The Murder of Nancy Ann Frenier (Rhode Island)

Dark Downeast

The episode investigates the 1961 disappearance and murder of Nancy Ann Frenier in Rhode Island. It details how investigators eventually lin

Key takeaways

• Nancy Ann Frenier's car was found abandoned near the James V. Turner Reservoir in 1961.
• Thomas Knott Jr. was initially arrested for a knife-point abduction attempt of a 17-year-old girl in Pawtucket.

Main topics

• The murder of Nancy Ann Frenier
• The investigation of Thomas Knott Jr.

Notable quotes

I don't want to do this again.

Conclusion

A profound look at how a single perpetrator's confession can force the

Transcript preview

Speaker 1 (0:00) Every case starts somewhere. A small town, a missing persons report, a family asking the same questions over and over. But sometimes a story reaches beyond its own community. Its impact extends further, calling for more attention, more conversation, and a wider audience. That's what Crime Junkie does every Monday. Ashley Flowers and Britt Prewatt cover the cases you can't stop thinking about, from unsolved murders to missing people. to investigations that still need answers. Because every new person who hears the story is another chance to uncover the truth. Listen to Crime Junkie every Monday, wherever you get your podcasts. Speaker 1 (0:45) A young mother disappears just days before Christmas. More than a year later, another woman is murdered across the state line. The cases seem separate, different cities, different circumstances, but eventually they converge around the same teenage suspect. What follows is more complicated than a confession and a conviction. It's a case shaped by questions of mental competency, Juvenile justice, changing constitutional protections, and what happens when one act of violence forces investigators to reconsider others that never made sense. I'm Kylie Lowe, and this is the case of Nancy Ann Frenier on Dark Down East. Speaker 1 (1:40) It was Friday, December 22nd, 1961, just three days before Christmas, and in Pawtucket, Rhode Island and neighboring Massachusetts towns just over state lines, people were squeezing in the last errands of the holiday season. For 19-year-old Nancy Ann Frenier, the list was pretty simple. Laundry, a few gifts, and done in time to pick up her husband William and their six-month-old baby. This would be their child's first Christmas. According to reporting in the Providence Journal, that December morning, Nancy drove William to work so she could keep their 1956 Oldsmobile for the day. Then she headed to her parents' house in South Attleboro, Massachusetts to drop off the baby with her mother. Nancy left her parents' house at around 10.15. She stopped back at home in Pawtucket and was seen leaving again sometime between 11 and 11.15 a.m. By about 12.30 that afternoon, The Freniers Maroon Oldsmobile was parked outside Mammoth Mart on Newport Avenue in Rumford, a section of East Providence. After that, the timeline goes quiet. William was expecting Nancy to pick him up from work, but by 5.15, she still hadn't arrived. He called Nancy's mother to see if maybe she had been delayed there, but she hadn't come back for the baby either. William borrowed a truck from work and started looking for her himself. checking their house, and then his parents' home. There wasn't much reason to think Nancy had chosen to go anywhere unexpectedly. Her family was clear this wasn't like her. William reported Nancy missing by 8 p.m. that night. The first police bulletins described her as 5'1", about 140 pounds, with dark brown hair and brown eyes. She had been wearing gray slacks, a white blouse, loafers, and an olive-colored coat with a fur collar. On her hand were her wedding band and her class ring. For most of the next day, there was still no sign of Nancy or the Oldsmobile. Then, at about 5 o'clock Saturday afternoon, the car turned up in Rumford, stuck in sand off Ferris Avenue near Central Pond, adjacent to the James V. Turner Reservoir. It was a secluded area, known locally as a lover's lane. The Oldsmobile was locked. Inside, police could see the evidence of the day Nancy had been having before she vanished. Clean laundry was spread across the back seat. There were Christmas purchases too. Baby shoes, baby socks, and two men's shirts, the tags still attached. Nancy's pocketbook was inside with cosmetics and about a dollar and change, although her billfold was missing. There was one other detail that stood out. The passenger seat had been pushed farther back than usual, as though someone taller had been sitting there. Whatever Nancy had planned to accomplish that Friday, she seemed to have done most of it. But now her car was stuck off a secluded road, and there was no obvious explanation for where Nancy had gone. Police, firefighters, and Rhode Island State Police spread out through the surrounding woods with bloodhounds. and searched until around 11 o'clock Saturday night before the weather turned against them. Snow began falling, and