#1166- Deep Talks With Speakin COAD Podcast
Cult of Conspiracy
Cajun Knight and Raven Lee host a crossover episode with Teddy Dynamite and Code from the Speaking Code podcast, diving into a wide-ranging discussion on ancient mythology, extraterrestrial theories, and modern
Key takeaways
- Cajun Knight and Raven Lee welcome Teddy Dynamite and Code from the Speaking Code podcast for a collaborative deep dive into conspiracy theories and alternative history.
- The hosts debate whether deities like the Anunnaki, Greek gods, and Aztec pantheons are manifestations of fallen angels or interdimensional entities that adapted their worship across cultures.
Main topics
- Anunnaki and fallen angel mythology
- Interdimensional beings and DMT research
Notable quotes
"I don't believe in aliens. I believe in time-traveling humans. And this is what humans look like in 5,000 years."
Conclusion
The episode concludes with mutual appreciation for the crossover, promotional plugs for guest merchandise and
Transcript preview
Speaker 1 (0:00) For many of us, going further isn't a choice. It's a feeling we can't ignore because ambition has a way of outgrowing where it began. Speaker 1 (0:11) Turning dreams into direction. Speaker 1 (0:17) Every journey brings us closer to the life we imagine. Speaker 1 (0:23) So, where will your journey take you? Etihad. Beyond borders. Speaker 4 (0:47) Welcome to the show. This is the Cult of Conspiracy, and I am the Cajun Knight. I'm Speaker 2 (0:52) Raven Lee. And Speaker 4 (0:53) today we have on some very special guests from the Speaking Code podcast. We got Teddy Dynamite. We got Code, a.k.a. Conspiracy of a Dead Man. Both of y'all are in the house this evening. This is a half of the regular hosts that you might see on the show. Gentlemen, welcome to the Cult of Conspiracy. Speaker 3 (1:13) Thank you for having us. Absolutely. Thank you so much. Speaker 4 (1:16) Absolutely. And we've been kind of chatting back and forth on the gram for a little while trying to get this collab together. To be honest with you, y'all had our spirit animal, our resident stone platypus, a.k.a. Sam, a.k.a. the crockpot, because you've got to let the boy cook. And y'all had him on the show. And, I mean, he's – y'all know him. He's an absolute sociopath in the best possible way. We love him dearly. And when he is the, I actually think he's the one that told us that we need to get in contact with you. And it's like, Speaker 2 (1:45) we were, we belong to a group chat and I saw them post in there. And so I contacted them. I Speaker 4 (1:50) see. I see. I just scrolled y'all's Instagram and saw Sam. And I was like, oh shit. If they already had the spirit animal on the show, we're, we're cousins at this point. They got the grim. Speaker 2 (1:58) They got everybody in that. Oh, y'all Speaker 4 (1:59) had Grimbowski on the show. Speaker 2 (2:01) Yeah, they're in the big chat with all of us. Yes, dude. Speaker 4 (2:03) Yes, indeed. So, gentlemen, for anybody who may not have heard of the Speaking Code podcast. Yo. Oh, Speaker 2 (2:11) you got one of Grimm's shirts. Hell yeah. Bro, Speaker 4 (2:13) the dude's work is phenomenal. I Speaker 2 (2:16) love him. He's so sweet. So, Speaker 4 (2:17) for anybody who may not have ever heard of the Speaking Code podcast, tell the good people. Who are y'all? What are y'all about? Give us the spiel. Speaker 5 (2:26) TBD, you want to go with Speaker 3 (2:27) that? Speaker 4 (2:29) We're Speaker 3 (2:29) just a group of weirdos that like weird things. You know, government conspiracies, aliens, Anunnaki. We want to know the truth. We speculate. We try to figure out what's going on. Speaker 4 (2:40) Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay, so let's talk government conspiracies. I was actually going to Speaker 2 (2:45) bring up the Anunnaki because I just watched a video of an old boy apparently prophesizing. He got a, I don't know if you've seen this, it's currently going viral right now, about this guy that he is like, basically tagging up the side of a massive long brick wall. And he's like talking about the beginning, basically every reset, he's like going through this code and like drawing this like certain way. And he's like, just to let you know, like I got this coded download. Like this is what they're telling me. And it's like a whole reset happening. And basically it shows us like we weren't supposed to have tried against tribe, but eventually that happened. And then we ended up killing each other. Then we've made. ai and they're gonna be our downfall they're gonna come and rescue 30 000 people and like it's just like this whole thing that's happening you guys haven't seen that yet Speaker 4 (3:30) no but hold on so the anunnaki put us here and we weren't supposed to go tribe versus tribe that is a sumerian story the sumerians told us we weren't supposed to go tribe versus tribe has anybody ever heard of the sumerian conquest look i'm just saying what Speaker 2 (3:43) old