Episode 550 | CLIP THAT!

New Rory & MAL

The episode centers on Rory's explanation and apology regarding a recent public confrontation with Queens Flip at a bar. The hosts discuss h

Key takeaways

• Rory addresses the 'elephant in the room' by apologizing to Damaris and Flip for his actions during a recent outing.
• The hosts debate the social ethics of dating an assistant coach's ex-wife, specifically referencing Greg Popovich.

Main topics

• Rory's apology to Flip
• Greg Pop/NBA gossip

Notable quotes

Men, alcohol, ego, and women... worst combination in the world.

Conclusion

A candid reflection on how personal intentions can be lost in high-pre

Transcript preview

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Speaker 1 (3:19) but like what circle is that like what but like what girl is in that circle i Speaker 5 (3:25) mean coaches coaches hang out you know when they go on road trips and i guess so sit at the Speaker 2 (3:29) bar at the hotel all night the wife might meet y'all on the road somewhere like and we're recording we can start Speaker 1 (3:37) with this i get it for like our circles of like events and be the same chick sometimes and like everybody know this girl and this girl instagram makes things smaller that's a wild circle to just be in as a Middle-aged woman. You just in the coaching circle? Speaker 5 (3:53) Well, yeah. If her husband, her ex-husband was a coach for many years, he's been in the NBA. And Mike Butterholzer, he was one of Greg Popovich's assistants for 20 years. Yeah, like you become family. Y'all go to each other's houses for cookouts and things like that. Like coaches spend a lot of time together. Speaker 1 (4:13) Do you think this is weirder than Scottie Pippen's ex-wife dating Michael Jordan's son? No. You think that's weird? That's Speaker 2 (4:22) the weirdest so far because you watched that kid grow up. That's your nephew. Yeah, that's your nephew at this point. That's just Speaker 5 (4:29) weird, yeah. Speaker 1 (4:31) But if you're a pop, like... Is that weird though? That was your assistant. No, it's, it's a little odd. It's like, if you Mike, are you looking like, wait, this whole time I was brought my wife around you. What did you have in mind? If, if, if I were. Speaker 5 (4:48) To marry your ex-wife, Rory. It would be very strange. That would be very weird. Like super strange. That's what this is. They worked together for 20 years, spent a lot of time with each other. Coaches spend more time with each other than they do their own family. Than the players. Yeah. So it's like, you know, it is very weird. But I mean, listen, if Greg Popovich is happy, hopefully Greg Popovich, you know, he's been dealing with some health issues over the years. Hopefully he is doing better. Yeah. And he's happy at this point in life. It's just all about being, being happy, man. Don't, don't Speaker 1 (5:19) let your career stop your soulmate. Right. If that's the one, that's the one. If that's the one, go after it. We let that, that Kenan Thompson thing came and went. Remember that whole thing? When, I do slightly Speaker 5 (5:29) remember. Speaker 1 (5:30) I forgot that other comedian's name that was on SNL. Yes. He's dating her, his ex Speaker 2 (5:34) -girlfriend. Ex-wife. Ex-wife. Ex-wife. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Speaker 5 (5:38) What is it? What is it Speaker 2 (5:39) with that Speaker 5 (5:40) though? Like it's so many women. Like sometimes that shit is, I get what you just said. If your soulmate happens to be somebody that dated, you know, but I feel like you feel those feelings and emotions before it gets to soulmate level where you need to check that. You Speaker 2 (5:57) need to be like, yo, this is wrong. I can't, I could never marry your ex-wife. I'll put it this way. Your ex could be my soul soulmate. I'll never find out. Speaker 2 (6:08) I'll never even explore the option. And I also don't believe that your ex could be my soulmate. I don't believe that a girl that you had sex with Rory is my soulmate. Oh my God. And I'm just