LEAKED! Erika’s Texts, TPUSA Contracts, And The J6 Patsy’s Connection To Tyler Robinson. | Ep 396

Candace

The episode investigates allegations of financial impropriety and deceptive leadership within Turning Point USA following the death of Charlie

Key takeaways

• Leaked texts from Erika Kirk show her requesting 'heavy hitter' donor lists for upcoming events during her mourning period.
• YRefi signed a $2.25 million contract with TPUSA, followed by a significant $1.25 million addendum for the fall campus tour.

Main topics

• Erika Kirk's text messages
• TPUSA and YRefi contracts

Notable quotes

Who are the big hitters that you guys have coming this weekend?

Conclusion

The episode presents a deep dive into alleged systemic corruption and

Transcript preview

Speaker 3 (0:00) All right, you guys, happy Thursday. I hope everybody tried on their heaven-focused excuse at work today, because how could you be expected to do anything or know anything at work if you're paranoid about getting into heaven? That's the way forward. Anyway, the Vanity Fair writer certainly knew that Erika was a fraud, like we know that she is a fraud, but in case you're still imagining that she is this hybrid, catallico, evangelico. Princess, I'm going to set you guys straight by showing you some text messages that Erica sent last year following her husband's death to the team. Now, in one fell swoop, we received contracts that Turning Point USA signed as well back in 2025, which in my view confirm my general suspicion that Charlie's tour came together rather quickly, and it was perhaps because he was put under financial pressure. We're going to talk about that. Also, we... have to discuss the other federal patsy story, Ryan J. Cole, black autistic man who was effectively tortured by the feds into taking responsibility for dropping off the pipe bombs on January 5th, the night before January 6th. And there's actually a very strange coincidence to his story that has something to do with Tyler Robinson's story. So let's jump right in. Welcome back to Candace. Speaker 3 (1:34) Everybody grieves differently. That's what I want you guys to remember. Some people grieve by thinking about how much money they can make through the art of grieving. So on Monday, it was confirmed by Vanity Fair that yes, Erica assumed her husband's position as CEO and chairman within 48 hours of his untimely death. That's really quick. And that's because... if Doug DeGroot is to be believed, board member Doug DeGroot, also financial advisor to Charlie and Erica, it's because the organization was immediately placed under pressure from journalists not to provide updates about the as of yet unlocated killer, because remember that took 33 hours before they found Tyler Robinson. She would think that if they were contacting public relations at Turning Point USA, they're... They would want updates about that. But no, according to Doug DeGroote, the journalists were just pressuring them to know within that crucial time frame, who's going to replace Charlie? We don't even care about the assassination. Who's going to replace him? Okay, Doug, not what I was told, actually. I fact-checked that with the person who was directly responsible for fielding the PR request, the same person who had to write the death statement to hand over to the media. But apparently, Doug DeGroote, the board member, would know better than her. But we're going to just stick with Doug's story anyway. OK, let's stick with Doug's story that they saw this pressure from journalists and that's why they had to rush to name Erica. Most of us assumed that when the announcement arrived, it was just meant to serve as a public morale boost. I was happy when I heard privately. And then a few days later, they announced it publicly. We were just like, OK, great. Like somebody in Charlie's life will take over this company. Nobody imagined that Erica was actually in the office. Nobody imagined that Erica was taking Zoom calls. Nobody imagined that she was announcing Turning Point 2.0, giggling on Zoom calls, celebrating how much money that they had made at Charlie's Memorial in merch sales all within the first two weeks. And then we discovered that and things felt very weird and wrong. And we went back and we tried to figure out what actually happened here. And that's not really it. As we... discuss her general mood in those weeks after Charlie's assassination. You will also recall they eventually made the terribly crass decision to encase Charlie's bloodied microphone as an emotional appeal to donors at their annual Mar-a-Lago event, also at AmFest. And by the way, regarding the Mar-a-Lago event, it worked. They allegedly raised $40 million at that event, in part due. to things that were meant to pull at your heartstrings. You know, Erica photographed next to the microphone looking down, sad. I just thought you guys should know that in the lead up to that event, and this is because people at Turning Point USA are pretty disgusted and feeling lied to about a lot of things. Especially now with the UVU independent review, they're realizing that they just weren't told the entire truth about things. But I want you guys to know that in the lead up to that Mar-a-Lago event, obviously Erica was the CEO and she was communicating with teams via Telegram. And what she was interested was knowing the names of a very specific kind of attendee to that Mar-a-Lago event, the extremely wealthy. rich kind, offensively rich kind of attendees, she put together a telegram group that was entitled Dominate 2.0. And I just was so offended by this message that she sent out to them. She wrote, quote, Who are the big hitters that you guys have coming this weekend? Also, do we have good people coming on Sunday? I want a full list. Sorry, can I have a full list of donors that are coming this weekend so I can make notes? Erica was concerned, wanting to know who the heavy hitters were. The mood of that, first