Ep 635 - Podcaster's Union (feat. Kevin Ryan & H. Foley)

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Matt and Shane welcome the comedy duo Kippy and Hank (H. Foley) to discuss their new special 'American Garbage,' podcast dynamics, personal

Key takeaways

• Fame brings unexpected recognition even in mundane settings like airports.
• Personal boundaries are challenging to maintain, especially for those with a history of conflict or emotional openness.

Main topics

• Comedy careers and fame
• Personal boundaries and emotional maturity

Notable quotes

"If you don't say no, your yes is worthless."

"I'm living in Ian's basement. It's like fucking... You're the dog."

Conclusion

The episode ends with lighthearted camaraderie and excitement for the upco

Transcript preview

Speaker 3 (0:00) Wow, wow, Wes. Speaker 2 (0:01) Hey! We're here. Are you guys hot? Let me know if you're hot. I can turn on the air. No, Speaker 3 (0:08) I'm good. I love how right away you're like, it's on you, go. Well, Speaker 2 (0:11) I'm just saying because it was cool in here, but I knew when we'd enter, we were like negative ice cubes. Very true. We've all warmed this space significantly. We're like those Speaker 3 (0:19) heat rocks. Cook a steak on us. Speaker 2 (0:22) The heat's wild down here. I don't know how you deal with it. I like the heat. The cold is I get like when I don't feel a sun for like five months, I get real weird. And I just it's not good for me. Speaker 4 (0:31) I Speaker 2 (0:32) do. I get I get sad. Are you laughing at my seasonal affective disorder? My seasonal affective disorder. My vitamin D is low. I'm a survivor for Speaker 1 (0:40) 40 years Speaker 2 (0:40) of seasonal affective disorder. I'm not Speaker 3 (0:42) laughing at it. I'm laughing at it. You are. You're someone who I admire in the sense of, you know. what 100 % is not good for you. You end a lot of sentences. That's just not good for me. You Speaker 4 (0:51) know Speaker 3 (0:52) what I mean? So I respect it. We're talking about Speaker 2 (0:55) boundaries. Yeah. I respect it. I Speaker 4 (0:57) like it. Speaker 2 (0:58) Do you ever try to draw a boundary? I don't think it ever works. I've never done one ever. It's so foreign to me. I Speaker 3 (1:04) know. Speaker 2 (1:05) It's so foreign to me. I've tried, but I always take it back. As soon as it leaves my mouth, I'm like, Speaker 3 (1:09) ah, Speaker 2 (1:10) never mind. You know what? I'm never going to stand. I Speaker 4 (1:12) wouldn't Speaker 3 (1:12) know what one Speaker 4 (1:13) is. Speaker 3 (1:14) You Speaker 2 (1:14) know what I mean? Speaker 4 (1:14) You can say or do anything with bees, lay in the bed, whatever you want. It's insane. Speaker 2 (1:19) Yeah, I prefer to stew. Yeah. I let people cross Speaker 4 (1:22) over my boundaries and I go, no Speaker 3 (1:24) respect Speaker 2 (1:25) at all for me. I guess I'm a piece of shit. And then I just, hey, how you doing? That's my boundaries. Hey, what's up? You want to get breakfast? That's Speaker 3 (1:33) what I was doing Speaker 2 (1:33) with him this morning in my head. We've worked on that a little bit. I swear to Speaker 4 (1:37) God, dude. We had a quiet flight down here. Did you really? Yeah. What happened? We're setting boundaries a little bit. I'm, Speaker 3 (1:43) I'm, Speaker 4 (1:44) this is so Speaker 3 (1:45) fine. I don't know. It's like, is there a leak in our organization that was like, ask about boundaries. Speaker 4 (1:51) You Speaker 3 (1:51) guys got the fucking TMZ scoop. He's fucking, they, they don't look smart, but they're good. These guys. Well, to Speaker 2 (1:58) be Speaker 3 (1:58) fair, I've watched Speaker 2 (1:59) you guys fight since like 2004. That's true. That's true. 100%. It's Speaker 3 (2:05) no secret. Speaker 1 (2:06) There's no leak. Speaker 3 (2:08) That's Speaker 4 (2:08) how Speaker 3 (2:08) stupid I am. I'm like, man, these. You Speaker 2 (2:11) guys Speaker 3 (2:11) are good. Who you guys been fucking talking to? Meanwhile, you've seen us have each other