saying, should I be offended by that? No, no, no. It's just a real thing. It's just like, I can't. Well, I agree. I'm with you. I can't. Come on, man. Like a woman that you had, let alone were married to and have children with, like, come Speaker 1 (6:30) on, that's not my. And finding that out would suck too. Like I'd have to have a one-on-one with God. This is what you set for me in the plans? My soulmate is somebody that more fucks? God damn it, God. Speaker 5 (6:40) Yeah, like, that's my soulmate? Why would you do that to me? Yeah, like, I just don't, I don't, I get it, man. You love who you love, and love is a strange thing at times. But before it even gets to level where I feel like someone is my soulmate and I know that that's your ex-girlfriend or ex-wife, it would never Speaker 2 (6:57) get to that. Ever. And... Like, me having sex with that girl is like... That's crazy as is. You know what I'm Speaker 1 (7:03) saying? Speaker 2 (7:03) That's Speaker 5 (7:03) like, Speaker 2 (7:03) yeah, yo, damn, bro. That's Rory's ex. You know what I'm saying? Like, but it's like marriage. Come on, man. And Mike had the dirty Mac, right? No, probably not. Mike ain't tripping. There's no way. Mike ain't tripping. Mike probably like, man, Pop got what? Three left in him, maybe? Don't say that about one of the greatest coaches of all time. Let's Speaker 1 (7:23) just Speaker 2 (7:23) be Speaker 5 (7:23) real. Let's keep it real Fridays, man. Speaker 2 (7:25) He's fucking Mitch McConnell now? Speaker 1 (7:27) Let's Speaker 5 (7:27) keep it real Fridays, man. How old is Greg Popovich? 77. He's in the golden years. What's the average lifespan of white men in America? Watch this, Rory. You should know this off top. This is your demo. This is your demo. Some of Speaker 2 (7:42) us could live to Speaker 5 (7:42) 75 Speaker 2 (7:43) to 76.4. Greg is knocking at the doors. All I'm saying, but I'm saying what Speaker 5 (7:49) Greg loves. I love coach Popovich. I love coach Popovich. 77. He already passed the threshold of the average lifespan of the white man in America. But he's, he's Speaker 1 (7:59) on his shit. And his health is not the greatest. Who's the French guy that we smoked? Pause that out. What? The Nixon Nixon five. Speaker 1 (8:08) Yeah, like quietly hasn't Pop been behind the scenes helping Wemby? Like, is Mond sharp? He's going to work every day? Yeah, but it's not the same. He's Speaker 2 (8:16) not Speaker 1 (8:16) coaching, but he's still helping Speaker 5 (8:17) the Spurs. Yeah, but, you know, it's just 77. Health is not, you know, his battery is not 100%. I'm just Speaker 2 (8:24) saying, if you were my coach. If I'm Mike, Speaker 5 (8:26) I ain't trying. I was Mike Bunholzer. Speaker 2 (8:30) I mean, probably 60, Speaker 5 (8:32) maybe. Well, how old is the wife? 57. Mike is a sprouting 57. You know what I mean? Like, Mike ain't tripping. Who's Mike coaching now? No, he's still in the NBA. Phoenix? Speaker 2 (8:49) Okay, so he Speaker 5 (8:49) was. Speaker 2 (8:50) So he got time. Yeah, so he could be. Speaker 5 (8:52) Mike Speaker 2 (8:52) is out there. Mike is outside. He'd be a supportive partner with all the Speaker 5 (8:55) time. Yeah, like Mike ain't tripping about. That's my ex where she with a 77-year-old man that's, you know, not in 100 % health. Legend, Speaker 1 (9:04) though. She got a legend. Ain't no way in the 20 years they were married and that's your assistant coach and you guys going through a divorce, you ain't look at your man after a game and say, yo, this bitch is on my nerves and didn't get your shit off to your man. That ends up now with her. Dirty Mac can have to happen. That's all I'm saying. Speaker 5 (9:19) Yeah, but sometimes your Dirty Mac turns into a man's... Speaker 2 (9:22) I'm going to land that one. Your Dirty Mac? Your Dirty Mac turns into your man's... Speaker 5 (9:28) One man's Dirty Mac, Speaker 2 (9:29) one man's Treadmill. Speaker 5 (9:29) One man's Dirty Mac is one man's... Mac. Yeah, that's his queen. I think that's kind of fire. You got a good one on your