She's Destroying Their Marriage | Financial Audit

Financial Audit

This episode of Financial Audit explores the financial and emotional turmoil in a marriage between Cam, an offshore tankerman earning $110,0

Key takeaways

• The financial disparity between Cam's high income and Taylor's low earnings creates significant stress in their relationship.
• Cam's frequent absence due to offshore work contributes to emotional neglect and feelings of isolation for Taylor.

Main topics

• Financial inequality in relationships
• Emotional neglect due to long-term absence

Notable quotes

She immediately called the cops? Yeah. Oh my f***.

The only way I get heard is if I lose my mind.

Conclusion

The episode ends with Taylor expressing her intent to divorce if Cam fails to

Transcript preview

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Really, the only thing would be like an ultimatum, her leaving. But I don't think she cares enough to leave. I don't think she can afford to anyway. Speaker 2 (1:06) What are you trying Speaker 6 (1:07) to say? Speaker 5 (1:08) It's Speaker 6 (1:08) been Speaker 5 (1:08) 11 years and you haven't figured it out now? Speaker 6 (1:11) Otherwise is finally here. Sending waves to the personal finance world. This is officially now the best budgeting app on the market. And I'm giving you a special. deal to download, get a free trial to test it out, and then you get the monthly plan at a 33 % discount for the first three months or the annual plan at an insane discount. And most people sign up for the annual version because it saves a lot of money and you get my detailed 30-day meal plan signed by me mailed directly to you plus the digital version of my cookbook for each recipe. Speaker 5 (1:37) Don't miss the opportunity of a lifetime. Download Dollar Wise and start your free trial. Speaker 6 (1:40) Go Speaker 5 (1:40) to dollarwise.com or click the link below. Speaker 6 (1:44) I want you to be on the next episode of Financial Audit right here in Austin, Texas. If you think you have interesting finances with an interesting personality or a story or a life or relationship, I will personally pay you to take time off of work, fly you down to Austin, get you personal transportation, a hotel, food, and we'll have a great time hanging out. Go to calebhammer.com slash apply or click that link in the description below. Speaker 4 (2:05) Hi, I'm Taylor. I'm 35. I'm Speaker 5 (2:08) Cam, 34. We're from Central Arkansas. And Speaker 4 (2:11) this is Financial Audit. Speaker 6 (2:14) Yes, Speaker 4 (2:14) it is. Thanks for coming over. Speaker 6 (2:17) Taylor, what do you do for a living in central Arkansas? I Speaker 4 (2:20) work from home processing workers' comp claims and basically feel like a single mom living there because he's gone all the time on a boat. Speaker 5 (2:30) I work on a boat. Oh, okay. Speaker 6 (2:33) Well, that would explain why you're on a boat. Yeah. Speaker 5 (2:36) Offshore. Hold Speaker 6 (2:37) on. I'm not asking you any questions, but I'm glad you're excited to talk. I still need to know what you're making. Because you didn't let me answer that. You immediately started talking about him when I was just talking about you. Yes, and your job, the job that you work from home. You made sure to clarify that you work from home. I work Speaker 4 (2:53) part-time right now. I make like... From home! Yes. $400 every two weeks. Because, you know, being at home is overwhelming. Speaker 6 (3:01) Me. Is it? Yeah. Speaker 4 (3:05) No, maybe not just that, but everything else, yes, definitely feel really overwhelmed and all by myself. Speaker 4 (3:13) All the time. Speaker 2 (3:19) That was the right Speaker 5 (3:19) thing to do, Peter. Speaker 6 (3:21) I think I would also abandon the house quite frequently if this is what it's like at home. Okay. How much part-time is part-time? Because that's very part-time to only get 800 bucks a month. Speaker 4 (3:33) 20 hours a week. Speaker 4 (3:36) So $15 an hour. So something's really built up, hasn't it? Because you're really