Episode 542 | 125th & Me

New Rory & MAL

Rory and MAL kick off Episode 542 of New Rory & MAL with a humorous take on Labor Day, blending wordplay around 'labor' with weekend recaps and cultural commentary. The episode touches

Key takeaways

• Labor Day is humorously reinterpreted as both a day of rest and a nod to childbirth, sparking playful banter about the term's double meaning.
• The hosts debate cultural rankings like Complex's Top 100 Hottest Rappers, highlighting ongoing controversies around artists like Lil Baby and Travis Scott.

Main topics

• Labor Day traditions and wordplay
• Drake's upcoming album 'FOMO'
• Complex magazine's Top 100 Hottest Rappers list

Notable quotes

"Labor on Labor Day. We are performing labor. Because what other way would you celebrate Labor Day than to do some labor?"

"To go into labor. Labor of love, for real. Labor of life."

Conclusion

The episode closes on a lighthearted yet reflective note, blending satire and

Transcript preview

Speaker 5 (0:00) This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinheiro and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaker 7 (0:39) If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. Pro Society is a weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. Each week, we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and pop culture with your favorite writers, book talk creators, and plenty of overthought opinions. Yeah, I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. Listen to Pro Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaker 4 (1:11) Our hometown is not a test tube. 90 miles northeast of Nashville, a battle for the future of America plays out in one small town. Developers with right-wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land. We need cities on a shining hill. This is Our Town, a podcast about what happens when a small town becomes the site of a social experiment and fights back. Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? Listen to Our Town on the iHeartRadio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaker 6 (1:46) Hey, I'm Mike Yam. And I'm Trevor Sykema. And together, we host the NFL Fantasy Football Show. Are you ready to dominate your fantasy league this season? Because if you aren't locked in with us on the NFL Fantasy Football Show, you're already playing from behind. Whether you're a first-time player or a grizzled vet chasing another championship, we give you the advantage and the confidence you need to make every move count. Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaker 2 (2:51) Clock is on. Please leave me alone, bro. If Speaker 1 (2:55) the clock is on, Rory, does that mean we're on the clock? Yes. On Labor Day? Labor on Labor Day. We are performing labor. Because what other way would you celebrate Labor Day than to do some labor? Speaker 8 (3:08) It's to take the day off. Hopefully Speaker 1 (3:09) some women out there that are going through labor are delivering a healthy baby today. Speaker 2 (3:15) Healthy children. I never thought of it that way. Safe pregnancy. I should wish my child's mother a happy Labor Day. I didn't even put those two things together. I mean, that's the greatest labor that ever was. Yeah. To go into labor. Labor of love, for real. Labor of love. Labor of life. Speaker 2 (3:34) Why do Speaker 8 (3:34) we Speaker 2 (3:35) always work on holidays? Speaker 8 (3:36) I Speaker 2 (3:37) have no clue. I feel like she's Jamaican too, so it's even worse. The Marys ain't Jamaican. They don't make Jamaicans in Rochester. Yes, they do. For real? There's definitely West Indians in upstate New York. For real? Fucking idiot. Speaker 3 (3:51) You think West Indians just belong in Brooklyn and that's it? Speaker 1 (3:54) I didn't know there was any West Indians in Rochester. Born and raised, so they moved from the city to Rochester. Speaker 2 (4:02) I'm sure born and raised. Speaker 1 (4:04) I never knew Speaker 2 (4:05) that. Speaker 8 (4:06) You don't think like Benny and Speaker 2 (4:07) Conway had a Jamaican friend? Born and raised in Buffalo? Yes. Speaker 