We Brought a Scholar to Explain Ancient Prophecies About Today’s Wars ft Rahmathulla Qasimi

Erci Malayalam Podcast

In this episode of Erci Malayalam Podcast, scholar Rahmathulla Qasimi discusses the historical intersection of Islamic empires and modern ge

Key takeaways

• Rahmathulla Qasimi discusses the historical connection between the Ottoman Empire and Kerala through scholars and trade routes.
• The speaker argues that political leaders should be judged by their actions and justice rather than their religious identity.

Main topics

• Islamic Empires
• Geopolitics of Israel and Palestine

Notable quotes

We are not enemies or friends of anyone.

Conclusion

The episode offers a profound reflection on how historical precedents

Transcript preview

Speaker 1 (0:00) Kewalam aara matram alla avar akramikam vannadu. I malapurtha naali kakamara matra akramikam vannavar alla avar. Mahanaaya Bapuji Gandhiji, 2021 inna samaran kanyapol enda paranyadhu, maapulamar ku samaran naikana ariyoola anna Gandhiji parayandi vannu. Uri muslim naamadhariya president undayittundu. Pascha uri muslim aya pradhanamandiri indin undayittu illa. Undaganam enna uvaashim nammana samadhi chattaram illa. Who is behind this? The channel people. Without the help of the channel people, our country will not have peace. Society is a piece of art without any intermediaries. Especially Muslims are a piece of art without any intermediaries. Speaker 3 (0:45) We have reached Kerala again. We are shooting a new episode. There are many geopolitical issues happening. We are paying attention to them. We are cutting down on many issues. We are following newspapers and social media platforms. We are cutting down on many issues. We are cutting down on many issues. Speaker 3 (1:12) पला प्रभाषणकल्लुदें, पला वेदिकल्लुदें, नमकु परनननतुला, अलिकले नमकु फोलो चेन्नर आलानेकल्य, नमकु अल्लावरुम् कान्टेट्न डावन्नर आलाने उस्तादु, रहमुत्तला कासिमी। इन्नामला ऊड़ा गेस्ट आयिते, उस्तादानुलाद� Speaker 3 (1:41) You are now thinking about an empire like the Ottoman Empire? Yes, an Speaker 2 (1:49) Islamic empire. Speaker 1 (2:16) निर्णित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रित्रि cheriyaayi muslim samoham, aa samoha shariram roopapattathu kundu matram, Islamino muslimil ko athendigamayi athu phalam chayuum, yenum namukku vekkan niruvaham illa. Awa churikkatili vallare pravajanadhitamaya uri saajariyaan innum logatil, prithechi muslimila samadhi chartulam. अन्यान उल्लदु। अन्यान एक प्रत्तेक शक्ति वनन तुकुन्दु एक प्रत्तेक शाक्तिक चेरि इस्लामिक पच्चत्ति उयरन्न वरयानु। निलबिल साहजर्यु वरड़रे कुरवान। Speaker 2 (2:48) अन्यान Speaker 1 (2:49) अन्यान वरी शक्तियोद शरीरु। येद उन्नेनु अधिन्दे रू I don't think there will be any special benefits. Speaker 2 (3:10) You can ask. Speaker 1 (3:12) Was Speaker 2 (3:14) it beneficial in the past? The MPAs Speaker 1 (3:18) have been beneficial and have been effective. Speaker 2 (3:21) Even if Speaker 1 (3:23) we talk about the Amavi Khilafat, Abbasi Khilafat, Seljukis, Speaker 1 (3:33) Mamlukis, Ayubis, Ottomans, etc. are the same. They are the same. Speaker 3 (3:40) They Speaker 1 (3:41) have their own kingdom, their own throne, their own worship, their own worship. They are Speaker 3 (3:53) the same. Speaker 3 (3:57) वे Speaker 1 (3:58) इदरे सिम्हासनतिली गिक्कनते मृहिद्यन्शेखानेकिल्पोलुम् संशेतोड़ मातरमे वीचिकान पादरुनाने येंड़ वीचान। Because, even if there are some qualities of it, there are many faults. For example, if the Potomac Empire was a criminal Islamic caliphate, it is never the case. If they have done right, they have done many mistakes. The people who have done it to come to power have no hands. Speaker 1 (4:35) Prathegichi 7, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, Speaker 2 (4:53) 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, Speaker 1 (4:53) 63, Speaker 2 (4:53) 