WE WERE RIGHT! UVU Releases Their Independent Review. | Ep 394

Candace

Candace Owens conducts a deep dive into the independent review released by Utah Valley University regarding the security failures during Charlie Kirk's

Key takeaways

• The UVU independent review found no evidence of bad faith by university officials but identified critical security gaps.
• TPUSA field representative Macy Crofts insisted on using the Fountain Couryard despite UVU's concerns about crowd control.

Main topics

• UVU Independent Review findings
• Turning Point USA security failures

Notable quotes

At no time during the events leading up to the assassination of Charlie Kirk or in its aftermath, did any employee or agent of UVU act in bad faith.

Conclusion

The episode provides a critical examination of how organizational deci

Transcript preview

Speaker 4 (0:00) All right, you guys, a lot of emotions going through me right now. Anger, angry, very angry. Last year being gaslit, we've been lied to. You've been called wine moms. The Department of War has executed a campaign, an online campaign, paying people to attack every single day, trying to convince us that water isn't wet, trying to convince us that common sense should be ignored, that Candace is a liar. I mean, so many, they can't even focus on the stuff that they've been saying over the last year. We've been committed. I've pointed out things. My experience working for Turning Point USA immediately told you things that were off about September 10th. They sent the faith leaders. It's demonic. They said, oh, open your Bibles. The widow, the widow. Honor the widow. Speaker 4 (0:54) Well, has the widow been honoring her late husband? No more talk about the widow, guys. No more talk about the widow after this report. has become available. I Speaker 1 (1:05) don't Speaker 4 (1:06) want Speaker 1 (1:06) to hear it ever again. I don't want to hear any person try to sell to us Speaker 4 (1:12) this emotional pitch of, oh, Erica, Erica, she's just a widow. No, she's conniving. She has loud lies, okay? She has loud lies because she is the CEO and the chairman. She's not at home taking care of her kids. She's on the road connected to an apparatus of power at all times. And that power has been sent to attack all of us for refusing to accept the Charlie Kirk federal slop narrative. And what is so despicable, what I really want to harp on right here at the beginning, because we told you, we said this report is going to drop. We told you it was damning. Actually, Barron Coleman reported it first. That report was incoming. And what did they do? The Kirk family files this very sloppy, quick, preemptive strike where they say the security at UVU is to blame. That means somebody is leaking to them. But by the way, the report they knew, they saw, they read, and they were prepared with the statement. Always doing the same thing, by the way. They're always expecting us not to read it. You guys know I love to read stuff, though. I love to read through it. I will take the time to read through every document when it comes to. The Charlie Kirk case especially, especially when you have had me in your sights and you have come after me and you have come after those who have supported me and you have been vicious group chats, come after my family, my kids. Yeah. Speaker 4 (2:37) Well, let's go through it. Let's see what we learn in this report. It is astonishing. I mean, I got to just the timeline and I could not believe it. I could not believe how right we have been the entire time. And when I plug this into the broader timeline of what Charlie was going through in his personal life, your jaw is going to hit the floor like mine did. So let's get started. Welcome back to Candice. Speaker 4 (3:12) Somebody get Andrew Colvett, Blake Neff. Somebody wake up the widow. Get the pastors. Come on, everybody. Everybody get together. Where's Frank Turek? Where's Frank and Bank Turek? We're going to yank and bank and frank our way through this independent review, which they knew was coming. Clearly knew it was coming and tried to get ahead of. Now, we told you this already in the background of what was happening that. Essentially, almost immediately, UVU reached out to a third party, the Lake Forest Group, to conduct a review, a broad review of the security protocols to see what went wrong that day, to open up the campus, open up their police officers, open up everyone sitting down with interviews and producing evidence as to what went wrong on September 10th. Assassination, bigger, you could argue this was a bigger assassination than JFK. Because of the ability for the video to have spread globally, people wanted answers and they basically put their hands up and said, go for it. Get the answers that you guys are looking for. Speaker 4 (4:18) It could have obviously been implicated. So we should start with who participated in this review because that alone is stunning. Erica's been telling us that she wants to get to the bottom of things, right? That they want to figure out what happened no matter what the answer is. They're not just, you know, pushing Tyler Robinson narrative. They're open to other considerations. They just, she just wants the truth is what she said. She just wants the truth. This would be a really good thing. for the CEO and chairman of Turning Point USA to participate in a third-party review if you're interested in getting to the truth about maybe how your organization may have played a role in the security failures that day. While we learn who participated on the bottom of page six and seven of this review, we are told that they interviewed federal, local, county, and