A 9/11 Story: 1. Neighbours

Intrigue

This episode explores the personal connection between a San Diego property manager and the hijackers involved in the 9/11 attacks. It follow

Key takeaways

  • Holly Ratchford rented an apartment to two Saudi men in 2000 despite their lack of income proof.
  • The hijackers' identities were revealed to Holly by a reporter contacting her for a rental reference.

Main topics

  • 9/11 terrorist attacks
  • FBI investigations

Notable quotes

I don't think I ever want to be as blindsided as I was by them not... being who they said they were.

Conclusion

A gripping look at how ordinary local interactions intersected with on

Transcript preview

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