boy is having a whole like just a moment and he is going like ultra viral all at once. Speaker 4 (3:50) I'll bet he is. So I was like, Speaker 2 (3:52) okay, speaking of them, I mean, I just saw that and I was like, Hmm, have Speaker 4 (3:55) y'all heard of this guy? Speaker 5 (3:57) I seen a clip of it and I saved it and I would have brought the video. I'm, Speaker 4 (4:05) I'm flabbergasted, but I mean, okay. Anunnaki, are y'all believers in the Anunnaki story? Do you think that might be a metaphor for something else? Where y'all fall on that? Speaker 3 (4:16) I'm going to go first Speaker 5 (4:17) then. Yeah, I personally think that. all these different almost like denominations of uh the old gods so to speak i think that they're all like originally like fallen angels type of idea um sorry if my dog can you hear my dog's barking in the background a Speaker 4 (4:38) little bit Speaker 5 (4:38) yeah Speaker 4 (4:39) no Speaker 5 (4:41) i get it i'm not hasan piker i'm not gonna be shocked at him Speaker 4 (4:45) yeah no fuck us on piker dude we're not fans of that human being i i use that term human being very loosely here but uh i mean he's a socialist dude they're not people like they're not like actual people they're you know objects but uh okay so you said fallen angel type so i'm not trying to presume here but does your podcast as a whole have a little bit of a judeo-christian flavor profile to it or y'all kind of all over the board y'all everybody's got their own individual belief systems where are we at Speaker 5 (5:15) Uh, yeah, I think we're all, I mean, like probably two of the three of us or two or two of the four of us. Um, I think we believe that way, but we're also open to different interpretations of things too. Like I would even go as far as like the, um, the Titans could have been the fallen angels. Speaker 3 (5:33) Okay. And then Speaker 5 (5:33) they slept with the daughters of man and then created these hybrids, which would have been like Zeus and like all of these other, um, Greek mythology type of gods that. They asked these people and told them to worship them. So then these people started believing and praying to these deities, these so-called deities. Speaker 4 (5:52) And Speaker 5 (5:52) then you ended up doing these other halflings, like a Hercules type of origin story or something like that. That's kind of where I'm leaning almost with all of them, even like the Anunnaki and stuff nowadays. Speaker 4 (6:03) I hear you. I could agree with that to a certain point, right? So especially when you look at different pantheons of pagan gods, historically speaking, you have like a god of the sea. And whether it's Egyptian, whether it's Roman, whether it's Greek, whether it's Nordic, whatever, you have a god that like his domain is the sea. And that makes a lot of sense. The sea is very powerful. Obviously, it's something that we need to acknowledge and fear and worship as humans. Boom, we got a deity for it. And some of these deities... act alike, sometimes look alike, sometimes have very similar attributes, but then you'll go to another tribe across the continent. The sea god has completely different attributes and there's no connection whatsoever. So like in a certain regard, some people will say that the entire pantheon is all fallen angels, therefore it's all satanic. And I get that. And I don't inherently disagree. But what I will say is looking at it culturally, it's also kind of crazy to watch how... I can't make a straight line connection from point A to point B on that because sometimes the culture for that specific tribe has so many flavor profiles and nuances that make that specific deity what it is. And then just to kind of whitewash the whole thing and say that it's all angels or all this, it kind of negates the cultural aspects. But then there's other aspects of like Molech where they're sacrificing their children to it where it's like, no, no, no, that's straight demon. I got no problem saying that's clearly a Satan. Yeah, I'm saying it's like I see where you're going with that for sure. Yes. And who knows, like... Speaker 1 (7:30) For many of us, going further isn't a choice. It's a feeling we can't ignore because ambition has a way of outgrowing where it began. Speaker 1 (7:41) Turning dreams into direction. Speaker 1 (7:47) Every journey brings us closer to the life we imagine. Speaker 1 (7:53) So, where will your journey take you? Etihad. Beyond Borders. Speaker 5 (7:59) Like if you even went to uh, I don't know if you went to Central America they had those different types of gods and stuff too where they they had the the eagle head or I'm sure that there was like the long snake or reptilian lizard with like almost like a dragon so to speak I Speaker 4 (8:15) can't pronounce the name, but yeah, I know the one you're talking about I think like Speaker 5 (8:19) Quetzalcoatl or Speaker 4 (8:20) something. Close enough. Close Speaker 2 (8:21) enough. I know what you're