The Conders Vs The Grimwade's | Ella & Tim on Raising 8 kids!

Dad V Girls After Hours

In this episode, family YouTubers Ella and Tim Grimwade join the pod to discuss the complexities of raising eight children. They share their

Key takeaways

• Tim and Ella have been together for 25 years and married for 17 years.
• The Grimwade family manages eight children, including several involved in high-level football training.

Main topics

• Large Family Dynamics
• Relationship Longevity

Notable quotes

We've been married 17 years but together 25.

Conclusion

A deep dive into the discipline and dedication required to maintain a

Transcript preview

Speaker 4 (0:00) And I was moody then, I'm not moody now. Speaker 2 (0:02) At all! Speaker 2 (0:05) Don't you sometimes think, wow, that Speaker 4 (0:07) decision that I made back then has shaped my whole life? Yes, yes. Speaker 3 (0:12) Shaped my whole life. Did someone go to St. Speaker 4 (0:14) Brubin? No. I do love watching myself, Speaker 6 (0:18) but I'm not going to lie. Oh, tell me about it. No, honestly. One Speaker 4 (0:22) thing that Tim has always been amazing at is not allowing line. Sorry. Speaker 3 (0:27) I'm playing, I'm playing. That was a Speaker 5 (0:29) total many things. Speaker 2 (0:31) you ready guys she's Speaker 3 (0:32) ready she's totally ready sorry now all right she said don't look at me don't acknowledge me i'm ready to go she's like it feels Speaker 5 (0:41) weird as well because the screen's off so it feels like everything's off but yeah all right cool let's go uh i Speaker 4 (0:47) sometimes do Speaker 6 (0:48) the intro a couple of times that's right that's fine do you think one Speaker 4 (0:50) take wonder this time please yeah no pressure no Speaker 6 (0:53) pressure okay Speaker 4 (0:54) what episode Speaker 5 (0:55) number is it today uh one three Speaker 5 (0:58) You Speaker 4 (0:59) know, I really thought that you guys took like note of that yourselves. I only feel like I'm in the ballpark. I'm thinking, how enough do you remember? Oh, I was close. I said six. One, three, six. Because I saw you said one, three, Speaker 6 (1:12) two in one I was just watching. So I knew I was somewhere there. Speaker 5 (1:16) Do you know what? I Speaker 6 (1:16) wouldn't Speaker 5 (1:17) even be able Speaker 6 (1:17) to Speaker 5 (1:17) tell you. Speaker 6 (1:18) I say it every week and I don't know what number I'm on. All Speaker 5 (1:21) right. One, three, seven. Okay. Ready? Set. Three, two, one. Speaker 5 (1:37) Hey guys, welcome back to a very, very special episode of Davi Girls After Hours. This is episode 137 and in the building we have our very good friends who are family YouTubers, over a million subscribers on YouTube, TikTokers, Instagram, the whole thing and they have eight kids. Yes guys, you heard that correct, eight kids. It is Tim and Ella Grimway. Speaker 6 (2:03) Thank you for having us. We're so Speaker 5 (2:04) excited to have you guys on. It's nice as well when we get to have actual friends on the pod as guests. We're Speaker 4 (2:12) so excited to be here. Although I feel Speaker 3 (2:13) like this is how we get our double dating. Yeah. Speaker 5 (2:16) 100%. The amount of times we text each other Speaker 3 (2:18) like, when can we meet up? And our diaries don't meet. But here Speaker 5 (2:21) we are. Here we are. We've no kids. So, you know, that's quite nice. You know, adult time. Yes, indeed. I just want to point out that my chair is a lot lower than Tim's. No. You're so low. I'm not 7'4". I'm not three foot two, okay? But I mean, well, Tim is a lot taller than me, but not... Not that much taller. I'm just going to sit out there like this. And can we Speaker 3 (2:40) say how cute they are that they have matching outfits and matching shoes? They do. Speaker 5 (2:44) You guys are honestly so cute. So Speaker 4 (2:46) cute. Speaker 3 (2:46) You know, Speaker 4 (2:47) we used to match like all the time before we had all the kids. I think we did it like with Hezzy when he was a baby as well. Like we'd come out in completely matching outfits. Wow. Speaker 3 (2:55) Which takes ages to find, Speaker 4 (2:57) by the way. Speaker 3 (2:57) So it was planned today. It was like, let's go matching. Yeah, today it was. Yeah, it was planned as much as