaker 1 (13:43) can't do it in such Speaker 2 (13:43) a forceful way. But still, it's happening. Still now. Speaker 1 (13:47) They don't know anything. They say, Speaker 2 (13:49) we Speaker 1 (13:49) are doing it Speaker 2 (13:50) because we know it. Speaker 1 (13:50) We have to see how we can make it work. But when I see a performance, the first instinct is, they are doing it so well that we don't know how to do it. We feel that we can reach that range. For example, if I see something acting-wise, now, oh my God! I was like, how are they doing this? We don't even want to try. We don't want to touch it. We are afraid that we might ruin it. But when you said, I felt like a dancer. Weren't you feared that you might fail? Can I do it right? Speaker 2 (14:32) Like you said, there is Speaker 1 (14:35) an Speaker 2 (14:35) initial stage. When we go and study in the initial stage, we start from zero. So, we get bored normally. There is a question mark, when will we start? When will we Speaker 1 (14:52) start? Speaker 2 (14:53) When can I dance? All this. Speaker 2 (14:57) But I would have liked to have one too. I mean, there would be a thing like this inside me, that I would dance all the time. I think when I was very young, before my erring-head-room and everything, I would have been like this too. But I was a little more like that for karate classes. Speaker 1 (15:14) I Speaker 2 (15:15) would Speaker 1 (15:15) go Speaker 2 (15:15) here, I would go Speaker 1 (15:16) there, Speaker 2 (15:16) I would go there. I would have had a laziness like that. Speaker 2 (15:22) But when it comes to dance, if we do a program once, it's the same. If we do it again, we won't stop that feeling. We will understand. Speaker 2 (15:37) Oh, that process... It's like a movie, we're doing it now. But there's a feeling before it's released. When we're watching it, we'll see that difference. We did this much, right? Because of all these things, we can Speaker 1 (15:53) do Speaker 2 (15:53) it now because Speaker 1 (15:53) of this process. Speaker 2 (15:54) So, in the same dance too, after performance... Then I started doing programs. I used to do a lot of programs since I was a kid. Speaker 2 (16:07) When we do something small, I feel like I am doing something. If Speaker 1 (16:15) I had Speaker 2 (16:15) done it before, I would have done it like this. Speaker 1 (16:18) But Speaker 2 (16:19) now, I feel like I have that positive energy. I am very happy with this step. Speaker 2 (16:31) But if I play in a program, it's a whole different level. I'll do Kathakali. Even if it's Kathakali, I'll do Vazhibhadu. Vazhibhadu is like... How do I say it? We do puja in Speaker 1 (16:47) temples. I'll Speaker 2 (16:48) do Kathakali Vazhibhadu. Speaker 1 (16:50) I'll Speaker 2 (16:51) play Speaker 1 (16:51) that Speaker 2 (16:51) too. We play in the name of others. Speaker 2 (16:56) So even while playing, even if it's just one story, we have a character, same like this. Say we have a character, or we have another character, we have to converse with Speaker 1 (17:08) them, Speaker 2 (17:08) or we have to play two roles. This is all very good, you can experience a lot. Speaker 1 (17:16) So Speaker 2 (17:17) while experiencing all this, Speaker 2 (17:20) After this performance, even when we were doing this for the audience, we have that, we did something. I still remember the same feelings. I still remember every performance, even in the last one, I was like, you see this Speaker 1 (17:45) much, Speaker 2 (17:45) right? I saw this much in that program. So I need to thank everybody. I can still remember every performance. I can still see how they look, the lights, when we wear makeup and we are in character, it is different from my eyes. Speaker 2 (18:05) Like all these feels are like I'm so grateful that I'm able to do all this. More than everything, just being grateful for every day. Okay, I'm doing it at least. I'm able to do it also. And all this, where is it? All these art forms, I feel like there is no full stop. It will be just continuing like that. And I will also continue. That's my feeling. Even since I was a child, many people used to tell me this. This is not right, this is not right. Or people in my school too, when I was doing, I used to do performance. Even in school, they used to call me and all these things. Even then... Speaker 2 (18:50) Even my friends and students don't have any value on