Episode 541 | Lotus Flower Bomb

New Rory & MAL

In Episode 541 of 'New Rory & MAL,' the hosts kick off with a lighthearted reunion after Mal's trip to LA, diving into personal anecdotes and playful banter. They then shift gears

Key takeaways

• The hosts challenge societal norms around emotional expression, particularly in men, advocating for acceptance of 'fanning out' when meeting influential figures from one's past.

Main topics

• Drake's 'ICEMAN' album success
• Critiques of 'The Odyssey' and 'Spider-Man: A Brand New Day'

Notable quotes

"I think that, yeah. You guys clown me for the Nas thing."

Conclusion

The episode blends personal storytelling with cultural commentary, cel

Transcript preview

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White folks have never allowed that reckoning to last more than a decade. Catch Roland Martin's daily commentary on the Black Information Network. And download Roland Martin Unfiltered on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, I got to say that again. Do it one more time. Hey, yo. Speaker 1 (2:56) I can't fake. No, I can't fake them. Maul, I miss you. I missed you. I miss you too, baby D. I feel like I was telling you you miss me. I did. How can you tell? Because you like, when I walk in, you roll your eyes at me. You know, like when a nigga was- She was like a high school crush? Yeah, like, like when you wore your best outfit and nigga didn't show up. Then you come the next day when you just in your like whatever gear and you like, nah, he want to come to school. You said Damaris was drippy on Monday? Yeah. Nah, not on Monday. She knew I was out. That's true, yeah. I knew you wasn't going to be there. You had a sick day. Speaker 1 (3:24) I wore, you know, sweats, ponytail. Yeah, yeah. Now you got it laid. Now it's laid for sure. You look great today. Thank you. Baby, you know how I like that hair laid down like that? She got up this morning and was like, I know how I more like the hair to lay on the side like that. With the part right there. Yeah, you know how I like the part right there. Her knowing that is hilarious. Speaker 1 (3:46) Yeah, man. What's up, Lamar? What's up, man? I'm back, man. Fresh from the left coast. I mean, you know. The left coast. You're a fucking weenie. I'm a loser. One of you guys is going to finally just like... You're a fucking loser. How long have we been doing this pod? You guys don't know I'm a fucking loser right now. Oh my God. I know. It's funny when you remind us. Yeah, man. What's been going on? You know, we've been podding. I've only been out for a day. Yeah, technically, because we had the E40 shit done already. Yeah, man. Which was great. Check out our E40 episode. Ryan was beside himself. The E40. That's the E40 over there. That's the E40 over there. That was cool. Speaker 1 (4:23) Yee 40. His cousin called him. His cousin was like, are you like a Make-A-Wish kid for New Roy and Maul? How'd you meet Yee 40? Make-A-Wish kid is fucking hilarious. Your cousin actually that? That's hilarious. That's funny. No, he works here. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Ryan was on Netflix. I mean, Yee 40. Yeah, oh my god. Yo, that picture? That picture's real too, which is funny. Can we just put it in the... At that picture. It was like when Amara grabbed my finger for the first time when she was born. That was how Ryan was just born when he met E-40 that day. His rebirth. That was the sickest handshake. Yo, Peach, how did you catch that, bro? That was his thizzle rebirth. Speaker 1 (5:07) Shout out to the legend E-40 for coming through, man. Gripping another man's thumb when you keep going for a handshake is crazy. Yeah, that's wild. That's the Bey shake. We don't know that. That's the Bey shake. Yeah, that might be the Bey shake. We weren't even supposed to see that. Yeah, that was like an inside thing. Like, okay, got it. But it was cool. I like watching Ryan talk to E-40. Speaker 1 (5:29) Yeah, that was dope. I think that type of shit is cool to see people. Being a young kid from the Bay. Yeah, and that's a big deal. Somebody who grew up, obviously, was a huge figure in the Bay in the 40s. Yeah. That was dope, man. I think that type of shit is cool. Yeah. I don't clown people for... No, no, no. I don't like the term fanning out because it comes across weird, but just meeting people that were really a big part of your childhood to me is cool. Why do we do that? Why do we make fanning out like a bad thing? Because he wasn't fanning out. He was just happy to like, yo, I get to see somebody that was such a pivotal part of my childhood. But what's wrong with fanning