state officials. And we are told that UVU- fully cooperated with the review, but guess who did not participate, you guys? We learned that despite repeated outreach attempts, the project team did not receive responses from the following individuals or other representatives of their organizations. This information is included solely to document outreach efforts and to provide transparency regarding the scope of information available to the project team. The project team reached out to Brian Harpole, who was identified as the leader of the Integrity Solutions Security Team working with Turning Point USA to provide executive protection for TPUSA CEO Charlie Kirk. The project team attempted to reach Harpo by telephone and certified letter. The certified letter explained the purpose of the outreach and provided the project team's contact information. The project team did not receive a response. Neither did I, actually. We're going to get more into Dan Flood. I mean, I get more into Brian Harpo. Next up, the project team also reached out to Dan Flood, Turning Point USA's security supervisor. He's on staff. And Macy Crofts, a Turning Point USA senior field representative. Those two would know a lot. Flood was identified as the person who coordinated security for the organization with Brian Harple of Integrity Solutions. Flood was present at UVU on September 10th and had a phone and text communication with UVU Police Chief Jeff Long a few days before and the morning of the event. And Macy Crofts was identified as a senior field rep of Turning Point USA, and she participated online. in the Major Events Assessment Committee planning meeting that was held on August 25th regarding the September 10th TPUSA event. But mysteriously, you guys, we learned that neither Flood nor Crofts responded to phone calls or voicemail messages. In Flood's case, the project team also sent a certified letter. They did not have a current address for Crofts. They further contacted senior-level staff members at Turning Point USA in Phoenix, seeking assistance in connecting with Dan Flood and Macy, but the project team did not receive a response to those email and telephone outreach efforts. We then learned the project team also reached out to the then-head of the UVU TPUSA club, who had invited Charlie Kirk to speak at UVU. The project team sought his insights and perspectives regarding planning for the September 10th TPUSA event, but... He did not respond to Project Team's various outreach efforts, which included a certified letter seeking his cooperation. That really is something. Caleb Chilicote, who Erica spotlighted at AMFEST, seemingly did not want to help the university that he went to figure out what happened, what went wrong. How curious. How curious. Speaker 4 (7:57) Lastly, they tell us that a Utah risk management official had communications with an executive of Turning Point USA and urged that the above-named individuals who were associated with TPUSA on September 10th cooperate with the assessment by being interviewed by the project team. There was no response. Now, why is that interesting? It's interesting not only because of the message that they have communicated to us over and over again about how they really just want the truth, you guys, but it's also interesting because Brian Harpole was willing to speak to Sean Ryan on a podcast. He opened up, he talked about it. Why wouldn't you speak to the Independent Review if everything you say to Sean Ryan is true and above board and we are going to learn that it was not, as I said. But if everything you're saying is true and you have nothing to hide, Erica, don't come for my employees. I'm sorry, my family. Don't come for her family. Well, why don't you tell your family to open up the books? You did nothing wrong. They did nothing wrong, right? No, they all declined. And yet, Andrew Colbett, Blake Neff, every single day, they're beating the drum talking about how transparent they've been, right? They just want answers. They spent a year trying to get you answers and you guys didn't participate. Let's go to page 10. This is just going to be an executive summary, but I want to highlight this because you are about to be hit with so much paid propaganda online to lie to you about what's in this document. So much so that you shouldn't even just take this episode. You should read it yourself in its entirety. You should read it in its entirety. But I want to highlight the opinion of the project team, and its executive summary at the top on page 10. Scroll down to the blue in the middle there. It is the opinion right there. It is the opinion of the project team based on our review of all available information that at no time during the events leading up to the assassination of Charlie Kirk or in its aftermath, did any employee or agent of UVU act in bad faith or in willful and wanton disregard for the safety of others. With the benefit of hindsight, however, the project team identified several actions, omissions, circumstances, and institutional practices that warrant attention as UVU considers how to strengthen the safety and security of campus events in the future. So they are saying, this is our summary. Contrary to what Erica tried to very quickly, the Kirk family tried to quickly file, our assessment is nobody at UVU acted in bad faith or in disregard for the safety of others, but... We are going to make some suggestions for the future of how they could learn and strengthen the policies Speaker 1 (10:35) that are already on the books. Okay. Speaker 4 (10:37) Now, I want to talk also about this major events assessment committee. Actually. Speaker 4 (10:45) Yeah, let's go to page 11. I've been telling you guys about this. There was this Microsoft Teams meeting that took place. They have assessed on page 11 that this did take place, but it was Turning Point USA that wanted to have this event outside. We're going to talk more about that. The MEAC, that's the Major Events Planning Committee, and we're going to learn. that Turning Point security did not take place in this, but it tells us here that the MEAC process was initiated on August 21st to determine whether or not the event should proceed and to identify security concerns. However, several key event security decisions were deferred to Turning Point USA's field representative. Even though UVU staff members raised concerns, including concerns related to holding the event in the outdoor fountain courtyard area, and using Turning Point USA's ticketing process. Turning Point preferred to hold the event in the Fountain Courtyard and to use its own ticketing system rather than the university system. Those decisions placed the event in an area that was more difficult to control and limited UVU's ability to obtain reliable real-time information regarding anticipated attendance and crowd size. Because the event was held on UVU's campus, UVU should have retained decision-making authority. over key security related issues, including the venue selection, the ticketing and access control, and other conditions that were necessary to support campus safety. Okay. Speaker 1 (12:17) I want to park that in the back of your mind, okay? Speaker 4 (12:21) Let's go to the timeline on page 17. I love a timeline. They put together a timeline and this, I could not get over the first entry on this timeline. You will recall, you will recall that very shortly after Charlie's assassination, I said, this event came together too quickly. Something is not right. And we were having a very hard time determining who requested this event. Do you remember they sent out Allie Stuckey, who has never headlined a tour with Charlie Kirk. She shares a, an... an ex-correspondence between her and Andrew putting together an event last second for this exact tour as evidence that I'm somehow lying. I mean, what an absolutely terrible human being this girl is. I'm truly like, I'm so sickened. I was so angry thinking through the amount of people that Charlie has helped in their career and how quickly they turned their back on him. So I noted to you, I said, who requested this event? Because the way it normally works is Every single Turning Point USA chapter, separate from national, wants Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens, they want you to come to their campus. So they put in a request to Turning Point National, and Turning Point National does their best. And typically the consideration is, has Charlie done this university in the past? How big is this university? How is the club performing? They'll also reward on the basis of how the independent clubs are performing okay. This year, you're going to get Candice. You're going to get Charlie Kirk. You're going to get this speaker. You're going to get this speaker. How can we divvy it up? Are the headliners available on those certain dates? And it is a process that takes place, as I said to you guys the semester before. At a minimum, at a bare minimum, because the wait list is long. Of course, every chapter president Speaker 1 (14:07) wants to host them. And I said, something is not right about how this event came together. Speaker 4 (14:13) Lo and behold, we finally get an answer. Let's go to the timeline. I'm shocked at this entry. We learn that on July 10th, 2025, at the request of Turning Point USA's field representative. That's Macy Crofts. That means this was a complete flip. Turning Point USA reached out to a club president and said, hey, we want you to put in a request for Charlie to speak in the courtyard. This is massive, okay? I cannot say to you enough, I cannot underscore enough how massive this revelation is. This is not how events come together at Turning Point USA. They don't say, you put in the request and we want it in the fountain area. And let me tell you how insane this is beyond that. They included Caleb's email in here. Caleb's email requesting Caleb Chilikit, the club president. requesting this event, and he didn't even know why he was requesting it. Stunning. Now, if you guys don't mind pivoting, let's go to page 39 where we can actually, or it might be page 40. I think it's page 39 where we could actually read, no, 40. Give me 40, page 40, the email. I think that's important for us to pivot to. Here it is. This is the verbatim email from Turning Point USA UVU's club president to UVU Club Services. He wrote to them, My field representative for Turning Point USA has asked me to reach out to UVU Club Department to ask about availability on hosting an event on the courtyard on September 10th from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. She, referring to Macy Crofts, is being quite vague. on what this event is. So unfortunately, this is all the information I have in regards to it. Are you able to tell me if this space, so she wanted it in the courtyard, Macy Croft's, it has to be in the courtyard, doesn't tell much else. Can you let me know if this space is currently available for the date and time? Headquarters came to a club president and said, contact them immediately, see if this space is available and it's gotta be in the courtyard. Speaker 4 (16:37) I'm like, I can't explain to you. Like, I'm like on the brink of tears realizing this. I told you there was something suspicious about how this event came together. That right there