Jonathan Vs. Kalila on Smash Boom Best

Heavyweight - Pushkin Industries

Jonathan and Kalela debate phone calls versus texting on the children's podcast Smash Boom Best, judged by young listener Ella. The playful, spirited exchange highlights emotional connection vs. convenience in communication. Both sides defend their preferences with humor and heart, ultimately celebrating mutual respect. The episode showcases how technology shapes human interaction, with both forma

Key takeaways

• Phone calls foster deeper emotional connection through voice and tone.
• Texting offers control, privacy, and reduced social pressure.
• Miscommunication is common in texts due to lack of tone.

Transcript preview

Pushkin. Welcome to the studio, Kalele Holt, producer. Thank you for having me. You know, I'm not saying that you should, but it would sometimes be nice to be welcomed into the studio, myself. Well, you've always just jump right in and start welcoming me. You don't really give me the opportunity. Welcome to the studio, Jonathan. Gee, I was taken unawares by that. We're here in the studio because we have something a little different. A special treat. Yeah, it's something that was new for both of us. Kalela and I, we were guests on a children's debate podcast. The show is called Smash Boom Best, and it's a favorite of your son, August, and it's a favorite of your son, August, if I'm not mistaken. Yes, very much so. Which is how it kind of got onto my radar. I started enjoying listening to it with him and the host Molly Bloom is kind of a a celeb in our household so I was a little starstruck. You know I'm always wary of children's programming because I hate the kind of like over-the-top smiley baby voice like too syrupy. Yeah but I started listening to the show in advance of doing this and I feel like I really enjoyed the show. They're talking to kids at like a level that respects their intelligence I would say Yeah and since we respect you our listeners intelligences it's why we chose to share this episode yeah with with you all we'll be debating phone calls versus texting I don't want to spoil anything we went pretty toe-to it got pretty heated during certain moments but you know we're here to talk about it we're still speaking to one another so the point is it's always better to use your words rather than a a knuckle sandwich to the throat of your adversary. Thank you for not giving me a knuckle sandwich to the throat. I deliver my knuckle sandwiches with words. Sans bea. We had a lot of fun doing it and we hope you'll enjoy listening to it. 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Listen to Medal of Honor on the I-Heart Radio Appel, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Universe. From the brains behind brains on, it's Smash Boom Best. The show for people with big opinions. Hi, I'm Molly Bloom. And this is Smash Boom Best. The show where we take two things, smash them together, and ask you to decide which one is best. Today we've got two ways of reaching out. One starts with a ring, the other, a ding. It's calling versus texting. Whether you like to type or talk, we're sure you'll have a lot to say about this one. Defending the tradition of talking on the phone, it's a host of the Heavyweight Podcast, Jonathan Goldstein. How'd he do? And here to hit send for the art of the text, it's Kaleleholt, producer of the Heavyweight Podcast. Hello, or should I say hand wave emoji. And here to judge this clash of the Communication Styles is none other than Ella from Oregon City. team plays flute and saxophone, loves to make art, and has lots of bracelets on both of her arms. Welcome, Ella. Hi. Okay, Ella, since it's a podcast, we cannot see your amazing bracelets. So can you give us a sense of the scope of your bracelets? I have probably like 25 on right now. Wow. Have you made all of them? I've probably made half of them. Incredible what are we talking about like string, beads, all of the above? Wow, do you have a favorite one? I recently made one with soda tabs and it's really cool and it's stretchy. That's very impressive. Just soda tabs? Yes, well and string. What is the oldest bracelet that you have on? I have one that I got in sixth grade and it says kindness ambassador on it and I have worn it for three years. It's amazing so the ones on your arms right now are they like an everyday you wear each one every day or do you change it up? Sometimes I change it up but most of them I might keep it on like all the time. So you also make other kinds of art besides bracelets what other kind of media do you use to make art? I love like drawing and painting and stuff but I also like music. Oh yes you play saxophone and flute so I'm wondering when you're playing flute versus when you're playing saxophone is there like a vibe shift that you feel or is it kind of the same? It's definitely different vibes because I play more like jazz music on the saxophone and then I do more like like popular songs or like concert music on the flute. So when you're playing the saxophone if you said hello and your like saxophone playing voice like what would that hello and your like saxophone playing voice? Well well well Ella sighed with texting or phone calls let's see first the rules of the game. Hello! of four rounds, the Declaration of Greatness, the Micro round, the Sneak Attack, and the Final Six. After each round, our Judge Ella will award points to the team that impresses her the most, but she'll keep her decisions top secret until the end of the debate. Listeners, we want you to judge too. Mark down your points as you listen. At the end of the show, head to our website Smash Boom. And vote for whichever team you think won. Okay. Kale. Kalea and Jonathan, are you ready. I hope so. Already too. Then it's time for the declaration of greatness. In this round our debaters will present a well-crafted immersive argument in favor of their side. Then they'll each have 30 seconds to rebut their opponent's statements. We flipped a coin and Jonathan you're up first. Tell us why we should answer the call of talking on the phone. What's the sound of being loved? No, that's just body plumbing. Is it someone saying I love you? I'd argue actions speak louder than words, which is why to me the sound of being loved is... A phone call. It says, hey, I like hearing your voice. I like the way you laugh, your awkward pauses. It says I want to spend my precious minutes in real time with you. even if I can't be there in real life. A text just says, shoot, I just remembered you asked me a question yesterday and I'm going to write you back while I finish up on the toilet. Phone calls are efficient. Oh sure, texters will say a text is quick, to which I say, what are you rushing for? More scrolling to get to? But also, texts can be slow. times have you sent a question then had to wait for a reply like say you're planning a picnic. Hey Chad where should we meet? Come on right back. You could be waiting minutes or hours. You have no idea. Finally it's been three hours. Okay. Chad says meet at Minneaha Falls. Sure, but what time? Come on, just answer me. Meanwhile, the whole thing could have been settled in 15 seconds with a call. Hello? Hey Chad, where should we picnic? How about Minnehaha Falls? When? Six. Bring cheese and crackers? Nah, fruit and pizza. Okay, see ya. Later. That's efficient. crumpy or snarky. Texts are so easy to get wrong. Is Chad being sarcastic or a jerk? Oh, he sent an emoji to clarify. Cool guy with shades? What does that even mean? Plus, what a moticon