out? I always say that. It depends on who it is. I think if you're from the Bay and you finally meet E40, I think that's okay to fan out. Speaker 1 (6:07) Yeah, I got your dad's favorite rapper. You grew up obviously listening to him in the house. I think once you meet somebody like that and that's that that is like OK to fan out in that moment. I think we should stop like making fanning out such a bad thing. I understand men can't do anything. We can't like anything. We can't show any emotions and any love to anybody. Correct. I get that. But like, I think it's OK to fan out like over certain things and people. I've been saying that for 10 years and you guys clown me every time. Speaker 1 (6:37) that I do that. Well, we're going to clown you no matter what. I act like I've been there before, but I'm humble enough to be like, yo, this is a big deal for me to meet a certain person. I think that, yeah. You guys clown me for the Nas thing. I think it has to be an age gap. Telling somebody they changed their life and fanning out is completely different. Who told somebody they changed his life? He told Nas he changed his life. We were in the studio together, though, so it's fine. Weren't you in the studio next to him? I was working with Terrace Martin next door. Speaker 1 (7:04) Uh-huh. You know what? So you weren't in the studio together. No, no, no. Fuck all this. If we're going to try to clown me, let me know. Let's pick up some names. Let them have it. I was at Chalice Studios working on my first album with Terrace Martin. Who? Terrace Martin. The Grammy Award legendary. The incomparable. Yes. Terrace Martin. Yes. It was just me and Terrace Studios playing up some stuff. He did the key. You don't even call him Terrace. You call him T. I don't call him T. Mr. Martin. Speaker 1 (7:31) Hey, yo. Don't piss me off. He did some of the synth on See How This Thing Goes, which is now a classic record. Yes, come on. We know that. So I was texting with Hit-Boy already, and Hit-Boy's studio at the time was at Chalice. And he said, where you at? I said, I'm at Chalice already. He said, all right, come through. And didn't say what he was. He just said, come through. So I know where his studio is. So I walked down the hallway, and I opened the door, and it's just Nas and Hit-Boy. Speaker 1 (8:00) So they played me what was King Disease 2. They played you. They took time out of their schedule to play King Disease 2. You know I'm humble. But yes, they were like, oh, you want to hear some shit? I was like, of course. Yeah, why not? Then Lauren's voice came on. I was like, whoa, this is real? Come on now. Yeah, so I mean, you know. It was an intimate setting, just the three of us. So that's when you decided to just let Nasir know he changed your life. It was, I mean. Speaker 1 (8:26) In context, it was... No, listen, I understand. See, man, we can't see how we get all uncomfortable even telling this story. I think Baisley was there. There was a lot going on. Yeah, come on, man. A white man and his fluffy dog just randomly walked up to Nas. I can't remember if Bais was there for that one or not. Probably. I think Bais met Nas. Bais has done more L.A. trips than most people. Yeah, Bais met Nas. I can't wait to tell Nas. I named my son after you. I mean, Nas is just a great name in general. Wait, hold on, hold on. Baby D, what? I can't wait to tell Nas. I named my son after you. You don't have any kids. When it comes, his name will be Nasir. Oh, you're speaking it. Okay. Yeah. Would it be Nas or Nasir? Nasir. Nasir is a very pretty name. It's very pretty. Speaker 1 (9:09) We are back sponsored by Blue Mobile. Unlimited talk, text, and data. Well, how was your LA trip? LA was great, man. Did you meet anyone that changed your life? No. No. I didn't meet anybody that changed my life. Don't do that because you were at Sean's comedy show with somebody that changed my life. Did a lot for the redheaded community. Bill Burr. You saw Bill Burr. I didn't meet Bill Burr, but yes, Bill Burr was there. Telepathically, he was like, yo, you changed my life. Shout out to Sean, man. He's doing an incredible, incredible job. Damn, I forgot the name. What is it? What's the name of it? When You Left. After You Left. After You Left. After You Left comedy show in LA. Shout out to Sean Dickerson and his team. He has something really dope that he's building out there with that. Yeah. I mean, with Sean, you know, Sean is going to carry the room. Speaker 1 (9:59) We need it in New York. Yeah, he's going to put the right people in the room. It's at the vinyl room at the Palladium, but the vinyl room inside the