62, 63, 62, 63, Speaker 1 (4:54) 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62, 63, 62 At the same time, Shah Jahan was in power after he had completely abolished his own brothers. There was no place for an emperor to be considered as an emperor. There was no place for a scholar to be considered as Speaker 2 (5:17) an emperor. Speaker 1 (5:19) We always stand Speaker 2 (5:21) at Speaker 1 (5:21) a central point. My attitude is generally that people who say something feel that we are their enemy. Here, they are the enemy. We are not enemies or friends of anyone. When we study history, we naturally depend on other's rights. Some people feel it as an enemy. That's all. Speaker 2 (5:55) I have heard that they have sent money to the churches in Kerala, and also to the Hijaz Railway and other temples. So they have a bond with Tamil Nadu. Speaker 1 (6:12) Muslim world, from the beginning Speaker 3 (6:14) of Speaker 1 (6:14) the 12th century AD, from the Speaker 3 (6:17) time Speaker 1 (6:17) when Speaker 3 (6:17) the Speaker 1 (6:17) Ottomans came to power, they have been trying to become Islamic revolutionaries. Sometimes they have Speaker 3 (6:27) done Speaker 1 (6:27) it Speaker 3 (6:28) voluntarily. Speaker 1 (6:28) Some people have done it like a drama. When it comes to that, some issues are natural. Speaker 1 (6:36) Then when Muslims become leaders or when Speaker 3 (6:38) they Speaker 1 (6:38) become Speaker 3 (6:38) good Speaker 1 (6:38) rulers like Samudhira, they have often tried to intervene in the politics and problems of Speaker 3 (6:46) that country. Speaker 1 (6:46) For example, Speaker 3 (6:48) in Speaker 1 (6:49) the Speaker 3 (6:49) beginning of Speaker 1 (6:49) the 16th century, the Vasukodikamayya and the Kerala League came to take over. At that time, there were Mahatma and the Thangamma, as well as the Arakkal royal family. Ii rāja-vaṁśamu nērathatthana khilāpattha aṁyīgīrīchittu ṇḍu. Āruḍe, Vattamanis ṇḍa khilāpattha aṁyīgīrīchāvara ānū, ṁrakka rāja-vaṁśamu. Ii paṇḍithanmārku ṣobāvikaṁāi, makkaimaī, ḍoḷya bēntaṁ uḷla paṇḍithanmārā, āyūrṇu akāyalaṁtthu nāmaḍa paṇḍithanmārā. Mahdum 1 manayayalu, Mahdum 2 manayayalu Makkai il padichavara. Makkai il avarade suvarna kala ana. 16, 17, 100 yanda okke Ottomans in de suvarna kala. Sobhavikamayi avaradamil vallya bandham nerate undayatundu. Namma naatil samudhiriya parata aaligal, ivaare vechi Turkiga ude sahayam abhyarthikoyum, Turkiga panan nalgayum. Adeparutane Turkiga aayidam nalgu, Portuguese kar kathiri aayidam nalgitundu. Europeans have been able to fulfill their obligations to the Europeans. They have done great services to the Speaker 3 (7:55) Europeans. Speaker 1 (7:55) Some of them have also been able to do some black jobs. They have helped us in the Portuguese-Indian trade. Our scholars have also helped us. Speaker 1 (8:12) They have been given weapons and money. Speaker 2 (8:16) Some people say that they have no one to ask about the Islamic world. How do you see it? Speaker 1 (8:37) They are not the ones who have been there in time. For example, Suleiman al-Qanuni. Speaker 2 (8:43) In Speaker 1 (8:44) the era of Speaker 2 (8:45) the coming Speaker 1 (8:45) of the empire, Suleiman al-Qanuni was the most important empire in the world. Salim al-Munnaam was one Speaker 3 (8:55) of Speaker 1 (8:55) them. They have developed such a great empire. Speaker 1 (9:02) Now, for example, today America has the right to rule the world. So, naturally, such beliefs have been Speaker 2 (9:14) used by the Speaker 1 (9:14) Ottomans for good and bad purposes. So, according to us, some of the British officials were very good. When there was a problem somewhere, they had the opportunity to deal with religious problems. Speaker 1 (9:29) पूर्णमायि धार्मिकर्येन्नु वरिक्केल वरि बर्णाधिकारिये परेखाँ पाड़िल्ला। संपूर्ण धार्मिकन्नु