1 (4:15) I guess. Never thought about it that way. Speaker 8 (4:18) Okay. Well, shout out to everyone on the Parkway right now as we're recording this. I'm sure you're having a great time. Big up yourself. Eating amazing food. I'm sure Wyclef is there. Speaker 2 (4:29) Asking for more money for Haiti. Did they ever audit him? I don't know. Speaker 1 (4:36) Or Red Cross or anyone. Nobody cares. Speaker 2 (4:39) Do we think Mondami's on the float? For sure. He's definitely on the float. Crime happening all over the city. He's on the float at the Labor Day parade. Stop right there. You know. Give my guy some credit. Lowest homicide Speaker 8 (4:52) rate, I think, in history for New York this summer. Speaker 3 (4:56) Yeah, it's one of the safest New York City summers. Speaker 8 (4:58) Yeah, man. Shout out to my guy, man. Free buses, free food, no murders, not one. Speaker 1 (5:07) You're not pulling me into this. Happy Labor Day. Okay. Fair enough. You're not pulling me into that. How was your holiday weekend? My holiday weekend was cool, chill, relaxed. I actually was in Brooklyn yesterday. I forgot it was the Labor Day parade today. You went for Juve. No, I didn't. I totally forgot. I went to pick up some food in Brooklyn, one of my favorite restaurants out there. And I started seeing all the barricades and shit. I was like, oh, hey, I'm getting out of here. I was like, Juve's Speaker 8 (5:38) in Speaker 1 (5:38) it. Like the sun was starting to set. I said, oh, no, no, no. I'm getting out of Brooklyn. Yeah. I'm getting out. You were Speaker 8 (5:42) going to get hit with a can of paint Speaker 1 (5:43) in about two seconds. Yeah. Speaker 8 (5:44) Let Speaker 1 (5:44) me get out of Brooklyn. I forgot Juve is tonight. Yeah. The parade is today. I said, yeah, let me get out of here, man. But, you know, weekend was cool. Yeah. Speaker 2 (5:52) We should. Well, let me not do that. My knees are old. I'd say let's do Speaker 8 (5:57) Juve as a crew one time. Nah. But it's the safest summer. The last time I did Juve was 2008, and it was not a safe summer. So if I made it through 08, I think we can make it through 2027. Speaker 1 (6:08) The summer only felt safe because it was so much rain. Yeah. You know, they sent the rain clouds over New York. Mom Donnie made a deal with... Speaker 2 (6:17) That's Republican math for sure. He sent the rain clouds over New York. Yeah. You can see the rain clouds. You can't tell the rain clouds Speaker 1 (6:23) from the real clouds. Like the rain, like the fake clouds are so like white and like, like just like they look like... Clouds. No, no, no. You know clouds, but I'm talking about the big, white, strong looking. Speaker 2 (6:37) They almost look fake in the sky, clouds. Well, the past four days, and this is a very local podcast so far, the past four days, Speaker 8 (6:42) the Speaker 2 (6:42) clouds have been very beautiful. I don't know if you've noticed. Speaker 8 (6:44) Last Speaker 2 (6:45) four days, Speaker 8 (6:45) they've Speaker 2 (6:45) been Speaker 8 (6:45) really, really nice. I didn't go, oh my God, look at the fake Speaker 2 (6:48) clouds. The cloud Speaker 1 (6:50) machine, bro. I'm trying to tell you. See, Speaker 2 (6:53) y Speaker 1 (6:53) 'all Speaker 2 (6:53) be Speaker 1 (6:53) laughing at me, but then 10 years from now when a documentary comes out on Netflix. There's already documentaries for that. Yeah, but now I'm talking about when a new one comes out and it says the summer of 2026, a new machine was created and then y'all gonna be like, damn, all was right. Nah, give me my shit now. Give me my flowers now. I'll Speaker 3 (7:08) wait. It's okay. Speaker 1 (7:09) I'll be alive in 10 Speaker 3 (7:10) years. Speaker 1 (7:10) Nah, nah, nah. Give me my flowers now. Don't give me my flowers. I don't want flowers later. I don't take late flowers. Speaker 2 (7:15) I don't want late flowers. Well, send me the docs so I can put a claim into my insurance company because the rain has ruined my roof Speaker 8 (7:19) and I'm in debt because of it. So I would love to sue the United States Speaker 