Ron Morrett and Michael Wann | The City of Light and Dark, Cathedral Energies, and Signs of The Times

My Family Thinks I'm Crazy

In this episode, host Mystic Mark and co-corhost Mike Wann interview Ron Morrett about his recent travels through Europe. The conversation f

Key takeaways

• Ron Morrett identifies Turin as a key node in the 'Black Triangle' ley line connection alongside London and San Francisco.
• The discussion highlights the presence of a well-known statue in Turin often referred to as the Statue of Satan.

Main topics

• Occult significance of Turin
• The Black Triangle ley lines

Notable quotes

Stay legit, take your shilajit.

Conclusion

The episode offers an esoteric deep-dive into how historical architect

Transcript preview

Speaker 2 (0:00) My Family Thinks I'm Crazy, a podcast where I, your host, try to give you some tips on how you can explain all this weird, wild, crazy conspiracy stuff to the people you love most. Because that's what I've been trying to do for the past 10 years with no success. Speaker 2 (0:42) want to listen they don't want to hear it they're just like oh here we go mark off again with you yeah yeah so you know that's the thing about podcasts is you're on the air and it's like therapy you know if i can't talk to my family about this stuff i'll talk about today man Speaker 2 (1:22) Now listening to the My Family Thinks I'm Crazy podcast. I'm your host, Mystic Mark. Thank you for tuning in and enjoy this conversation with Ron Morritt and my part-time co-host, Mike Wan. Speaker 3 (1:58) Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the My Family Thinks I'm Crazy podcast. And joining me to co-host this episode is our friend, your handbook from the apocalypse, Susquehanna alchemist, the gypsy king himself, Michael Wan. Joining me to talk to our good friend, who you hear about every single episode because he... Not only a great guest and someone who I'm very excited to talk to, but he's also our longest running sponsor with his Vibe Med X, your number one source for Shilajit, the highest quality Shilajit in the market. So stay legit, get your Shilajit from Ron. Welcome, Ron. Happy to have you back on the show. Vibe Med X, something I talk about every episode. You had to get that out front and center. And thanks again for supporting the show with Live.X. It's awesome. Speaker 5 (2:57) Yeah, absolutely, Mark. I'm so excited to be back on your show. With special guest Mike Wan. I mean, that just makes my whole day. I didn't know he's a surprise guest for me as well. And he's one of my favorite people. And one of my favorite people in the space as well. He's so knowledgeable and brings such a dynamic twist to this matrix that we're all seemingly in a battle with. You know what I mean? So thank goodness he's here to help steer the ship today. And I'm excited to get going. Speaker 4 (3:25) Ron, when Mark told me, when he told me, when he threw out the idea, he was like, what if you came on the show? I'm having Ron today. I was like, oh, this is perfect. And it was perfect because there's a question which I have. And if you've ever been at the point where like, I should have asked that question a long time ago. And now it's weird that I don't ask the question now. Like you think it's past because it's... The timing. So I'm going to ask it right now. I don't know. Is it is it Shilajit or is it Shilajit? Like, I never know what to say. Like, well, if I were in if I were in the Himalayas, the Himalayans, and I was asking for what would I say? What would the locals say? Speaker 5 (4:09) Well, that's a great question, because people often ask that question and they don't know. And the answer is really it can be both. I've heard it both ways. I don't know if there is a right or wrong answer. But I know if you went to the Himalayas or the Altai Mountains of Russia. you may become a Shilajit drug lord or something like that. I would assume that you'd go there and come back with the supply for me and have things running smoothly. But it's Shilajit, I say it, but I've heard many people say Shilajit. So maybe it depends where you come from. So I don't know that there's a wrong answer there, my friend. Speaker 4 (4:37) Mark, you dropped both pronunciations in the intro to Ron. Where do you weigh in on it? Speaker 3 (4:45) Well, that's why I say both, so that people know what I'm talking about. Because who knows how they first heard it. And also. It sounds Speaker 4 (4:54) French. Speaker 3 (4:56) Yeah. Speaker 5 (4:56) Well, if you want to be sexy, you go. You know what I mean? Or, you know. Yeah. But Speaker 4 (5:02) it doesn't feel right for me. I'll be quite honest. Is she legit like that? That's how it rolls off my tongue. But Speaker 5 (5:07) that's the American twang. Yes. It's the Speaker 4 (5:10) American twang. I twang that up. Speaker 5 (5:12) Yeah. But if you want to be sexy, go. All day long. Speaker 3 (5:16) From my many years as a salesman, I realized that when you can make something rhyme, you can get it stuck in people's heads. So I say, stay legit, take your shoe legit, or some variation of that, right? And it just helps me remember what I'm saying, because I don't write anything down. The ad reads off the top of my head, and I think Ron is one of the few. supporters who doesn't mind. Most advertisers are like, read this script, please. And I never do. So anyways, all that aside, Ron. Speaker 4 (5:55) No, Mark, I got to jump on what you just said. Do you know, or this is a question, this is a qualifying question right now. Do you know what the OJ Simpson murder trial is? Like in the history of the things that happened before 9-11, do you know that, are you familiar with kind of like the general gist of it? Speaker 3 (6:12) The glove. Doesn't fit. Didn't really quit. Speaker 4 (6:15) That's it. That's it. Like to your point, exactly. Like that hypnotized the entire world. Like he just like made a rhyme. He made a rhyme and like the entire world was like, fuck it rhymes. Speaker 5 (6:27) It's gotta be, it's gotta be. I can't argue Speaker 4 (6:29) with that. That's right. It rhymes. Speaker 3 (6:33) Hey, yeah. I used to sell bread and I would come up with all kinds of sales pitches that included rhymes and. We always had a long line at the farmer's market. I Speaker 5 (6:45) took my shoe legit so you cannot acquit. It is what it is. Speaker 3 (6:50) See, that one even works with the one you said. All Speaker 4 (6:55) right. So I know there's some really interesting things which I want to hear from Ron today. And I was hoping we could kind of like... Speaker 3 (7:04) Here's the thing. Ron needs to understand one thing first. When I have Mike Warren on as a co-host, He's going to interrupt me and I'm going to interrupt him. Let's just part how we're going to cross-examine you as our witness. Speaker 5 (7:18) Well, I can tell you this. A lot of people don't know that Mike Wan has spent a lot of time here at The Rock, where I live. And so I am used to his cross-examination and all of his shenanigans. So I am prepared today. I'm so glad because now nothing that I prepared for matters for the show. I'm just going to go with the flow and we'll see where this madness takes us. Speaker 3 (7:39) Well, and that's the thing. There are interesting points that I've gathered, and I do want to get to those, but we don't have to get to them in any certain order. As Mike knows, we sort of just go with the flow, as we talked about at the beginning of the show. So you recently went on a trip to a place that... to me, is the most fascinating thing we could talk about considering what Mike generally researches. So maybe we start there and see where it takes us. You want to tell us a little bit about your trip to Turin? Speaker 5 (8:19) Totally, totally. So funny enough, it was last year we did an event here in Pennsylvania. Mike was there, Shilla Jam. which stems from Shilajit and the whole experience that I've had in my life. And so I created this wonderful festival called Shilajam. I did that. And then I took off to Europe for pretty much the summer into the fall, give or take. I don't know. I was there for several months. And I ended up going to Italy. And so I'm a big fan, like all of us here on the show, and probably a lot of people watching on rabbit holes of all different natures. So I ended up going to Europe. I'm in Greece, which is wonderful. I go to Italy for several weeks and I go on to about 20 cities, give or take. But I start out in Turin and that was an unexpected kind of stop. We had some friends there. We went and posted up. And so I'm getting to Italy, you know, and it's amazing because it's Italy. So it's wonderful. But from our lens, from a kind of a rabbit hole perspective, Turin in particular really showed a bit of everything that I wasn't expecting. in any way. So, and then it's funny, because I asked Mike about this. I remember I let him know that I was going to tour, and he was like, oh, that's where the Illuminati set up shop, you know, and I'm like, ah, and I get there, and that's really the case from my perspective anyways, but you could see it everywhere. And what was wild was seeing the kind of the stronghold of Satan himself. It seemed to me, with evidence to back it up, that this is where Satan started shop, maybe in this realm. So what was fascinating, I think that's what you're talking about, is there is literally a statue of Satan in the middle of Turin, Italy. It's well known and well regarded as a city of black magic. It's built on ley lines, all these satanic statues and Masonic imagery. So it was really mind blowing to see. Like I had no idea that that was going to come. And so there's also the Shroud of Turin is there as well. Let Speaker 4 (10:21) me ask you a quick question about that statue before you go into it. So the statue, can you give me like some context, like how big was it? And like, what was the pose? What like, what was the feeling someone would get if they were to see it? Was it like a empowered position, a weak position? Yeah. Yeah. So Speaker 5 (10:41) I'll tell you this. And I don't remember the exact story of, you know, the historic exacts of it, but it's Speaker 4 (10:46) a Speaker 5 (10:46) large statue. I mean, it's not the size of it's probably. It's not the Statue of Liberty height, but it's pretty big. It's significant. And it's built on top of some significant mound, some significant holy site. You know what I mean? Like, you know, they often do, they cover something up. So Satan, you know, started his presence there. Well, I think I lost the screen. Yeah, I'm still there. Speaker 4 (11:10) Mark's pulling Speaker 5 (11:10) up Speaker 4 (11:10) the picture. Speaker 5 (11:11) Oh, perfect, perfect, perfect. Yeah, so there it is. So it looks like. The Statue of Liberty. Can you Speaker 4 (11:16) zoom in