The Real Report - Albee Al on Gunna vs Young Thug, rats in hip-hop, Pooh Shiesty pressing Gucci, doing time in the Max, & Top 5 Jersey rappers

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Albee Al discusses his prison past, Jersey's street culture, hip-hop beefs like Gunna vs Young Thug, and the role of 'rats' in the industry. He reflects on personal growth, community impact, and staying true to his roots

Key takeaways

• Prison experience shaped Albee's music and worldview

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So there's a certain code and we know to follow that but a lot of guys make money and then you're gonna follow that code, man, that's like you got a-t-t'l'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't'n't' That's it because I'm not I'm not with that I don't care if you my mother pushed you out bro You tell bro you not my kind and you got deal with that it Like like that like no I mean like if family members whatever you for me my aunts and them They'd be like no I mean we know why you think me not we're not we're not on that because at end of the day Like some could happen and then even if you're even if you just like I'm never gonna tell again if you're the one out? because we let him around again. You tell once you tell twice. That's a fact. He didn't get stabbed. show make some noise y'all now we got jerseys we got the king a jersey in the mother n anybody who disagree you can jump in that flame too. Let's go. We all know Jersey is gangster. You know, I think I follow one of the pages, things like Jersey drill and I'll be seeing all the crazy shit that be going in Jersey Jersey. No different than New York City. Shout to Jersey, you know what I'm saying? I remember being with 50 shooting in Patterson years ago when he didn't one of his first films and one of their projects shut down. Some crazy projects so I know y'all got some wild projects way out from out there. I know you lost one of your brothers you know what I'm saying rest to peace to them like what's life like in Jersey man it's the trenches like it's no I'm saying they're trying to what you call that shit gentrified you trying to gentrified you know what I'm saying but you can't change the trenches the projects still a project's you know what I'm saying and the hood's still a city like you go to Jersey city like you go to I mean a lot of people just moving different now it's different hustles out here so the streets is kind of like cleaning up but it's still money in the streets but at the same time it's other money that niggas could get probably more than the money in the streets you know I mean because I know I'm like Jersey City I'm in Patterson is they be selling dollar bags of smack the streets what the fuck you're doing you can sell a shirt for ten dollars that's way more than a dollar bag of It's just it's just trenchery like you know I mean I came from the trenches I don't know everybody else but I'm definitely came to the trench my mama soul work you know what I'm saying my daddy's work you know I mean my grandma so my grandma so my grandma so my grandma's so my grandma's like I'm from this shit like I'm shot the grandma I was telling him my grandma's I told my grandma was I told my grandma wasn't. My grandma wasn't like that. My grandma's just when they should be shootouts I was I told him shoot out of my her my grandma's a run to the window to see what was going on they explained to us yeah man the boy was running the boy caught the boy across the street him run my grandma was to break the whole story down so you had some old heads I was like that yeah grandma was hustling my grandma not just hustling my grandma was showing you said man my mom my mom's like It ain't jellin' or nothing. Like any one of my aunt you see, my older cousins, they've been a prison, like, you know what I'm saying? Like real prison, for real, like, what time? Like, what time? Like, I've been going to jail so I was a juvenile. What time? Like, I was, I sat for a murder, what time? Yeah, so I sat for a murder, four years, but I had to cop out to a gun that gave me a five, I had to a mandatory five. is mandatory with fighting my murder case that was facing like a hundred for that shit you feel me because they gave me like a gang RICO charge it was a state RICO you know what I'm saying it's called gang criminality I had that and if I would have blew trial I'd have got like a hundred know what I'm saying so but that's that time I did five that's the most time I ever did was five and then when I came home I was home I was home for like four years when the music on my own we did a record I probably go to Miami a couple days after we do the record he just called me like yo what's up you're in lust shooting the video yeah I'm like damn my nighmy he's like I a yeah but we're shooting the video right now I'm gonna hear you scyow I'm in mia me Because the two terrorists I know is Roddings