Palladium. Incredible. Incredible what Sean is doing. Bill Burr was hilarious. The gentleman that went on before Bill Burr, I forgot his name. He was funny as hell too. But they're doing something dope, man. So Sean has another vibe, another event that he's building in LA that's incredible. The right people in the room, pretty women, cool guys. no id was there um changed my life listen man your life so easily swayed god damn i'm saying nas and no id i'm not bill burr i'm sorry three icons my bad that one light-skinned bitch from last lap like you so easily swayed well she changed my life for different reasons yeah she turned you into a man not being a man before last lap existed is crazy Speaker 1 (10:55) Well, sometimes you don't know that there's more manhood in you. There's more manhood to explore that's in you. But yeah, L.A. was dope. Explore that's in you. Yeah. I saw James Davis is hosting. Shout out to James Davis. Okay. Funny comedian. I saw Saha. Oh, yeah. Shout out to Saha, man. Listen, man, y'all know how I feel about Saha, man. He didn't change my life. Life changer. No, he didn't change my life, but I love Saha. No Dope on Sundays did something to you. But yeah, man, he said new album coming soon, man. I thought after he did the seven minute good music song and the two drops that we were doing a rollout. And you know, Saha is my guy and I'm a fan first. Yeah. Speaker 1 (11:36) I'm disappointed as a fan. I thought we were getting an album after that rollout. It was a cool rollout. It brought a lot of attention for the right reasons. He was rapping. I like clearances, samples. He said new album soon. That's all. As somebody who's really looking forward to that and who needs that type of rap, I can only hope that a new album from Saha is coming soon. If he was in LA, that makes me think, yeah. Because I think Saha at this point in his life just minds his business in Atlanta. If he's in LA, then... No, he was definitely out there working on his project. Speaker 1 (12:11) But he's been writing for a few artists. Obviously, I won't know names, but he's been busy. His pen is moving around. I'll pull up on my, you know, I got to pull up on my brother, Belly. Oh, where? How's Belly doing? He's great, man. He's great. You know, he's married, kid now. So, you know. Yeah. No, his wife is very sweet. Yeah, he's a different, he's a, he's still Belly, but, you know, it's just a different, it's a different Belly. He smokes outside now. Yeah. Speaker 1 (12:40) That's what I've noticed with fathers. We just smoke outside. That's what the... We were literally in the garage. The garage is now his... That's your room. That's what fatherhood is about. It's finding places for your vices that are not in the living room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to my guy, Belly. He plays some new music. He got a lot of things he's working on, man. It's funny. He mentioned something that was interesting. He was like, yo, listen, man. songs that I've written have well over 10 billion streams. Yes. And without question, he doesn't get called to write for anybody. Now he said why he thinks he doesn't get called. I won't go into that. Oh, that's what I would love to go into. We won't go into that. But it's just funny that an artist and a writer with the pen as incredible as belly. Speaker 1 (13:30) is not called to write for other artists as much as some of these other guys who don't have records that have streamed as much as the records Belly has written. Yeah, the stuff him and Weeknd have done together is... He wrote Blondin' Lights just for... For context? For context. He wrote Blinding Lights the weekend. You may have heard of it. When we were at his house, that plaque was like the size of the wall just because it needed that amount for the RIAA certification. And he doesn't get called to write for anybody. It's crazy, man. Well, you know, he's doing well. Is his price too high? Speaker 1 (14:02) No, that's not why he's not getting called. Album, 96 Miles from Bethlehem. Check it out when you ever get a chance. I didn't want to say it out loud, but he took a stand and listen, man. We support him. I'm on the same side of the stance that he took. So yeah, I can see that part. Yeah. I can definitely see that part. Incredible artist, but that's my brother. That's family, man. So I had to go see my guy. Yo, Lamar was in full effect. Demarius, remember Lamar? I love Lamar. It's been a long time since even like our last few L.A. shows, you weren't really in like Lamar Lamar fashion because we would go in like December. It would be it wouldn't really be like in and out. Yeah. Summer Lamar. But