saying. There's Speaker 4 (8:23) so many consonants and not enough vowels. I can't look at this. Boy got 36 letters in his name acting like that Quetzalcoatl, whatever, dude. And that's Speaker 5 (8:33) all Teddy Dynamite's realm for sure. He loves anything mythological, and I've been kind of diving into those just to kind of make us some sort of connection. Speaker 4 (8:43) I feel that. So then, Teddy, where do you fall in the whole span of the Anunnaki conversation? Speaker 3 (8:50) I'm kind of on board with like code. Like I do believe like it was the fallen angels and. I believe like they they wanted to be worshipped like God. And so they put themselves above everybody else and gave themselves names and titles and. Speaker 4 (9:09) because Speaker 3 (9:10) of the abilities that god gave them they were able to like influence the cultures they were yeah Speaker 4 (9:17) i Speaker 3 (9:17) think like how what you were saying where some of them like it's like the different names but it's the same deity same like mystic and abilities i think you know once they got once they got Speaker 3 (9:33) Their notoriety started to fade in one area. They moved to another area and started over. And then all they did was change the name and keep the same backstory. Speaker 2 (9:43) Yeah, basically. Speaker 4 (9:44) And again, it's very interesting to look at the cultures from place to place. So for instance, Egypt, Greece, and Rome, all of them around the Mediterranean, all their gods kind of fit the same flavor profile. They may have got some nuances here and there, but we're basically talking about the same thing. We've got Toth. slash Hermes slash Mercury, same fucking guy, basically, right? But then you look at, for instance, the Aztecs and look at the Greeks and what they were doing to bring the rain. And then look at the Aztecs and see what they were doing to bring the rain. Two very different things to two very different gods, right? The Greeks were taking, I think it was the first of their wheat and burying it. The Aztecs were cutting their baby's arms off. And the more they cried, the more rain it was going to be. And it's like, yeah, somewhere there was a little bit of a gap in translation. You know what I mean? But again, we're across the ocean. It's to be expected. I think that means that Speaker 2 (10:35) there is more than one. There was more than one set. I believe that there was multiple sets and that some of them were more evil than the other sets were. I Speaker 4 (10:45) could see that. Because it would make Speaker 2 (10:47) more sense if you look at the, they do have some that are, I feel like there's certain groups and cultures that group together. And then there's like the Aztecs, for example, that were all about sacrifice, blood and sacrifice. That was their whole shtick. Speaker 4 (11:02) And Speaker 2 (11:02) it's like, okay, it would make more sense. So when you don't really, you're not really sacrificing much in these areas. Like, yes, you could, but overall they weren't really like, let's kill everyone vibe. Whereas the Aztecs were like, yeah, we're just going to slaughter people left and right. And that's it. Like, this is what we're doing. We have like an entire underground temple. We have like 5,000 plus people that we've killed. Speaker 4 (11:25) Maybe there's different sets of pantheons. I think there's Speaker 2 (11:27) different sets. I think that if what you guys are saying, if there's fallen angels, okay, well, not everyone's going to fall in the same spot. Sure. Speaker 4 (11:35) And Speaker 2 (11:35) not everybody feels the same way about humans. Everybody is going to have their own flavor of like, okay, well, you've gained, I guess, some part of humanity where you are angry as fuck. So, yeah, like torturing and killing humans to one verse, like, I mean, we just want to be praised and worship and like we're above you because we are is two vastly different groups of people or groups Speaker 4 (11:57) of entities. I will say that, too. You look at the. pantheons from around the Mediterranean, it all goes back to sex. I Speaker 2 (12:05) was going to say, they were all about sex and lust. Egypt, Greece, Speaker 4 (12:08) and Rome. Every one of their statues has a big old dick on it for some reason and or a little dick because in Greece that was seen as a sign of intellect. The smaller your dick was, the smarter you were. I feel so bad for those women. Every one of these pictures of Zeus, every time, he's got a fucking two-inch or pincher on him. And that was like the epitome. That's why he Speaker 2 (12:26) was so fucking angry. Speaker 4 (12:27) But then flip over to the Aztecs. It had nothing to do with sex whatsoever. Speaker 2 (12:31) It Speaker 4 (12:31) was blood. It was blood and hearts, man. So yeah, I could see where you're going with that for sure. Speaker 2 (12:35) And Speaker 4 (12:35) then, like we're talking about, we just shot an episode on Dracula, right? And Emily Girard, this