Lindsay Clancy & Lil Durk: Murder Trials | Macrodosing - Sept 3, 2026
Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter
Arian Foster and the Macrodosing crew dive into high-profile murder trials involving Lindsay Clancy and Lil Durk, alongside discussions on t
Key takeaways
- The recurring pattern of individuals being acquitted in multiple murder trials raises questions about innocence versus systemic patterns.
Main topics
- Lindsay Clancy murder trial
- Lil Durk murder trial
Notable quotes
"The third murder trial is where I really think you probably, you had something to do with it. How does this keep happening?"
Conclusion
The episode concludes with a mix of legal analysis and personal reflec
Transcript preview
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But today we're going to talk about some murder trials going on on both sides of America. But we got Big T. And where is Maddie? Is Maddie here? She is coming back from the DraftKings road trip content. Got you. All right. So we got a half the crew, but still here making it happen. Big T. What's up, brother? Start us off, man, with your list. Well, first of all, I would be remiss if we didn't say that it's Thursday, September 3rd. T-Bob, do you know what today is? So September 1st was the anniversary of Germany invading Poland. Sure. Starting World War II. You're taking it a little too macro. I was a bit surprised to learn that September 2nd was VJ Day. That's kind of funny. Speaker 1 (3:11) So the war began on September 1st, ended on September 2nd. What happened on September 3rd? It's not a historical thing. Football's back today. Oh. Oh, okay. Hell yeah. We were a little too big picture. Fuck yeah. Colorado, Georgia Tech, 8 Eastern. Oh, am I an idiot? I thought the game was tomorrow this entire time. This show comes out tomorrow, T-Bob. Oh, okay. Okay, okay, okay. Now it's Thursday right now. Okay. Oh, so today's VJ Day at the time of this recording. Correct. Wow. I'm in a blender. Terrible start of the show. Thank you all for having me, though. Love being here, guys. Of course. I sent T-Bob yesterday a gif of a manager calling to the bullpen. He's our long relief guy. Good. Hey, I love it. Get in how you fit in, baby. When we need somebody out of the pen, we call down there and say, get T-Bob up and moving around. Hell yeah. Are you left-handed or right-handed? Speaker 1 (4:03) Left-handed. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, so Arian, you're right. Yeah, we'll give him the lefty. Yeah. Problem is, though, now I'm having to learn how to throw right-handed because I got no labrum left in the left arm. It's just completely fucked. You do everything left-handed. Yeah, but I have to get, like, a full shoulder replacement, but I'm trying to put it off as long as possible, and so I've quite literally spent the last year trying to learn how to throw right-handed. How's that going? It makes you very self-conscious. It goes okay, except every time I release, there's, like, a... Speaker 1 (4:34) down to probably like a 15% chance that it just goes wildly off target. So it's okay. It's okay. But, you know. Why are you throwing? What are you throwing? Well, I want to be able to like, I want to be able to throw my kids, right? And like I literally can't. And then at this job, we're always doing some sort of stupid sports shit. Throw what? Like, just like, like football, baseball. Like I can't, I can't. How hard do we want to, I can't lift my left arm above this. This is, this is as high as I can go. It is fucked up, fucked up, like bad, like half the days. Now it'll get frozen randomly. And then like for the next couple hours, I just walk around like this. So I'm, I'm, I'm. Speaker 1 (5:12) After this football season, I think I'm going to have to suck it up and go back under the knife, which is whatever. Are those like knee replacements? They only last like 10 years? I don't, yeah. See that? Yeah. I don't know the exact signs on yet. I got to talk to a doctor up here, but that was my understanding when I got the original like diagnosis was you should try to put this off as long as you can because you're going to have to get another one eventually. And I think that was like two years ago. So, you know, we're almost out of time. Speaker 1 (5:39) with a when you sleep yeah i deal with this like sometimes like i have to switch sides constantly because both my shoulders is fucked up is it is it like that you have to like you can always sleep off you can only lay out like so long on you so my right shoulder is fine so i sleep on my right shoulder basically i i can't like the the worst thing it's done for me is my wife sleeps on my left side and i was always a big spooner uh but now i can't lay on my left side Speaker 1 (6:06) If I do, I got to put my arm on my belly, which then obviously interrupts the spoon. And so it's been really disastrous for my spoon, unfortunately. You could just switch sides of the bed. Or is it too late at this point? I don't know. My wife talks about that as well. That feels like, I don't know why, that feels crazy to me to suddenly switch sides of the bed. I agree. That shit is wild. I got a big ass bed. It's vacant right now. I have a side. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, sometimes, like, my daughters will come sleep in whatever case might be. Kids fucking around in there. If I'm on the other side of my bed ever, it just feels weird. I agree, except when we go to a hotel, I'm fine on either side. Doesn't bother me. But if I were to ever sleep on the other side of the bed in my house, I would. Speaker 1 (6:54) I, it would be psychological torture. So you're getting, you're getting a little extra freaky on vacation. Just switching up. Don't even matter. Just wherever the outlets are is where I need to be. Uh, that makes sense. I, I, uh, one thing that's been bad about our sleep really meant lately is, well, I don't know if it's bad, but my youngest, like my, my girls sleep together in the same room. So they're always fine. My youngest is three. He has a habit of now every single night he'll get up about like 4 a.m. Something like that. It doesn't matter the time. And he'll come into our bed. And at first I fought it. Now I don't know. He's my last kid. So it's like I kind of want to enjoy it. I want to sleep there. Fine. But he's just starting to do this thing where he just dominates me. He lays there and he turns sideways and he kicks me. Speaker 1 (7:41) until i move to the foot of the bed like a dog now it's a california king so i can get away with it because it's a giant square essentially but yeah there's been like why do you allow that because the alternative like i don't know what the alternative is i bring back to his bed i make him stop but then i go i go back to sleep and he just keeps doing it and he stops kicking me if i go to the foot of the bed like a dog yeah so Speaker 1 (8:06) My sons, whenever they were – my sons are 12 and 13. If they ever were, I'd put their ass back in their bed. No. But my daughters, I can't. Yeah. I can't. Yeah. See, so I find the same way with my older ones. I was pretty strict about it. And every now and then they might catch a night in there. But for the most part, I was always waking up, bringing them back. But I don't know. Like I said, it's the last time. And then – You know how shit works nowadays. I read like one social media post that was like, well, actually, kids sleeping with their parents is very normal for the majority of human history. And so I was like, OK, sure. Yeah. Yeah. But it does get annoying sometimes. Oh, I would have guessed the opposite. I would think that that's some new Gen Z stuff that parents are allowing. Speaker 1 (8:52) And that nobody else would have ever allowed. Well, I mean, you think about it. I'm a sucker. I'm going to come to my baby girls. I'm a sucker. Yeah, it feels good. My daughter, my daughter, my daughter sleep in my room and she do the same shit. She wake up. I wake up to like punches in the face. I'm like, what the fuck? And she just, you know, this is wild dreaming about whatever she dreamt about. You don't learn for too long. Yeah, maybe you'll be there. Yeah. No, but I mean, think about it. I guess for the majority of history, though, you're all sleeping in one room, right? Speaker 1 (9:20) And probably on like a hay floor or something. Well, that's way back. The last hundred years, I would guess most parents wouldn't have allowed that. Yeah. Until recently. I don't know. I don't know. But again, I think it's mainly due that he's just a spoiled little last kid where it's like he gets a lot of rope because it's like, oh man, it's our last time doing X. Speaker 1 (9:46) Not X-y, like, you know, the algebraic X. That makes sense. I guess that's probably where the traditional youngest being the most spoiled comes from. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I'm going through it firsthand, despite the fact that I grew up with a little brother and I said I would never do that, but here I am. It's what it is. Yeah, it kind of sucks if you're the first of them. You know what I'm saying? If you're the oldest kid. Like, it's all trial and error. Like, nobody, there's no book. You don't know how to be a parent. And then, like, by the time you get to the end. Speaker 1 (10:15) You already, you know what I'm saying? We're in a routine. We know how to do this. But them first, like three years of a first kid, what the fuck are we doing? My oldest sister, she's six years older than me. We had five camera family before, uh, she like in junior high, my mom would had like MTV scrambled on, on the cable television. And then by the time my brother's in high school, he was having. full drunken house parties every single weekend and like nothing mattered wait when you say scrambled like she made the channel unavailable yeah like through the cable company i'm guessing but you could you could go to the channel but it was scrambled like the old spice channels and and and everything else interesting yeah she also somehow i don't know she like led me to a very embarrassing moment where she paid uh some sort of uh vhs editor i guess Speaker 1 (11:08) to change our copy of titanic to exclude kate winslet's boobs and and some of the steamy sex scene in the car and so i looked like a fool when i went to school and was talking about how they just made out in the car and everybody was clowning me and i just remember being very embarrassed your mom went to a vhs editor i don't know the strip of thing out i mean i i don't know if it was that or maybe she had like some sort of advanced copy or something she had an edited copy though without kate winslet food this sounds this sounds wild to you i think okay if like what service do you go to in the 90s to say i would say this as i remember it and i do not know if this is accurate but this is how i remember we know memory is very faulty Speaker 1 (11:59) Um, it had something to do with my dad's agent getting like, my sister was obsessed with the Titanic. She was one of the 16 year olds that saw it, you know, 30 or whatever, uh, like 16 times in theaters. And my mom got like an advanced copy, um, but was worried, I guess, about me and my little brother seeing that stuff. And whoever she got the advanced copy from somehow edited it for her. I don't know. I don't know. It could be crazy. I do remember finally seeing Kate Winslet's boobs. So the first boobs I ever saw. Uh, so I got there eventually. Speaker 1 (12:30) I guess besides my mom's. Yeah. Yeah, man. So what's on your list? Well, we're doing a couple murder trials later. I'm sure you kept up with this. Did we know there was a trial going on for the guy that killed Tupac? We know who killed him for a long time. This ain't the dude that killed him. Oh, it's not? It's the dude that set it up. He set it all up. When I read about it a little bit, it seems like he's kind of admitted to it for a long time. Speaker 1 (13:10) Yeah, Keefy D, from my understanding, I wasn't really too into it, but from my understanding, I think it was Orlando Anderson who actually shot him. But I think they all part of the same gang, if I'm not mistaken. It's been a while since I dug into this. This trial, I know Pac's one of my favorite artists of all time, so I wasn't really into it. I've made peace with it. His name has been circling in the streets for a while, him and Orlando Anderson. Speaker 1 (13:41) And I do not know a lot about any of this as far as the case goes. Does Suge Knight, does he factor in anywhere in all of this? No. There was rumors. Okay, that's what I was going to say. I didn't pull that out of thin air, right? Like that was something that was kind of thought maybe to be the case back in the day. If you listen to on, this was the conspiracy theories before the internet. If you listen to Tupac's first track on Machiavelli called Bomb First. Bomb First. There's like murmuring in the intro. And it was released after he died. But it was like everything was exactly how he wanted it. He was going to release it, but he died. And on that track, on the intro track, there's a rumor that he said Suge shot me. So if you listen to it, you can hear him say it. It sounds like Suge shot me, but it don't really. Speaker 1 (14:37) You know, there's no evidence for that. But there was a bunch of rumors back in the day. There was rumors that Diddy did it. There was rumors that Suge did it. There was rumors that the police did it. I've seen everything. Is this a satisfying ending? Like, did this guy definitely do it? Is this a satisfying kind of close to the case? I don't, I've