just kind of Speaker 6 (3:42) coming out of the gate with this. You didn't even let me ask what's going on. You're just like, okay, here's my chance to just be a... Okay. Speaker 5 (3:56) Yeah, I work a month on 12-hour days plus, 19-hour days. Yeah, on a boat. Speaker 6 (4:01) Okay, Cam. Yeah, tell me about this boat. Go ahead and just say the stuff you just said again. Speaker 5 (4:06) So I work inland. We go pretty much Texas to Louisiana, back and forth, moving. Doing what? Speaker 6 (4:14) Moving crude oil pretty much. Okay, what are you? What's your job? So Speaker 5 (4:19) I'm a tankerman. I load and discharge barges. Love it. Just went to school to get my pilot license. So I'm working on getting my pilot license right now. Really? Yeah. I'll be driving the boats instead of... Oh, Speaker 6 (4:34) that kind of piloting. Right. I was going to say, I would not appreciate if you walked on a plane that I was on and then piloted it. Speaker 5 (4:42) That's my credo. No regrets. Speaker 6 (4:46) Okay. What do you make in this job? So Speaker 5 (4:49) I don't make hourly. I make day rate. Okay. And my day rate is 385 right now. Sure. Speaker 6 (4:58) So what does that come down to monthly? Your average month. Speaker 5 (5:02) So it's kind of... I work. Your average quarter? Well, okay. So I work. Average year. 28 days on, 14 days off. That's Speaker 6 (5:12) wonderful. What do you make? So Speaker 5 (5:13) it changes every month. Speaker 6 (5:14) Great. That's why I said, how much a year? A Speaker 5 (5:17) year? Roughly like $110,000. Wow. We're Speaker 6 (5:22) complaining about that. That's interesting. You know these people that go and they go work on the all fields out in West Texas? Those that go work in the golf on the rig. Or those that are, you know, out there working in the fishing boats and doing things like he does. You know, they make a lot of money. And the reason is, is because, yeah, a lot of people don't want to be from home. But then they do it and they make a lot of money. And that's what he's doing. Oh, I Speaker 4 (5:46) definitely appreciate the money. But being home and working 24-hour shifts with everything else that has to be taken care Speaker 6 (5:52) of. Speaker 4 (5:52) You Speaker 6 (5:52) get the Speaker 4 (5:52) money with the Speaker 6 (5:53) job. How do you think money comes? Stop smacking your lips. How do you think money comes? Speaker 4 (5:57) I mean, it has to come from where? Oh, she's still smacking her lips. Speaker 6 (6:00) Do you have a drink of water? Speaker 4 (6:01) I do. Speaker 6 (6:02) Let's consume a lot of that. She's even smacking it just like smiling. That's crazy. Okay, great. I mean, you're killing it, dude. Is that what's your account on a yearly basis, $110, or is that before taxes? Speaker 5 (6:14) That's before taxes are taken out. What are Speaker 6 (6:16) we going to take, like $75 maybe? Yeah, Speaker 5 (6:19) $75, $80. So Speaker 6 (6:20) you're probably just averaging like $62,000, or sorry, $6,250 a month. Obviously, yes, up, down, I get it. So, okay, I really need to internalize this. Maybe even like drop myself because I'm a little... Speaker 6 (6:36) Break down your time away from home and then time at home because clearly that is an issue to this thing. Speaker 5 (6:43) So I work 28 days on the boat. Okay. 14 days at home. Love Speaker 6 (6:47) it. Speaker 5 (6:47) That's it. But I ride over a lot. So like I'll do, we call them hitches. I'll do usually like sometimes two hitches. So I'll be gone for like 28 days, my 14 days off and another 28 days. Speaker 6 (7:01) You said stay at home mom. That sounds Speaker 4 (7:02) like children. I do have two children. Speaker 6 (7:05) Very good. Ages. Speaker 4 (7:07) Well, one's almost. Stop Speaker 6 (7:08) smacking your lips. Speaker 4 (7:09) What is actually wrong Speaker 6 (7:10) with you? No, it's not. It's actually not. When I talk, I go before everything I say. I Speaker 4 (7:15) don't even notice that I'm doing it. Well, you're Speaker 6 (7:16) doing it. Ages. Speaker 4 (7:18) Oh, my God. I did it again. One is almost 16. We'll be in November. The other one. Did you make that one? Speaker 6 (7:25) No. Oh. Well, that's not his fault for having this job. No. The second one is, Speaker 4 (7:32) though, she will be 10 in a few months. Speaker 6 (7:35) And you made that one? Yes. At 24? 