woman in the 1800s, wrote an essay about the cultural beliefs of Transylvania. And we're talking the 1880s. America just got done with the Civil War. Meanwhile, in Transylvania, it's like some of these... Stick Speaker 2 (12:53) a fork in it. Speaker 4 (12:54) Basically, if you ever find yourself walking through the woods and a dragon is flying over you, stick a fork in the ground and lay down and he'll pass right over you, no harm done. Just make sure you always have a fork on you. I'm sorry. And what was the chain of events? What was the chain of custody on the original Chrome of Truth to that to get to now where the people are still believing this? Or like your baby, the first time when you have a baby, the first time you clip their nails, you need to do it with your teeth rather than clippers. Otherwise, this kid's going to grow up to be a fucking thief. And it's like, I'm missing the connection. Speaker 2 (13:27) But all right. Speaker 4 (13:28) And I'm wondering how many of those things like the Aztecs. It's like, I don't Speaker 2 (13:32) know Speaker 4 (13:32) what Speaker 2 (13:32) to Speaker 4 (13:32) tell you. Yeah, any new building, you have to bury someone alive in the walls. Otherwise, someone will die. And it's like, you mean you just killed someone? Right, right. It's like, I'm wondering where these myths on the Aztec side of things are like, listen, dude, I don't know what to tell you. All I know is that if I cut the still beating heart out of this guy, it rains. Don't ask me why. It just works. We're just doing it now. Speaker 5 (13:55) Yeah, it's very interesting about that, though. Have you ever seen Game of Thrones? Of course. So do you remember the eunuch and how he was the secret guy that knew everything and he was kind of manipulating everything? I think that they would consider him like a priest. Speaker 5 (14:12) Some cultures, yeah. And I think that they had priests like that that they used, I think, during medieval times to get the kings to either fight on their behalf to get more gold and stuff like that. But in Mexico, they had some sort of priest like that as well that was in the ear of those people. The priests have always been the ones. Speaker 4 (14:38) I Speaker 2 (14:39) mean, realistically, the... Religion has been used and manipulated to be able to sway the hands of monarchs for a long time. Speaker 4 (14:48) This is very true. The eunuchs are an interesting case study, though, because in China, the eunuchs were the only ones allowed to be in the harem of the emperor. These dudes are okay because they're safe, but then in Europe, the eunuchs were used as like, well, they can't be swayed because they're not thinking with their dicks like all other men do, so we're going to trust them with this. And it's like, bro. That's the one attribute you think is leading the world. If a guy loses his dick, he'll just be inherently smarter and more moral. That's wild, wild concept. But all right. But that might make me just stick with you until I can find someone to take you out for chopping everything Speaker 3 (15:25) up. That would make me fuck. Maybe a little raw. You know what I'm saying? That'd be playing the long game Speaker 4 (15:30) to get some revenge. But Speaker 2 (15:32) it's a wild concept. Speaker 4 (15:35) It's Speaker 2 (15:35) I'm not shocked, though, but like, you know, it's a while. But then as we're speaking about this, so we're talking about all these pantheons and gods. Where do they go? You know, they were here. They were being well loved and well praised and all this stuff for a long time. And then all of a sudden it's like all at once they went poof. Speaker 4 (15:52) Yeah, that tends to happen. Except Speaker 2 (15:54) I don't actually think they left. Speaker 4 (15:56) Well. Are you talking about the worship of these deities? You mean the actual deities themselves? I Speaker 2 (16:01) think Speaker 4 (16:01) the Speaker 2 (16:01) actual deities themselves. I Speaker 4 (16:03) see. Okay. So some would say that their worship was transferred to the new one. Like we said, the Greek to Roman, the Hermes to Mercury conversation. I Speaker 2 (16:12) know, but Speaker 4 (16:12) after a Speaker 2 (16:13) point, then it disappeared because of Abrahamic religions. But where do they go from there? Except I actually think that they move themselves. They move themselves into politics, to the bloodlines, to the... actual like kings and queens, they started more operating in the background instead of being in the forefront. Well, Speaker 4 (16:31) all these royals, regardless of what culture we're talking about, every royal has some story of how they come from the gods, Speaker 2 (16:38) period. Speaker 4 (16:40) Native American, they come from the land. But as far as the European and Middle Eastern royal class, and especially Egypt, well, clearly, you know, I'm a long descendant from Odin. Obviously, I don't know if you heard about that. Raw, Jupiter's my dad. It's a long