off, just describing donors as big hitters, something about that disturbs me. It makes the people on the Internet who assess that her focus has been money since the very beginning. Like it's not like, who are our biggest supporters? Who are the people that are at the top of the list in terms of supporting this organization who have gotten behind us? Give me the heavy hitters. Who are the heavy hitters are going to be here this weekend so I can get ready to cry? And then Taylor Scornivaco responds. You can bring that back up. And actually, Taylor is not calling them heavy hitters. She says, we have some very strong people coming on Sunday. Lots of brand new six-figure donors. Seems more appropriate than referring to them as big hitters. And she says, I will drop the full list here, sorted by MGO, MGOs. please go through and highlight and add notes to any names that Erica should key in on. She wants those heavy hitters. We're the big hitters. Yeah, I am just going to reinforce once again, we are just done with the grieving widow narrative. It's over. It's ended. Nobody cares. Nobody cares about the bot campaigns or the people that are paid to pretend that she's a grieving widow. You guys are just all canceled. You're all canceled. You're all done. I have to say somewhere between where are the heavy hitters, where are the heavy hitters at, and her sharing the final moments of her children with Andrew Wilson and text messages with a slob like Andrew Wilson, you've lost the crowd. No one believes you anymore. Moving on from that, last year, very early on in our investigation, I had received a tip from someone within the organization while I was being attacked and gaslit for just... asserting my experience, having worked with Turning Point USA for years, that the tour came together quite unusually. And the person reached out to me and said, no, you're on the money there. I quite literally was on the money. Speaker 4 (7:38) I was Speaker 3 (7:39) expressing that even Utah, doing back-to-back Utah stops separated by 10 days didn't make sense to me. Usually we would do a corridor in a sweep. So if you were going to do California, do back-to-back-to-back so that you're You know, not wasting travel time. Why would you want to travel to and fro to Utah if you could do them back to back, especially because the universities are like 45 minutes apart? Well, the person told me that Charlie had agreed to doing those stops because he was under a lot of pressure to make more money. Of course, we know what happened in July. You had these Zionist donors who were pulling out because of his shifting stance on Israel, a shifting stance that Turning Point USA still will not. acknowledged, which is very strange. Everyone has acknowledged it, even Vanity Fair. You could see it in Charlie's rhetoric, but they just keep pretending that that wasn't happening. But when Bob Shulman pulled millions, and he wasn't the only one who pulled millions, others did as well, Charlie was wanting to make up that money elsewhere. And I was told that the company Y Refi came in with a ton of extra money. And they had also, you know, in this nice offer to make up some of the lost revenue. And that person also said to me, and I'm going to say allegedly here, that they were given a say as to where Charlie's tour stops would be. Now, we can't confirm that they were given a say because at that time we didn't have anything concrete to back up that assertion. Fortunately, though, like I said, the UVU Independent Review has further disgusted many employees working at Turning Point USA who feel that we stood by you, we hated Candace for you, and now you have been caught lying. While I still cannot demonstrate that YREFI hand-selected Utah Valley University, there is actually no evidence for that outside of hearsay. What I can certainly confirm now is that they did come in with an addendum to their pre-existing 2025 contract, and they came in in July. And the numbers are, it's a lot of money. The number adjustments are staggering, if you ask me. So foremost, let's back up. Who is YRefi? Who are we speaking about? Well, if you ask the employees at Turning Point USA, past and current. and I have had those conversations with them, they will tell you that they are just shady in general. They came in as a massive sponsor for Turning Point USA in 2024, of course, right after Candace stopped touring with Charlie Kirk and when things just started changing. And they, according to Turning Point USA, employees have a lot of conflicts of interest. For example, Turning Point USA's sponsorship guy, sponsorship lead is Dylan Erickson. He was once an employee of Turning Point USA. They say now he's a contractor, I'll say allegedly, but he's also employed or paid by YRefi. So that would be a conflict of interest. There's a lot of that going on at Turning Point USA. I am actually going to create a chart for you, how everyone's like got their hand in the cookie jar, several different ways working for different companies and LLCs where the incentives are conflicting. There's no question. Dylan also runs an influencer management company, the one that flew out all the pro-Israel influencers to the Hamptons that one ill-fated weekend. And like I said, there's just a lot of that throughout the organization, but let's stay focused on YRefi. So Turning Point employees past and present say they don't really understand how YRefi makes any money. They also don't really understand the relationship that they have with Turning Point USA. Apparently... They have a lot of contracts, but they don't ever really pay up. I'm going to say allegedly because I can't confirm that. But they have a lot of money. Officially, Y Refi is a student loan refinancing company that is run by CEO Lane Schoenberger. Now, you will note that Lane Schoenberger and his daughter and Dylan Erickson were all at UVU on the day of Charlie's assassination. They flew in together. And it looks like