by the next morning, roughly six inches covered the ground. The nearby pond and reservoir were already locked beneath winter ice, making the water impossible to search completely. As word spread, police fielded some tips that placed Nancy not far from where her car was apparently abandoned. while others suggested she may have crossed state lines for reasons unknown. Speaker 1 (5:27) One of the first potentially significant accounts came from two 10-year-old boys who had been in the Rumford Woods on Friday afternoon looking for Christmas greens. The young witnesses told police that around 2 o'clock, they saw a man and a woman arrive in a car near the same area where Nancy's Oldsmobile was found. They said the pair got out and started walking toward the reservoir, and the boys said it appeared the man had an arm around the woman. and was pushing or directing her along, at some point, they heard what sounded like a woman screaming. That account sent crews back through the scene of the car, but by then, whatever footprints, tire impressions, or other traces might have existed on Friday were now much harder to find in the snow, and darkness eventually brought the search to a stop without an answer. There was another, potentially relevant, report from Rumford, too. At around 7 o'clock Friday evening, two men and two women reportedly stopped at an East Providence service station and asked what it would cost to tow a car that was stuck somewhere nearby. When they heard the price, they drove away without arranging for the tow. Since Nancy's car had been found stuck in that same general area, police understandably wanted to know who those people were. The car they were driving was said to resemble one belonging to friends of the Freniers, but investigators questioned that friend and determined he was not the person who had asked about the tow. So there was a plausible theory developing that Nancy never really made it out of Rumford that afternoon. but other witnesses began putting her somewhere else entirely. A storekeeper in Dighton, Massachusetts, said he recognized Nancy from her photograph. He said a woman matching her description came into his store between 5 and 6 Friday evening, bought cigarettes, and asked for directions to New Bedford. She was driving a two-toned car. That sighting wasn't easy to dismiss because New Bedford actually made sense in Nancy's life. She was born there, lived there for about nine years, and still had a grandmother in the city. Nancy's mother told police that her daughter had even mentioned wanting to visit her grandmother that very day. Then another report came from North Dartmouth. A woman matching Nancy's description had reportedly stopped at a house and asked to use the telephone. The homeowner remembered that she seemed disturbed. Now investigators had a problem. If the boys in Rumford had seen Nancy at 2 o'clock, then the reservoir and surrounding woods looked very important. But if the later sightings in Dighton and Dartmouth were really Nancy, then she had apparently been alive hours later and miles away in Massachusetts. While investigators tried to figure out which witnesses had actually seen Nancy, they were also taking a harder look at the people closest to her. That included her husband, William. Police gave William a lie detector test and questioned him about inconsistencies in what he had initially told them. One detail in particular stood out. When William first reported Nancy missing, he gave police an address in Seekonk, Massachusetts, even though he and Nancy actually lived in Pawtucket. William had an explanation, though. The Seekonk address belonged to his parents, and he said he knew police officers there. and he thought they would take more interest in finding Nancy. As Speaker 2 (9:04) the Speaker 1 (9:04) weeks passed, information about Nancy circulated through 13 states. Every possible sighting offered a little hope that she might still be alive, while the circumstances around the abandoned Oldsmobile kept pulling attention back toward Rumford. There was still one place searchers could not completely eliminate. The reservoir remained sealed beneath winter ice. And until it thawed, police could only keep working the leads they had and wait to see whether Nancy turned up somewhere else. Then, just a few weeks after Nancy disappeared, a young woman in Pawtucket found herself trapped inside a car with a knife at her throat. Speaker 1 (9:47) On January 14th, 1962, a young man approached a 17-year-old girl as she sat in her car. According to Jeffrey A. Osip's reporting for the Boston Globe, the young man got inside and held a knife to the girl's throat, ordering her to drive towards Slater Park. The girl fought back and managed to get out of the car before the violence could escalate. The boy tried to evade police, but a Pawtucket patrolman chased him down and apprehended him. He was 16-year-old Thomas Knott Jr. The attack stood in sharp contrast to how people who knew Thomas described him. He was