story. Alexander the Great thought that. His dad was actually Philip of Macedon. Like, we know who his dad was, but nah, Zeus fucked my mom. It's a long story. Like, what? Speaker 2 (17:05) Or they could have gone behind the wall. Speaker 4 (17:08) With the giants? Speaker 2 (17:10) Yeah, they could have just disappeared. What if they went through? Because there could have been the veil. They could have been able to escape. I guess they set up shop in the, you know, hidden earth. Hollow Earth? Hollow Earth, dude. Speaker 4 (17:21) Fuck yeah. Speaker 1 (17:23) For many of us, going further isn't a choice. It's a feeling we can't ignore because ambition has a way of outgrowing where it began. Speaker 1 (17:35) Turning dreams into direction. Speaker 1 (17:41) Every journey brings us closer to the life we imagine. Speaker 1 (17:46) So, where will your journey take you? Etihad. Beyond borders. Speaker 4 (17:54) Yo, okay, let's talk about that for a second. Where do y'all fall on the flat versus round versus cylinder versus whatever earth shape? Do y'all have a preference on this? Y'all open to interpretation. Where y'all at? Speaker 5 (18:07) I think it's Speaker 4 (18:08) Brown, but I'm open to interpretation. Speaker 5 (18:11) Yeah, I don't know, man. I think that there is some validity to Operation Fishbowl, Speaker 4 (18:18) where Speaker 5 (18:19) they were shooting missiles up into the atmosphere or trying to break through the atmosphere, and they were just blowing up up there. Speaker 4 (18:26) Yeah. Speaker 5 (18:28) Yeah, I don't know. It's very weird. And I honestly, I wonder if the Earth is just so much more larger than what they tell us. Speaker 1 (18:36) I Speaker 5 (18:37) wonder if they utilize that more so to get people to not want to go on adventures. If everything is already found, then there's no point in searching for it. Speaker 4 (18:47) Like in the Truman Show, as a way to dissuade him from being an explorer like Magellan. Oh, well, they already beat you to it. The whole world. Yeah, I can see what you mean. The Earth being a different size is an Speaker 3 (18:57) interesting talking point. Speaker 4 (18:58) And just for the record, I am a ball earther. I believe in physics. But I will give my flowers to the flat Earth community for blowing the lid off of so many other conspiracies because they look at shit from such an altered perspective. Like, they've been right quite a few times. I don't like that they've been right, but one plus one still equals two. You know what I'm saying? I at least got to give the props where they're due. Speaker 5 (19:21) Now, this doesn't say flat or round or anything like that. But there was, if you look at a picture of the moon from Earth, it looks very small. Speaker 4 (19:33) The Speaker 5 (19:33) moon does. But the Earth is, what, four times larger than the moon? Speaker 4 (19:37) Yeah. Speaker 5 (19:39) Pictures from the moon make the Earth look like it's as small as the moon. Speaker 4 (19:44) Mm-hmm. Speaker 5 (19:46) So I'm like, there's got to be some weird stuff with that. Me, personally, I think that they use NASA as, like, money laundering. Oh, for sure. the funding of the black sites and stuff and the black missions. Not, not black, but I mean like other, no, I know Speaker 4 (20:01) what Speaker 5 (20:02) you Speaker 4 (20:02) mean. No, it's any dynamite. Not that black. We're talking about like the books. Jesus Christ. Speaker 3 (20:08) I'm Speaker 4 (20:08) more like a Speaker 3 (20:09) mahogany. Speaker 2 (20:12) Right. I'm not white. Like I'm like, I'm like definitely like five different shades, colors of white. So no. Speaker 4 (20:20) Yeah. Speaker 2 (20:20) I'm like a tan apricot. There you go. I'm pretty tan, actually. Speaker 4 (20:26) Fuck that. I'm white as they come. You Speaker 2 (20:29) ain't white, though. You do. Not Speaker 4 (20:30) culturally. Skin tone-wise. You're Speaker 2 (20:32) wearing white, though. Look, we don't blend into that white. That's white. Speaker 4 (20:35) It's very rare that I wear a flannel like this, too. Usually I'm wearing darker colors. Like, Speaker 2 (20:39) look, this is what actually white looks like. Okay, I'm Speaker 4 (20:42) not as white as a catfish belly now. Calm down. This is the color Speaker 2 (20:45) white, though. So, like, technically, none of us actually are the colors that they deem. I've seen a whole bunch of people do that, except for that one really dark guy that is actually black. And he has the most gorgeous skin ever, by the way. Speaker 4 (20:59) there was this picture that went viral a couple years ago it was like the blackest model and the whitest model and the whitest model had albinism yeah so like white white white white and then the darkest one oh fuck i don't know if it was from she was from the congo or what Speaker 2 (21:13) beautiful yes but like seeing Speaker 4 (21:15) them next to each other is like yo that's got to be touched up and it's like no actually not there's