Dragon Avatars: Dinosaurs, Fallen Angels, Reptilians & The Bone Wars

Free The Rabbits

Host Joel Thomas explores the speculative connection between biblical Seraphim and prehistoric reptilian creatures like dinosaurs. He propos

Key takeaways

• The host identifies as an Old Earth Creationist, believing in billions of years of existence prior to Adam.
• Seraphim are linguistically linked to 'burning' and 'serpents,' potentially explaining the fire-breathing nature of dragons.

Main topics

• Seraphim and Reptilian connection
• The Bone Wars of paleontology

Notable quotes

Everything's not fake. Everything's not real. The truth lies somewhere in between.

Conclusion

The episode provides a provocative synthesis of religious text and fri

Transcript preview

Speaker 2 (0:04) Guys, Speaker 1 (1:59) this is Joel Thomas from Free the Rabbits, and how are all the free-range rabbits doing out there today? The merch shop has some brand new items you have got to check out. There's a new Genesis 6-4 Nephilim t-shirt and hoodie just in time for the fall, and a new 2 Samuel 2320 Lion-like Men of Moab shirt and hoodie ready to go as well. Definitely go by freetherabbits.myshopify.com to check out those new items plus much more. It's a good way to represent not only Free the Rabbits podcast, but to let people in on the secrets of the Bible and the weird world around us. Also, do me a favor and help me out with something to help the show grow. It takes only a few seconds of your time and it's free. If you're on Spotify, please give me a five-star review. And if you're on Apple Podcasts, give me a five-star review and write a note to go with it. You have no idea how much this helps the podcast. Also, if you're interested in donating to help the show grow financially, go to buymeacoffee.com slash free the rabbits and either purchase a monthly membership or you can give a one-time donation. And if you message me there, I'll be sure to message you back. Thank you so much. Now, let's get into the show. What's up, guys? We are back with another episode, and we are going to get into a very interesting topic. We're going to talk about dinosaurs today. We're going to talk about dragons today. We're going to talk about reptilians today. We're going to talk about old Earth. We're going to talk about what specifically that dinosaurs are. Now, I know right now there's some people who are probably like, I'm just turning this off because dinosaurs aren't real. And I know everything that happened during the Bone Wars. And I don't believe anything the Smithsonian has to say. I want to preface it with what I always say since I started this show. Everything's not fake. Everything's not real. The truth lies somewhere in between. Now, I do agree with you. I don't believe everything that's coming out of the Smithsonian by any stretch, specifically when it comes to giants and many things that they've supposedly covered up over the years. But when it comes to dinosaurs, I do think that there is some sort of middle ground here, and I don't think it's what they're telling us it is, but I do think that there are bones that exist. However, I do know that what they show us is not what they have in the back. So I think that's where a lot of people have this idea that it was made up to prove evolution. Speaker 1 (4:42) Me being an old earth creationist, I think that billions of years existed. So when it comes to what these things were and how long ago they existed, it could very well be in a timeline that they're talking about. However, I don't believe that they were the product of some sort of evolutionary chain that came from some amoeba and some Big Bang by any stretch. Again, I understand people that are young earth creationists and I don't have an issue with it. As a matter of fact, when it comes to the point of Adam to us, I am typically in the 6,000 to 10,000 year range. When it comes to before Adam and things that existed before then and the earth that was before that, I think we could be looking at billions of years. And I encourage you to go look at. any of my work on old earth. I go into a lot of those details, which we won't go into today because we got some other things to cover when it comes to what these reptilian beings were in the past. And I think to get there though, we need to talk about a reptilian angel, an Elohim called the Seraphim. Now, if you remember my work that I did on Lucifer being the hybrid angel, the first hybrid, then you'll remember me talking some about the seraphim. We're going to go a little bit further today, and we're going to talk about its connection, obviously, to the Nakash, but we're going to talk about what that has to do with the previous time, even before the Eden era of Adam, right? Because I believe that Eden was long before that as well. And I think, in my opinion, that Eden... lies somewhere in between this other realm and our realm. And I believe that there was a blockage that stopped us from being able to get through there. And that's a whole other subject for another day, which I plan on doing that. But let's get into the seraphim. Now, they are a celestial or heavenly being, and they originate in ancient Judaism. And you'll see them talked about in... Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, but we're going to talk specifically about Christianity today. Now, if you'll remember, I talked about angelology, right? We talked about what pseudodionysis of the Areopagite and what Thomas Aquinas talked about and kind of this... hierarchy, this order of angels. You know, the first order is the seraphim, the cherubim, and the thrones of the aphanim. And then we have the middle orders, the dominions, the hachmalim, the virtues, the malachim, and then the powers. And then we have the principalities, archangels, and then our messenger angels or guardian angels, which would be at the bottom. But our seraphim are at the top, and there's a reason for that. because the Hebrew word seraph means burning, and it's used seven times throughout the text of the Hebrew Bible, and it's usually used to denote serpent. So it's also used twice in the book of Numbers, which we're going to get to, and we're going to talk about it being used in Deuteronomy as well, and then also the book of Isaiah here in a second. Interesting that the word seraph means burning, right? If we're going to talk about Whatever these dinosaurs, these dragons were, we know throughout many different cultures, they were said to do what? Breathe fire. So if we are to surmise that they have something to do with these seraphim angels, these serpentine angels who are at the top of the hierarchy, then they could be some sort of hybrid of that. And they would get some of these attributes. from these angels. So I automatically think about fire breathing when I think about that. And again, when it comes to dinosaurs and what the mainstream tells us what they do, they obviously never talk about them breathing fire. As a matter of fact, we only have an idea of what they could be from what they give us. Now, I want to say this, what they show us in films and what they show us in media, I believe, falls