Unsolved Mysteries + Camp Injury Updates - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/30

Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast

The Fantasy Footballers podcast episode discusses unsolved mysteries in fantasy football, including whether to buy the injury dip, the viabi

Key takeaways

• Jamir Gibbs and Bejohn Robinson are on fifth-year contracts and may be in a bidding war for new deals.
• Buying the injury dip has a 42% success rate, with 57% of players failing to meet ADP expectations.
• The streaming quarterback strategy is still viable with players like Tyler Shuck and Malik Willis.

Main topics

• Injury dip strategy and its effectiveness
• Streaming quarterback strategy in single quarterback leagues

Notable quotes

"I think the most realistic outcome is that they're an eight to 15 offense on the positive side."

Conclusion

This episode provides valuable insights into fantasy football strategi

Transcript preview

Speaker 1 (0:05) Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in Thursday, July 30th. Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway. Welcome into the Fantasy Footballers podcast at the FFBallers over on X, Instagram.com slash fantasy footballers. Jason's looking extra golfy today. That's a golfy shirt. It is a golf shirt indeed. I have golf shorts on and it is time to do the laundry. So wait, did you, we golf this morning and you showered? I did. I changed out of that golf gear into this golf gear. That's what I was wondering. So you switch from the gear you played golf in to the gear you're not playing golf in. Correct. Because of the laundry. Because I've worn all my regular stuff. But you keep an abundance of golf out. I have definitely purchased a lot of golf gear. Do you? That is one of the keys to golf. My shirts in my closet are outrageous right now. Because I had a wardrobe before I took up golf. And now I have an entire golf wardrobe. Do you change at the turn? Well, if I need to, yeah. I mean, you know, you got to bring an extra shirt. How often do you need to? Well, usually it's the mustard and the ketchup from the hot dog. So, yeah, it's pretty much every time. Hot dog bowl. And sometimes he drives home from the turn. Yeah. Yeah, sometimes you have to do that. I never turned around. wonder if Mike doesn't come to golf as much just because he doesn't want to follow the like decorum and rules of golf which which part like collared shirts and the collared shirt part is pretty weird to me it i assumed it bothered you well yeah because they're like hey your shirt looks just like mine like but that one have you seen what's going on with the neck holy crap that's a fancy shirt do you feel the same way about a like a fine dining not letting you wear like a hat or where and you have to wear a collar shirt in a restaurant too? That one, at least, I can vibe more with that one. Is it because of the like environment? You're all in an enclosed area. It's like when you're golfing, it's like, they don't see you. No. The only people who see me are the people behind me because I'm so bad and too slow. I don't think Al Borland likes the dress code either. Luckily, he dresses like a golfer all the time. I don't, but some golf courses make you wear a belt. I don't, I don't ever wear a belt. Why? Like you have to tuck in your shirt. shirt. And me and Kyle and Jason went to a restaurant once and I got turned away because I didn't have belt loops on my pants. I just can't stand dress codes, man. I mean, I've been in the restaurant where they made me take the hat off and what was under the hat was not good. It's like, you prefer this? And I was so self-conscious the rest of the time. We have a great show today, Unsolved Mysteries episode talking about belt loops. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't need a belt for the restaurant. I just needed belt loops. Oh, and I was wearing, I was wearing some, like, expensive joggers, but they didn't have wait a minute. You were wearing joggers? Yeah. What's wrong with that? I mean, at a fancy restaurant. That's like sweatpants. No, these aren't sweatpants. These are nice joggers. Or they made of sweatpants material? No. Where they made a... When you walk, does it go shh, no. That's the khakis make that sound too much. Unsolved mystery, some NFL news to talk about, and the Ultimate Draft Kit is here. Ultimate DraftKit.com. More updates to the draft tool have been made. We're getting the keeper support into those and some other tweaks and changes to the settings for you. You'll probably see new updates to the UDK every day or two for the rest of August. The draft analyzers is in there as well. Mike, you were going to add something. I was just the news. I mean, news is starting to pour out. Another, you're just saying you can get your news feed inside the UDK. Well, you can get your news feed. I'm saying for the changes. Like, you know, you had like the last month or so is really just a couple vibes here, there from some beat reporters. Now real stuff is happening, which like injuries. Always happens is the injuries. Yeah, that sucks. All right. Quick question of the day comes in from Adam in Los Angeles. Hey, ballers. How do you go about prepping for a live draft without a common ADP displayed and the randomness that can come from everyone following different ADPs. Should you reach earlier on players that you must have? Well, if you must have them, probably. Or should you trust that players should fall to their, quote, normal ADP? It's a good question. I mean, our main league of record, we purposely every, we have a draft room. There is no ADP sorting there. You come prepared or you don't come. and so we're used to this format where you are and I prefer it obviously we have the UDK that's what I draft with that's what I bring to my draft so the order of players I like are in there but I do pay attention to the ADP on that like our charts will always show the ADP of a guy I'm not going to reach two rounds for a guy even if he's like the next up in the ranking especially in the first half of a draft that's just malpractice where it's like you still want to squeeze as much value as you can. So you will take some risks of letting a guy go that you know usually goes later. I will say that you also need to know your league. I know in our league, we're a keeper league. Rookies? Yeah. Rookies, ADP, throw that crap out the window. If you want a rookie, you are taking them two or three rounds ahead of ADP sometimes. And so you just have to know that. That's not going to be the same in every league. Yeah. And positionally, like, you know, because we're in a keeper league, we know that there's a bunch of running backs that are kept, so all of a sudden that the shift of the supply of really usable running backs, it depletes rather quickly. So you have to know all those things, but have your rankings and just, I mean, just be