2 (7:25) government for bringing all these clouds upon my house. Baby D, what's up? Speaker 1 (7:30) How was your weekend? Where you was at? Toes out. Speaker 3 (7:33) Let's Speaker 1 (7:34) get into it. Good pedicure. Poolside. I have nice toes. Poolside, though. Speaker 3 (7:40) Hanging with family. Speaker 1 (7:41) Hanging with family. Speaker 1 (7:44) Right. It's always family. It Speaker 3 (7:46) was okay. Family love the Speaker 1 (7:47) pool, don't they? Nah, we buried somebody, but... Y'all buried somebody. Damn, my condolences. It's okay. I didn't know you had a funeral to go to. Who passed? Me neither. Speaker 3 (8:02) Unexpected funeral. Speaker 1 (8:03) Unexpected funeral, huh? Speaker 3 (8:04) All right, Peter. Speaker 1 (8:08) We are back sponsored by Boost Mobile. Unlimited talk, Speaker 2 (8:12) text, data. Speaker 1 (8:13) I wish Speaker 2 (8:13) you guys knew how funny that was. I'm not. But I'm not going to just leave that one alone. I'm leaving Baby D. Everyone listening to silence is for a reason. Speaker 1 (8:22) I'm leaving you alone for the rest of the pod. Don't even worry about it, Baby D. And we're back. We are back. Sponsored by Boost Mobile. Unlimited talk, text, and data. Speaker 2 (8:30) Had to make some edits. But yes, again, happy Labor Day to everybody that Speaker 8 (8:35) celebrates. We are here to influence the culture. Speaker 2 (8:40) To everyone that identifies with Labor Day. Everyone that celebrates Labor Day. What is Labor Day? Like for today. It's just to be like, yo, great. You don't have to pay for parking, the meters. Bank is closed. Bank is closed. It's a federal holiday the United States celebrated on the Speaker 8 (8:58) first Monday of September to Speaker 2 (8:59) honor the achievements and contributions of American workers. Okay. Well, that's why we're working today. We don't like work. We're honoring the achievements of Speaker 1 (9:07) American workers in the culture. That's what we're doing today. Speaker 8 (9:12) Yeah. I feel like this day is for people that like operate machinery. Yeah. uh harsh harsh conditions long hours unsafe environments i don't know that kind of does describe this office yeah harsh conditions it's freezing in here right now long hours potting forever unsafe definitely Speaker 2 (9:27) unsafe definitely unsafe in here for sure let me tell you depending on the guests we have that week but Speaker 8 (9:32) anyways um where do we want to begin i like a little laid-back holiday fomo 915 915 fomo do we have to Pre-record, do you have to shoot up a Speaker 3 (9:44) North? Speaker 8 (9:45) What does FOMO stand Speaker 3 (9:45) for? Fuck on my ops? Speaker 8 (9:47) Hmm? Speaker 3 (9:47) Hmm? Fuck, what does the FOMO stand for? Fuck on my ops? Fuck? Speaker 2 (9:51) Fuck on my ops? Fuck on my ops? You know, FOMO is like a thing, like fear of missing out. You think FOMO means fuck on my ops? No, Speaker 3 (9:58) I'm... Speaker 3 (10:01) I'm asking. It's Speaker 2 (10:02) a Speaker 3 (10:02) double disc. What does Drake mean by it? You know? Speaker 1 (10:05) FOMO is fear of missing out. Speaker 3 (10:06) I know what fear of missing out. I was just wondering if he had a double entendre for it. That's all. Speaker 1 (10:10) I mean, he probably has some other meanings for it. You know, but it's fear of missing out. I'm sure we'll get more of an explanation once the. the stream happens September 15th. Speaker 8 (10:20) But you can confirm that once he explains the title, it's not going to be fuck on my ops. No, it definitely will not. You heard it here first. It's not fuck Speaker 1 (10:29) on my fucking on his eyes. He might be saying fuck all his ops, but he's not fucking on his ops. No, he's not doing that. I promise you that's not going to happen on the stream. I don't know what stream you were waiting for. That's not the Speaker 8 (10:41) one I was. That's not the Speaker 1 (10:42) stream that's about to happen, though. Speaker 8 (10:43) Oh, OK. He Speaker 3 (10:45) said fear of missing out. Speaker 8 (10:46) But this is on a Tuesday. Old school. Old Speaker 1 (10:49) school. Take