in headlocks outside of the Raven Lounge. The enigma's going next. It's funny. Looking back on it, it was like the stuff Speaker 4 (2:24) we used to argue about was so cute and adorable. It's so funny. Now it's serious Speaker 3 (2:28) business. Yeah. I say that to him sometimes. He's like, I don't ever want to fight again. I go, we used to argue over YouTube videos that got 100 views. Like, of course, things Speaker 4 (2:37) are going to be tense now. He's grown up a lot. I'll give him that. That's nice. He has grown up a lot. He kind of stinks as a hang, but he's grown up. Oh, yeah. You're a real fucking peach. Let me tell you. I went the other way. Speaker 1 (2:49) Really? Speaker 3 (2:50) Oh, man. Speaker 4 (2:50) It's crazy. Speaker 3 (2:51) I mean, it's crazy how bad of a hang he is. Speaker 4 (2:54) You got the family, kids, all that kind of stuff. He's got to, like, prioritize this, that, the other thing. Things mean more. And I'm living in Ian's basement. It's like fucking... You're Speaker 2 (3:02) the dog. You're the dog. The family gets to shoot in the crate. Yeah, because he keeps shitting everywhere. Speaker 3 (3:06) And you're Speaker 2 (3:06) like, Speaker 3 (3:07) dude, it's like, dude, we paid $2,000 for fucking training. That didn't take. You know, you're trying to help by fighting Speaker 4 (3:13) people at the park. Speaker 2 (3:14) Yeah, how do you guys coordinate that? Me and Shane have the same thing. I have a kid. He doesn't, but he's pretty gracious. Yeah, he's also fucking... A millionaire. Fucking one of the most famous comics on the planet. Even Speaker 4 (3:25) more the reason. I'm middle of the road. Walking around like I'm a movie star. Drives them fucking nuts. Speaker 3 (3:31) Dude, he got spotted by one of our bullies at the airport. You did. When? He thinks he's very famous. He really, we started, I go, you are Johnny Drama. Speaker 4 (3:42) He is. I don't think I'm famous. I have an audience. Speaker 4 (3:47) Did I do a good performance this season on tires? Yeah, sure. Of course. Has that Speaker 3 (3:52) gone to your head immensely? Yes. Speaker 2 (3:56) You got recognized at the airport. No. Our boy saw him. Kevin, take a picture of us. Speaker 4 (4:04) The guy's like, can Kippy get in? He's like, no, no, Speaker 3 (4:06) no. What are we talking about? On the plane? When Colin saw you. No, there's a lot. No. When Colin Chamberlain saw you. Oh, that Speaker 4 (4:14) fucking rat. Speaker 3 (4:15) Forget about that. Dude, our Speaker 4 (4:15) boy, our main opener. Our boy, Colin Chamberlain. Our boy is on a road with us. He's Kippy's boy. Speaker 3 (4:20) They bumps us. He really makes a lot of delineation. They Speaker 4 (4:23) all rat me Speaker 3 (4:23) out. Speaker 4 (4:23) They all rat me out. Really? Oh, forget about it. Dude, rat. They know who daddy is. You kidding me? Speaker 1 (4:31) They Speaker 4 (4:32) know who writes the checks. That's what you think Speaker 3 (4:34) it is. No, you're also a comedian. Dude, he's walking around Delta. He's walking around the terminal. He's got no luggage. Hold on a second. Speaker 4 (4:40) I sort of seen a young lady lives in Cleveland. All right. I've been going back and forth a little bit. Yeah, yeah. I had an audition coming up. I had the sides of my back pocket. I checked my bag. It's like a Friday afternoon. I'm flying out to Cleveland. Speaker 3 (4:51) All these details aside, he's walking around the fucking airport with sunglasses on it and a movie script in his back pocket. And Speaker 2 (4:57) you're going to sit there and tell me you don't like being fucking recognized. Speaker 4 (5:01) And Colin comes up to us, he's talking to me normal. Hey, don't get to see Speaker 2 (5:05) it. Speaker 4 (5:05) That's insane, right? Speaker 2 (5:07) What are you talking about? Get a director's chair on show. I had to memorize my Speaker 4 (5:12) lines for a goddamn audition. That you didn't get. I turned it down. I didn't like the script. Speaker 3 (5:18) Dude, my head hurts already. You got to Speaker 4 (5:20) say no a little bit, boys. You know what I'm saying? That makes it point even more. If you don't say no, your yes Speaker 2 (5:26) is worthless. Speaker 4 (5:27) Yeah, that's great. I'm done with auditions. I'll tell you that right now. Speaker 2 (5:33) I did one against that very wall. So I did an audition and I've only done one audition. Anything, they'll send me. I did one audition and the only reason I did it because in this one instance, I happened to know through like a family connection that the producer was like loosely related to my family. So I'm like, here we go. I'm in. Nepo baby. Speaker 1 (5:55) Full nepo baby. Speaker 3 (5:58) Send us in. Because someone in your family tree knows a guy. It's like three Speaker 2 (6:03) degrees of separation, but we met once. I'm like, bro, he's going to see my name and tap me up. The big leagues. The big Speaker 4 (6:09) leagues. What are you talking about? You're in the big leagues. You're in the Speaker 2 (6:12) big leagues. Speaker 4 (6:14) What was it? Speaker 2 (6:14) Tulsa King? What were you reading for? I denied Tulsa King recently. The one that just came out about the guy behind the door? Yeah, I forget. It was something. I got some Tulsa. No, no, mine was maybe Landman. It was one of those like constipated old man shows. Speaker 3 (6:26) Those shows kind of rule though. They do a little bit. Yeah, they're nice. Yellowstone was awesome. Yellowstone was, yeah, Yellowstone was Speaker 2 (6:33) pretty good. Speaker 3 (6:33) Although if you Speaker 2 (6:33) watch it on TV, the shit they edited out on network television, I thought ruined the show. Speaker 3 (6:38) Yeah. Speaker 2 (6:39) But yeah. I just watch it on YouTube shorts. Speaker 4 (6:43) The Speaker 2 (6:43) big Speaker 4 (6:44) guy in the hot redhead. That's all I Speaker 2 (6:47) see, him throwing a snake or fucking banging his wife. Are you going for Tulsa Kings? Speaker 4 (6:52) No, I read for Tulsa Kings, like, fat guy behind the door. Yeah, yeah. Speaker 3 (6:58) And Speaker 4 (6:58) I'm like, I'm not doing it. Then I go back to Ian's Speaker 3 (7:01) place, and Ian Speaker 4 (7:02) got the same audition. What? Yeah, I'm like, what are we doing here? What are these, cattle call? Get the fuck out of here with this shit. Yeah, I'll find a Speaker 3 (7:09) lander Speaker 4 (7:09) for $1,500. I got cash. Speaker 3 (7:12) No, you don't. No, I don't. I'm bad news. I Speaker 2 (7:14) get scripts every now and again. He's also broke, for the record. Oh, yeah, I'm super broke. I fucked up. Really? Oh, yeah. It happens. Every great artist, man. Speaker 4 (7:22) That's what I figure. Yeah. Speaker 2 (7:23) You know what'll help that? More movie scripts in the back pocket. I really turned the ship around. I didn't like the script. Talk Speaker 3 (7:28) about not focusing on the Speaker 2 (7:30) right thing. Speaker 4 (7:31) We're focused on the right thing. What are you talking about? Speaker 2 (7:33) So you guys, that's why you guys had a silent riot because you were just peeping what he was up to and you were just monkey police. There Speaker 4 (7:37) was the latest incident is... Speaker 3 (7:40) This is funny because you guys are getting the fucking TMZ stuff. Are Speaker 4 (7:44) we Speaker 3 (7:44) allowed to talk about this? Yeah. I mean, it's embarrassing for you, for sure, if you want to talk about it. It's funny. Speaker 4 (7:49) I don't see it like that, to be honest with you. That's part of my problem. As someone who Speaker 3 (7:52) did what you did, I would assume so. Speaker 4 (7:54) I've overstepped on the corporate credit card a little bit over the Speaker 3 (7:56) last couple of weeks. A little bit is a drastic statement, I feel. Really? Speaker 2 (8:00) But you can write that off. That's what I said. What are we doing here? You're getting ahead of next year's taxes. I'm Speaker 4 (8:08) getting ahead of it. Yeah, we're raising it all. Speaker 2 (8:11) But it was taken from me like Speaker 4 (8:12) my badge or my gun. Yeah. Which I'm okay with. I'm all right with it. I didn't do no pushback. Speaker 3 (8:18) I said, I think, listen, I didn't reprimand. Did you like Speaker 4 (8:22) my response on the first thing when you were like, hey, this is whatever? I thought I was very hand up, like, hey, no problem, whatever you need. I want to do good. Sure. Yeah, it was just like, hey man. Speaker 3 (8:33) You got me. You know. I take the rights. Hold on. Speaker 3 (8:43) Thanks, bro. Speaker 1 (8:44) 70s? What Speaker 4 (8:44) the fuck? What are we in fucking Fort Myers? 