this. Speaker 1 (18:55) They say, Speaker 2 (18:56) you can Speaker 1 (18:56) only Speaker 2 (18:56) dance like this. We have seen this a lot. Even Speaker 1 (19:02) in Speaker 2 (19:02) movies, they say the same thing. They say, you can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You can only watch movies. You Every process is so beautiful and also very much difficult. And there is a journey for everything. There is a lot inside. There is a lot to say. Speaker 1 (19:31) But when someone takes it away, when we don't value what we do, do you get frustrated? For example, if I say that I am doing a podcast, they will take it away and say, we are just sitting and talking. They don't know what the process is and how it will be. So, I feel like, come on, do whatever I am doing. I would get angry inside. But I can't say it all because I don't Speaker 2 (19:57) understand what Speaker 1 (19:57) he is saying. I will leave it. I used to do it in the beginning. When you sit in front of a laptop in an IT company, your eyes will be seen. That's your problem. I used to say, my problem is not your problem. We used to fight in the beginning. But after that, there's no point in it. Yes, yes. Speaker 2 (20:12) I too used Speaker 1 (20:13) to do that Speaker 2 (20:13) in the beginning. I used to tell Speaker 1 (20:15) you, look Speaker 2 (20:15) at my performance. Look at it and tell me. I used to say, Speaker 1 (20:19) I Speaker 2 (20:19) used Speaker 1 (20:19) to tell you, look Speaker 2 (20:19) at Speaker 1 (20:19) my performance. Look at it and Speaker 2 (20:19) tell me. We have the confidence in our performance. Speaker 1 (20:25) But Speaker 2 (20:25) after this, At the end of the day, we'll be like, okay. We'll be like, Speaker 1 (20:33) okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, Speaker 2 (20:33) okay. Speaker 1 (20:33) We'll Speaker 2 (20:33) be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. We'll be like, okay. Speaker 1 (20:42) But when you said, we Speaker 2 (20:44) play a Speaker 1 (20:44) character while dancing, for example, we Speaker 2 (20:48) play a Speaker 1 (20:48) small Speaker 2 (20:48) play like Speaker 1 (20:48) Ramayana, Ram would play a character, Sita would play a character, you said dual characters. When you do that, I found it fascinating, I've also seen those performances, the way they switch, the expressions, there are very minute changes that we only know. That means, this character will do this mode, this character will do this mode, we know that. So which one do you enjoy? Playing a single character or a dual character in those performances? Dual Speaker 2 (21:13) character always. Single character is Speaker 1 (21:15) also Speaker 2 (21:15) good. But dual character is a lot to do. There is Speaker 1 (21:21) a Speaker 2 (21:21) sudden shift. That is a different thing. Like Krishna or Satyabhama. When Speaker 1 (21:27) there Speaker 2 (21:27) is Speaker 1 (21:28) a Speaker 2 (21:28) lot of Speaker 1 (21:28) this and Speaker 2 (21:28) that. We are doing Krishna but we are becoming female again. Speaker 1 (21:32) There Speaker 2 (21:33) is a shift. I just love playing dual roles. Speaker 1 (21:38) Super, super. And even when you were performing before, what is the maximum audience that you have performed for? Speaker 2 (21:48) I mean, I have done many programs. So, that's... Have Speaker 1 (21:51) you seen more than that? A thousand? A thousand people? I don't know about a Speaker 2 (21:58) thousand. I don't have that much. Speaker 1 (22:01) Maybe Speaker 2 (22:02) a little more. Speaker 2 (22:04) I don't know. I mean, I did 200-250 programs like that. Speaker 1 (22:12) But I Speaker 2 (22:13) love to do... Speaker 1 (22:14) I don't know. Speaker 2 (22:16) No, no, no. Maybe once or twice. But it doesn't happen normally. Normally, maybe I even performed for like five audience. Six. I mean, there are only five or six people in my friend. Speaker 1 (22:27) But Speaker 2 (22:28) we have to do it. If that happens too. Speaker 2 (22:31) I mean, I do it a lot. I mean, I do it, and I come back. It's Speaker 1 (22:37) okay, you can flex a little. No, no, no. If you're performing 200 times, it's not Speaker 2 (22:43) like this every Speaker 1 (22:43) time. No, no. Speaker 2 (22:45) I have to do it here in Hyderabad. I mean, a little bit. A little bit. Speaker 1 (22:51) A Speaker 2 (22:51) little bit. A little bit. Like, what is it? After I