never like lost anybody to like a murder. So I don't know that I would, like this is like as a Tupac fan, I can't speak for everybody else, but as a Tupac fan, it don't do anything for me. Like I made peace with his death. I cried when he died when I was young. I cried. He meant a lot to me. But like as a Tupac fan, it don't really do. I knew just through. Speaker 1 (15:25) Street politics and California politics like I've heard shit throughout the years. I was probably gang related he was he was messing around with I think it was a he was a mo be Piru my Piru If I'm not mistaken, yeah, he's messing around with the Bloods and shook and when he was in Las Vegas he got to a fight and I believe they were Crips and popped off, died. And that's kind of odd. But I don't really, I mean, I don't know if his surviving family members get justice from that. I don't know. But I would feel like if you lose somebody in a real, like, I don't know. Not for me, though. Legend in my eyes. Now, one of the wilder parts of this story is that this guy, Keith D, he wrote about this in a memoir. Speaker 1 (16:24) Yeah, so I didn't even know this trial was going on, but then once I saw the headlines that they found him guilty, I looked into it a little bit, and he said for a long time that he did this. Did he just think that he could openly just talk? I mean, I guess OJ wrote a book one time called If I Did It. I don't know. I think it ended up getting blocked from release, so maybe he thought that he could just talk about it and claim that he was making it up, but yeah, apparently he wrote about it, just claiming that, you know. Kind of like an if I did it situation. And well, way to go. Dumbass. Because now you got got. Yeah. And I'm allude to that later on when we talk about the little dirt trial. But. Speaker 1 (17:08) I mean, these podcasts are just a FBI's field dream. They are just all the evidence, self-telling. This shit is crazy. It does seem to me, and this is anecdotal, but in several trials in the rap community, I have seen guys own songs used against them enough that it makes me question, why in the world are you saying that? Of like specific real crimes. It's like part of their lore. So like part of the reason why they get they status is because they do these crimes and then they gloat about it, knowing that they can get away with it. And that's part of like the, you know, it's part of the lore. It does. Wow. But like, just make up a crime, you know? Don't say the real one you did with real locations and people's names. It is fascinating that they tell on themselves. Speaker 1 (18:11) Pretty. And it was such great detail, too. It's crazy. Yeah. I should not know the street. I should not know the intimate details of your street beef. But I do. And there's some good songs that came out of it, unfortunately. Yeah, I'm sure. I know that one of the more odd memories that I had in playing college football was we were all massive Boosie fans, obviously, being in Baton Rouge and everything. And I remember we had a team meeting one day, and I think it was an assistant AD, not athletic director, attorney, or maybe AG, attorney general. Yeah. Speaker 1 (18:52) Or the prosecutor, whatever. So they came in and that was when Boosie was in jail. And they told us, like, he was like, because I think they were trying to dissuade us from getting into bad things. And they were like, we got his ass. Like, he's the kingpin behind all this shit. Like, he's at the top of the food chain. And we got his ass. He told us, he literally told the meeting, like, we're going to get him the death penalty. And then. Lucy? Yeah. Speaker 1 (19:21) And then, and then lo and behold, boozey's out very much out and very much just living his life. And so, and it was crazy at the time because yeah, then you go and listen to the music more and you're like, okay, so now I actually believe everything he's rapping about. He actually did because we had a district attorney DA. That's what I was looking for. We had an assistant DA come in and literally tell us that he was, but yeah, somehow he got out of it. It's hard to prove a murder. It's hard to prove. Because it has to be beyond a reasonable doubt. And if you introduce any doubt, you sending a man... Speaker 1 (20:02) to prison for life yeah so that's what's hard about being a juror is like god well i mean damn a little bit of doubt hung jury happened it's tough man yeah and i guess murder what's that boosie was indicted on first murder yeah yeah i didn't know this yeah they they were