me back. Speaker 8 (10:50) So we are confirming, or at least we are predicting, that this is definitely an album, not just like a stream where we'll listen to some music that we've heard already. Speaker 3 (11:01) We Speaker 8 (11:02) all confidently think this is an album? Could Speaker 3 (11:03) just be a song. Could be a, not documentary, but some type of video piece. Speaker 1 (11:11) Now, I don't know because I haven't spoken to him about this. My guess is that it's a stream probably of some new music. Okay. Some music that maybe didn't. Speaker 1 (11:26) make any of the three albums okay Speaker 8 (11:28) that's Speaker 1 (11:29) a lot somebody like drake is you know obviously in the studio all the time and some records that probably don't make an album this is just his way of because if we've seen anything the last what two years is you know leaked files and things like that music being put out that he's already had recorded so i think this is just another way of him giving us some new music maybe some new visuals for music that's already out okay Speaker 8 (11:53) um Speaker 1 (11:56) But yeah, I do think that this is some new music attached to this stream though. Speaker 8 (12:00) Okay. Well, this is at rap. They're verified. It's the internet. So it has to be true. Drake's FOMO project will reportedly drop alongside at least two music videos. The drop will reportedly include the video Drake shot in the Bahamas with Stunna Sandy and one where he was seen wearing an Iron Man suit. Okay. But I don't think he would do Speaker 2 (12:20) a two week rollout just for two music videos of songs we've heard. I feel like music is attached to it as well. Speaker 1 (12:25) Music is attached to this. I do believe that there's new music. And it should be. Why not? I mean, his album is still number one, but he's probably like, hey, there's more music that I want to put out, more visuals that he shot. Why not put it out? Speaker 2 (12:42) An odd title for someone that put out three albums in one year. It hasn't really missed out. For a fourth, but yeah, Speaker 1 (12:50) I mean it might have been some things that he you know me He Speaker 2 (12:52) didn't really get to an address. Oh the songs felt like they're missing out cuz they were they were Coming from right got you Speaker 1 (12:59) the songs have FOMO because they didn't make any of the eyes you yeah So this is way his way of patch packaging those songs that didn't make mmm the three albums. Yeah, and You Speaker 2 (13:10) know from their perspective Right You know what I mean? Will he shoot a video from the angle of the song's perspective? Exactly. Of just sitting on a hard Speaker 1 (13:17) drive? Imagine all the songs that never get the chance to get put out. How do they feel? How do those songs feel that live in the hard drive? What would those songs say if they could talk? Joyner Lucas, please do a song about me. What would those songs say that we never get to hear, that never see the light of day, Baby D? What would those songs say? Speaker 3 (13:37) Makes sense. Speaker 1 (13:38) Right? Speaker 3 (13:39) Yeah. Yeah, so, you know, Speaker 1 (13:40) FOMO. Put it Speaker 2 (13:42) in my album. Well, no, I'm here for it. Do y'all think he's releasing too much music? Hell no. With all this trash shit out here? Thank you. I like the three albums. If Speaker 8 (13:55) I felt otherwise about... That's usually the gauge when it comes to me as a fan. Speaker 3 (13:59) Too Speaker 8 (14:00) much music if it's all mid and you're giving me a 40-track album and I like eight records. This is too much. But I liked all three projects. Yeah, if you got more. Speaker 3 (14:12) Which one out of the three do you listen to the most? Speaker 8 (14:15) Iceman, for sure. Definitely Iceman. I figure. But I do like the other two projects. Listen, if FOMO is like a Scary Hours and it's a bunch of rapping, I'm here for that, too. Even in that plot twist shit with all the footage he was putting out, he was rapping over some most def beat from the CLB era. I wish that song would come out. There's plenty