on that picture, Mark? Because I'm in a little bit of disbelief right now. Speaker 5 (11:21) So you know how we kind of have a feeling that the Statue of Liberty is literally Satan? Well, this is the same thing over there. It looks like Satan. It has the five-star crown. I mean, it's a statue. Is it called Speaker 4 (11:33) Satan? Do they actually call it that? Speaker 5 (11:37) It's called something else. Speaker 5 (11:41) Specifically, but it's known as the Statue of Satan. Everyone looks at it, they're like, okay, all right. It's well known throughout Turin and northern Italy that this is the Statue of Satan, that this area is full of black magic, and it's a stronghold for black magic itself. And it's built on ley lines that go from Turin to London to San Francisco. It's called the Black Triangle. And that is what I'm saying. What Speaker 4 (12:08) are the three points of this Speaker 5 (12:09) black triangle? London and San Speaker 4 (12:12) Francisco. And Torin. And Torin, yes. London, San Francisco, and Torin. Okay. All right. That's a, Speaker 5 (12:22) wow. Okay. Speaker 4 (12:23) Okay. Okay. Speaker 5 (12:24) It's the Black Triangle. And it's literally, so then I was, so now imagine this, we're being driven around by a friend and he's telling us these stories. And I'm like, what the fuck? You know, now. What stories is Speaker 4 (12:34) he telling you? Like stories of actual like events? He's Speaker 5 (12:39) telling Speaker 4 (12:39) me. He's revealing, like, let me tell you about this town, which they don't put in the Wikipedia page. Yeah, Speaker 5 (12:45) and he's proud of it. He looks at it through a Matrix person kind of lens. He thinks these things are just the historical significance of these structures. Speaker 4 (12:55) And I'm like, Speaker 5 (12:57) do you know what you're saying? I remember looking at my wife, Carolina. I'm like, what? And then I started looking through stuff. And I found, as I looked through, like, you know, just the who's who in Torrent. I look for Satan and there are hundreds and hundreds of people with the last name Satan. Say that again Speaker 4 (13:14) slowly. You were looking for a who's who in Torrid, and you were like looking for Satan. Like you were going through the list of all the names, and you're like, oh, he's got to be listed. Is it going to be under? Okay. And he is. Speaker 5 (13:27) So like Lorenzo Satan, the accountant, you know, Antonio Satan, he's an orthodontist. I mean, everywhere in Torrid, you can find someone with the last name Satan. I can tell you this. I did more research then because I was fascinated. So in the 80s and 90s, they had to start locking up cemeteries because people, Satanists, were robbing bodies and bones for their ceremonies. And they had to start locking Speaker 4 (13:52) things up. So I got a question. I got to jump in. So in the context of the language, in the linguistics of Italian, when they have the last name of Satan, like what does that mean? Like in that culture, do you know that? Speaker 5 (14:07) I don't know. I don't know. I was kind of blindsided by all this. And this was the beginning of my Italy trip. So it really it really blew me away. But it was a quick hit. Like I was like, oh, shit, this is interesting. And I'm going to put this, you know, in the back burner for later for things like this. But so also so there's Satan. And then so it's interesting from the perspective of a local who has been there as an educated local. an Italian, who was just taking us on tours and showing us this magnificent city. You know what I mean? And so you know that I like, you know, cathedrals and old world architecture because, you know, for many reasons. But so that's littered in Europe, obviously. But in Turin, this guy's giving me a tour and showing me old world architecture. And everywhere we go, you know, the first floor, the first level of these buildings are. 20 feet high. And I'm like, why are the ceilings so high? And he's like, well, because the kings wanted everything built that way because they were kingly and that's what they wanted. So from us, I'm like, well, if you look at this through our lens, this is all made for giants. The first floor are made for giants. The second and third and fourth floors are all normal human people size. It was just so wild and clear to see giant doors everywhere. I mean, and I told the story on Sam Tripoli. Then I went to Florence at some point. And in the. Hold on, before you go to Florence, I got to dig in a Speaker 4 (15:31) little bit deeper. Speaker 5 (15:31) I'll keep going. So I'm glad you're here to stop. Speaker 4 (15:33) Mark hasn't even had a chance, but I'd love to hear these stories. Let me ask you this one question. It'll be quick for you to answer it. And then Mark can hop in. All these giant doors. Yeah. If you were to look like, like higher up than like human height, like let's say the giant tour is 20 feet, like 10 feet up where you would think a 10 foot tall giant's hand would reach for the, the, the, the doorknob. Was there any indication? Was there anything within the architecture of the door that would indicate that that would be a location of, of a, of a hand of a doorknob for giants? Speaker 5 (16:10) It was all built for giants. I mean, the door knockers were giant lions. They were, you know, they were 13 feet up. And there was a great other picture. Like everything was built like