hands. Nah. Speaker 1 (9:41) What about because Damaris is LGBTQ. Speaker 1 (9:47) Do you think you could do the same with maybe one of Damaris' female exes? Speaker 5 (9:52) Who Speaker 1 (9:52) married him? Yeah. Is it different? I'm asking. I haven't formed an opinion yet. It's Speaker 5 (9:59) different, but it's still weird. Speaker 2 (10:02) Yeah, I feel like it'd be odd. It's different. But it's still weird. A girl Speaker 1 (10:07) she slept with. Cool. We can get through that one. Yeah, but this was like a girl she slept with. Her girl? I don't know. I'd feel weird doing that too. Yeah. Like, wifing it? It's just weird. And the thing is, there's so many other women out here. And then it's odd too, because Damaris is really cool with her exes, because she's a good person. So she's on good timing with the people she's been with. So that's even weirder too. Like, y'all still friends, and I'm not. Yeah, I just feel like when Speaker 5 (10:35) you cool with somebody, like just exes are just like, come on, bro. It's just too, when you really sit down and think about how many people are out here. Speaker 2 (10:46) Like getting with someone's exes that you're close with, that you're cool with, that's a choice. Speaker 1 (10:50) But we've talked about that too of even getting back out there. Sometimes it's easier to just be in the circle you know. No, being social. Like going to find a whole new human being and a whole new circle of life. I can Speaker 5 (11:02) be the poster boy for being socially lazy. I've been that. So I know when you're socially lazy, you don't feel like going out, meeting new people. It's like whoever's in close proximity. That's who I'm having conversations with. That's who I'm hanging out with. And Damaris got good taste. She has good taste. So I'm not going out trying to meet somebody. So Damaris, is your ex lonely? Tell her she can come over and, you know, come over, cook, chill, kick it. You know what I mean? Like, I can see how that can happen. Now, for me, that can't happen. But people are socializing and it happens. Greg Popovich can't really be outside on the scene trying to really find him like that no more. I do fear now that Mary might marry Buddenholzer might be a great physical therapist. We don't know what she does for a living. She might be an amazing physical therapist. She might be a great nurse. Speaker 1 (11:51) Which is fucked up. You know, we don't know. That comedian said that about Kenan's ex-wife. Like he's I was I was at my lowest and she was there for me. It's like, all right, we can't we can't fight this one. Right. Brought you out of depression. All right, Speaker 2 (12:02) go marry. Yeah. Like, you know, sometimes you just find you find love in a in a hopeless place. Yeah. Speaker 5 (12:07) Sometimes, you know. Speaker 1 (12:08) Well, any woman out there, if you are my soulmate, just don't tell me you slept with Maul. Let's just keep that. I just never need to know. If you find out after you and Maul. If we vibing, don't tell me. Speaker 5 (12:20) Nah, you tripping. You tripping. Don't vibe with me and you slept with my homie. We can't vibe. Speaker 3 (12:26) If he came in here and told you he had like, you know, guys, I secretly like fell in love. Like we've been taking it slow, but like I really, I'm in love. Would you tell him you hit? Speaker 2 (12:35) We have a whole sketch about this. The girl is my ex? Yeah. Speaker 3 (12:38) Not your ex, but you hit. Speaker 2 (12:40) Yeah, I mean, we did a sketch. We did a whole sketch Speaker 3 (12:42) about this. Yeah, we'll Speaker 5 (12:43) tell them. Speaker 3 (12:44) Yeah. Speaker 5 (12:45) Absolutely. Like, yo, fam, like, I see you falling in love, like, a lot of dates. She's got Speaker 1 (12:55) your house now. Also, how insane do I say that? Damaris said I came in here and said, hey, I'm taking it slow. That's what I said on the couch. When Speaker 5 (13:03) the last time somebody took it slow, Damaris? Niggas don't take it slow. I'm taking it slow. All right, we're not doing this. I'm a little slow, but I'm