25. Speaker 5 (7:38) You're 34? Speaker 6 (7:39) Originally. Speaker 5 (7:40) Okay, so her birthday's in November. I mean, December. Whatever. Okay, that's Speaker 6 (7:44) fine. Was he doing this job when you had the 10-year-old? Speaker 4 (7:48) No. Speaker 6 (7:48) What was he doing? Speaker 4 (7:50) Working at AT &T as a call center. What Speaker 6 (7:53) job would you prefer Speaker 4 (7:53) he had? Speaker 4 (7:56) That's hard. What job would you prefer he had? Speaker 4 (8:04) What job perhaps would you prefer? I guess this one. Oh, that's interesting. Why Speaker 6 (8:08) the f*** are you? What are we doing? Bro literally goes and grinds his f***ing ass for 28 days. And then he has to hear your bitching and moaning about how he's not there for the next 14 when he's home? Speaker 4 (8:20) Yeah, because he only has one job when he's gone. The boat. I have 37 other things I have to take care of by myself while he's gone. Not talking to me half the time. So the Speaker 6 (8:30) alternative. is he can get a lower paying job at home. Speaker 4 (8:36) Yeah, but he doesn't want to do that either. Do Speaker 6 (8:38) you want him to do that? Speaker 4 (8:40) He ain't going to listen to Speaker 6 (8:41) me. Does it matter? Do you want that? Given the choice, do you want that? Speaker 4 (8:47) At this point, it would be really hard. But yeah, I mean, it would be nice to have some help at home. Speaker 6 (8:52) With less money. Speaker 4 (8:53) Yeah, that would make it hard. With less Speaker 6 (8:56) money. No, Speaker 4 (8:57) I don't need less money. Okay, Speaker 6 (8:58) so you are okay with it then. This is what you are choosing. Speaker 4 (9:04) Not necessarily choosing, but don't really have any other choice in Arkansas. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I do want both worlds. Because you're an impossible Speaker 6 (9:11) person to work with. I already know people like you. You're impossible. You want him to make more money, but you want him to have the job where he doesn't make as much money. So that he can do all these things. She's mad because Speaker 5 (9:20) she thinks, like, I make in one day what she makes in two weeks. Pretty much. You're Speaker 6 (9:25) jealous? It's a jealousy thing? I just feel a little bit pointless. Why do you think it's Speaker 4 (9:30) a Speaker 6 (9:30) jealousy thing? Well, yeah. Speaker 5 (9:32) I mean, you make Speaker 6 (9:33) $800 a month. Yes. Speaker 5 (9:34) I mean, she was full-time and then just went part-time like recently. Yeah, I was going to say, we're not taking care of f***ing infants Speaker 6 (9:41) at home. Speaker 5 (9:42) When Speaker 6 (9:42) she said stay-at-home mom, I thought she was like raising a couple, like two and three-year-olds. No. No, you got to, dude, they're basically, a 10-year-old is basically sufficient. They take care of themselves. They really do. And also, they go to school the vast majority of the year. I Speaker 4 (9:56) mean, yeah, they have a lot of extracurricular activities. There's no... programs in Central Arkansas. I mean, not this. Send them to Speaker 6 (10:04) summer Speaker 4 (10:04) camp. You're all Christian and I'm not really about that. That's also just not Speaker 6 (10:09) true. You can go to any summer camp anywhere. You guys make good money. You could fly them to any summer camp you want to. Speaker 4 (10:15) They could go get touched by a Speaker 6 (10:17) theater person and interlock them. Speaker 4 (10:20) I don't think they want to do that. Speaker 6 (10:22) Is it their choice? 