परैयुका चरित्ततिल्ल रेर केस। सुधियक उस्मान अली रुदी अल्लाहुनुम् अधे पोड़तन्ने उम्र बिन अब्दिल्लाजी रन्डामन Speaker 1 (9:56) So after four people, the fifth one is a descendant of the Sohabi, right? Whose is this? Mu'abiyya. But there is no Mu'abiyya as the fifth person in the Khilafat Rashida. Ralli Allah. Mu'abiyya is a good man. But there is none. You didn't understand what I said. Speaker 2 (10:15) There Speaker 1 (10:15) will Speaker 2 (10:16) be some mistakes when there Speaker 1 (10:16) are some qualities and qualities that are natural Speaker 2 (10:19) through a speech. Speaker 1 (10:21) They have been in many countries. Then you can come Speaker 2 (10:24) to the Speaker 1 (10:24) question you Speaker 3 (10:25) asked. Speaker 1 (10:26) A person who is a dharma lover in that situation, when there is a great Khalifa, especially a Muslim Khalifa, if things are revealed in front of that Khalifa, a listener who gets the answer will be there. There is someone who knows the things. Sometimes he will Speaker 2 (10:43) be the Speaker 1 (10:43) one Speaker 2 (10:43) to Speaker 1 (10:43) be asked. Sometimes he will Speaker 2 (10:44) be Speaker 1 (10:44) the one to be asked. There are things like Speaker 2 (10:48) that. Speaker 1 (10:49) There has Speaker 2 (10:51) been Speaker 1 (10:51) a person Speaker 2 (10:51) who Speaker 1 (10:51) is very eloquent in terms of asking and telling. Especially in 2008, when Abdul Hamid II was in Greece. After that, only the British government was in the war. In 1921, there was no real Ottoman war. Speaker 2 (11:16) It was a war. It Speaker 1 (11:17) was a Speaker 2 (11:17) war. Speaker 1 (11:18) It was a war. It was a war. It was Speaker 2 (11:21) a Speaker 1 (11:21) war. It Speaker 2 (11:22) was a Speaker 1 (11:22) war. Speaker 1 (11:31) I don't think there is a possibility of an ottoman. Speaker 2 (11:34) But the way they dress is different from the way they dress in the wedding. Yes, Speaker 1 (11:41) for example, the way they dress is different from the way they dress in the wedding. Speaker 1 (12:01) 2 18 years ago, there was a good person in our country, Sharaputhin. At that time, many children in the Nilebhur area were called Sharaputhin. He was a well-known police officer in that country. So it is a kind of reverence for Speaker 3 (12:17) people. So, Speaker 1 (12:18) Sharaputhin Speaker 3 (12:19) Sharaputhin was seen in Speaker 1 (12:19) the Nilebhur Speaker 3 (12:19) area 2 Speaker 1 (12:19) 18 years ago. Today, we don't see him there. So, Sharaputhin is a great person. Speaker 1 (12:28) That is a great worship. To give turkish hats, to give turkish clothes. All these are part of a great worship. I am not saying worship in the sense of a ritual. For example, a person named his child Rahmatullah Qasimi. A person Speaker 2 (12:46) who comes Speaker 1 (12:46) to Speaker 2 (12:46) our Speaker 1 (12:46) class, when he had a son, he named him Rahmatullah Qasimi. His friends told him, I am a big guy man, I am a big guy Speaker 3 (12:59) man. Speaker 2 (13:02) चरिकु नाय काते ना दु? । । Speaker 1 (13:04) । । । । Speaker 2 (13:05) । Speaker 1 (13:05) । Speaker 2 (13:05) । Speaker 1 (13:05) । । Speaker 2 (13:06) । Speaker 1 (13:06) । Speaker 2 (13:06) । Speaker 1 (13:06) । । । । । । Speaker 2 (13:08) । । । Speaker 1 (13:08) । । Speaker 2 (13:08) । Speaker 1 (13:08) । । Speaker 2 (13:08) । । । । । । Speaker 1 (13:08) । । Speaker 2 (13:09) । Speaker 1 (13:09) । Speaker 2 (13:09) । । Speaker 1 (13:09) । Speaker 2 (13:09) । । Speaker 1 (13:09) । । । । Speaker 2 (13:11) । Speaker 1 (13:11) । Speaker 2 (13:11) । Speaker 1 (13:11) । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । Speaker 3 (13:29) I heard that the ways in which the British were treated in 1921 were often not correct. Can you tell us more about that? Did you feel that the British were treated like a slave in a state that was so big? 100 Speaker 1 (13:49) %! 