like... But Speaker 5 (3:02) Tim, you didn't get the crop top on. No. I don't know. Yeah, like, you know, that would have been... He's working out in Speaker 4 (3:08) the Speaker 3 (3:08) gym and then he will. When he's Speaker 6 (3:11) got Speaker 3 (3:11) his abs, he's going to come back with his crop top. Speaker 6 (3:14) Careful what you wish for. Speaker 3 (3:16) Have you not seen the TikTok of Joel in crop top? I Speaker 5 (3:19) put Casey's on just as a joke. It Speaker 3 (3:21) was actually Speaker 5 (3:21) mine. Oh, was it yours? Yeah. I thought it was Casey's. It looked pretty good to be fair. Speaker 4 (3:27) My muscles look bigger. Did it look good, yeah? Speaker 5 (3:31) But yeah, so I was going to say these guys, I mean, me and Tim kind of know each other from back in the day. We did cross paths a few times. But you guys started on YouTube, how long ago was it? Nine years. So roughly the same sort of time that we sort of started on there as well. Speaker 6 (3:50) And how did you guys get into YouTube? Originally, I'll be totally honest with you. I just wanted to put Shine on Ella. I didn't really feel like... What Ella does behind the scenes, as you'll know with Sarah, like mums and wives in general, I don't know a harder task. I really don't. Because it's cool to just say you're a mum and pose on TikTok with your kids and whatever, or Instagram, whatever it is. But when you have, for instance, a few of them get sick at the same time, or even better, staggered. So one's sick, then the next one's sick, and it takes you... ages three weeks a month Speaker 5 (4:31) well with eight kids it could be six months this is Speaker 6 (4:34) what i'm saying we tell people don't i beg you don't Speaker 4 (4:39) come Speaker 6 (4:39) around us i'm not being funny we have kids that are doing elite sport yeah we ain't got time we just done and we will have it for six months so Please, if you can. Stay Speaker 1 (4:51) away. Speaker 6 (4:51) No disrespect. We love you, but please. If you've got Speaker 3 (4:53) a Speaker 6 (4:53) cult, Speaker 1 (4:54) please don't. I say that in our house. Because Sophie, with her special needs, she can get Speaker 3 (4:57) really poorly. So I'm just like, just. and the fact that we have five kids 100 % you need to anti-back at the door Speaker 5 (5:02) yeah that's what you guys need 100 % a sick Speaker 3 (5:05) bug will come in our house it would go around Sophie would get it first the other girls and Sophie would get it again at the end I'd be like no yeah see that can happen Speaker 2 (5:11) that's happened before and it's like a loop I just remember there was Speaker 4 (5:14) one time we had a really bad sick bug and I Speaker 3 (5:16) was Speaker 4 (5:16) just listening out for who's gonna throw up next because I was like okay so and so's coming down with it now but we're quite crazy though because if someone does get ill in the house we're like right go to your room you will have just that bathroom quarantine don't come out you're in quarantine You Speaker 5 (5:30) can't be militant. You have to be. And I'm there Speaker 4 (5:33) like anti-backing all the handrails. And the kids. But Speaker 3 (5:38) Tim, you said about that about Ella. I love that. From your Instagram, if anyone sees, you... declare your love for Ella all the time. Like, and I don't think you're just doing it for, like, I genuinely feel that. It's so nice. It Speaker 5 (5:50) is nice. You're Speaker 3 (5:51) making the rest of us look bad, Speaker 4 (5:52) but it's Speaker 5 (5:52) good. Obviously Speaker 3 (5:53) the parties you've been to have asked them about with me, Speaker 4 (5:56) I know it's Speaker 3 (5:57) real, but as in, if anyone follows you on Instagram, like, you know, how do you keep, how do you keep that? How is, how is. Speaker 6 (6:04) like Speaker 3 (6:04) how do we Speaker 4 (6:05) keep that love how is Speaker 6 (6:06) that like we have always always even having eight children prioritized us yeah because we Speaker 4 (6:12) actually really like each other yeah funny it comes across i'll be honest no but Speaker 6 (6:17) like i can like all i can say is that through life like we've been through everything together good bad ugly indifferent whatever and when we got married like we've been married 17 