of shit that I just wish he would release. that's been sitting on Speaker 2 (14:39) hard drive so well here you go maybe maybe this is that FOMO FOMO I got FOMO for your head time you know what I'm saying um Speaker 8 (14:49) Complex the greatest media outlet of all time until they leave us off a list uh has updated their top 100 hottest Speaker 2 (14:57) rappers alive right now here they go rage baiting us again not it well you'll be fine with this Speaker 1 (15:02) one I won't be fine Speaker 2 (15:03) one Speaker 8 (15:03) and Speaker 1 (15:03) two you're fine Complex gives us 100 hottest rappers alive right now. Already I got a problem with this. Drake should be number zero, not number one for you, right? Drake is fine. We know Drake is number one, but Kanye being number nine is crazy. Well, let's give the top ten. Speaker 3 (15:24) Why is Kanye being number nine crazy? Speaker 1 (15:28) because Kanye is currently selling out stadiums around the world. Speaker 3 (15:31) Oh, he's too low is what you're saying. I mean, you would like him to be higher up. Okay, that makes sense. Fuck yeah. Speaker 8 (15:37) The 10 is Drake, Don Toliver, Rod Wave, Jay-Z, Playboi Carti, NBA Youngboy, Ken Carson, Travis Scott, Kanye West, and number 10, J. Cole. And if we want to go to 15, Kendrick, Lil Baby, Future, Eminem, Lil Uzi. Speaker 8 (15:56) no disrespect to Uzi, but he's like, purposely, I felt like he's been quiet. Is he above his sister-in-law who has a hit record right now? Yeah, Young Miami being number what? She's right after Uzi at 16. Speaker 1 (16:07) She should be hot. She has arguably the hottest song of the summer. How is she not higher up on the list? Speaker 3 (16:12) I'm sure if you go to... Surprise dropped an EP on July 31st. Speaker 8 (16:18) Okay, well, I'm out the loop and if that was big, I apologize. It's such a surprise, I didn't even know Speaker 1 (16:21) it was out. Speaker 8 (16:22) But I don't gauge Uzi's hotness based off if I was paying attention to it. So that is unfair for what I'm saying. But I still think, I'm sure Uzi has an insane amount of monthly listeners no matter what. He Speaker 2 (16:37) did 23,000 first Speaker 8 (16:37) week album equivalent units. If it was a surprise quick EP with no promotion, I don't think that's terrible. Speaker 1 (16:45) I just feel, yeah, I don't know. I mean, that's Lil Uzi. I thought he would have did more than that. I mean, his following, his fan base is incredible. It goes back to my point. Like, rap is just not, it's not streaming well, man. It's just not. Speaker 2 (17:01) I don't want to, like, enter this, enter the chat with hate, but Lil Speaker 3 (17:06) Baby at number 12? If you don't do nothing else, you're going to remember that clock on Lil Baby. You're going to bring that shit up whenever you can. What do you mean? I'm not a Lil Baby hater. Okay. I'm not saying you're a Lil Baby hater. Speaker 2 (17:19) Lil Baby's hotter than Young Miami right now? No. Speaker 2 (17:24) No. Speaker 8 (17:24) He's not hotter than Tyler. Not hotter than Future. Not hotter than Glorilla. Speaker 3 (17:30) He might be hotter than Yeet. We saw Yeet outside our office. He's not hotter than Cardi B. He might be hotter than Future right now at this moment in time. He's not Speaker 2 (17:39) hotter than the baby at 27. Lil Baby's hotter than Future right now? Speaker 3 (17:44) At this time, he might be, yeah. Speaker 2 (17:45) See, this is what I hate when I have to look like a Speaker 3 (17:47) hater. You just dropped Speaker 1 (17:48) the Speaker 3 (17:48) album. That you came in here and said you didn't like. Speaker 1 (17:52) Yeah, but I mean, at least you got new music out. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the Complex say, what they basing it. I think Boss Man D-Lo's hotter than him. I don't know if Lil Baby's hotter than Lil Shimmy right now. I don't know. I don't know is what I'm saying. I'm seeing a lot of clips, Lil Shimmy shows. Like, I don't know. I'm just saying, I don't know what Complex's basing this on. Speaker 1 (18:21) But I don't think Lil' Shimmy should be number 28 on the hottest right now. You Speaker 8 (18:25) think Lil' Baby's hotter than Gunna right now? Because they have Gunna at 68. Speaker 1 (18:30) That's crazy. Speaker 1 (18:33) That's crazy. Yeah, that's a little wild. That's insane. Yeah. Speaker 8 (18:37) And I mean, they're always going to play Wale, but we don't need to go down that path again. Speaker 3 (18:40) Skill isn't the determining factor. This is a temperature check on a given rapper's impact on the scene. We're judging rappers on the music they put out and its impact while also considering how anticipated pending new releases are. So that's important. Speaker 1 (18:54) 67 Speaker 2 (18:54) rappers are not hotter than Gunna right now. If Gunna announced he's putting something out in... A month, a week, a day. Everyone's stopping. He's Speaker 1 (19:03) going Speaker 2 (19:03) to stream better than 67 Speaker 3 (19:04) people on the list. But Speaker 1 (19:06) he hasn't Speaker 3 (19:06) announced it. So they're saying, considering anticipated pending new releases. So you've announced that you have something coming out and people are anticipating it, which might be why Lil Baby's up there because Lil Baby has announced that his album is coming soon. Speaker 8 (19:18) And Speaker 3 (19:18) he still has a cult fan base, whether y'all want to admit that or not. He still has a cult fan base. For Lil Baby? Of course he does. Speaker 8 (19:25) Of course. But is the Lil Baby album that anticipated? The way it used to be? For those people, yes, Speaker 3 (19:32) it is. But that doesn't mean anything for the way it used to be. We just said that rap isn't streaming the way it used to be. Any of these artists, you could say their new album is not going to be anticipated the way it would have at their peak. That doesn't mean anything. Speaker 1 (19:46) Belly Gang needs to be hired at number 42. Speaker 8 (19:50) Yeah. But Belly, he's in his ascension now. Like, I think if they update this in two months, Belly Gang would be much, much higher. But that record with him is going to satisfy. I ain't going to lie. Trim Speaker 3 (20:01) need to be higher than a lot of niggas. If I'm being honest, Trim need to be higher than a lot of niggas. If I'm being honest. Speaker 8 (20:07) Damn, you saw our girl over the weekend? She showed how young she was. I saw these rap bitches in the airport and they ain't swing. Yeah, I know. We're in an airport. Yeah, for sure. Why the fuck would I punch somebody in an airport? Speaker 3 (20:19) For sure. But Trim and Saucy Santana need to be hired in a lot of these people. I'm not going to lie. I'm not mad at you. I'm not even going to. Not even capping. I think Speaker 2 (20:29) Lucky should be hired too. Gunna at 68 is crazy. Like, come on. No, that's like absurd. Like, come on. Wale at 73? Complex is always going to play Wale, so we don't have to go down that. Doja at 78? Yeah. Speaker 8 (20:45) Yeah, this is crazy. Well, let's just, before we move on, let's just quickly go back to the top 10. Let's Speaker 3 (20:52) do top 20. Or top 15, at least. Top Speaker 8 (20:54) 15 still. I mean, Eminem, I guess you can just always say Eminem is streaming more than everyone at all given times. So he automatically is there, Speaker 2 (21:05) I guess. What number is Jay? Jay is at number four. And I know... Raw Wave is hotter than Jay-Z right now? This Speaker 1 (21:12) nigga just sold out Tottenham in 2010. Speaker 1 (21:16) What are we talking about? Is this? Okay. My bad. This list was probably made before the shows, right? This was updated. This was posted today. Okay. So back to what I'm saying. Rod Wave is hotter. Rod Speaker 3 (21:28) Wave. You did. Rod Wave. Seven studio album, Don't Look Down. Debuted at number one on the Billboard 200 with 99,000 equivalent first album units. Speaker 8 (21:38) When did that come out? Don't Look Down? This Speaker 3 (21:40) week. Speaker 8 (21:40) This week? All right. Shout out to Rod Wave. That's incredible numbers. Speaker 8 (21:45) Oh, that album just came out? Mm-hmm. I get it. Again, it's not like my world, but I