Celebrity Traitors

Katherine Ryan: Telling Everybody Everything

Katherine Ryan details her experimental DIY beauty treatment using centrifuged menstrual blood plasma for PRP microneedling, sharing the step-by-step process and early

Key takeaways

• Katherine Ryan collected menstrual blood in a Diva Cup, spun it in a centrifuge to separate the plasma, and applied it with a microneedling pen for DIY PRP facial treatment, noting no adverse effects after 16 hours.
• She shares Celebrity Traitors Season 2 spoilers, praising Richard E. Grant's bold traitor confession and predicting James Acaster will be chosen as a traitor due to his massive fan appeal.

Main topics

• DIY menstrual blood PRP facial treatment
• Celebrity Traitors Season 2 spoilers and cast reactions

Notable quotes

"I reject the idea that menstrual blood is automatically dirty."

Conclusion

The episode balances lighthearted beauty experiments and celebrity gossip

Transcript preview

Speaker 2 (0:00) Hello, and welcome to another episode of Telling Everybody Everything. Okay? Okay, Satan? You win. It is Saturday, October 3rd. How am I in the podcast studio without three children crawling all over me? Well, we have the babysitters on Rota now. That's right. We realized finally, after five and a half years of having small kids, because of course, I had babysitters sometimes when Violet was little, and then sometimes her dad would look after her, but like overall, I could not. A four to nanny, obviously. And now we've realized like, oh, wait a minute. We have work on Saturdays sometimes. We have events. We have like gigs. Hello. Like comedians work on weekends. Why did I never have a babysitter on the weekends? And now we have four days on, four days off. Everybody's fresh. New babysitter comes in after four days. The other one's resting for four days. New babysitter comes in again after four days. The other one's resting for four days. This, if you have extra money, kicking around is the magic formula. And does it mean that someone's looking after your kids every single day? No, it does not. No, it does not. It means there's an extra pair of hands and you can take two hours out of the day to do your podcast. You can take one hour out of the day to do the very soothing meditation of organizing the wardrobe and folding towels. Or you can take one child somewhere instead of three. Violet officially has her license. Speaker 2 (1:34) So she basically lives each day on the road. Like I just check her location periodically. She's here, she's there, she's everywhere. She has become the unofficial pink taxi for her school. Okay, I know what you're all waiting for. If you are true besties of mine, then you follow the podcast, you follow social media, and you've been dying to know. Catherine, give us the update on... using the plasma extracted via centrifuge from your menstrual blood to do microneedling, PRP, on your face. That's the question on everyone's lips. So, okay. I have finished seven podcast adverts. Recorded those, written those. Hope you love them. I write them all myself. I think they're pretty funny. And now I have nothing to do but tell you what I did with this menstrual blood. Okay. Speaker 2 (2:32) So, if you missed an episode or two, I'll take you back to the inception of this idea. Gina Martin. who is comedian Stevie Martin's sister, but Gina Martin herself is very prolific. She is the one who was forward thinking in getting the upskirting laws passed through Parliament. You can no longer pop your phone under a lady's skirt and take a photo. That used to be fine. That used to be fine to do. Absolutely encouraged in many neighborhoods, but now it is criminalized. Anyway, so Gina Martin's awesome. She's always got like cool things going on. Follow her on socials if you don't already. Likewise with Stevie Martin. So Gina posted two months ago maybe. Oh, there's this new study. They have finally decided that after years of telling us our menstrual blood is smelly and dirty and trash and should be hidden and should be avoided, should be like buried in the bottom of our bins. They have done a study and they have found that in menstrual blood, there's lots of stuff. There's like endometrial lining. There's like mucus. There's plasma. There's actual blood. But there are endometrial stem cells in some of what is expelled from your uterus. And those stem cells in this study were shown on a superficial scar or superficial scratch. 100 % healing within 24 hours. And since that study was released and amplified by Jaina Martin, I have seen people taking menstrual blood and putting it like a drop of it in moon water. And then the pattern of the blood in the morning looks like kind of like a vine with leaves on it. Like it's this amazing, possibly amazing substance that we were shamed about. And the only blood that you will ever see. on screens or in photos or like glorified is blood that comes from violence. From like Jesus on the crucifix to like every action movie. That kind of blood is fine. They'll make fake blood. Halloween's coming up. Blood, blood, blood. We'll put blood on our kids. But this menstrual blood that is like the origin of life contained within it, that's trash. That's dirty. That stinks. You know, I've always said real gangsters run red lights, but like overall, this blood is like, yuck. Even women, even women, when I floated this idea, were like, ew. Even a dermatologist was like, you can't do that. That's dirty. Do what you ask? Well, it's not just about having beautiful skin and looking young. Though like, even without the facelift, you have to admit, I have an exceptional skin quality for being 43 years old. My skin. It has never been touched by the sun. I've never had a blemish in my life. Like my skin is great. But there's always room for improvement. So I said to myself, hang on a minute. If this menstrual blood, which I think it started from me being pissed off that I've now wasted like 18 years of menstrual blood. Yes, I got my period quite late in life. What was I doing with this menstrual blood? Fucking nothing. Speaker 2 (5:41) So anyway, that lit a fire under me to be like, what can I do with my remaining menstrual blood? I've had like three periods in six years because I'm always pregnant. And I just got my period last month for the first time since I stopped breastfeeding Holland. And my mind went into overdrive and I was like, hang on. I've been to medispas where I get PRP, which is. plasma-rich platelets. They