years but together 25 and um when we did make those vows we meant it like we meant it like look for better for worse richer or poorer like i know that becomes like just a thing that people kind of regurgitate when they get married or whatnot but we were like nah this is this is it so and you know you sign a blank check yeah when you when you get married you sign a blank check you don't know what is coming after that yeah but you're committing like it's one of the only things in life you do kind of without foresight of seeing what's going to come um so yeah i've yeah in for an inch in for a mile and how Speaker 4 (7:11) oh sorry god no i'm Speaker 6 (7:12) just Speaker 4 (7:12) gonna say when we first like met like we spent so many hours just chatting to each other on the phone so like we really got to know each other like so well and i think that makes such a huge difference because we were just like each other's best mate do you know i mean the person that you would just rely on the person that you felt like the day doesn't feel right if i haven't like spoken to you worked out if you're actually okay am i okay what's going on with you today and it wasn't just you know sometimes like when you can see each other in person you might go cinema you might go do something do you know what i mean but the actual like connection through talking doesn't necessarily happen as much just Speaker 6 (7:43) a caveat on that we were actually banned from seeing each other when we were younger so that's why it was for uncles literally Speaker 4 (7:50) it was a Speaker 5 (7:53) bit like that yeah Speaker 4 (7:54) the Speaker 6 (7:54) funny thing is me and dad are best mates now like So was it Ella's dad Speaker 5 (7:58) that said no? Nah, Speaker 6 (8:00) he's not. Speaker 3 (8:01) He's a wild Speaker 4 (8:02) one, I can tell. It was basically that. It was that. And he Speaker 6 (8:07) said, don't get... Speaker 4 (8:08) He was like, don't get like... Emotionally attached. Emotionally attached to him. And I'm thinking, well, Speaker 5 (8:15) boy, I Speaker 4 (8:15) already am. What Speaker 5 (8:16) was it about Tim that your dad... So Speaker 4 (8:19) I was Speaker 5 (8:19) brought up... And it wasn't Speaker 6 (8:20) that I was white. Speaker 5 (8:21) Yeah, it wasn't that. That's usually Speaker 4 (8:22) what Speaker 6 (8:22) people go for, but it wasn't that. Yeah, it Speaker 4 (8:24) wasn't anything to do with race. Because that's what Tim said. Most people think it's because you're black and he's white. No, I was brought up around white people. Tim was brought up around a lot of black people. So that wasn't an issue at all. But it was basically, I was brought up very, very, very Christian, very strict Christian. And Tim was like just clubbing all the time when I met him. And he is from a Christian family, but yeah, he wasn't going to church or anything like that. And for my parents, that was like a sticking point. Do you know what I mean? They was like, he's not going to be able to be the right sort of person for Speaker 3 (8:58) you. Speaker 4 (8:58) Leader for you and whatnot. Precisely. So they were like, don't even entertain it kind of thing. But I'd already been talking to him for a while at that point. And I was like, well, we are like best mates now. And I don't feel like I can not have him in my life kind of thing. So I didn't really say that to them at the time. Speaker 6 (9:16) And you know what's difficult about it? Sorry to cut you, bubs. But the, like, we wouldn't teach this to anyone else because we would teach if you... parents at the end of the day i was going to ask about this because this is it's quite interesting because like Speaker 5 (9:30) as a dad as well and i like to think that we have like me and say i have really good judgment that if we were to sort of advise that that we would think that we would be right i'm sure in the moment your dad this is the right advice but if you now fast forward and look how this has turned out this is an unbelievable marriage the family that's come from this and just everything that's kind of come and the Speaker 3 (9:53) love that more he's just unbelievable so like i think that is Speaker 5 (9:56) quite an interesting point and obviously your dad must look now and be like okay you know