can understand that. I know we call ourselves Hovengers, so we're compromised. But yeah, I think the Reasonable Doubt anniversary has put Jay in the top five for sure with everything that he's doing in rap. Speaker 3 (22:03) Mm-hmm. Speaker 8 (22:04) I Speaker 2 (22:05) don't think you can... Even if you're a Jay-Z hater, I don't think you can argue that at all. Because Speaker 1 (22:09) the thing about what Jay is doing, doing stadiums... A lot of us never felt like Jay had stadium music. Speaker 2 (22:17) Yeah, you're probably Speaker 1 (22:18) right. So you're telling me that... song cry and fucking dead president dead presidents went crazy in the stadium which was like wow like that's that was never considered stadium music like nobody ever pictured i Speaker 3 (22:32) always thought i always felt like y'all were wrong about that like saying that stadium music because it's so hardcore rappity rap well y'all think stadium music y'all think more of like kanye singles type well Speaker 8 (22:42) music yes and no because like the on the run tours like there would be a break where he would do song cry on the second one but it was like sandwiched in with stadium beyonce music so it was like cool moments i didn't expect a boom bap album that has 10 000 words per song to run through yankee stadium like that no i did not expect reasonable doubt to play in a stadium my favorite kanye quote is hi-hats don't play in a stadium because he's fucking right Speaker 3 (23:07) like Speaker 8 (23:08) i can see like niggas in Speaker 1 (23:09) paris stay here otis stadium Speaker 2 (23:15) Outside of that, it's Speaker 1 (23:16) like regrets Speaker 2 (23:17) playing at Yankee Stadium the way it's playing. Yeah. Speaker 1 (23:19) Like it just it just it speaks to Jay's legacy and, you know, the career that he has. But Jay's catalog, when you listen to it, is not you would not listen to that and be like, oh, this is stadium. level music this is great raps this is great music but stadium needs to be more high energy Kanye West yeah like it just needs to feel a little it needs to it needs to be a little you know more I guess over Speaker 1 (23:49) Produced? Exaggerated. Like the music needs to be like, you understand because it's a stadium. You have to fill that space with a lot of energy and a lot of music and a lot of sound. Jay is more cool, cool raps, you know what I'm saying? Over cool beats and shit like that. He's rapping his ass off, but we never looked at Jay's at Reasonable Doubt. blueprint as stadium music though it's Speaker 3 (24:09) a Speaker 1 (24:09) lot of words yeah like so to see what he's doing i'm Speaker 3 (24:12) happy he changed y'all's mind that night oh Speaker 1 (24:14) no it's i mean again it speaks to his career and what he's been able to amass throughout his career in his catalog but it's still to me it's it's crazy to see it is what it is like because we never looked at it like that what kanye is doing stadiums The music is Kanye's music and Jay-Z's music is two different things. Speaker 3 (24:32) Well, Speaker 1 (24:33) Kanye Speaker 3 (24:33) has that production factor where he's going to go. It's Speaker 1 (24:36) the music. And specifically. No, Speaker 3 (24:38) not just the music, the production of the show. Oh, yeah. Oh, well, that's. Yeah. I Speaker 1 (24:42) mean, you can hire a great production team to create that. Like that is that doesn't speak. I mean, Kanye, yes, he obviously had a hand in that. But like if you're an artist that had. that type of music and you sit down with a great production team and they're like, yo, listen, we're going to put you on the top of the world. But I'm sure that Speaker 8 (24:59) was Kanye's idea. That was Kanye's Speaker 1 (25:00) idea. Well, we saw Speaker 8 (25:01) it at the... With the right production company to produce Kanye's vision. But even like to the marriage point... Well, we kind of Speaker 1 (25:06) saw it at the Drake-Kanye show in LA. It was a great okie-doke. That was kind of like the moon, right? That was kind of like the moon. That was kind of like the moon. That felt