it's not just the employees who say that it's a shady company. Because a few months ago, mainstream media picked up on this and began covering YRefi as well. Check out this headline. This is in the Daily Mail. It was also covered in the UK International Business Times. And the headline is, Shady, student loan refinance company accused of paying Turning Point USA for speaking slots so that it can pitch to college kids. quote, the biggest regret of my life. Now, in the article, we learn that it reads, quote, a student loan refinancing company with a documented history of misleading investment claims has been paying Turning Point USA for coveted speaking slots at its campus events so that it can pitch its controversial lending and investment options to college kids and their families, the Daily Mail can reveal. Ryrefi last year faced $750,000 in state sanctions in a settlement of accusations of deceptive marketing and investment materials aimed at private funders who bankroll its refinancing of distressed and defaulted college loans. The company did not admit or deny the accusations. Watchdogs are sounding the alarm that its sponsorship deal with Turning Point has turned the late Charlie Kirk's nonprofit into a platform for what they say are potentially misleading financial deals. This is a shady company, warned Alan Kling, founder of Student Loan Justice, a consumer protection group. He continues, quote, Charlie Kirk promoted fiscal responsibility. It's very ironic that his group would be working with a company that has been caught deceiving investors, end quote. Turning Point has refused to comment for this story. I should say Turning Point 2.0 never comments. for a story. They're always up to it. There's always this stuff circulating. This is 2.0, just so you know, Watchdog Company. This is not 1.0. This is Dominate 2.0. And how do you dominate? Just by being shady, I think. Not answering any questions. Anyway, it goes on to tell us that Y. Reef Ice co-founder Lane Schoenberger told us his company has made changes to its investment marketing materials and has put to bed potentially $2.1 million in regulatory woes that it had in Massachusetts in 2025. He founded the company with Dennis Fenstermaker in 2017. Okay. Speaker 2 (14:15) So I also want to consider Speaker 3 (14:17) this company in the larger picture of me having explained to you that Charlie noticed that money was missing at Turning Point USA, that there was trouble specifically with Turning Point Action. Turning Point has denied those claims, but the claims came from Turning Point. So, you know, whose narrative you're going to believe. I'm going to go with people that say money was missing because I don't believe that Charlie established a doge for no reason seven days before he died. I just, I don't, my, it just doesn't pass the sniff test for me that he just did that because la, la, la, no reason. I think money was missing. Speaker 2 (14:52) But anyway, I want you to Speaker 3 (14:55) now take a look at CEO Lane Schoenberger's contract with Turning Point USA. There's going to be two that we're going to show you. The first was signed in February of 2025. Okay. February of 2025, they sign a contract. And I want you to note that it's a very detailed contract which covers events all the way through to February of 2026. The contract is for a total of $2.25 million for the following, okay? So it says, YREFI shall pay TPUSA a total of $2.25 million for the benefits outlined below. The organization will pay TPUSA Using the options sent separately, invoice will be sent upon request. Okay, now it tells us the payment due dates. If you actually total the payments, you might notice that actually it's 2.479. So 2.47 million, I don't, maybe they're rolling over from the previous year. I don't know. It seems weird if they are because the contract says explicitly that all previous contracts are voided and canceled. So this should represent everything. Could be a mistake, could be an oversight. I'm not going to be the person to be looking into doing Speaker 2 (16:10) a deep dive or auditing Speaker 3 (16:11) the finances. Anyway, here are the benefits of the contract. They are able to sponsor, they're sponsoring the Winter Gala. They get platinum table, premier seating, two rooms, the four seasons, name recognition in a program. They're also going to be a part of America Fest's 2024 donor dinner. I think they meant to say 2025. Because obviously, if this contract was signed on February 5th, it's not the donor dinner from 2024, or it shouldn't be. Maybe it is. Riley Gaines is going to be the keynote speaker, dinner for 50. The attendees are going to be 10K plus annually. Then you have the Spring Investor Retreat in 2025. They want banners. They want to bring four people. Then you have the Young Women's Leadership Summit. They want main stage for a minute, email blast, VIP lounge sponsorship, executive tickets, hyperlinked logo placement, the Strong Church event, which I don't know if that actually ended up happening. 60 second main stage videos, email to attendees, executive tickets, hyperlinked logo placement. Then the big one, student action summit. Things are going to go sideways there. VIP lounge, hyperlinked logo, text to attendees, email to all attendees. You have the Believer Summit that ended up being canceled, by the way. VIP lounge sponsorship, hyperlinked logo placement, text to attendees. They get a kiosk ad, a two-minute mainstage video, an LED premium booth, and 10 minutes of mainstage speaking. America Fest, same thing, just kind of repeated there of what they're going to get at the big end-of-year events. Now they are... Highly invested in Riley Gaines, I can tell you that. Kind of explains her, if you ask me, it explains her general mood these days. She's the girl that lost one race swimming against Leah Thomas and tried to spin it into a career. Event appearances, they want her for the Winter Gala, America Fest, the