maybe i had tim wrong but also at the same time it's like you probably grew you had to grow into the man absolutely that look that needed to at the Speaker 6 (10:09) end of the day if if we're honest like at 17 like who's the finished article Do you know what I mean? No one is. I'm still working out. Do you know Speaker 5 (10:17) what Speaker 3 (10:17) I Speaker 5 (10:17) mean? Speaker 4 (10:18) Exactly. Speaker 6 (10:19) And I just think, obviously being a father now to eight children and boys and girls, and there's the funny one, is there a difference with the boys? Is there a difference with the girls? That's another situation altogether. But I think about what I would say to them, and it wouldn't be far adrift from what dad was saying to Ella at the time. Speaker 6 (10:44) you said he's probably looks back at it now and he's like oh you know i had that wrong or whatnot and he has voiced that if i'm honest it was like i can only say it was probably the most affirming thing that i've probably ever heard in my whole life you know he hugged me it was very serious like yeah because he's quite serious it's not that he can't have a joke but he's got this kind of if you if you don't know him he comes across quiet Straight to the point. Well, it's funny Speaker 4 (11:15) because I think especially back then. Yeah, he's changed a lot now. Now if you met him, obviously as our parents get older, they kind of get a bit softer. They do, yeah. Speaker 6 (11:22) And Speaker 4 (11:22) having kids is soft. Speaker 6 (11:24) Yeah, Speaker 4 (11:24) precisely. But at the time he was very stern. Do you know what Speaker 2 (11:27) I mean? And you wouldn't put a foot wrong with him. Do you know what I mean? He'd Speaker 6 (11:30) just have to clear his throat. It'd be that kind of stuff. Yeah, and you'd just be like, okay, cool, get down to it. So for Speaker 4 (11:35) me, I know that at the time my parents only wanted what was best for me and what they felt like was best for me. I think out of myself and myself, siblings at the time I was kind of looked at as the one that okay she's gonna try and live a bit different kind of thing you think you were I think I was at the time but obviously well that was what I do think Speaker 6 (11:55) what I do agree with you is Ella always was hard-headed and stubborn knew what no but I don't know Speaker 5 (12:04) if I'm Speaker 4 (12:05) not moody now Speaker 6 (12:10) I just couldn't resist. I just couldn't resist. We'll be right back. Joel Speaker 3 (12:17) says this. Joel said I used to be stressy. I'm like, I'm not really stressy anymore. I Speaker 2 (12:21) don't feel I Speaker 3 (12:21) am. Am I? You're doing better. Speaker 5 (12:24) Like we said, it's a progress, it's a journey. Who's the finished article? None of us. But Speaker 6 (12:28) I would say Ella knows what she wants. And that's something I've always loved about her. I think that's brilliant. She's not someone who will just lie down and just be taken with the wind. She's going to have a plan and how she wants to get there and how it should go. And that's all good. But that's what I think it was back then. I think that dad would have thought, well ella's gonna do what ella's gonna do kind of thing in the long run yeah yeah Speaker 1 (12:57) and Speaker 5 (12:57) so like so how old were you guys when you first got together then Speaker 6 (13:01) young young like 17 yeah Speaker 5 (13:03) okay so Speaker 6 (13:04) similar to you guys now yeah Speaker 4 (13:06) yeah i was 15. Speaker 3 (13:07) there Speaker 5 (13:08) you go 15 i was 16. so yeah yeah very childhood loves don't Speaker 4 (13:12) you sometimes think like wow that decision that i made back then i know has shaped my life Speaker 3 (13:19) Did someone go to say ruin? I Speaker 6 (13:22) heard that. I'm just kidding. I'm just Speaker 4 (13:28) stressing. No, Speaker 6 (13:29) but going back, the dad literally, he said to me, I nearly made the biggest mistake of my life. And you can see, like, I sometimes find it hard to say it out. Speaker 4 (13:41) Yeah, Speaker 6 (13:41) you get emotional. But yeah, it's like, that's what's up. like it's amazing so nice i was like i done made it now yeah Speaker 5 (13:48) that's it yeah yeah no one can tell me so so like i mean one of the one of