70s? You're a millionaire. It should be like 56 in this joint. What are you guys doing? This guy Speaker 2 (8:55) can't get Speaker 3 (8:55) cold. Speaker 2 (8:56) Is that what it is? My plants. I keep it hot for my plants. What is that, by the way? Dendrum or something? You don't even know the name of it. Dendrum? I don't know. Monstera. That's what it is. You say it's Wilson? That's a little sad looking. Speaker 4 (9:10) Well, Speaker 2 (9:10) yeah, I haven't been here in a couple weeks, so. Speaker 4 (9:12) I have a money tree in my old apartment that I've had for like seven years. You have one back there? You do? Yeah, Speaker 2 (9:17) it's nice. I do like those things. Speaker 4 (9:18) Yeah, that's the only thing I've ever taken care of for a long time. Oh, my Speaker 2 (9:22) ex-wife's got it. And they did it paid off. He had the car. He Speaker 4 (9:24) had the car Speaker 2 (9:25) for a little while. It Speaker 4 (9:26) was Speaker 2 (9:26) all right. But I feel like Speaker 4 (9:28) if Speaker 3 (9:28) that thing dies, I'm fucked. That's what his money tree brought was. I wouldn't Speaker 4 (9:35) say that. Come on. What are you talking about? Speaker 2 (9:37) What was the damage? What Speaker 4 (9:38) was the damage? Well, we don't need to get Speaker 3 (9:40) into that shit. Speaker 2 (9:42) So it was taken. Speaker 3 (9:43) It was. No, I didn't. I did not take it. I said, hey, man, we need to reassess. Yeah. Speaker 4 (9:50) The Karen situation with Speaker 3 (9:52) the Amex. Which Speaker 4 (9:54) was actually very nice. He's been very cool about everything. Speaker 3 (9:57) Yeah. To Speaker 4 (9:58) be honest with you. Yeah. Not a great hang, but very stern. Speaker 3 (10:01) You Speaker 4 (10:01) think it's a hang. It's crazy. Very stern, but when I think about it, I'm like, wow. That's not stern. Speaker 3 (10:06) I go, hey, man, this is a business partner. We need to reassess. This is a problem. Which I said, okay, no problem. We need to reassess it. Speaker 4 (10:13) You said turn your card, and I said. No, I said, I'd feel Speaker 3 (10:15) better if you didn't have the card. Yeah. And I think that's. Speaker 4 (10:18) Yeah, I think Speaker 3 (10:19) that's fair. Speaker 4 (10:20) I'm completely on my own now. You've lost. Which is what I'm actually like. I'm in the middle of recovery, all that stuff. I'm completely on my own. I'm on my own. Speaker 3 (10:29) It's Speaker 4 (10:30) just Speaker 3 (10:30) like that was the last straw. Yeah. Yeah, so it was like, you know, it was like a lot. It was, you know, it was more money than I made in 2019. He spent in the last 30 days. Which is Speaker 4 (10:41) funny. He never checked to see if there was any bad economy, any identity theft or anything like that. It seems like a Speaker 2 (10:46) lot. Could have been some suspicious. Suspicious. Well, it's kind of funny because like AMX is pretty Speaker 3 (10:50) detailed with the charges. So, yeah. Sounds like Speaker 2 (10:54) suspicious activity. I think it does. Yeah. Speaker 3 (10:56) Unless someone stole your credit card and flew out to Cleveland a bunch to see your girlfriend. I Speaker 4 (11:02) never put anything on. I never put a flight on that Speaker 3 (11:04) card. You put six flights on the card. Speaker 2 (11:06) Really? Yes. Oh, fuck. First class? Fuck, Speaker 3 (11:10) you didn't. What do you mean you did not know that? Speaker 2 (11:12) I Speaker 4 (11:12) didn't know that. Wrong Speaker 2 (11:13) card. Isn't that Speaker 4 (11:14) crazy? Speaker 2 (11:14) Wrong card. Speaker 4 (11:15) Yeah, wrong card. Hand up, wrong card. Hand up on that. I'll give you that right now. I told you we could Speaker 3 (11:19) do it. Speaker 4 (11:19) Who's going to give me that? You believe Speaker 3 (11:21) a good guy Speaker 4 (11:22) like this is going to give me that? I got you. Speaker 4 (11:25) Holy shit. Why didn't you just say that from the beginning? There wouldn't have been a contentious conversation. I think you were awesome about it, and I apologize, and I think we're moving forward, and we're great. Yeah, true. Pod's the biggest it's ever been. We're back in our flow. We're doing great. Got the special coming out. That's Speaker 3 (11:38) what Speaker 4 (11:38) I'm talking about. Yeah, shout Speaker 3 (11:39) out. American Garbage on the YouTube channel. Hell yeah. Got Speaker 4 (11:41) to Speaker 3 (11:41) pay for the big man's Amex bill. Speaker 4 (11:43) Got the new tour. Tire season three was a big hit. Everybody's doing all right. Yeah, we're doing all right. We're Speaker 2 (11:48) good. Speaker 4 (11:48) That's awesome. Yeah, no worries at all. Everybody play cool. Speaker 3 (11:52) Everybody cool like us. We're just chilling, vibing over here. Yeah, so it's, yeah, there's been a, I apologize. There's some boundaries that we're, that's Speaker 2 (12:01) a Speaker 3 (12:01) boundary. It's Speaker 2 (12:02) just, hey, you Speaker 3 (12:03) know, you've kind of proven you can't be, you know, listen, I Speaker 2 (12:07) don't know if anybody from the audience, Speaker 3 (12:08) use the card. Speaker 2 (12:10) He's kind of financially dominating you right now. It's kind of kink. Findom. I'm kippy dom, dog. Let's go. I thought Speaker 4 (12:17) about that a little bit. I thought about that a little bit. Like, you know, what are you talking about? We're doing, we won the lottery. We're doing great. All this kind of stuff. But he is my blind trust in such a way that he's the only person in my life that I don't question. Speaker 3 (12:31) But you say whatever, I'm cool with Speaker 4 (12:32) it. Because I realized I put him through hell over the last year or so. Got the family. He wants to enjoy his life. All that kind of stuff. Got the house. Loving family, doing very well. I'm happy for him. At some point, I got to knock this shit off. Speaker 3 (12:45) True. Speaker 4 (12:45) Yeah, that's Speaker 3 (12:46) all Speaker 4 (12:46) we ask. Dude, Speaker 3 (12:47) that's just like, Speaker 4 (12:48) it's like. Well, the fact that. It's all going to be funny. Dude, I just Speaker 3 (12:50) go, I go, dude, you have zero responsibility. We built this spaceship together. I'm captain. Like, I got the, you know, I got it from the business standpoint. A lot of overhead, Speaker 4 (13:00) don't take Speaker 3 (13:01) that. Yeah. Yeah, the Amex bill, dude. It's crazy. Speaker 4 (13:03) No, not the Amex bill. Speaker 2 (13:05) Well, that's Florida overhead. I don't know. Speaker 2 (13:09) The fact that you guys are pushing through and just continuing to create, so it's important. Speaker 4 (13:13) I think so. Of course. We're not stupid. Speaker 2 (13:16) You know what I mean? True. Speaker 4 (13:17) Got a good thing going. Like we were talking about before. You know what I mean? We're all Speaker 3 (13:20) crazy from the Raven. Here we the fuck we are. I mean. Speaker 4 (13:25) Every one of you retards, right? Speaker 3 (13:27) You all came through there at some point. Speaker 4 (13:29) Cassidy was running it. Six was running it. Whatever. Speaker 3 (13:34) You moved into my house. Damn. Oh, yeah. Speaker 4 (13:37) That's Speaker 3 (13:37) right. Let's go. So we started on... I was Speaker 4 (13:40) banging your sister for a little bit. I remember that. Yeah. Speaker 3 (13:42) She's 14. That's a little weird. She's 10 years old. Speaker 2 (13:46) You Speaker 3 (13:47) son of a bitch. The Ravens are for sale, you guys. I saw. I Speaker 4 (13:50) was thinking about Speaker 3 (13:51) buying it, but we spent all of our money on the Amex. No, I don't Speaker 4