that. Like, look, that's a giant. So that's everywhere. Like that's literally everywhere throughout. So northern Italy is more, you know, wealthy Illuminati base. Like you could see that that's where the wealth and the beginning started to take shape in Italy, at least. And I think for the entire Europe and maybe this whole realm. Speaker 5 (16:39) But yeah, the doors were gigantic. Everything was just crazy. Everything was just crazy if you look at it through our lens. So that really got my trip kick-started. And yeah, there is that picture of Satan again. It's just wild to see. Speaker 4 (16:53) Holy shit, the body's on the rock below. I want to add to or support or bolster the point you just made about northern Italy. Um, so it was, I believe it was this past winter where they had the winter games in Northern, in Northern Italy. And if you go back and you look on, I think that the winter games began sometime in like the, the middle of, um, of January. And then they overlapped with like the world economic forum event in Davos, which was very close to it. And then right before that, there was a huge, like, it was like just a blurb and was on the, on the winter solstice, but, um, in a ski town in, um, in. in the Alps in Switzerland, which is all in the same stretch. They're different countries, but this is like 100 miles apart, same area. And like this, no, it was New Year's Eve and a nightclub burnt down and like 100 people perished in it. Like this is Illuminati level sort of like the way the ritual or way the game is played is done that way in that area. Like if you're paying attention, it's all around you. Speaker 5 (18:14) Yeah, it really is. So it was amazing for me to kind of see that and experience that, you know, knowing the rabbit holes that I enjoy going down and to see it firsthand. So really spectacular. And then to kind of bring it back and share it with people, because all of us go down these rabbit holes. We're all aware of them. But when you see them in person and get to spend that much time like I did, and that was just the beginning. I mean, I went to cathedrals all throughout Greece and Italy. in some of the most remote regions you could ever find. And I'm just blown away by what's out there. What do you feel like to be there? You know, it's interesting because if you're here in the States and a lot of our friends, a lot of your audience, a lot of my audience, we all have an understanding and a belief, at least what they tell us we know is incorrect. We know that there's something off. And, you know, there's so many theories that we all, you know, subscribe to, you know, founded buildings, old world stuff, all that tartaria. And it's great to see it and have an understanding. But when you live it and then you get to live it for months and months and months. So I'm so grateful and blessed that I can do that. I can travel the world and my fun is going to cathedrals and visiting places like this. So to be able to immerse myself in it is is really next level because then it just validates. what we already kind of know. We already have a sense. We already have a knowing within us. But then when you can experience it, it really rounds it all off. And I'll tell you what else I did. I actually rented a cathedral in Rome. I stayed. It became an Airbnb in a cathedral that was founded or found or built, whatever it was in the 1600s. I rented that place and I stayed in it. So it was like it was almost like. Dracula's Airbnb. I mean, it was like a king-sized bed that was two king beds in the rafters of this cathedral that I had all to myself, which was really spectacular and eerie, but also really wonderful. Speaker 3 (20:22) I pulled up some photos, you know, when you use San Francisco, London, and Turin, and I think your facial expression and we both kind of like, we're like, huh? You know, cause those are, you know, we make maps on this show. Mike makes a ton of maps on his channel. Like a triangle between those three cities just seems odd, but then you go and you look it up and sure enough. This is something people are talking about. Look at this. I found a few examples of maps already pre-made. Here's a black triangle going across that area. But then I found another one in Spanish with some... Speaker 3 (21:09) explanations in Spanish as to what is going on here. Speaker 5 (21:13) Ah, so that's, is that, yeah, so that triangle continues. I did see them talk about, what is that, Lima and Prague as well? What is one of those three, the bottom one? Speaker 3 (21:24) Lone and Praga. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 5 (21:27) Oh, that's the white triangle. So that's the balance of good and evil. So that is the white triangle. There's a black magic triangle and a white triangle of light. So that's the balance. So what's interesting is Turin gives you the balance. It's like the yin and yang. It's like it sets up this realm for the duality that we all experience. That was the magic of that space. That's why the shroud's there. That's why Satan's there. It's like everything's there. And that's the battleground, really, for this realm and our souls in many ways. And that's what's talked about there. And it's talked about openly and knowingly. It's common knowledge and understanding. That's the epicenter for the struggle. Speaker 3 (22:09) Yeah. Wow. And here's another interesting diagram on a map. Speaker 4 (22:19) The epicenter of the