really good lighting but no photoshop whatsoever the Speaker 2 (21:22) rest of us are just shades okay we're just colorful shades Speaker 4 (21:28) Oh, my God. So, anyway, back to the topic. So, we talk a little bit about Anunnaki. So, what do y'all feel about aliens? And when I ask this question, I've said this before, you get five different people in a room that believe in aliens, you'll get ten different answers of what could be. So, with that, we are talking interdimensional. We're talking interplanetary. We're talking the under the ocean, the reptilians, all the things. Kind Speaker 2 (21:52) of ties into all of it, though. It Speaker 4 (21:53) does. But for y'all, what... Primarily, do y'all believe? You want to go next? Oh, yeah. Okay. I don't Speaker 3 (22:02) know if they exist, but I'm hoping they exist. Speaker 2 (22:07) Really? You're hoping they do? You're hoping the fucking mantis with those goddamn pinchers exist? Bro. Speaker 3 (22:15) We're the only creatures in the universe? I'm kind of hoping there's something else out Speaker 2 (22:20) there. There definitely is. Hopefully not them fucking mantises. Speaker 5 (22:25) Code, what do you think? And I wonder if there's more like interdimensional kind of like the upside down with stranger things Yeah, and instead of being able to just like I mean not like so much with CERN, but who knows maybe with I don't want to say portals like you could just Transport sure from we need a point B with just like a little remote or standing on something but like maybe they're able to unzip through somehow, you know, not my my mean idea of this or main thinking of this is more so how we are three-dimensional. We can understand and see two-dimensional. We can create two-dimensional. But if there's something that's four-dimensional, can it create three-dimensional? Or any other dimensions that are higher that can move between certain things? Could that be even like a paranormal where they can go through things and go through walls and go through doors, but then they could also sometimes alter the physical? Speaker 4 (23:25) Yeah. No, I can understand that as well. Speaker 5 (23:27) I almost wonder if that's like the same type of thing with the alien idea, if we went down that route. But I also wonder if that could be some sort of demonic type of paranormal thing as well. Speaker 4 (23:39) So that seems to be the big, there seems to be a few main camps that people fall into. And of course, there's nuance and shades of gray, and every person has their own individual flavor for this one, for sure. But interdimensional. Not extraterrestrial. That conversation comes up a lot. But I also hear a lot, I believe with you on that, that they're probably using interdimensional travel like we might use the interstate to get from point A to point B. But they don't live in the fourth dimension. They're kind of stepping through it to get over here kind of thing. And I could get down with that for sure. I've also heard, I don't believe in aliens. I believe in time-traveling humans. And this is what humans look like in 5,000 years. And they're coming back in time and they look different. Their craft looks different. That's what these orbs are. I've heard that a good bit. Of course, the extraterrestrial, just they live on another planet, another galaxy somewhere. I'm like you on that one as well, Teddy. I think there's no way that we're the only life form, physical life form in existence out here. And then I also hear a lot about the alien and demonic conversation. Like, oh, I don't believe in aliens. I believe in demons. And I'm like, are the two? mutually exclusive like why why can't we have both happening at the same no i uh the bible didn't say that i'm like the bible didn't tell us about oxygen either but we got it i mean shit so i definitely a blending of the ideas here for sure yes yes Speaker 5 (24:58) and i i like it for sure i like the idea i mean i don't know sometimes i get kind of worried or i start to worry about the idea of aliens like what if they come here and they don't like us you know what they're here And here's what I just thought about the other day. I was like, I wanted to save it for this show too, because I was going to ask you guys, but the idea of, you know how people. They get abducted and there's sometimes two at the same time or like a couple get abducted. But have you heard about the technology that we have that they can transmit advertising in people's minds? Yes. Speaker 2 (25:35) All Speaker 5 (25:35) around the same time. Like they wanted to, I think McDonald's talked about it. They wanted to transmit it in people's dreams. Speaker 1 (25:41) But what if Speaker 5 (25:42) they're able to transmit something like that and claim it as an abduction at the exact same time for the same two people? So it's a vivid dream where they both believe it. They both were there. They both explained it to each other. And they were like, this had to have happened in