is suspicious. Just do Speaker 1 (16:52) it. Just email and see if we can be in the courtyard. He doesn't even know Speaker 4 (16:55) what's going on. She's being vague. Why is she being vague? Why is she being vague? I have an idea why she might have been being vague, but I'm going to show you the Charlie Kirk timeline of what's going on in his life after we get through this. Let's go back up to that timeline, if you guys don't mind. The timeline on the bottom of page 17. I mean, on page 17. Okay, so that's July 10th. On July 18th is when he formally, maybe he got more details from Macy, submits an event request. And the event is described as an appearance by Charlie Kirk to discuss current events. And that ticketing is going to be handled by Turning Point USA. It's going to be external. The university will not have oversight over it. On July 28th, the club's office advises that Turning Point USA's club. And annual registration had to be completed. So they came back to them and they said, actually, you haven't even submitted your annual club form. So you're not officially a club yet. So they got that done in the back end. So the event has not been approved. They are just suggesting that they want to do this event. And then after they submit that registration on August 21st, the club's office tentatively approves the event. They forward it to event services as a major event. MEAC is going to have to get involved. And at that time, in response to UVU's questionnaire, TPUSA told them it was going to be 600 attendees. That's going to be relevant later because when we say TPUSA, we mean once again, Caleb Chilikit had no idea what was going on, which means he was not in control of ticketing. That is also unusual, okay? Turning Point USA National is handling the registrations. We're going to learn that elsewhere in this document. They say on August 21st, it's going to be 600. And then they offer to connect UVU PD with Turning Point USA Security, said that they had no risk factor for safety or security. And so on August 21st, Event Services then emails everyone that's required on their end to attend the major events committee meeting. And that is when the first time, now it's been approved tentatively, that Jeff Long, the chief of police at UVU, became aware of the event. Now, he is a crucial name because they have been throwing so much dirt on his name that when I got through this document, I don't see how he doesn't sue. I would sue. not just Turning Point USA, I would sue the university for allowing this narrative. I mean, Brian Harpole is out there saying that, oh, this is the text message. You've got them saying security failed. Erica is filing a thing. They're pointing, I'm pretty sure she explicitly named Jeff Long in that filing. By the time you get through to this, you're going to be like. I cannot believe the audacity of that. And you just have to be a sociopath to want to ruin this person's life knowing what you knew. Okay, Turning Point knew that it was them that orchestrated every aspect of this event. Turning Point headquarters. This was not a slip up even on the chapter. So I am saying Caleb Chiloket did nothing wrong. Okay, he's a chapter president. Headquarters is telling him what to do. He's at an age where he's young and dumb and he wants to be favored. Right? Oh, a little stroke on the... Eric is going to bring you on stage and give you an award. He's an idiot. Maybe. That's the worst thing he's done. He's an idiot. He's a useful idiot for Turning Speaker 1 (20:27) Point USA headquarters. But Jeff, Chief Long? Speaker 4 (20:32) yeah, by the time you get through this, you're going to be thinking he should sue Turning Point USA for allowing for an entire year for people to think that he was the reason. That's explicitly what Brian Harpo said. What am I supposed to do with that? UVU police did this. They did that. Well, now we have an independent review. Let's keep going here. So we now know this is the first time he finds out, August 21st. And then you get this entry here, which is that instantly this was flagged by UVU. They have a free speech committee and they flag it because they say we're going to anticipate protests and they have reviewed insights from prior turning point appearances, including an appearance of Charlie Kirk at UVU in 2019 with me, by the way. That was with me. And we did have protesters. And me and Charlie sat on the floor and went through the protesters. So they're going, we're going to we expect some action here. That's UVU that's telling that's saying that not turning point security. Then they have this mysterious entry that Brian Harpole stated in a public podcast on Sean Ryan that he first had a meeting on September 10th. And that's when they started getting things together. Remember the Sean Ryan interview? But guess what? You guys know what he was talking about. We're going to learn about that. They have no idea what he was talking about because they weren't involved. The committee meeting, the major events assessment committee meeting, which happened just four days after Jeff Long learned about this, took place on August 25th. Guess who didn't attend this meeting? Not a single member of Turning Point Security attended this crucial meeting. But they tell us what happened. UVU participants raised concerns about the outdoor courtyard location that Macy insisted on, the anticipated attendance, the protest activity, the crowd management, the ability to control access. This is the meeting the security should have been a part of. And Macy said no. We want the event to remain in the Fountain Courtyard despite the concerns and suggestions of alternative