in and i don't know is it the trigger man or if it was more like i i believe it was more that he was calling all the shots but um but he he he got he got out And that's what's wild about this Dirk case. And I get into what we talk about, but what's wild about this Dirk case is if you follow Dirk throughout his career. Speaker 1 (20:41) And if you halfway know anything about the streets, he absolutely did this shit. But he's gotten off on murders before. It's just hard to prove. And it's wild because it's like he's leaving these little breadcrumbs of the crimes as he does them. And it's just, it's wild. But he makes great music. Isn't there a Key and Peele skit? about that about rappers just straight um by the way how we came to today's subject was we were tossing around ideas the other day and i said should we do the lindsey clancy trial which we discussed a couple times in area and said i don't know who that is but little dirk's on trial and i said well i didn't know anything about the little dirk trial let's just do both of them so so so we have the the two sides of america trials going on right now there there is Which I think that's a good topic. Speaker 1 (22:02) It's the ultimate setup for the NFL season. Plus, new users can get NFL Sunday ticket for eight payments of $30 per month. Go to youtube.com slash NFLST and get it done. Don't be the guy guessing what's happening in the other games. Be the guy in the living room who sees it all. New users pay $240 or eight non-cancelable payments of $30 a month. First charge of purchase. Availability varies. With NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games and YouTube TV for local and national games, YouTube TV required. Terms, restrictions, and embargoes apply. Commercial use excluded. No refunds. It's a great topic. It's a great topic. Let's circle back around to that. What is this AI toothbrush? What is this? I'm interested in the AI toothbrush. So Dyson, a company that makes good products, is coming out with a toothbrush. They trained AI on 470,000 dental images and they put a 100,000 pixel. Speaker 1 (23:01) camera 100 000 pixel macro lens inside the brush head and it takes 28 images per second of your teeth while you brush the ai detects gaps in your teeth and within 100 milliseconds fires a precision jet of mouth rinse directly into the gap it's 500 that's a little too much but i am intrigued i mean You could just rinse your mouth. I know, but I trust Dyson. I trust Dyson, you know? This is stupid. Of all things that I would think Big T would think was stupid, this would be the top of the list. I'm curious to see the results. You could literally just wash your mouth out or rinse it after you've done or before. You can get all the gaps. Yeah, but they put tech in it, so it might be better. And this is the thing, though, because... Speaker 1 (23:57) I, you know, I use mouthwash. I've used a water pick a lot, but I'm big on the water pick right now. I'm big on the water pick as well. Right. Because like, what's the one thing they always tell us to do that nobody ever wants to do consistently? Floss. It's floss, right? Oh, I floss all the time. And there's been like all those crazy like things that I remember growing up, which I haven't actually looked into in years. So I don't know if they're true, but you remember always hearing about stuff like. Speaker 1 (24:20) If you don't floss, it gives you a way higher percentage chance of like Alzheimer's. That's big floss. It does prevent that, I think. I've read a study on that. I mean, it kind of makes sense. Not obviously prevent, but it helps. That's what big floss is telling you. But it does make sense though. I mean, or at least like to my stupid brain, I'm like, yeah, I mean, I guess that stuff's just like sitting in your mouth and it kind of hangs out there. So close to your brain. Yeah, bacteria and whatnot. But then what I learned the other day is that the water pick. It's not a substitute for floss. Yeah, you're supposed to still do both. Well, that's crazy. I'm not going to do both. So my question is this. Does this AI toothbrush... Speaker 1 (24:57) Is that a substitute for floss? Because if it is... I don't think so. Then this doesn't have legs to me. That AI toothbrush is stupid as fuck. With all due respect, Dyson. Because I fuck with their vacuums. I have a good hair dryer. Yeah, they've kind of got their hand in everything. Yeah. I saw a video the other day about this dude who was making fun of Yamaha. He was like, it was a skit. I'm not a comedian, but