16-year-old, they don't really care. 16-year-old, like, yeah. At that point, yeah. Dudes, make that piece of shit, go get a job. Speaker 4 (10:30) Yeah. Speaker 6 (10:30) But, like, the 10-year-old, yeah. I don't understand. What is the stay-at-home mom thing at this point? You're driving them to some activities here and there? Okay, great. That's wonderful. What? This is not a Speaker 4 (10:42) three-year-old. Speaker 6 (10:43) What are we talking about here? Speaker 4 (10:45) I mean, there's a lot that goes into being a parent. No one says there Speaker 6 (10:48) isn't, but the way you're making it sound like they're newborns and he's just not there. Speaker 4 (10:53) No, just a lot of responsibility that's all on me that he's Speaker 6 (10:56) never there. Speaker 4 (10:56) Okay, how much for Speaker 6 (10:57) the 16-year-old though? Speaker 4 (10:58) I mean, he has banned that he... We're talking about when school's in session, Speaker 6 (11:03) though. Yeah, Speaker 4 (11:04) I Speaker 6 (11:04) did band at 16. I drove myself to band. Speaker 4 (11:07) Well, he hasn't gotten to that point yet. He's not 16 until November, so it's been all on Speaker 6 (11:11) me. Speaker 4 (11:11) Why did you say Speaker 6 (11:12) 16? Speaker 4 (11:12) I said all on me. First of all, I drove at Speaker 5 (11:16) 15. Half the time he's Speaker 6 (11:18) at Speaker 5 (11:18) his dad's house, half the time he's Speaker 1 (11:20) at Speaker 5 (11:20) our house. If Speaker 1 (11:20) he's Speaker 6 (11:20) choosing not to, then he doesn't get to do all the fun stuff. That is the part of growing up and learning how to become an adult in your life. late teens. I Speaker 4 (11:27) mean, he has his permit and he drives sometimes. Oh, then there you go. Speaker 6 (11:31) Then why would you drive him? I'm confused why you're forced to Speaker 4 (11:34) drive him. Speaker 6 (11:34) Insurance is another Speaker 4 (11:34) factor. It's like $300 a month. Speaker 6 (11:37) I don't really give a f***. You guys make really good money. You can do that. Speaker 4 (11:40) Well, this hasn't been factored in yet, apparently. So that hasn't been an important thing. You're Speaker 6 (11:45) actually like a stupid person. So let me help you. May I have the whiteboard? I think I need to like do a little. drawing for you. Okay. I'm not trying to be mean, but actually I kind of am. Ooh, nice fresh pen. So there are two options here. There's your income stays here. Speaker 6 (12:19) where you don't pay any car insurance, or you pay a little bit in car insurance, and instead of driving him around, your income goes all the way up because you work Speaker 5 (12:27) like an adult. Speaker 6 (12:28) I mean... Girls Speaker 5 (12:29) are Speaker 6 (12:29) really confused because I grew up with more siblings than the household that you're in right now, and both of my parents worked full-time jobs, and we did this 100 % happily. Well, I do also go to Speaker 4 (12:39) college. There's that. Well, that's different. Speaker 6 (12:41) You didn't tell me that. How the f*** would I assume that? I don't know you. I don't know you. We're not friends. I don't know you. Speaker 4 (12:47) My bad. I guess I should have brought that up. Speaker 6 (12:50) Yes, context. Things for me to know would be good. So tell me about your college because that is good. That is good. I can appreciate college. Speaker 4 (12:56) I'm going for a nutrition degree, but I'm doing it online with Purdue Global. Why Speaker 6 (13:03) nutrition? I mean, they make okay money at some point, but it's a very competitive field. Speaker 4 (13:08) Right. I've kind of gone the own my own business route. Oh, you suck. Speaker 6 (13:15) You're putting this all on him who's actually going to make, like, working a hard job making real money, and you're honestly doing passion projects. Speaker 4 (13:22) Yeah, pretty much. How Speaker 6 (13:24) the fuck is this possibly his problem? I wouldn't be going so hard on you if not the first question I asked you immediately tried to throw him under the boat. This is fucking insane. Speaker 4 (13:32) Well, I feel like it's more his fault that we're in this position. How possible? Okay. Speaker 6 (13:39) How? Please, your turn. Speaker 4 (13:41) Well, because when I'm at home taking care of everything, I'm not spending any money except for on food and on basics, on things that my kids need. He's over there on the boat, scrolling his phone on his free time, buying whatever the hell he wants. Doesn't tell me about it, spending thousands of dollars, and then I look at the account and we have, like, I don't know, $150 left and three other bills that we have to pay for? Like, how is that my fault that he's just spending it and not telling me anything? Cam? Speaker 5 (14:14) But it's not like big purchases all at once. I affirm a lot of stuff. Why are Speaker 6 (14:20) you doing this? Because he's a idiot. Speaker 5 (14:23) I don't like to see the big numbers come out the account, so I'd rather have a bunch of little fragmented charges here and there. Okay, so leave them. Speaker 4 (14:31) I Speaker 5 (14:31) don't Speaker 4 (14:31) know. Speaker 5 (14:31) What do you want? Sounds like he recognizes he's a piece of shit. I don't know. I feel like money, it's not real. I'll get paid again. We'll figure it out. Well, Speaker 6 (14:38) I think Speaker 5 (14:38) food Speaker 6 (14:38) and college paid for and roof over the kids' houses, which are paid for by money. are very real. I Speaker 5 (14:46) feel like college, like, I'm not going to pay for my kids' college. You don't have to if you don't want to, but food and Speaker 6 (14:51) roof, I would encourage. Speaker 5 (14:52) I mean, food, I get that. Oh, that costs money. Utilities, that costs Speaker 6 (14:56) money. But those are Speaker 5 (14:56) the things that are always paid. Like, I mean, not like Speaker 6 (14:59) weird. If Speaker 5 (14:59) you spend all your money on things Speaker 6 (15:01) you don't need. Speaker 4 (15:02) They're not. So how do the conversations Speaker 6 (15:04) are? Speaker 4 (15:04) You Speaker 6 (15:04) literally Speaker 4 (15:04) get paid and like $1,000 will come out in payments. And I'm just like, how am I supposed to pay the bills when you have this much coming out in payments that I had no idea that was going to come out? And then I'm trying to juggle everything by myself and you're just on the boat having a good old time. Mm-mm. Speaker 6 (15:23) Okay, so how do the conversations go in this house then? Because clearly. Speaker 6 (15:28) There's a problem and you're both kind of recognize yet, but you have a big issue with it and even though you recognize you don't really seem to give a shit so tell me how this is talked about and this I Talk a Speaker 4 (15:40) whole lot and he's like a wall that I mean Speaker 5 (15:44) if I make the money like and I want something I usually get it At the end of the day, like, that's how it's going to be. I've always been that way. Like a father. Yeah. I mean, like, I didn't have a lot growing up. So, like, I want the kids to have, you know, everything they want. Is it all for the kids, though? Most of it. Like, probably 90 % of it is for the kids. Speaker 4 (16:05) But they probably enjoy, you know, not having to worry about money every two weeks, too. Speaker 5 (16:09) Do they Speaker 6 (16:10) know? No, they Speaker 5 (16:11) don't know. I Speaker 6 (16:11) mean, Speaker 4 (16:11) they know that I can't go do certain things that we usually, like. Not necessarily no-no, but they know that I have to cut back when I do. I mean, I have to cut back a lot. Speaker 5 (16:23) Yeah, Speaker 4 (16:23) but they Speaker 5 (16:23) enjoy doing the things we do. I mean, we'll go out, you know, take little trips here and there. We Speaker 4 (16:30) haven't taken a trip in a year because you've spent too much money. We Speaker 5 (16:33) went to Vegas. That Speaker 4 (16:34) was a year ago. Speaker 5 (16:36) I mean, last September. Speaker 4 (16:39) A year ago. Speaker 6 (16:40) Basically a year ago, buddy. Speaker 5 (16:42) Yeah, but then also worked from January to May straight. Like five months. I have no issue with your work. I'm not home. So like, how are we going to take trips if I'm not home? Speaker 4 (16:52) Or without money. Speaker 