the things that's like really fascinating even now like knowing you how long i've known you i still find it so fascinating the the amount of kids you have and just like your whole your whole life and can we say that they Speaker 3 (14:07) are the best behaved children i've ever i mean met the thing is Speaker 5 (14:12) when you think so Speaker 3 (14:13) kind they ask questions they look even when we came to your house and they're like oh took our shoes and i'm like oh i can do that they're just so loving oh thank you so nice Speaker 5 (14:22) when you sort of if you said so oh we've got friends they got eight kids right like i think the immediate thing that i would think is chaos right it's just like chaotic like kids running the barrel everywhere like house is just crazy and it couldn't be any further from the truth like your kids are so well-mannered they are so polite they are so just like they they're just they're amazing like being around your family is just absolutely incredible and i just think i genuinely i know i've asked you before i genuinely do not understand how you guys you manage you homeschool all of the kids yeah um they're a lot of them are playing football especially Hezzy it's like playing football at a very high level which involves a lot of commitment of training sessions Speaker 3 (15:10) and games and Speaker 4 (15:11) hours tonight Speaker 3 (15:11) yeah Speaker 4 (15:12) four Speaker 3 (15:12) hours Speaker 4 (15:13) five hours five hours yeah so tonight and you Speaker 5 (15:17) produce I look forward to it on YouTube it's how many videos you're doing a week two so two videos a week on YouTube which I think people don't understand like that there's a lot that goes into that And your house is not... No. Your house is just... your house is absolutely beautiful. Your kids are amazing. And you make time for the gym. Speaker 3 (15:37) Date nights. You make Speaker 4 (15:38) time for each other. Is Speaker 3 (15:40) the gym date nights or do you still also do date nights? A Speaker 6 (15:42) bit of both. We still do date nights. Speaker 3 (15:43) Yeah. But Speaker 5 (15:44) how? Like, what is the secret? Yeah, tell us everything. Because our lives are so much more chaotic. We have way less kids than you. Like, I just, you do loads. Yeah, you do so much. Speaker 3 (15:54) I Speaker 4 (15:54) think their Speaker 3 (15:54) kids help out a lot more though because Casey Speaker 5 (15:56) and Grace. Speaker 3 (15:57) I'm Speaker 6 (15:57) sorry, Casey, I'm not saying more than you. I'm just saying. Yes, they do. It's Speaker 3 (16:02) not Speaker 6 (16:02) hard. yeah what helps Speaker 4 (16:03) is that so for example like the kids when they're all into the same like thing that's helpful yeah tim runs a very tight ship so like he has expectations and we all know what they are so for example like one of them would be like even no but obviously it's because every parent wants their children to do better than they have in life right yeah and i feel like we got to a point where we was like yeah we've enjoyed being teenagers but if we'd locked in into something a lot sooner we would have been further ahead in life maybe than we are now yeah so i think we've recognized that or tim specifically recognized that early on and was like look if we pour into our kids all the right things and help them recognize you know what their gifts are what their talents are and help them like lock in from early then that's just going to help them push on so much more in life yeah so i think from when hezzy was gone Speaker 6 (16:51) sorry just to interject i i think it is the one thing i do think even about our own kids is I'm surprised that they all would like to do the same thing. That is something that I find a bit freakish. Because it's different having one does this and they're very good at that. And then someone else does something and they're very good at that. Because the habits are similar. If you want to be great at something, practice, practice, practice. Study, study, study. Do, do, do. And you get better. So that's a habit that's like can go across different genres or whatever, different activities. However, the actually liking the exact same thing, I don't know many people. And all being very good Speaker 3 (17:35) at