100 %! You should think very healthily. We should not say that even if we have enmity Speaker 3 (13:59) towards a department, Speaker 1 (13:59) we are not Islamic. Speaker 1 (14:04) That's all we have. For example, the British are our enemies. They are foreigners. Okay. But at the same time, the British Empire, which was not established by the Sun, was in the world in the year twenty-one. If you tell them that the four sons of Ayr in the eight corners of the country fought a war, they will say what faith is. I will not ask them for faith. But there is no wisdom. One person needs wisdom. You can ask me a hundred questions about Speaker 2 (14:32) this. Speaker 1 (14:33) No, I Speaker 2 (14:34) will tell Speaker 1 (14:34) you. Speaker 2 (14:36) I Speaker 1 (14:37) am not a person who accepts my wife as a Muslim. I am not asking for their faith. They are good people. But they don't have the wisdom. They need Speaker 2 (14:51) to be Speaker 1 (14:51) wise. Speaker 2 (14:53) They Speaker 1 (14:54) need Speaker 2 (14:54) to Speaker 1 (14:54) be one. They should not go ahead of a Muslim who is not righteous. I am in a position to protest against extremism. The youth is against me. I am not against Iran. I am not against Iran. I am not against Iran. Speaker 1 (15:29) चेक यरुन्न रीदि, वैकारिकमाय रीदि, वल्य वरी दुरंधम, मुस्लिम समुदायते कोर्णर वैलकेरिक पड़ान ला साजिर्यम उन्डाव्गुम् इन्नान। यान मैंसलाकुनुर। तिर्चु पोका। अधायद निङ्गल परण्यन्न पोले, वरी विश्यु उन्डा� Speaker 1 (16:00) One day, a group of people came and fell at the feet of the Holy Prophet. There was a man named Mundiri. He didn't fall at the feet. He looked at me, respected me, listened to me, and sat for a while. Then the Holy Prophet praised him. That's how it should be. Adayat Nebi yudeya kaalikal veela tettum unnu ayya. Nebi an, Nebi allahu, in de rasooli anna pradhinithi yaani sarvaso samarappika padayanda vikthiyaan. But a manischanu venndadhu, aadyamayi vigarapurathi veela nilla, vivegathowadu koo de chindikala. Pa annatho ori saajirathil nda paranyali, ye naali maapala maari, British kaaru odu vigarapurathi edirittaal undaavu, avarka marikaam. They can get the sacrifice. I am not against them. But at the same time, if someone needs to be sacrificed, they will be sacrificed. If he has a great desire to be sacrificed, he should not be sacrificed. That is what is sacrificed there. I don't understand. I am a martyr. If I become a martyr, my community will be in a state of distress. If there is a danger to my country, I should not become a martyr. If I become a martyr, I should not become a martyr. I should not become a martyr. That is the result. That is why I saved the lives of my community. Speaker 1 (17:37) You should understand what I am saying. You Speaker 2 (17:39) should Speaker 1 (17:39) understand. You are running after this new generation. I am not against Islam. Speaker 2 (17:47) But when you say 21, this is resistance. This is the British Empire invading our country. We should give a message that we should stand against it. We should not give Speaker 3 (18:01) them Speaker 2 (18:01) the Speaker 1 (18:02) opportunity Speaker 2 (18:02) to dominate. Speaker 1 (18:04) They are not only from the Eru and the Velluvanadu, but they are also from Speaker 2 (18:15) the Speaker 1 (18:15) Plas Speaker 2 (18:16) war in Speaker 1 (18:16) 1757. Speaker 1 (18:22) 1757 അന്ര്ര്മായു അവുര്ര് പ്ലാസ്യുദ്ധമ് ജേയ്ച് സിരാത്യുദ്ധവ്ള്ള്ള്യെ തോല്പ്പ്പ്പ്പ്പ്പ്പ്പ്പ്പ്പ്പ്പ They are the rulers of the huge Himalayan state, which is now the largest in India and Pakistan. They are not the only ones who have come to invade. Speaker 2 (19:00) They are not Speaker 1 (19:01) the only ones who have come to invade. They do not have to have any other intention. Speaker 1 (19:09) Mahanaya