Sarah Fraser Returns, KJ Biermann In Huge Trouble, Carole Radziwill's Curse & Gizelle/ Karen Feud

BEHIND THE VELVET ROPE

David and Sarah Fraser reunite on Behind the Velvet Rope to discuss recent reality TV scandals and updates. They dive deep into the disturbi

Key takeaways

• KJ Biermann faces serious allegations including sexual assault of a family member and tormenting relatives.
• Kim Zolciak is reportedly dating Kyle Mowitz, a man worth $150 million.

Main topics

• KJ Biermann legal case
• Kim Zolciak personal life

Notable quotes

Life is a trigger warning.

Conclusion

The episode provides a deep dive into the darker side of reality TV fa

Transcript preview

Speaker 1 (0:00) If you want to listen to this episode or any of our episodes ad-free, you can do that now. Head on over to Patreon. Click on the ad-free level. You get all of our bonus shows that you've been hearing so much about. Plus, every single day, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, you can listen to this episode or any of our other episodes at the same time ad-free over on Patreon. Speaker 1 (0:50) Hey everyone, this is David. Welcome back behind the velvet robe. We are joined here today on whatever day it is by and with the one and only Sarah Frazier. Speaker 2 (0:59) I don't know. I think we should have got another month without collaborating again because people were getting very nervous. I don't know about you. I've had hundreds of DMs. Are you and David done? What's going on? What's the drama? Speaker 1 (1:11) And Speaker 2 (1:12) I actually had to put Speaker 1 (1:12) up a post. You Speaker 2 (1:13) saw it. I tagged you in it and I said, there's no Speaker 1 (1:15) drama. Speaker 2 (1:15) There's no drama. I love my David. Speaker 1 (1:17) You know what the funny thing is? Oh, up. Speaker 2 (1:20) Okay, go. You're going to be positive? I Speaker 1 (1:24) think it's just you. I've been really positive lately. I've been saying Roni's great and this is great and Teresa, Melissa, it's real. And why doesn't... No, here's the thing about, first of all, anyone that has a question should just slip into your DMs and not mine. Because like, I charge to answer questions. So anyone that has a question... You can book me for 15 minutes and ask it. I'm not answering your question in my DMs. So slip into Sarah's DMs. So I guess that's not so positive. But I have something else to say. Here's the problem. Here's the problem. Speaker 2 (1:54) Go on. You have a minute. You have Speaker 1 (1:55) a Speaker 2 (1:55) minute. I got a minute. I'm so glad to see you. It's been a hot second. We could talk about it. Yeah, go ahead. Here's the problem. For Speaker 1 (2:00) those people slipping into your DMs, what's up with you and David? Here's the thing. When we were doing the crossovers, people on my show told me they hated you. People on your show told you they hated me. So the people that are asking what's up, what, 1 % are actually like, I miss you guys together. The other 99 % They want a big problem. They're troublemakers. These are troublemaking people, okay? And this reality TV. So they don't give a shit what's up with you and I. They don't give a shit if you're on my show again. I'll add your show. They don't care. They want a drama between us. So sorry, bitches. I ain't your tabloid fodder today. Speaker 2 (2:46) And we're back, baby. We're back, Speaker 1 (2:48) baby. So book me and I charge a very reduced rate. I'll answer any call. You could tell me to spread my asshole for a dollar and I'll do it. Like I'm available. You can purchase me at the 15 minutes, whatever you pay, I'll do. You got a question? Don't come into my DMs Speaker 2 (3:05) and Speaker 1 (3:05) ask me a question. Fuck off. Speaker 2 (3:07) am I regretting coming back? I don't Speaker 1 (3:10) know. I don't know. I don't know. Speaker 2 (3:12) I wanted to just state this, that you can message David and pay him 15, whatever, $100 for 15 minutes. There was never any drama. You know, we kind of started with doing three shows a week, crossover every single week, because we both needed the content. We love each other. You know, we talked housewives. I got to tell you, and I kind of had told you this before the whole, you could tell craziness, which was. I was, I needed a break. I was tired of talking about all the housewives. God bless you. By the way, I have Speaker 1 (3:40) no different feelings about Rachel, you could tell. And I think, I mean, it's disgusting that she uses her ex from, that died in 9-11 for sympathy because she doesn't really care. But I feel the same way about her. But I still love you. Sorry. Go on. Speaker 2 (3:54) I'm just being honest. This isn't about you, you Speaker 1 (3:56) could Speaker 2 (3:56) tell. Speaker 1 (3:57) So Speaker 2 (3:57) anyhow. I was like, look, dude, I need a break this summer. I've got a six-month-old, a mama with dementia. You've been a wonderful friend through all my miscarriages and the celebration of my little girl. You bought her the most adorable little Tiffany's jewelry holder. I mean, beautiful. So you've been a great friend. I needed a break. I was so happy. Thank you. I needed time. It was lovely to not talk about housewives. I know you don't give two rips about sister wives, but that Speaker 1 (4:24) is like been. So big. Even I saw a thing that Cody and the other one quit. David, it's huge. They quit Speaker 2 (4:32) the show after 16 years. And by the way, longest running reality show, because now it's not the same, but going into season 21 on October 4th. So it was great to take a break. We'll be back. I don't know if we're going to be back at the frequency that we were before. I really do not want to do three episodes a week again, because I just don't want to talk about that. Speaker 1 (4:52) All that crap. I would like to never talk housewives again. I've said this before. I want to talk Melrose. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Now, I don't know. By the way, I don't know if we're Speaker 2 (5:04) going Speaker 1 (5:04) to have time this show to talk about my I'm not going to call it a run in my very pleasant experience in the Hamptons this past week walking down Main Street Saturday night and I saw my friend. Margaret Josephs. Now we're not going to get into that. Let's please. Could we save that? We're Speaker 2 (5:22) not. You led with that. Speaker 1 (5:23) I have some other, but no, I would love to not talk about housewives. Please. Can we talk? Well, I have some other topics. Cause I know you're very, we'll just put that aside for a minute, but no, I want to talk music. I want to talk Melrose place. I want to talk the shards. That ending. Oh my God. Season two. No, I'd like to never talk housewives again. Unfortunately. Well, it's good to be Speaker 2 (5:47) back with you. I missed our chemistry. And there's something very Howard Stern when you and I are together. And I'm trying to think of who was the surly person on Howard's show. Speaker 1 (5:55) Maybe Speaker 2 (5:56) it was Howard. No, I think you were like Howard. Or, well, Howard's really mellow to become super nice now. I think you were old Speaker 1 (6:05) school Howard. I'm old school Howard. And I'm Robin. Speaker 2 (6:08) Because Howard Speaker 1 (6:09) used to be really nasty. And Robin is epic. I love Robin Quivers. I cannot even tell you. The extent to which I love Robin Quivers. Oh Speaker 2 (6:19) my God, I just got the Speaker 1 (6:19) coolest new Louis Vuitton wallet on the RealReal. And I know what you think, like you're rolling your eyes. Oh please, David, Louis Vuitton. But the thing is, the RealReal is really affordable. They drop over 10,000 new arrivals every day and they have brands like Gucci, Fendi, Prada, Cartier. And you guys know my personal favorite, Louis Vuitton. The thing about this wallet is it was $1,700 at retail when it first came out. And then I've been watching it on the RealReal. It's been $1,100 for a few months. It just decreased to over 50 % off and I bought it. It's really cool. It's this long wallet. It's silver. It's like shiny metallic. But the RealReal also has clothing, accessories. They have stuff from women, men, jewelry, watches, kids. And with stuff up to 90 % off, I don't feel guilty about making multiple purchases. So Speaker 2 (7:04) what are you waiting Speaker 1 (7:05) for? The RealReal is the most trusted name in authenticated luxury resale. With over 10,000 new arrivals daily, no one does resale like the RealReal. And now get $25 off your first purchase. Speaker 1 (7:25) I'll Speaker 2 (7:25) be Robin, although there's really no one on that show. Robin, I guess, is the best one. Bubba Booey, maybe. You are definitely Howard circa 1998. And Speaker 1 (7:34) by the way, I sympathize with the wonderful, wonderful, wonderful listeners of ours that have... pure intentions and really did miss us together. A lot of the others are shady and want there to be problems. And you can go put your dime in someone else's jukebox. Well, Speaker 2 (7:52) that's what we signed up for. Even though we're not stars yet, we still are public figures. We both have been at our podcast for a long time. People do love the tea. And I don't think you and I can sit here and go, oh, you're shady beaches because we're shady beaches. We talk about it all the time. Bring on the shade. Obviously, David's going to charge you. Bring Speaker 1 (8:13) on the shade. I just, I don't like questions. I think it's very rude. It's like being a wind-up toy. Can I just say, can I just say one thing about something? Because you are, you are all in on this. You are all in on this, KJ. Like, I see your, you are, it is the most shocking thing that's happened, I think, in the, it's like, sick, no? David, be on stick. I don't want to know Speaker 2 (8:44) what's going on. Well, OK, here's the here's the part. First of all, as a parent. OK, and I think this story struck me. Now, KJ Bierman, everybody listening knows this. I know your fans and mine both have been following this. Right. So. Croy Bierman, Kim Zolciak's son, 15 years old. OK, their oldest son that they had together. He has two counts, not one. One, he's already been found guilty of, of S-A-ing his own family member. I say Speaker 1 (9:12) sexual assault,