ready. Just be ready to take your guys. Yep, absolutely. All right, let's talk news. News and notes from around the league. Okay, we have a decent amount to talk. about Jamir Gibbs, Bejohn Robinson, both on a fifth-year option contracts, rookie contracts, not practicing on Wednesday as they await new deals. Get that's money. Yeah, that will be happening very soon. I wonder, like, who's going to get it first? Like, what's the approach here? Are the Atlanta Falcons waiting. They're waiting for the Gibbs contract to set the baseline or... Oh, man, they should be talking. They should be a little delusion. No. The two general manager should be talking to each other. I believe that's called collusion. Yeah. I was thinking Bejohn and Gibbs should be talking. Whatever. Just go get the same contract. They're both going to get so much money. But I do. It is interesting the game of chicken of like whoever goes second gets more. Yes. Because they'll be like I want even if it's the quintessential, I want a dollar more. Yeah. Whoever signs first like the smarter franchise is whoever signs the first one to a contract. Bijon Robinson is 24.4 years old. Jemir Gibbs is 24.3 years old. Same drafts, same spot in terms of like the leverage is gone for both teams. Yeah, I mean, like Algiers gone and Montgomery's gone. They're in such identical situations. They're the number one and two picks in most fantasy drafts. There's plenty of times where they get paid. And right now they can't get hurt when they're waiting. Yeah, where a veteran player is holding out for a contract. And you're not sure if they're going to get it or not. There's no one unsure here. This is a situation where it's like just figure it out. Jonathan Taylor. Let's try that again. Who is that? John Tyler. A lot of all guys. He is at practice. He wants an extension as well. He says, quote, I have faith. There have been some good conversations, but I have faith between my agent and the front office. So he is not a hold in. That's one where if he was holding out, that would scare me a little bit more. He already did. like he did that years ago and then got the money, so maybe they have a better relationship now. Chris Solovei has no restrictions and his, quote, full go. We love it. Jordan Tyson participated fully in 11 on 11. Love it. You're not going to love this one. The 49ers news is always 49ers news. We already last show, Christian Kirk, not practicing. Right. No one wants to hear this. Ricky Pearsall, not practicing because of swelling, swelling. You're thriving. You're really crushing it today, Andy. My name is swell. Swelling? That's, I mean, I had French toast for lunch. All right. That'll do it. Someone told me to get a croissant. Do you feel swelling? Okay. Someone told me to get croissant French toast because they said it would be good. And then I did. Here's what's really funny about that. And now I'm not so swellness. Here's what's really funny about that. And now I'm not so swelling.. At lunch, you're doing just fine. At the end, Andy offers if anyone wants some eggs. Because we ordered from a breakfast place, and it was just some, like, healthy eggs. It was like scrambled eggs. And I literally thought to myself, wow, good for you, Andy. You went healthy. Oh, like I didn't eat enough. Like, you didn't eat enough, but all you got was like some eggs. Did you just find out I got croissant french toast? Yeah, I did. You should try it. It's so good. Kyle is letting us know that swellness is a rare archaic word, meaning the quality of being swell. Well, Ricky Pierce-Saw's knee is not swell. No. But it is swollen. Yeah. And the team says all options are being explored. There are concerns. He missed like six weeks last year with a PCL strain and then missed more time later with knee and ankle. And it's the same knee. It's the same PCL. And all options, they are the S word. Surging. Yeah, no, that's the fact that it is the same knee that he had an entire offseason for and it is it is you all right? Yeah. Did you have some French toast? No, I saw a funny slack message from you, Andy. You got me. Look, the issue here is it's already swollen up and it's the same knee that he struggled with last year. They are probably going to have to rest didn't fix it. I'm not a doctor, but I mean, the options are rest more. and pray more, and then hopefully it's fine, but what would lead you to think, oh, this time it'll work? That's a scary, scary proposition. I mean, the implications here, you know, Kirk, Pierceall, Mike Evans is. And Kirk is banged up. Mike Evans is tied with Devante Adams as the two oldest players being drafted in the top 72 in fantasy, the first six rounds. Those are the two most vulnerable to, you know, I looked at this. I looked at the old players that we've taken, the top five that we've taken over the last three years in the top 72 and how things worked out. And the basic conclusion is this, that if you have age baked in as a discount, they kind of can work out. If you're paying up for them, there's been some years where it can be injury. I mean, look at Mike Evans last year. He was a loss last year. He was one of the oldest again last year and it was a loss because of all the injuries. But, standing in the way of this is all to say standing in the way of rookie Deshawn's Stribbling is a 33 year old Mike Evans right now because Pierceall and Kittles hurt and Pierceall's hurt and Kirk is hurt and Juan Jennings is gone so and all the news has been so positive around stribling so yeah stribling is he's definitely a beneficiary here but also I do think I mean Mike Evans I stand a little bit more on an island. I mean, he is the clear one right now for this team is currently healthy. And I do think that there is, I don't know what your study was as far as injury dip based on whether where that player has historically gone or just what rounds of the draft. But obviously Mike Evans is not being drafted where he used to be drafted. No, no, he's priced where there's an age discount right now. Him and Adams are. So that's good. I mean, that's a good thing. You're not paying, you know, somebody like Henry, like we're not pricey. him factoring in age anymore. Like people just keep taking him at the top because he's ageless or so it seems. All right. There was also running back Jordan James who seemed like he should be the favorite for the running back two position for the San Francisco 49ers. He suffered a rib fracture. So he will be out some time which opens that door back up. And it's basically Kalin Black, their third round selection. Till he is hurt. Yes. But Garando is also hurt. You know that the electrical substation is, it's already doing some work. Got one. Two. Got two. We have Falcons quarterback news to a tongue of Iloa suffered a flare up. He will be out at training camp. Oh, that's not good. But don't worry, Michael Pinnock's is not cleared for 11 on 11, and it might