and LBI. The first time I met this nigger, let me see if you remember. The first time I met murder, right, boom, like Flex did some shit like Flex was messy as hell. It's like 2016, 2017, I'm fresh on for a murder and shit, right? So I'm going though, I'm buzzing, I'm doing my thing, they hear me popping. So Flex put like all the artists from like the Trieste on a flyer and he wanted everybody to come through. I'm talking about. some rat shit you feel me all these niggas do what the other niggas who Troy I was a beef with before that shit menolo roll moves all of us on the flyer every artist like that was buzzing at that time was on the flyer right so I come there shit that's where the guy we come there you squat you got Jersey the hooligans because you know you got a play you got police is just like pop police is just like pop police everywhere I'm like damn n i think everything. He's trying to figure out what car I mean. What cars will be out? So I finally get out the car, they don't know a car, man. I jumps into, I walks into the club, murder sitting right there. He like, I know what you're going to do by nigg. He's like, I know what you're going to do by nigg. He said, that was just me. I'm going to change the fact. I'm going to that. I was in my boy white at that time. That's the fact. I'm going to go. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to that. I'm going to. I'm going to that. I'm going to. I'm over, worded up, that's, my cousin called, that, da da da da da. We're like, y'all, I know what you go do, my nah. I swear to the girl, bro, like, damn, this is gonna be gonna' least been on you. Yeah, they're gonna' what? Hell, yeah. We used to have the ride like five cars deep and they had a, like, the president, put me in the middle, and they got to figure, man, I'll see, I'll see, I'll see you in the project, I'll, I'm gonna' a, I'm gonna' a, I'm gonna' a, I'm gonna' a' a' a' a' a' Like I see you the type of nigger pull the truck the foreign's up you and your niggas I see you on the projects you doing shit and the police trying to stop you it seemed like you the niggles like I love seeing that shit yeah yeah it's like police still fuck with you but you changing your life you to the music now you know what I mean so how they fuck with you crazy in Jersey I know that it should be crazy in Jersey I should be crazy because it's like it always come from the higher ups because they hire us remember me when I was in the streets when I was in the streets you know what I was in the streets you know what I was in the streets you know what you know what you know what you know what you know what you know what you know what you know what you know what you know what you know what you know what and he probably the captain now, Sarge now. And he remembered me. A n-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-cha'a-a-a-cha'a-cha'a-cha'a-a-a-cha'n'n'a-cha'a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a I don't get more popular than want to they don't believe it they don't believe that now this thing is a rapper now get the fuck out he was rapping back there shoot people you know what I'm saying they don't believe the shit you feel me so now it's like we don't believe that so now when I'm doing something in the hood doing stuff in my community they talking all this crazy shit about permits and all of that shit when the politicians don't fuck that's really fans of mine. You know what I'm saying? They really fans of mine, these new officers and they like, yo, don't let Al we do nothing. That's why they always come to me like, oh, man, we fuck with you man, but these guys. Right. They got out for you for real. But you fuck this daughter or something. Maybe bugging, I'll be bugging, bro, I'll see you giving toys and kids. All the time. I don't miss, that's just three, that's just three, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's. That's. That's. the hood, like regardless, you know what I'm saying? I mean I had food trucks pulling the hood, feed the whole projects on a regular on a Monday, let's do it. You feel me? I do that shit regularly, you feel me, but they don't care about that shit. They just hate to see a motherfucker succeed, bro. I've been winning. You know what I'm saying? They hate that shit, but when did you know you had the jails kind of locked, because every one of my home. nigh us in there rock with man we rockin with albie yeah right right boy the truth so when did you know that was you ever locked up in the and what your name was popping hell yeah how yeah that feel right there so as I'm in there is so the first time when like when I first started doing the music just start working when I went to jail for um homicide or whatever it's shit I went to jail for that I'm in there so as I'm in there is crazy is crazy is crazy is like my name to start going crazy in the streets so people people Gosh, it wasn't on the kiosk and said the