taking it slow. Speaker 2 (13:12) You don't take it Speaker 5 (13:12) slow. Speaker 2 (13:13) You're right, but Speaker 1 (13:14) I'm trying to now. Now that I'm back out. Well, I'm not dating, but I'm back. I'm single. So yeah, this is the first time I think. I'm taking it slow. Because you are very much correct. You do not take Speaker 2 (13:27) it slow. You do not. No, no. You know me. You are correct. You fall in love two lap dancers in. I'm not that guy. And Speaker 1 (13:35) you're like, yo, why are you doing this? And first of all, I'm not like the serial monogamous that's been in mad relationships. Like, no, I fall in love with the people I fall in love with. But you are correct. I am a lesbian in that regard that you move in. If I'm in love, you're moving in tomorrow. Yeah. You are correct. I'm not denying that as a person. Speaker 2 (13:49) Yeah, Speaker 1 (13:49) that's not taking it slow. I'm saying now at this point Speaker 2 (13:52) in my life. Who do you think take it slow? Me or you? You see the difference? Speaker 1 (13:57) You are the 405 during rush hour with everything. I take it slow. Bro, you're the Holland Tunnel during the festival. You take Speaker 3 (14:05) commitment slow. You be fast to get some pussy. You a little Speaker 2 (14:08) hussy. You are a little hussy. No, don't say it. What if they fast to give it to me? But I'm fine with that. I don't talk about that part of it, Damaris. I've been trying. I've been like, I don't think we should do this. I think we should Speaker 5 (14:17) take it slow. I've said that. I've said I think we should take it slow. But they already called me gay on the internet, so I'm just trying to save my rep at this time. I gotta hit it. Maybe he is gay. Speaker 2 (14:31) I just got naked, girl, and he said, let's take things slow. Well, to prove to men on the internet that you're not gay is pretty good. Speaker 5 (14:38) That is gay. That is very gay. But I'm just saying, like, if a woman wants to have sex, sometimes it'd be hard to say no. Speaker 1 (14:44) But I am very much, when I say take it slow, I'm not. I also have to take it slow. Not to, like, make things serious, but, like, you can't do what I was doing and have a kid. Like how I would fall in love quick with just two people in two different relationships. I can't do that. You can't Speaker 2 (15:02) move in. Speaker 5 (15:03) Well, Speaker 2 (15:04) no, you can't move in, but that don't mean you can take it slow. And I have a Speaker 1 (15:10) whole different mind state with that. Like we got to be two years in before you meet tomorrow. Speaker 1 (15:16) Well, now that has Speaker 5 (15:18) to happen. You can't just have any and everybody around you. Your daughter. No, that's not healthy. Yeah, not at all. But but we are back sponsored by Boost Mobile. Yes. Text and data. Data, data, data, data, data, data. 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Whoop is the wearable health and fitness coach that provides personalized insights into your sleep, recovery, strain, and overall health to help you make better decisions every day. Whether you're training, working, traveling, or just trying to feel your best, Whoop shows you what helps your performance and what might be holding you back. Listen to your body. Build better habits. See where Whoop can take you. Try Whoop free for 30 days at Whoop Speaker 4 (16:44) .com. Lisa, we should tell them about our new show. Oh my God, Lexi. We have a new podcast. It's called Don't Lie to Me. I'm Lexi Iwanu. We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart. And I'm Lisa DiGiulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions. And at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. I'm not going to get anywhere fighting. That is wild. I learned that about you today. Now in my 30s, being the founder of New Shoes, good taste is my business. 