Bapuji Gandhiji, 1921 ఇన సమరం కెలుం పోలు ఇన తా పరంయితు మాప్పులమారు కు సమరం నేక్కాన అరీయూ లా అను గాందు జి పరెయం టీ వను. Samarathin aadindayathaya, Samarathin, Samarathin, Pudharanam paraya, Puri Samara redi aane aarudayathu, Samara redi aane Umarakkaali yudayathu. Umarakkaali yudathinu pohiyilla. Pagkara Umarakkaali enteeru, Nikudin nishetam, Adharan nyaya undu, Ayanar politics undu. This is the only right. You understand? We will not give the right to those who are in our country. We will not give the right to foreigners. There is a politics and a justice in this. Because you are not white. You are white. We are born in this soil. This is our country. We have to be born as our countrymen. आजिल जाधि मदा विथ्यास अल्ला, आर्कानि निधि उड़कुम्, विदालत्त सामुदिरि कोड़ती इरुन्नू, अर्कानि उड़कुम्, पच्चा वर न्याँगल्ड राज्यकार नाय परनाधिकारिया इरुकलं, निङ्गल्ड न्याँगल्ड राज्यकार अल्ला, न्य You are the ones who are coming to destroy the negative from here. So we will not give you negative. There is justice in it, there is politics in it, there is respect in it. In fact, the Alim Muslims could not see Speaker 3 (20:55) the matter through that respect. Speaker 1 (20:56) Alim is a good man. There is no criticism about Alim Muslims. But it took the Muslim community back. One. Speaker 2 (21:33) So, someone asked me if I could see what is happening in Palestine. Is it possible to see the power of Israel that is coming How? How? Speaker 3 (21:40) to attack us in the form of violence instead of violence? I Speaker 1 (21:48) don't know if you really understand what Speaker 3 (21:50) I am saying. Speaker 1 (21:58) They will be attacked by a small force in a small area. If they use weapons against them, they will naturally turn back. Speaker 1 (22:17) अवरे नम्मल चिन्दिक्के अवरको विमाम उन्डा इरिकण। विमाम उन्डावा ना विवल्यु विकारिया। विर नेदाव उन्डावनम् आ नेदावनम् कुरुआन सुन्नत्य अडिस्तानम् आ इरिकण। इत अन्नम् इल्लाद वरी युद्धतिले केटित्थ चाड़ान अगर चेयन पादे, अधुन्दु वल्ले दुरंधम सम्मुवतिन सम्भविकुम्। पण नम्मल वर आल ना जैलिल पोगलने काल प्रश्णम्, वर सम्मुवतिनी आशान्दत विरित्ति वक्कोईम्, अभगडम उन्डाक्यितिर्कोईम् चीयन। आईरकणकाय मुस्लिन पेन् Speaker 1 (23:03) I can be a good person for Ali Musil but I am a person of the religion. I will not accept Ali Musil's political views. He will not get heaven. It is not my matter that he will not get heaven. It is my matter that I will not accept Ali Musil's political views. Speaker 1 (23:25) One samuathinu dhushperu vannu. One. Two, there was a great evil in his name. That evil was not even mentioned in the parashya. That was the great evil. When Speaker 3 (23:40) a problem arises, it should be solved with Speaker 1 (23:43) wisdom. Speaker 1 (23:46) आ विवेगतिन्ने पिन्निल् वरी पर्यवसानम् उन्दाव। आ पर्यवसानम् तिगच्चुम् शुभकरमा इधिकू। इस्बिरू। इस्बिरू। निगल शमिक्कन। निगल बरणाधिकारिकल अक्रमिकल आयालो। फस्बिरू। निगल शमिक्कन। इलामताया रसूल अल Speaker 1 (24:15) I am a Sunni fundamentalist. Some Speaker 2 (24:23) people call me a Speaker 1 (24:23) green-rumped Sunni. I am a person who is in the centre. At the same time, if there is a person in Saudi Arabia who is my supporter, according to my support, he will support that statement. Speaker 2 (24:38) येदिरान। Speaker 1 (24:39) येदिरान। येदिरान। येदिरान। येदिरान। येदिरान। येदिरान। येदिरान। येदिरान। येदिरान। येदिरान। येदिरान। Speaker 2 (24:43) येदिरान। Speaker 1 (24:44) येदिरान। येदिरान। येदिरान। येदिरान। Speaker 2 (24:48) येदिरान। येदिरान। Speaker 1 (24:54) येदिरान। ये� मन्सिलाई ला । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । � Speaker 2 (25:34) I am not against Speaker 1 (25:35) Saddam Hussein's murder. I am not against the murder of Mu'abbur Gaddafi. I am against the murder of Saddam Hussein. But these two people are the same. They are both religious criminals. 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