the physical, but it could have actually happened in the mental. Speaker 2 (26:01) I think Speaker 4 (26:02) there's something to this, to be honest with you. So it's Speaker 2 (26:05) called a dream transplant. Speaker 4 (26:07) Yeah. We talked in the inception. But no, no. So to that point, and that sounds crazy. Like, so two people are both in the dream world at the same time. So like, ethereally, they're really there. No, dude, that's not how dreams work. But except there are multiple studies being done right now. And we understand DMT. That is the chemical our brain releases while we are sleeping and while we're dreaming. Right. And yes, you could take DMT in the physical form and kind of have a DMT trip, all that. So this guy named Danny Guller, who we had on the show. shit, probably a year and a half ago, two years, he and a group of people are staring at laser beams on a wall while taking DMT. Have y'all heard about this? Speaker 3 (26:48) No. Speaker 4 (26:49) So his team is currently finding the Matrix. And I don't mean the Matrix is in the movie, but I also exactly mean Matrix like the movie. It's Speaker 2 (26:59) creepy as fuck. Speaker 4 (27:00) If you take a laser level, like you get from Lowe's when you're trying to do something in your house for renovation. You take DMT and you stare not into the laser at the wall that has the laser shined on it. You will start to see these symbols and sigils and these shapes. And you stop and you draw down a piece of notebook paper. All cool. You send it in. Apparently, everybody is seeing the exact same. going down. Think of the Matrix movie of the ones and zeros, except this is more like alien version of ones and zeros and everybody sees it. So there's a whole team doing that experiment. There's another team that is currently mapping the DMT realm and they are doing intravenous DMT drips to stay in that space for longer so they can actually map out the DMT world. And again, their maps are lining up on top of each other. They're able to build out from it. It's not one guy who's having this crazy DMT trip. So when you're saying like marketing being injected into us in our subconscious, in our dream state, and multiple people are having the same experience, up until recently, that seemed crazy as fuck. Right now, that's not really and truly out of the realm of possibility whatsoever. That's actually really plausible. It's Speaker 2 (28:11) a form of hypnosis. Speaker 4 (28:13) Absolutely. Speaker 2 (28:14) It's basically like lucid dreaming, but then they're implanting dreams into you. Speaker 4 (28:18) Suggested lucid dreaming or suggestive, I should say. Well, there's also Speaker 2 (28:22) a theory of like keeping people like eyes open awake, but they're like basically zombified in a sense like you're not really conscious, but you are conscious and you're seeing the same images on repeat and it causes you to have the same type of dreams. Speaker 4 (28:35) That sounds like brainwashing. Speaker 2 (28:40) Yeah, Speaker 4 (28:40) kind of. Speaker 2 (28:41) I mean, it's torture. It's a form of torture. But yeah, it's a thing that they've done for quite a few times. Speaker 5 (28:47) God damn. Now, I did see that bubble thing you were talking about, but I didn't know they were on DMT. I thought they were just looking at the level and then writing it down. No, Speaker 4 (28:57) dude, his name is Danny Guller, and he would be a fun guest for y'all to have on the show. He's been doing this research for probably three years now. And he's not like the type that, you know, you'll get a lot of shamanistic people on that are like, I don't know if this guy has been not psychedelic for the past decade. You know what I mean? I don't know how much of a grip on reality. Bob, Bob, Bob, you know, the types. We just had a guy on Adam Butler. Phenomenal that he is not who I'm talking about. Actually, Adam. Speaker 2 (29:23) Adam's wonderful. His head Speaker 4 (29:24) is firmly planted in the ethereal, but his feet are also firmly on the ground. Adam's a solid guy, but we've had some people that are. A little out there. Speaker 2 (29:32) Yeah, he was great, though. But like he also is working with David. And so they're doing he's also helping map it and do the different experiments. So it's interesting. I mean, I wonder. I mean, I wonder about the dream situation because it's not like they haven't done everything they can to figure out the subconscious and how to. revolutionize it so but Speaker 4 (29:53) then we're also talking about alien abductions and the aliens probably understand the subconscious level of existence to a much deeper level than humans have gotten to right and the same conversation like you said like if they were to show up here i feel like humans are screwed i Speaker 2 (30:09) think they're already here though what Speaker 4 (30:10) there's right all right so assuming that the aliens aren't already here on earth on some men in black shit which ravenly i agree