he did this shit funny. He was like, we're going to make motorcycles. We're going to make lawnmowers. He's like, hear me out. We're going to make pianos. He kept doing it. I was like, God, they make everything, though. Oh, this does say this is a review in the Telegraph. It brushes, flosses, and mouthwashes in one. Okay. Am I losing you, Big T? I think I'm losing you, man. In what sense? Speaker 1 (25:55) You used to be rational. This is ridiculous. $500 is too much. It's too much. You're talking about the price. I'm talking about its utility. Just rinse your mouth out. The guy on the telegraph says it could be a dental game changer. He might be in big Dyson pocket here. Now that's possible. That's something we need to find out. Again, I am intrigued when it gets to a more affordable price. If it's truly a one-stop shop, like it even flosses. Because the past two weeks I've been trying to floss and it does feel way better. I'm going to save you the time, Big T-Bob. It is not. It is not. This is horrible. This is a horrible product. Dr. Tilly Houston says it's great. Fuck Dr. Tilly Houston. Did you know one company that blew my mind that I didn't realize how massive they've gotten? But I do own multiple of their products. Give me a... Speaker 1 (26:53) category okay let me think they make uh they kind of make they make like home appliances specifically i would say kitchen appliances no i'm actually not i actually kind of loathe samsung home home appliances i've had washers and dryers that like the touchscreen breaks on and it's impossible to fix because there's two it just i i loathe i love them i have a stupid fucking smart fridge right now that i come home the other day and my three-year-old's watching fucking youtube Speaker 1 (27:21) On the fridge, and I about took a baseball bat to the thing. Now, see, Arian, the smart fridge, I don't understand. There's no utility for me there. Okay, they make like... The fridge gets you, but not the toothbrush. I'm curious to see what the toothbrush does. It brushes your teeth, and that's all. If Dyson would love to send us a couple toothbrushes, we'd love to review. I mean, think about how you brush your teeth. Maybe this is a me thing. I brush my teeth. I put the toothpaste on. I wet the toothbrush. I wet it. And then in the midst of me brushing my teeth, all kinds of water and saliva, like it's just all mixed in there. I'm not even going to feel that little spray. Speaker 1 (28:07) And a lot of times my mouth is closed when I'm brushing my teeth. I'm not going to feel that shit. That's ridiculous. Why does it matter if you feel it if it's working? It's not working. I feel like for it to work, I would have to feel it. Speaker 1 (28:22) I'd love to review. I'd love to give it a review. Okay. What have I told you that the most recent item I got from this company, one of my buddies, he has made himself into like an Amazon and Best Buy reviewer. So he gets in product and I have an auto barista machine at home that can make all kinds of ninja. Yes. Ninja's big in the streets right now. Shark Ninja as a company is worth $25 billion. You talking about the water filter jump? Yeah. Like, oh yeah. Oh, that's what it was. It went viral the other day for their crazy ass water filter they got now. Now that. I'm interested in it. Was that real? I want to see the review. I seen a dude put Sunny D in there and water come out. I don't... Sunny D? That bullshit? That shit got my attention. I would like to see that in action. $250. That's more than reasonable. That pays for itself. How is that less than a toothbrush? Speaker 1 (29:23) This makes me a little lower on the toothbrush, to be honest with you. I'd pay $250 for the toothbrush. I'm not paying over $4 for a toothbrush. Oh, you don't do a Sonicare? No, fuck no. You don't use an electric? I think all this shit is a rip-off. Oh, dude, electric. You gotta have an electric toothbrush. No, it's the oral B-junks that come two in a pack, and they are electric. And they got the strongest bristles. This is the best toothbrush in the market, in my opinion. No, that's the fake electric. It just hits that little, like, shimmy. Vibrating. Yeah, it hits that shimmy. Vibrating. It shimmies for me. Well, I've had a $200 toothbrush before, and it sucks. The bristles suck. It sucks. I've had it all. I've had the cream of the crop and those. Let me find them. Them Oral-B Jones for, like, $4 for two. I mean, to be fair. Best toothbrush in the market. Speaker 1 (30:19) It did hurt me the other day when I went to buy brush head