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It's playing out in real life, not just on the phone. Speaker 6 (20:37) Every piece of evidence pointed to one man. But every piece of evidence was a lie. Speaker 7 (20:44) He was not going to stop unless we stopped him. Speaker 6 (20:48) Listen to Betrayal Season 6 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaker 2 (20:59) How's everyone feeling? I'm feeling great, man. How you feeling? Woke Speaker 5 (21:02) up to a shitstorm. Snowstorm. Blizzard, if you will. Okay. They said it was a snowstorm last night. I said, really? Snow already? They said, yo, your man Rory was in the streets wild. And I said, what you mean? Speaker 2 (21:15) Yeah, man. I don't know. I spoke to Damaris last night. Damaris is mad at me. She should be mad at you. She should be. Yeah. I think she has a right to be mad at me. So let me just paint the scenario so y'all can just laugh for a second. Speaker 1 (21:30) Okay. Speaker 2 (21:32) I'm in Speaker 5 (21:32) the shower, bought this new body wash. Couldn't wait to try it. That's what's going on. That's the excitement. That's the excitement in my life. I'm like, ooh, this is all natural Speaker 1 (21:39) ingredients. Speaker 5 (21:39) Can you plug it or is Speaker 1 (21:40) it Speaker 5 (21:40) too Speaker 1 (21:40) soon? Too soon to plug it? Too soon. Okay. Speaker 5 (21:42) Don't know how the skin is going to react to it just yet. Just used it last night and this morning. So it's like, give it a weekend at least, right? So I'm like, yeah, I'm excited to try this new body wash. Cool. In the shower. I'm like, okay, it feels great. You know when the shower steams up and you have a great body wash and the whole bathroom smells like this? Oh, I love that. Yeah. Bathroom smells great. Brushing my teeth. I hear my phone going off, right? Nothing unusual, but it's a little, it's like 12, 45, one in the morning, maybe something. Okay. Somebody's calling me. Phone stops ringing. Rings again. So back to back, it gotta be the same person. Okay. So I finished, you know, brushing my teeth, go get my phone, look. It's my cousin at FaceTime. Two times. Chelsea cousin. Now this is the cousin that. Speaker 5 (22:31) We all have this relative that it's just certain hours. If they call you, it's only one or two things that's happening. Yeah. Either somebody is about to die or somebody died. Right. So I'm like, fuck. Calls him. I was. No, I was great calling back. Open the phone. I see a text from you that says Damaris is wrong. I'm right. Speaker 5 (22:56) Y'all got to understand my world is completely, I got a random text from Rory saying Damaris is wrong. I'm right. My cousin who I never want to get a call from at one in the morning, just triple FaceTime me. Speaker 2 (23:10) This is, we're at Def Con. What's the highest Def Con? Speaker 5 (23:12) Five? Speaker 2 (23:14) We're at four. Four. Whatever Kanye said about the Jews, it was as high as he could go. Yeah. We're at four. Speaker 5 (23:19) Right? I'm like, okay, cool. Call my cousin back. My cousin says, Speaker 5 (23:29) Yo, I'm in here, right? And I see your man. I'm just trying to make sure everything good. So I'm like, what's the natural question? Who my man? Because I may know niggas, but niggas don't be my man. But you know, my cousin, he just probably seen somebody that, I'm thinking he seen somebody that he knows that I know. So he like, yo. People that would date your ex. Yeah. Speaker 5 (23:51) He turns the phone. I see Rory. I'm like, oh, OK. But now the text that Rory sent me, I'm still not I don't know what that meant. Speaker 1 (23:59) Well, that's because and not to cut you off. That was because I thought Damaris had already hit you. No, Damaris didn't hit me at all. OK, I thought she had. So now Speaker 5 (24:10) understand, I don't know what's happening. So I'm like, OK, cool. I'm like, yo, he good? He's like, yeah, man, you know, he he's standing here talking to homie. But I don't know. I can't. I'm trying to read the energy. And then my cousin says something that that type of cousin you don't ever want to hear. He says, and you know, I don't do well with this type of energy. Now, I don't know who Rory's talking to, but I know the energy my cousin is