in this. line of predictive programming, sometimes revelation of the method, that they want to show us what they're already doing. And I find it interesting every time they put out a new Jurassic Park movie, what happens? There's a large contingent of people that come out and say, oh, they're trying to brainwash us. Dinosaurs didn't exist. You guys are just believing a bunch of mainstream hogwash. My rebuttal of that would be that maybe they're showing us things that they're doing behind the scenes for real. You don't think that there could be an island somewhere where they're experimenting and they have creatures on these islands, remote islands that we have no idea about that are not on the map. I think that there is a good idea that that could be happening. Again, I don't have any proof of that. And again, I could go through some historical accounts of some of these islands that have been supposedly found by people or even moving islands, right? However, I'm just bringing up the idea that they could be showing us things that are actually in existence that they are manipulating genetically. behind the scenes. We just have to keep that in mind, right? But I do think that what they show us of whatever these large lizards or reptilians are, they're not giving us the full truth, right? And we look throughout different cultures and we know what they say about them. We know that they say that they can fly as well. So I think that let's keep that in mind as we go today, but we have to figure out the origins of them, right? Where did they actually come from? So let's start looking at scripture and we want to look at the seraphim and as we dig further into them. what they are and what their attributes could be. Let's look at Isaiah 6, 1 through 4. In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord seated on a throne high and exalted, and the train of his robe filled with the temple. Above him stood Seraphim, each having six wings. With two wings, they covered their faces. With the two, they covered their feet. And with two, they were flying. They were calling out one to another, Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts. All of the earth is full of his glory. At the sound of their voices, the doorposts and threshing holds shook and the temple was filled with smoke. I find it interesting that people point to this and say, well, it doesn't say they look like serpentine angelic beings. Well, yeah, they say that their faces are covered with their wings and they say their feet are covered and two are used for flying. So they actually don't denote what they actually look like. Albeit the cherubim, we do know what they look like, at least the four. faces that they possess. So I find that interesting here, but we always find this word seraph tied into serpent. And we know that it's also tied into nakash, which we'll talk about here in a second too. So let's look at numbers. Let's look at numbers 21.6. Then the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people and they bit the people so that many people of Israel died. So we see that fiery here is haserapim, and that denotes the connection to the seraph. But we also look to serpent here, and that is harakashim, and that stands for serpent, but also shining one, which ties into the root word nakash. And we know about the nakash because the nakash shows up in Genesis, and that is the being that is tempting. Adam and Eve. And I'm going to talk about some other ideas of what this being could be today, because we have talked about this being an actual seraphim, which they would have been very comfortable seeing in the garden. Albeit, there are some other ideas, and we're going to talk about this dragon avatar idea when it comes to the seraphim and their connection to that. this nakash. So we have to look at it from the angle of that it might not have been an actual seraphim in the garden, which I'm still in the camp of it absolutely could be. But there's another layer that I've been digging into here recently where it might not have quite been an angelic being either. It could have been a derivative of, and we have to look at that idea here as well. Now, we know there are numbers that the Israelites are disobeying the Lord. That's why these fiery serpents, these seraphim, these dragon-like beings are attacking them. But let's look to the next verse a few verses later and what it says. We look to Numbers 21.8, and the Lord said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole, and it shall come to pass that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall... live. And the word there is seraph, and it means fiery serpent. So we know that's tied directly into the seraphim, and we know that a seraphim was put upon a pole. Now, I know some detractors of the Bible will say, well, look at Yahweh. He's making them worship an idol, and why are they bowing before this thing? They're not bowing before it. They're trusting God because what is set upon this pole is the thing that's attacking them. So that's a very fearful object for them to look at. So what God is setting out for them to do is a trust me by looking at this thing that's attacking you and it will heal you from what you already disobeyed for anyway. So let's make that clear. They were already disobeying. That's why they were being attacked by these fiery serpents in the first place. So let's look at Deuteronomy 8.15, who led thee through that great and terrible wilderness wherein were fiery serpents and scorpions and drought, where there was no water, who brought thee forth water out of the rock of Flint. And the fiery serpent here is also Seraph. So this, again, ties directly into the Seraph. Seraphim. So let's look at Isaiah now, because this is where it's going to get interesting. Now, I already talked about Isaiah 6, 1 through 4. Now let's look at Isaiah 6, 7. They flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar. And he laid it upon my mouth and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips, and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged. So this is when Isaiah is having this vision. which I believe he had stepped into another realm. And this is this seraphim that has been sent by God to wash his sins away by Speaker 2 (15:32) placing this coal Speaker 1 (15:33) upon his mouth. Now let's look at Isaiah 14, 29. And it says, not do rejoice, Philistia, all of you, that the rod that struck you was broken from the root of the snake will come forth a viper and its fruit is a flying fiery serpent. And what Isaiah is doing in this verse, he is warning Philistia. not to celebrate the death of this oppressive king, but an even more dangerous oppressor is coming down the line. They are attributing this oppressor to these fiery serpents. And again, could it be a dragon that we're talking about here? Some sort of hybrid of the seraphim? Could it be the seraphim themselves, which it looks like in some passages, that's what it is. But it's all falling under this very lizard-like, very reptilian. thing that is directly tied to these seraphim, the seraph, and that's the word that's used here. So again, do I think