it as well. Yeah. It's funny, half of us Speaker 6 (17:37) are Speaker 3 (17:37) many people Speaker 5 (17:37) like that. Am I right in thinking like all of your kids love... football yeah they do to to some extent i feel like i mean Speaker 4 (17:44) obviously Speaker 3 (17:44) you saw the baby Speaker 4 (17:45) yeah well i'll say i think the one that i'm still on the fence a little bit about yeah it's halo at the minute halo Speaker 3 (17:50) is just crazy and Speaker 6 (17:52) she's just like free spirit yeah and and she just does her thing Speaker 4 (17:55) everyone's going that way i want to go that way yeah that's Speaker 6 (17:57) what Speaker 4 (17:57) i was like um but everybody else is on it like so Speaker 6 (18:01) here's hosanna hallie harper rue are all at chelsea yes and then houston is talking about wanting to be yeah but i still don't know whether she's grasped how much work that is going to entail. But we Speaker 4 (18:16) can see that she wants to do something that is sportive. She's very athletic. She's Speaker 3 (18:20) very Speaker 4 (18:20) athletic. She's always running and jumping and cartwheeling. Over the summer, she started off not being able to do a bridge or a cartwheel and whatnot. And now she runs and she flips over and you're like, oh. And she literally taught herself to do it. Do you know what I mean? Because we're always like, if you're interested in something, practice it then. And then also, show us how much you want to do something. Because obviously that's the right thing for you to do if you want us to. invest time in what you're doing you've got to show that you want to be there that's very Speaker 6 (18:46) important what you're saying because we did that like even with Hez like I was like oh you want to do football because it was young like so quick really quick backstory I used to do some coaching but at a really young age and then I grew and and went into older ages but I did little kickers do you know of little yeah I've heard of it yeah so yeah it's literally an introduction to a football, I wouldn't even say to football, but to a ball, they do things like colours and put the cone on the right colour and all that kind of business. But they're like, if they're mature at 18 months, a year and a half, they can come in at that point, but usually it's like about two. Got to walk in that. Yeah, all of that. And also just general behaviour, you've got to be able to concentrate at least for a... Little bit. Yeah. Because sometimes they come and it's a little bit too early for them. And that's fine. You know, and you can come when you're ready. But anyway, has used to basically get pulled along to that with me. And I don't remember him not being super advanced. Like, I remember one of the parents going. like the ball like sticks to his he's just moving as if he's not thinking about it with a ball and the ball never goes more than you know a foot from him and like and i was like oh really like i remember you having a conversation Speaker 4 (20:13) she's like babe so-and-so was saying to me yeah his like apparently looks like really really good i was like yeah and Speaker 6 (20:18) and that was someone the dad i believe he either played football Or he was a scout or something like that for football. So had a little bit of knowledge about the game. And then it, I don't remember, Speaker 3 (20:32) do Speaker 6 (20:32) you remember Ike Roses with the washing machine? Yeah. So they had a flat and the washing machine was a little way, you could be out in the hallway. Yeah. And basically he... they shoot through that they shouldn't but they were shooting from out in the hallway into the washing machine and here's which is like bam into the washing machine bam and his cousins are like what is going on and there's Speaker 5 (20:56) a Speaker 6 (20:56) couple of footballers in our family yeah um and uh yeah and it's funny they would Speaker 4 (21:00) always get so excited yeah yeah yeah you can do look what you can do Speaker 6 (21:04) you're like it was sweet but the people Speaker 5 (21:06) listening that don't know I don't know you guys. Like, Hez is playing football at an absolutely incredible level. He's a phenomenal player, right? And I don't know a lot about football, but I've even heard his