I wasn't really I was with Sean. That's like, come on, that's fam. You just name 17 people you see. OK. And Belly lives like an hour outside of L.A. Speaker 1 (14:54) That's family. Don't do that. You started to get like, Rory, that's family shit. This can't keep us apart. You know that. Come on, man. This doesn't keep family apart. You know that. Saha, when I was checking in, he was checking out. We literally bumped into each other. Does that really count? Like, I didn't go hang out with Saha. Like, we literally was staying at the same hotel. Okay. So that's like, it was just a happy accident. Like, oh shit, my God. You know what I'm saying? And then everybody else you ran into when you was at Sean's event. Then you go to a wedding? After you left, yes. Did you meet anybody there? No. Speaker 1 (15:27) Love was in the air, though. Yeah, love was in the air. I mean, it was a beautiful ceremony. Did you dance with anyone? Cut up a rug? No, it was more like a bike kind of vibe. It wasn't really like a one-on-one like while Luther was playing. I ain't getting into that. Oh, okay. But yeah, I mean, he was doing a little two-step. Yeah, a little groove. In the same circle as... A little mocktail. You had a little mocktail? No, I had wine. Hey. I had wine. Oh, I also went to... A little Cabernet? Shout out to Anderson .Paak. His spot, Andy's. Cool vibe. Speaker 1 (15:55) Live music. Nice to vibe. You sound like me right now. This is crazy. Mom's everywhere, bro. No, no, no. Anderson, no. The Andy spot, y'all would love that. Well, you know my favorite restaurant is his on Ventura. I can never pronounce it. Sorry, Ryan. I don't want to butcher it. But it's a great Asian restaurant. Yeah. No, Andy's though, that spot is a complete vibe in there. No, Anderson Paak has the restaurant game one. That's his shit. Yeah, no, that was a cool night. Live music. Was he DJing? No, he wasn't there, but it was, you know, it was still a vibe in there, though. We had a good time. What's his DJ alter ego again? Speaker 1 (16:34) DJ Peewee. Yeah, DJ Peewee was not in it. Peewee wasn't in it? No, he wasn't in it, but he was other things. It was Peewee Kirkland. Yeah. That's one thing LA, I don't want to say LA does better than New York because nobody does like the vibe better than New York, but LA with the like live music kind of restaurant, you're in a restaurant, but they have like the live music playing and like the aesthetics are really good. Like I think they do that well. I think when New York, we've had it before, but. Speaker 1 (17:01) the space kind of fucks with it because even some of our best restaurants are a closet so it's tough to get that vibe off yeah because the bigger restaurants that could do it aren't Tao's not going to do it so yeah you have to find yeah LA does that much better no if you're in if you're in LA go to Andy's like it's like a 70s 80s vibe in there the aesthetics live music it's definitely worth like if you want to go out and just you know you know it's not really like you don't want to really club But like you want to go out and hear some music and you know people are there. It's a dance floor. Speaker 1 (17:34) Oh, people was cutting. People were. Yeah, yeah. No, it was a vibe. Like, I was in there like, I was just like, oh, shit. Like, okay, this is my type of shit. You would go out if you had shit like that here. 100%. I'd also, and forgive me, I forgot the name of it, that Sean ironically took me to as well. I think it was off Crenshaw. It was like the jazz soul food restaurant that just opened with the live music. Yeah, you're right. L.A. does have that shit, and we just don't. We need more of that. Yeah, but it was a great time though, man. Weather was great. Speaker 1 (18:02) It was a good time, man. Shout out to everybody in L.A. My family and friends I ain't seen in a minute. It was a good time. You was in an Uber. No, I was just, you know, catching up with people, man. You know what I mean? While I was there. That sounds like you could have just told the Uber driver, like, what's your rate for the night? Oh, no, I wasn't. It was never that. You moving around that much, I might as well. No, all of this wasn't in one night. Like, I'm the hell. No, this wasn't that. I got twisted. No, I ain't gonna lie. I went to Andy's. Really? Speaker 1 (18:29) That's crazy. Ma go out of town, get drunk with people that ain't us. No, listen, listen, because Trev was with me. Shout out to my boy Trev, Trev Ariza. We went out. Another one, man. And am I dropping a lot of names? But that's family. That don't count. Trev ain't nobody. Fuck Trev. Nah, that's my family. Anderson