6 (16:54) Okay. Well, where does it, again, okay. So you try to talk to him and then what happens? Speaker 4 (16:59) He, well, if he's on the boat, he's, oh, I don't have service. Oh. He might Speaker 6 (17:04) not have service. I mean, I don't. I don't always have service. He can just Speaker 4 (17:07) check out. Speaker 6 (17:09) water dude and even when he does have service he might have to work it's a he Speaker 4 (17:13) just checks out he will like completely ignore the whole entire conversation that i try to have i mean sometimes for days Speaker 6 (17:19) sometimes both i understand on the boat it's different on the boat i mean at home we Speaker 4 (17:24) try but then he's always like oh i'm only home for two weeks i don't want to deal with this shit when i'm home that is just Speaker 6 (17:30) being an adult you do have to grow the fuck up you might have to have the conversation then Speaker 2 (17:34) You have to have it at some point. It's the same Speaker 5 (17:35) conversations over and over. Why do you think that is? You have that conversation. Speaker 2 (17:45) The Speaker 1 (17:45) city moves fast, but your vibe, that's different. Sharper, smoother, more alive. Speaker 3 (17:56) The new Speaker 1 (18:00) Honda City isn't just made to drive, it's made to feel. The new Honda City, all new vibe. Speaker 5 (18:09) And I'm not going to just keep going back to the same conversation. Why do Speaker 6 (18:12) you think the same conversation keeps happening over and over? Speaker 5 (18:15) Because she doesn't want to hear what I have to say. Okay. Speaker 6 (18:18) Okay. That's great. What do you have to say? Let's hear it now. Maybe. Maybe she'll listen. Maybe she talks over you the whole time. I don't know. I'm not going to let her talk. I am here as the third party. What do you have to say? What is your argument? What Speaker 5 (18:37) is the reality? So I'm gone. A month. I come in for two weeks and I don't want to have the same conversation about, you know, spending money or an argument that we had before I left out on the boat. It's like, I don't want to read this. Yeah, I don't. Well, Speaker 6 (18:57) hold on. That's not an argument of the argument itself. You're literally just arguing you don't want to argue. I don't argue at all. Speaker 4 (19:02) No, but that's why I feel so alone. Speaker 4 (19:06) Crazy. Speaker 6 (19:07) I mean, Speaker 5 (19:07) I just don't want to have confrontation. Yeah, but no Speaker 4 (19:12) adult conversations or help with any kind of decisions whatsoever because it's always so convenient that every time I try to talk to him, he's, oh, doesn't have service. Conveniently. Okay, well, Speaker 6 (19:22) that might actually be fair. That one I'm okay. For days? Speaker 4 (19:26) For days? He's on the wall. No, he texts about other things, but he won't answer me. I'll be like, what about that text I sent two days ago? Nothing. Okay. Zip. Speaker 6 (19:35) Okay. Does she nag you 24 hours a Speaker 5 (19:37) day? No. I mean, sometimes I'll go like two days without talking to her. Speaker 6 (19:42) Because I was nagging. You Speaker 4 (19:43) not Speaker 6 (19:43) talking to her. I'm saying her to you. I Speaker 5 (19:45) mean, she'll text me all the time, but not like really nagging. Like just talking about like things going on at the house, this and that. So Speaker 6 (19:54) why the fuck wouldn't you talk to her? Like I was gonna be on your side if she's nagging all the time and then yeah avoid your wife So no one wants so I were but if she's not nagging all the time then yeah deal with those as they pop off Speaker 5 (20:05) Six hours on six hours off six hours on six hours off. So I work 530 to let's say noon When I'm did Speaker 4 (20:13) you know that text only takes 30 seconds? She's Speaker 5 (20:16) on lunch. So like she can't talk all day And then when I get back on work at 530 at night, I get off at midnight You're usually in bed. I got you, buddy. But I'm not. Speaker 4 (20:29) I'm never in bed. And I tell you, you can text me even if I'm