grow up? After I grow up? Something. Yeah. After Speaker 1 (22:58) you grow up? Yeah. Speaker 2 (23:00) You're Speaker 1 (23:00) like a fairy. What are you talking about? Speaker 2 (23:05) I also wanted to do a performance. Speaker 1 (23:13) So, yeah, after that, I think you have to do one performance in Shilpa Kala Vedic once. Yeah, Speaker 2 (23:19) yeah, I love to. Speaker 1 (23:20) If you Speaker 2 (23:20) do Speaker 1 (23:20) the Speaker 2 (23:20) full Speaker 1 (23:20) filliations, it will be mad fun. But when you are Speaker 2 (23:25) performing to so Speaker 1 (23:25) many people, sometimes you have to be loud, right? I mean, can you see our expressions? There will be Speaker 2 (23:32) a Speaker 1 (23:32) doubt inside, whether Speaker 2 (23:33) they are on the side of the stage or not. Speaker 1 (23:33) How do you manage that? I Speaker 2 (23:35) mean, Speaker 1 (23:35) should Speaker 2 (23:35) I Speaker 1 (23:35) be Speaker 2 (23:36) performing Speaker 1 (23:36) extra? I should understand the side of the stage. But if I do it too much, they will say, what? They are doing it too much. So do you have that inside? Like you don't want to underperform or overperform? Do you have that inside? Speaker 2 (23:48) No, I haven't thought about it till now. But normally... I told you. I'm focusing on Kuchipudi now. I'm practicing the old tradition now. So... What should I say? How should I say it? Speaker 2 (24:13) There are different ways of narration. Speaker 2 (24:22) People can understand it. And also, I don't know. I don't know how to see it from that distance. I don't know. I don't know. I Speaker 1 (24:31) should be like that. I'm a little conscious. I'm a little like that. I asked you because I didn't know how to do it. I Speaker 2 (24:37) don't know how to do it. I don't Speaker 1 (24:38) remember Speaker 2 (24:38) it. I shouldn't Speaker 1 (24:40) remember. But if Speaker 2 (24:41) I Speaker 1 (24:41) don't Speaker 2 (24:41) think Speaker 1 (24:41) I'm going to stage performances, I'll be in my friends' dance class. Some of them will be my friends. They... After the performance, my Speaker 2 (24:52) mom said, Speaker 1 (24:52) you managed the steps. Not those. Because normally, the audience doesn't know the exact composition. They might think, oh, it's like this. Even if we manage it, they won't understand. Speaker 2 (25:08) So, Speaker 1 (25:09) there will Speaker 2 (25:11) be Speaker 1 (25:11) a Speaker 2 (25:11) difference Speaker 1 (25:11) in the students. If one person can't do it, There are people who feel bad that they didn't do the same thing. But they don't know how to manage. There are new people like that. Which category are you? Speaker 2 (25:24) I am... Speaker 2 (25:28) Maybe both. I mean, before, there were continuously programs. In Speaker 1 (25:36) that Speaker 2 (25:36) time, I was... I mean, we could manage. Even if I missed a line, we could manage it Speaker 1 (25:45) without them knowing. Speaker 2 (25:47) I don't feel like I Speaker 1 (25:49) missed anything. We could manage in that Speaker 2 (25:50) way. Now, I'm doing it in between. Speaker 2 (25:57) I used to be very happy while doing it. So, now I am like, oh no, I don't want to do it. I will cry in anger. I will cry a lot. I don't want to do it. Recently, it Speaker 1 (26:18) has become like that. Speaker 2 (26:19) Not Speaker 1 (26:19) two, Speaker 2 (26:20) but one. It has become like that. I think after months, I did it recently. Speaker 1 (26:28) So Speaker 2 (26:29) when I did it like that, and I still have a small issue in my spine. So because of that, I'm not able to perform very well. So because of all this, I was like, if I did it very well before, I'm not able to do it now. Did you do it like that? At one point, I cry a little. After the stage, it's Speaker 1 (26:49) like Speaker 2 (26:49) this. Speaker 2 (26:51) They say, hug your mother, she is good. If she is good, they say, she is good. But if I am, I am not good. That's the vibe I get now. Speaker 1 (27:01) I understand now. I am Speaker 2 (27:03) saying that I Speaker 1 (27:03) have seen it. Exactly, I understand that. And they do it very technically. I mean, technically. They hold the candle with Speaker 2 (27:12) both hands. Speaker 1 (27:12) There is a candle on Speaker 2 (27:13) it. Speaker 1 (27:14) They stand on a piece Speaker 2 (27:16) of Speaker 1 (27:16) paper. Speaker 2 (27:17) They Speaker 1 (27:18) put