replacements for the Sonicare. Oh, they got you on those. And it was 70 bucks at Costco for eight brush heads. There's a brand on Amazon. I have the off-brand Sonicare. It's good. Ah, yeah. I mean, it's got to be. Like, functionally, it's not like Sonicare is doing anything, like, crazy. Yeah. I was going to go get them, but I don't want to put my headphones back on. But they're the best ones, man. I find that difficult to believe. I'm sure they work, but they can't be the best. They wouldn't be $4 if they were the best. I disagree. Unless we're all getting food. I've had a $200 toothbrush, and it sucked. Where I had to change. You buy new little tops to it with the brushes. All that shit. Horrible. I do want one of these water filters. So could I put salt water in there? And would it desalinate it to where I could drink it? Speaker 1 (31:19) Because I guess it's something in general that I kind of wonder about. When people get stuck adrift on the ocean or stuff, have we not invented anything where you can just desalinate ocean water and turn it into drinking water? It's crazy expensive. It costs so much money that it's not worth doing. Oh, okay. That makes sense. Yeah, they can do it. No on the expensive toothbrushes, though. This says up to 80 contaminants could be hiding in your drinking water. Speaker 1 (31:53) I mean, but I don't know what that means because I still don't know what to feel about fluoride. Like, I thought fluoride was like a triumph of like American infrastructure and led to all these good things. But then now it's always at the center of, I mean, it's been at the center, I guess, of conspiracies for like decades. Where are we at with fluoride now? It's bad. We did an episode on it. There's nothing you can do about it, but it's bad. So it is bad. So it's not something that we should be championing. I disagree with that. I thought we all, we pretty much came to the conclusion that it was bad. Speaker 1 (32:24) I did not come to that conclusion. I think that it there is evidence that it helps your your teeth. That's true. But I think anything in large quantity is bad. But I think that overall it's fine if you have it in. That's that's what I remember reading. I'd have to go back and listen to it, but I'm not an expert on that. I just remember my first ever steps into the worlds of conspiracy was one of my friends in college being like, you got to listen to Alex Jones. And then I'm listening to Alex Jones and he's just fucking yelling about fluoride. And my world was turned upside down. Fucking frog game. I don't know if that was fluoride, but it would make sense. Something. Speaker 1 (33:18) PFT was an early listener of Alex Jones. First ever episode of this show was Alex Jones. Oh, wow. The Life and Times. PFT listened when he was on like local access in Texas. Damn. Going all the way back to him. No, I guess I would have started in like 2010, 2011. And I remember at the time being like, makes you think, makes you think. But then after listening for a little bit longer, I kind of emerged. I'm like, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I don't know that I agree. I like keeping an open mind. It did teach me to be very open to like different opinions and different avenues of information. But ultimately I consumed it and rejected it for the most part. Speaker 1 (34:08) That's fine. What was it? Flooride. Alex Jones. Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Yeah, in general. In general. I saw a clip about him the other day. He's running around saying Trump's health. He's like really banging the drum on Trump's health right now. I mean, yeah, he's, you know, he's in that camp where I guess Trump has kind of betrayed him in terms of the things that he would champion him for and what's going on now. Speaker 1 (34:44) The craziest clip in my 40 years of existence is when Kanye West went on Alex Jones. That was just insane. Like, what is humanity right now? What is going on, man? And then he had Annette. and a chocolate milk yahoo and he was saying look at that yahoo i was like yo this shit is unhinged dog what am i watching this shit that was wild this is a wild mashup of personalities and subjects and and then he said he's like i it was like it's like I love Nazis. And then Ash was like, whoa. He doesn't mean we love Nazis. He doesn't mean they. And he was like, no, no, I love Nazis. We was like, yo, crazy, crazy times. He's doing shows at Soldier Field this weekend. Sold out, I suppose. Yeah. I don't. Speaker 1 (35:45) I don't want to go, but