Paak's family too. That's why you went to the restaurant. I don't know Anderson. I've never met Anderson Paak in my life. But no, so we got a bottle of red wine. Fan. He was tore up. Oh my God. I might've slept for 13 hours, bro. We went through a whole bottle. Whoa, a red wine? Me and Damaris could do that in 10 minutes. Nah, I ain't gonna lie. A whole bottle of red wine with two people, you'll be fucked up. Red illusion. I'm talking about... Yo, I was so... Because Nick was with us too. The next day he called me, he was like, yo, bro. Nick Grant? Speaker 1 (19:16) That's family. This is all family, guys. This is not... This is nasty, man. This is family, though. Come on, this is family. This is not like... You know what I mean? This is who I'll be with. We should have strapped a mic to you and had Ryan follow you. Yo, yo. This is family, man. This is family. But I was... I'm not going to lie. I haven't been... I haven't drank that much red wine in one night in a very long time. Okay. But it was Andes. So it was like, you know, when you're in Andes, you got to... You know, you got to do the thing. Speaker 1 (19:42) when you're in an Andy's. Everyone knows that. Yeah, everybody knows that. Everyone listening to us, we all know that when you're in an Andy's. Well, no, I don't know if that's your thing. Cool, I'm not into that. I feel like that type of place, somebody did it. Oh, no, I saw them doing it. Oh, okay. That's why I'm like, that's the thing. No, no, they were definitely doing it. Not a DJ Pee-wee spot. Yeah, they were definitely doing it, but no, I was red wine and, you know. Speaker 1 (20:06) Thank you, Nick, for getting me back to my hotel safely because I was twisted. I would have loved to see that. I've never seen Maul drunk. I was just sleeping. I was just sleeping in the car. Your mouth was open? Probably. Yeah, I was asleep. I was done. Woke up, my sneakers was inside my jeans. You know when you get undressed like that? Shit right there on the floor. I'm like, yeah. I know that feeling. Somehow your drawers made it down there too. Yeah, I shook my jeans out, sneakers hit the window. I was like, oh shit. Speaker 1 (20:33) I was like, yeah, man. That was a drug. When you're trying to pack, like, where is my, oh, it's in my pants. It's in my pants. I was like, all right, man, whatever, man. But, you know, it was worth it, man. I had a good time. I know you had a headache when you woke up. You ain't used to that. No, it wasn't that bad, though. Like, it definitely was. You feel like you were in that, you know, that cloud where you like, everything's moving slow. But that wasn't a headache, though. It was just more like, I need to drink water all day. It was that type of feeling. Red wine hangovers do suck, though. So that is good. Yeah. Anytime I've ever blacked out, it was from drinking a whole bottle of red wine. I used to drink red wine when I was doing my homework in school. Speaker 1 (21:02) And I would black out after a bottle of red wine. Black out? Black out. I wouldn't remember. I wouldn't like, I wouldn't remember. I just wouldn't remember the night. Okay. Like I wouldn't remember. And I would just wake up like, what the fuck happened? Yeah. That's why I stopped drinking red wine. All right. Well, glad you got off that horse, baby D. Glad you turned your life around. At the, I mean, even at like my peak. alcoholic stages. I don't know if I ever blacked out. There'd be parts of the night I'd be like, oh, you had to remind me about that. I don't think I've ever blacked out. Literally black. You don't remember? I don't know what happened. That's why when people say that, I'll be like, I've been drunk before, but I remember what happened last night. Anybody want to tell me? I don't need no reminders. I know exactly what happened. Speaker 1 (21:51) I may not have been able to react in the moment as fast as I wanted to, but I remember what happened. Ain't nobody going to be like, yo, they came in and they, nobody came in here. Stop lying. Give me my money, nigga. I'm crying. Give me my money. Stop playing with me. Nobody came in last night. Nah, I literally, I've, you know, I've been toe up, toe up from the flow up off liquor. I remember everything. But when I used to drink like red wine and drinking in excess, that's the only time I'll be like, I don't remember what happened. I stopped when somebody I was intimate with told me that we were intimate that night and I was like, what? I did not remember anything. I was safe. It was consensual. Somebody I had slept with before, but I did not remember. I did not remember that and I was like, oh, I will never do that