more like the moon like him and Drake was on, right? Now, Kanye's on top of the world, right? So we get it. He went from the moon to the world. Understand? It was a quick flight. If Speaker 8 (25:25) we ever have a conversation with Drake, out of the countless questions I already have in my head, I do want to ask him what their conversation was before that. If Kanye really did some slick shit. Because he performed CLB, right? That was it. I can't remember. That was CLB time. Speaker 3 (25:40) Yeah, for Speaker 8 (25:41) sure. So Speaker 3 (25:41) I think Speaker 8 (25:41) whatever album Drake had just put out, that's what he performed. While Kanye West then went up there and did his greatest hits. Mm-hmm. Did he know? Like I think it was just been a better show if Drake did the same He was more like B sides of CLB and then that went up against can't tell me nothing and it was like, okay Speaker 3 (26:02) But did they have a conversation about they ever frame that that was even supposed to be like a versus type thing or no, no, I didn't Speaker 2 (26:09) mean of I don't mean a verse. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just like, what's your playlist? Yeah. Like what Speaker 3 (26:14) type of show are we trying Speaker 8 (26:15) to do right now? Speaker 3 (26:16) Yeah. Speaker 8 (26:17) No, not versus. But I could see Kanye being like, oh, yeah, I'm going to do the Jesus's Water album. And then he walks out there and does touch the sky. And Drake's sitting there like, all right, man. This is why I can never fuck with this dude. Speaker 1 (26:30) Listen, if those two ever get to a space where they work together again and they could make that a tour. Speaker 3 (26:40) I have to sell fucking pussy and toes to get a ticket. Well, they doing that anyway, but. Speaker 2 (26:46) That show? They did that for the Don Tolliver show last night. Yeah. That show, though? Speaker 3 (26:51) Did you make it to the Don Tolliver show, Mo? No. I'm surprised at you. Speaker 1 (26:56) Yeah. I didn't know what was happening last night until last night. I found out it was going on at like 10 o'clock. I was like, oh, shit. It looked great. Bought out Slick Rick, Busta, Cardi. Don, but again, I told y'all, once I saw that Made in America set. Speaker 3 (27:11) He bought out Teeza? I was Speaker 2 (27:13) about to say the first thing. Damn, he brought out Teezo. I would have loved to see Teezo. Speaker 8 (27:17) Salute to Teezo. Speaker 1 (27:18) That was at Barclays, though? Yeah. I hate that sound system in there, bro. I hate the sound system at Barclays. Speaker 8 (27:29) Do we think Travis Scott is hotter than Kanye West? Speaker 2 (27:32) Right now. September 7th, 2026. Nobody might Speaker 1 (27:35) know. Speaker 2 (27:36) Someone clearly Speaker 1 (27:37) thought that. Yeah, nah, man. Come on, bro. This nigga selling out. I mean, but Speaker 3 (27:40) that's... Being that they're so close, I'm cool with it. He's selling Speaker 1 (27:43) out stadiums in Speaker 2 (27:44) Albania. No, he sold out Albania. No, he sold the country out. None of you niggas can sell a ticket in Albania. What are we talking about right now? Kanye and Action Bronson are the Speaker 1 (27:55) only two people. Yeah, like what are y'all talking about? Like, number nine? I Speaker 3 (28:00) heard Ken Carson's music before, but a song doesn't pop to my head. Probably if I heard it, I would recognize it. And that's me failing as somebody who's supposed to talk about music. I know. Oh, my God. I need to do my job. Speaker 2 (28:11) Come on. Do your Googles. Yeah. But I can't think. You ain't got to do your Googles. It's not hot in here. The flowers be in there, though. I mean. Well, they fixed your notes. Your notes from last Speaker 3 (28:21) time was you wanted Don Toliver to be number one last year. That was what you wanted a couple months ago. And they fixed it. He's now number two, the only one hotter than him. Yeah, Speaker 1 (28:30) but don't give me my flowers now. I told y'all that at the top. I don't like late flowers. I told y'all that last year. You feel like you're