i think they already are but If hypothetically we are lucky and the aliens have stopped by, but they haven't set up shop yet. If they make it to us, they have a level of technology that we have not even imagined yet. And we are so fucked. We're Speaker 2 (30:30) babies. Speaker 4 (30:30) Really? Unless, unless actually there are. They're like water is acid to them. And we actually accidentally have the secret weapon aside from something like that. I think we're fucked. I got a, I got a hard time believing that earth is going to be visited by the space hippies that are just here to give enlightenment and tech. I don't see it. Speaker 2 (30:48) I could be wrong. I Speaker 4 (30:49) hope I'm wrong. God, I hope the space hippies pull up and they're just like, Oh, y'all still fucking with nukes, dude. Here's crystallic fusion. Your problems are over later. And we just, that's it. Speaker 2 (30:59) It's never how this works. Speaker 4 (31:01) I know. Speaker 2 (31:02) It's never how it works. I don't know why people are like, yeah, aliens. It's like, you can just stay over there. Speaker 5 (31:09) You can stay Speaker 2 (31:11) in your super awesomeness over there. We'll stay in our caveman shit over here. Speaker 4 (31:18) Right, right. You know Speaker 2 (31:20) who we need to talk to? The sharks. That's who we need to talk to. We need to figure out how to communicate with the Speaker 4 (31:25) bastards. Speaker 2 (31:25) The sharks in the ocean. Yeah, they survived five extinctions. Speaker 4 (31:31) Well, I mean, yeah, but dolphins fuck them up, though. And we can talk to dolphins. Hell, we had that whole black study done in. We Speaker 2 (31:38) still can't figure out half the shit with the damn sharks, though. Speaker 4 (31:40) Yeah, that's true. So, Speaker 2 (31:41) like, some of the sharks, where do they go? Where do they breed? They still haven't figured it out. It's just magically the transmission somehow just glitch every time. It Speaker 4 (31:51) still fucked me up when I found out that we had a secret Navy program training dolphins and seals to fuck up divers. Speaker 2 (31:58) I'm not surprised. We can actually Speaker 4 (31:59) communicate and radio transmit to a dolphin who just attacked a scuba diver around a certain bay area because do we know that that's a Russian scuba diver trying to plant some explosives or what? I saw the thing and I was like, there's no way we've actually trained dolphins to be attacked dolphins. The fuck we haven't. We have a whole unit. Speaker 3 (32:17) Wasn't it just last year that guy claimed that the dolphins took him? Speaker 2 (32:21) Yes. Speaker 3 (32:22) Gave him something so he could breathe and had him building stuff for them underwater? Speaker 2 (32:26) Yeah, he went on a whole terror about that, about how he was kidnapped by dolphins and they forced him to do manual labor for him. Speaker 4 (32:32) Which is hilarious. Like, you have opposable thumbs and you just got enslaved by dolphins, my boy? Like, what? Okay. That's a thing. See, that's some aliens. That's some alien dolphins. Speaker 2 (32:43) I'm just saying, man. Like, if anybody holds the secrets of what's going on, it'd be the damn sharks. Speaker 4 (32:48) Yo, what if dolphins are actually aliens? Speaker 2 (32:51) I don't doubt it. Shit. Have you guys ever heard about the bees being the spies for the aliens? Speaker 4 (32:56) Ooh, this is a fun one. No. So Speaker 2 (32:58) there were, there were doing this bee episode. Cause Speaker 4 (33:01) we keep seeing like all the bees are missing and we're losing bees. Speaker 2 (33:05) Bees kept disappearing. And this is not like, this is not Speaker 4 (33:08) like Speaker 2 (33:11) an uncommon thing though. This has happened like multiple times through history where bees just like disappear. They dip Speaker 4 (33:17) out. Speaker 2 (33:18) And. So basically what this theory is, is that the bees are actually like reconnaissance for aliens. Yeah. Speaker 4 (33:25) And Speaker 2 (33:26) like there was a type of bee that they basically injected in to the population of bees and that they they like every now and again return back to the aliens and basically like tell them everything they've seen. They like basically little mini uploads, like little robots that they're just uploading from. Speaker 4 (33:42) Jeez. And that would make sense. It's Speaker 2 (33:44) a weird ass conspiracy. I'm not gonna lie, but yeah, it Speaker 4 (33:47) kind of does make sense though. Bees have been on this planet as far as we know, since the beginning of time, ancient Egypt talks about them. Ancient Samaria talks about them. So in the bees just be doing what they want. The fact that they can fly defies logic. Like by all known laws of aviation, bees should not be able to fly. Their bodies are too fat. Their wings are too short. Bees don't give a fuck. They'd be doing their own thing. Code over here. Me too, brother. Me too. 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