name from other people. Yeah, we Speaker 6 (21:19) have, yeah. Speaker 5 (21:20) He's a fantastic player and he's got a very, very, you know, amazing opportunity ahead of him. So he's, and he's playing for Chelsea's under 18s. He's been capped for England as well. Yeah. And like, which is, it's just incredible, right? Like, it's absolutely amazing. And like, Obviously, I know from speaking to you and seeing content of you guys online, I know how dedicated and disciplined he is in what he does. And the amount of time from all of you that goes into it is unbelievable. How much of it, for people listening, there's a lot of parents who want a similar for their children. And I've always wanted to Speaker 4 (22:02) know. Speaker 5 (22:02) How much of it Speaker 6 (22:03) is... talent because he obviously displayed some natural talent from the young age Speaker 5 (22:07) versus like you think you could take any not any child but a child and say like you could get them to a certain level if you give me Speaker 4 (22:13) a Speaker 5 (22:13) ball Speaker 4 (22:13) you'll be able to see how much she's like natural talent you know it runs in the blood so Speaker 6 (22:17) i would say this i would say i believe that i could get an a normally athletic child as a young star to a point of playing in an academy yeah however The top-end kids they have something about them. Yeah Because there's even different levels within our family. Yeah, like his is in particularly Good. Yeah you know, but Like the girls they were really late to it. So Hosanna Halle Harper they Literally, we bought a football franchise. We make footballers and they got we make footballers. Yeah, and we just needed people to fill it at the beginning. So they came and I just said, look, we got a lot of kids. Like, just can you all go? And just, it doesn't matter how good you are or whatever. And before this, I mean it, they had... little to no inkling to want to play football but Speaker 4 (23:15) you know it's funny though looking back on some of our like videos in my phone and harper used to play around all the time with rue and we didn't kind of like notice it it was just like she was like i'm just helping rude practice or whatever and then when we look back on the videos you realize but she's actually just there trying to do her own thing yeah i mean which is quite funny Speaker 6 (23:32) no no no and that's very true but yeah but the other two hosanna and hallie in particular were like heck to the night Speaker 4 (23:39) And Speaker 6 (23:40) then the first session they come out, why Speaker 5 (23:41) didn't you tell Speaker 2 (23:42) us? Speaker 6 (23:43) I'm like, oh, that was so fun. We've only been going football like every day for the last X amount of years. But they said, do you think we can do it? I said, I think you can do whatever you put your mind to. Like, if you're game, I'm game. And so I think for those three, it was a bigger achievement to get into Chelsea. Chelsea is the best academy. in the country. I'll have some City fans disagreeing. But Man City and Chelsea hold a very, very high standard throughout everything. But obviously we're Chelsea so we're slightly biased. But they do a great job there and to get in there is no easy feat. And you have how many kids in there? Five. Five kids. Like, I mean, that in Speaker 5 (24:27) itself is just absolutely phenomenal when you think about it, right? It's like, most families who are into football like they'd like to have one kid in there you've got five kids that are in child it's Speaker 4 (24:40) so funny because everyone always says that to me but i kind of as much as we've got eight children i look at them all as individuals as well so as much as like people would say oh you want one child to get in there well i'm like well each child has their opportunity to do what they want to do so for me i kind of feel like you know if we had one child it might have been hes that was in or if it might have been Hosanna that was in it, it might have. Do you know what I mean? So I'm just a bit like, yeah, but it's just because we've got so many kids. You know what I mean? And they all just happen to want to do the same thing. So the same way you'd put hours in with Hezzy and treat him a particular way. Like if you want to