in bed. So I don't. And then if I don't have Speaker 5 (20:34) service, it's now two, three in the morning. I'm not going to sit there waiting to get service to like try to answer and have a full blown conversation. Because Speaker 4 (20:41) it's just not worth it, obviously. You might be, you know, have an adult conversation that might make you feel some type of way, possibly. So might as well just not. Speaker 5 (20:53) I don't know. I'm just like to the point where I'm like, I just, I'm going to crash out at work and then like, everybody's going to hate me. So like, I would rather just not deal with it, you know? Well, Speaker 6 (21:02) is that, is that your only response? You can't talk to someone, you just crash out? Speaker 5 (21:09) But, I mean, I don't want to have the conversations. Like, when she gets to that point, and I'm pretty much like, what happens is we get into an argument, and I'm like, I could just leave. Like, I'll go back to work then if, like, we're going to continue to argue about this. Or, like, I'll just work longer. You'd think it would be an argument Speaker 6 (21:27) if you actually went and talked. Because it sounds like you avoid all talking. You'll talk about the things at the home. But. Again, I was going to be on your side if she's literally nagging all day. Yeah, why would you ever approach her? That's not a safe place to talk. But the thing is, if here and there she's bringing up some things and the vast majority of the conversations are fine, then yes, it's your responsibility to participate in the f***ing household and threatening to leave is insane. Instead of talking? Brother! What are you on about? You're 34! Toddler. Speaker 5 (22:00) I mean... Yeah. On the flip side, it would help if maybe she worked full-time. Financially, sure. But if you spend all your money, Speaker 6 (22:10) even if you make good money, it doesn't matter. Because you guys already make really good money. We'll Speaker 4 (22:13) have even less time to talk if I'm full-time. So that would probably make you happy. Speaker 6 (22:19) Well, yeah, that's why he wants you to work full-time. Speaker 4 (22:21) Obviously. Speaker 6 (22:23) Yes. For sure. Okay. I mean, you're probably never going to work full-time because your business is like... Right? I mean, you don't Speaker 4 (22:31) have Speaker 6 (22:31) to go to college to start a business. What the fuck are you talking about? Speaker 4 (22:35) Like you said, it's a passion project. I trained to be a doula, which I don't even know if you know what that is. No, of course not. Speaker 5 (22:40) It's like doing like home births and stuff. Speaker 4 (22:42) Yeah. So I want to work with like Speaker 5 (22:44) moms. Why are you doing nutrition then? Like charity work. Speaker 4 (22:49) For an extension of that, I want to. prepare stuff for them after they have their babies or while they're super duper pregnant. Speaker 6 (22:58) But you had your babies 10 years ago and you're still fat. Speaker 4 (23:01) Yeah. So Speaker 6 (23:02) how Speaker 5 (23:02) are you helping them? Well, Speaker 4 (23:04) I mean, I don't have to practice what I preach. Speaker 6 (23:09) I mean, I do financially. That's why I do the finance show. You don't cook at the house either though, really. You said you're, what the f***? You're a part-time worker who works at home and has to take, you just complain about having to take care of the household, but you don't cook? Speaker 4 (23:25) Sometimes. When I'm not tired. Speaker 6 (23:28) Tired? You're tired because you're fat. I'm tired because I'm fat. Speaker 4 (23:32) Probably. Speaker 6 (23:33) Yes, nutritionist. Absolutely. But, I mean, other things can help too. Because he's not fat. Yeah. Sure, but that's not, I mean, that's an endless loop. If you're not willing to be healthy because you're tired, it'll make you even more tired and blah, blah, blah, blah. Speaker 4 (23:48) The whole vicious cycle, yeah. I mean, I don't feel like doing it because I don't do it. 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