take blood out of your arm. They spin it in a machine called a centrifuge. They spin it at like 5,000 RPMs per minute for 10 minutes. And then they take the vial out and it will be, your blood will be separated by this gel. At the bottom will be like dark red blood cells. At the top will be this plasma, which looks kind of like yellow clear. And they will use that and they will put it on your face like a serum. And then they will do microneedling on top of it. OK, no one's like injecting this into you. Nothing like that. They just use it like a serum and they will do like a microneedling pen, whatever facial on top of it. So I said to myself, Catherine Ryan, you could use your menstrual blood, spin it in a centrifuge and like use the amazing plasma that comes from that to give yourself a PRP facial with a derma pen or even like keep it in the freezer. and try to use that plasma on the kids' scratches. You know, Fena Fell in the driveway today has a scratch on her knee. Like, am I at the point where I'm going to put this plasma on my daughter's leg? Not yet. I am the guinea pig. I'm testing it for myself. So at last period, like, I was really spinning out. I didn't get the centrifuge in time. When I got the centrifuge, I also had a Diva Cup, which you'll know like a menstrual cup to collect menstrual blood rather than like tampons and pads and period pants. I got all that sorted, but then I didn't have the glass vials that I needed. Suffice to say, I wasted the last period blood again. Stock it up with the last 18 years of wasted fucking period blood. But this month, I was ready. And I won't lie, I thought I was maybe pregnant for a while because things got a bit wet and wild at the Celine Dion concert, Emily A. Tack's wedding. You know, Bobby and I have been on a lot of dates this month. But the chance of a spontaneous pregnancy at age 43 is low. So I was a few days late. I started to panic. Then my period came. So what I would advocate for you, first of all, I don't advocate anyone to do this. Of course, I floated my ideas past a few trusted, you know, colleagues. I told Lou Sanders about it. I've told all of you about it. Don't do it. Like, I don't want to get anybody like a skin infection, right? Just let me try it for a while first. I'm a firstborn daughter. I got a like a crazy mind. So if you were to do it, if you were to do it, here's how I did it. Day one, period blood. So today I'm day two. I'm not even collecting this period blood chiefly because I think that my little like menstrual cup is too big for me. It kind of hurts. Not bragging. So day one, I collected it in the menstrual cup. And by evening, I put the kids to bed. I got out my centrifuge and I. Put the blood from that cup, which I'm sorry to the dermatologist who messaged me being like, Speaker 1 (8:50) it's not sanitary. Why Speaker 2 (8:52) isn't it? The menstrual cup was sanitized. I put it in boiling water. It was really clean. I popped that up to my cervix. Like, it's not dirty in my cervix. I'm sorry. I didn't have sex. I had a shower. Like, I don't understand why you think it's dirty. Is it as clean as blood that comes, like, sterile straight from your vein? Yeah, maybe not. But, like. I just reject the idea that menstrual blood is automatically dirty. So I collected day one, probably a full cup of this. I put it into the glass vials that I had to buy for the centrifuge machine. I started texting Carrie. Let me get the text back up, actually, because it didn't go great like right away. When it came out, though, interestingly, it didn't look like the blood from. an actual like dermatology clinic PRP separated, you know, the plasma was a little bit darker. And I thought, oh, maybe it didn't separate properly. So I put that plasma in another glass vial and tried it again, and it just stayed the same. So then Carrie and I kind of worked this out together, Googling. So Carrie said, menstrual, and again, it's hard to get information on this because it's not been done. So she said the reason it doesn't look completely separated is menstrual blood and venous blood, like blood from your vein. can both separate into layers when centrifuged, but the appearance and composition can be quite different. Venus blood, after clotting, it separates into serum and clot cells. If anticoagulated, it separates into plasma and a packed red cell layer with a thin, buffy coat of white cells or platelets in between. So that's how it normally looks in the salon, like the aesthetics clinic. But menstrual blood contains blood mixed with endometrial tissue, cervical vaginal secretions, mucus, and other cellular material. It also contains enzymes and substances involved in breaking down clots. Consequently, centrifugation may produce several less distinct layers with tissue or debris or mucus settling separately. So the exact appearance depends heavily on whether the menstrual sample is fresh, diluted with fluid, contains clots and tissue, or whether an anticoagulant was used. So you should not expect a menstrual blood sample to produce the same clean plasma serum and red cell separation as a standard venous blood sample. Well, that's all I needed to hear, guys. So I decided to use the top layer, which should have been plasma, but was a bit like darker than plasma, whatever. Yes. Speaker 2 (11:30) Cancel me. I used that. I froze some of it for like cuts and scratches down the road. And I used a bit of it on my face like a serum. To be completely transparent, it didn't smell like anything. It was now quite thin from the centrifugation or whatever. Put it on my face and then I used a microneedling pen to be like over top of it to get it into my skin. And I used a very light setting. So a microneedling pen can go intense. Like it can go deep up to like, I don't know what, like two millimeters or something. I did zero point. two five or something so just a very painless light microneedling all over my face using yes the centrifuged plasma from my menstrual blood and I didn't go like balls to the walls with it I just did it a bit kind of around my t-zone like my chin my jawline my forehead I think you'd have to do it for a while to experience results but I just wanted to start slow but so far it's been what 16 hours, no adverse effects. What do you think of this? Is it super mental or is it just a little bit mental? And for anyone who thinks like, Catherine, you can't be doing, you know, taking science into your own hands. You're disgusting for harvesting