jail platforms. You will spit bars in jail too, like what do you know, I play around? Like I used to niggas put the lock up on me, I bet, I'm battling it, I'm battling it, you know, I just can't do that yelling in my face, you telling you what I'm doing, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna do to my, man, I can't let nobody yell in my face telling what they're gonna do about. Do you, do to me or my kids, do to me or my kids, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, facts yeah I don't know man I'm a cancer man my motion is different same here salute to them for that so salute to them for being able to do that so that's why I can't do the battle rap shit but but when I was in jail it was just like my name was like I'm seeing this shit like and then people on the phone with they're playing music so I'm like if I make it out of this shit I could know I mean I could do something I could do something with this shit serious so that was just my four black pan like I mean if I mean if I mean if I'm if I'm if I'm if I'm if I'm home 2015 I beat my case on 2015. I just started doing music and then it started working I was on the radio in three months you feel me I'm like oh this shit really good work and I got on the radio for some crazy shit we were fighting how fast did the gazzy check in because I see you get the gazzy and everything up the call I had shot out the gazzy trying to get me, you know what's crazy, always trying to get me like sign with everybody. He was sending emails and messages. He hit up, Yo, Gotti before, like, yo, you're walking for a street nigga. Albee, yeah, he had up Gucci before, thank God, you know what I'm saying? You were the guy Gucci the Gucci belt. He was hitting up these niggas. You would have pulled. You would have heard up, you feel. You know what? You. But like gazzy just like he's seeing my numbers and shit jail numbers though That's what made them like yo what the fuck? This was what murder was telling me I heard you because because you got to look rest in peace the case slate Shout the breach here in the building two new arts Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah, yeah um rest of piece the case slate I remember was straight stunt magazine when magazines before online and everything how much he was selling so the effect you had was sort of like the same thing like I know nigg like I know niggas in his ways and murder was like no this niggas right here is the niggas bumping in the jail and people don't know how hard it is when you go to prison or go to jail because you went to prison in jail you know what I mean this is a difference right because island is it's fucking jail adicus prison you don't know that you know what I mean you know what I mean but when you go to jail and still could keep your name being the artist but really more of a street nigg you know what I'm saying like tell people crazy because it's like it's like I'm mainstream behind the wall like you know what I'm saying like like how like my niggas are tell me that like shout the off white and that's a fact you really my son off white bro like young niggas I'm in jail and I'm in jail and it's all the whole yard listening to is you the whole yard listening to is you the whole yard nigg you're like I don't know how you're a fucking holiday in there. Like this was my man telling me. I met along the way I met him to a feature he paid me for a feature. You know never got paid for a feature again because he's solid you know what I'm saying? It's my dog but I met that niggas like that and he just like so sometimes he'd be like so when you see me on the internet and I'm doing some shit like that he'd be like yeah niggah I was on the chair with I was on the max tail because I'm locked up for we on the max and it wasn't like before I'm so used to go in the jail. Tell them what life like in the max. This what I'm trying to tell you but I'm like, tell them what life like in the max. This what I'm trying to tell you but I was like, I wasn't there on no max like what's max. So it's like when I'm on that. So it's like when I'm on that tail. I'm on that. So, I'm on the max you're locked. So, I'm on the max. So, I'm on the max. So, I'm on the max. So, I'm on the max. So, I'm on the max. So, I'm on the max. So, I'm on that. So, I'm on the max. So, I'm on the max. So, I'm on the max. So, I'm on the max. So, I'm on the That's on the police. That's on that shit. This is work. You gonna edit that one. No, we're not editing that. This is live team. This is the real point. Shout out to the real. Shout out to the real thing that's set out to police before. I'm one of them. So let's go. We gonna keep that. Yo Gabby, see. This what they gotta understand, right. No, man. This what they gotta' I'm gonna' know, man. You know. You know that right now. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This one. This one. This. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This They gonna look at this record, oh man, we gotta spend 10 hours. I gotta eat the money to get this one. This is 20 years ago, man. This is 20 years ago, man. This is 20 years. Listen, we know that, but look, this is the thing about felonies that get on my nerves. I'm just gonna keep it real, right? I think they get on everybody. What I'm saying, you're gonna look at your shit, and then. Yeah, you'll be in. Look, you're gonna' you're gonna' you're gonna' you're. Look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, about how he turned a con a con a man I'm doing a a con I'm just saying a con that's my man African look why he turned he turned water into wine right with 11,000 records to 5 million so you got Gabby with you he know how much you know how much that paper were going to cause for him of course with them felonies he's gonna be like you're gonna give the lawyer 10 20,000 to get to Australia but she gonna get in them countries though prodigy guy in Canada rest in peace back in the days. So you won't get it. Because you worked the back to what you were saying no being on the uh-uh thinking about the on the max the max. Yeah yeah so what was life like? Like what made me feel like I felt like I felt like a waste of talent you feel me because like I'm in there I'm so used to going to jail since I was a kid you feel me so it was just like I was in Germany. So what you was in Jersey? If I can't what you were like what you got what you got what you got? when you was locked up younger we got county jails we got county jails so you was locked up what 1516 um now came home to that I was home already I got locked up 2019 came home to doo22 you know what I'm saying so I was on max in there the whole time what all your shit was violent a ten murder murder a jail was everything was violent oh so you got violence all over the whole job oh regular shit but the niggas that was in there they just like they was talking to like one of the young boys he was like oh like damn you in here like you feel me you in here make me feel like I'm never gonna make it you know what I'm saying I'm never gonna make it out there because you was the person that we seen that was making it you know what I'm saying you know what I'm you was the person that I seen like you know this nigg you was the person that I'm gonna you're the star you can't you're the start motherfucker and I ain't never looked at it like that. You know what I mean? Then this is like the CO's, the CO's was different this time around. My last big because I was somebody. Before I was just a wild nigger. You feel me? They want to throw you on PC in wrong? Yeah, I know some rappers that was in PC. And I can't do that. Yeah, but you want to talk about that? Yeah, I don't know you wasn't. about putting me in no PC for what I'm gonna run the jail when I'm gonna flex why I get in there I'm somebody niggas no I'll be in there that rapper should go out the window niggas know we're like you feel me you feel me like you know what's said if I can't beat you're gonna be sure you know what's said if I can't beat you I got somebody that's gonna smash you you better you better believe that this shit for real what we into in the street you're the toughest like skin like skin like skin That's what these dark skin niggas gotta know. Let me tell you dark skin niggas. And it's the all- So you're shooting at the dark skin niggas. Let me get your niggas real quick. This what you dog skin niggas got to know about us light skin and us and us Hispanic niggas, right? It's that, is that the already in their mind, they think that when you light skin, a lot skin, a lot of you're run over. A lot skin niggin' I've been fighting this whole life because you looked at me like he's light skin he got light eyes I'll fuck him up and I'm gonna show you niggas no many fights I got called out the whole hood my project about to fight another projects they like we want to fight him because he's light skin I'm like oh yeah you pick call me out because it's like you feel me I can't wait it was like it was like it's light skin nigh it was like skin like skinniks we gotta worry about. Shout the dink, free dink. What's your hood? What's your hood? What's your hood you from? I'm for marrying projects, man. One of the most dangerous projects in the state of New Jersey, man. No cat, man. No cat, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. You'll love that shit, man. You'll love that shit, man. I'll love that shit, man. I'll love that shit, I'll be all that. I'll. I'll like that. I'll like that. I'll like that. I'll like that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll. I like I like the brain like like Kiss can't do that. I see I had Kiss and Benny out there for the video you out there for the record I had. East can't do that shit, Millies can't do that shit, Dusty Lokeen, can't do that shit. Some nus, no, nah, that's gonna'cadak